Bug#489765: libgtk2.0-0: does not allow lpr printing through Iceweasel 3

2008-07-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 juillet 2008 à 21:31 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel a écrit :
  Does setting:
  
  gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups
  
  In ~/.gtkrc-2.0 solve things for you?
 
 Well, yes, it did! Thanks very much!
 
 But having to do this (while it was not necessary before) is a
 surprise to the users -- therefore a bug. Some program should do
 this automatically in its install procedure -- or prompt the user
 to accept this. But which program? Iceweasel3? Or libgtk2.0-0?

Well, users should not be using lprng unless they know what they are
doing. The default is to use CUPS which has been the recommended print
server for years. If we enable the lpr backend by default, it will lead
to a misleading UI for users of CUPS, so we choose to not enable it.

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Bug#489765: libgtk2.0-0: does not allow lpr printing through Iceweasel 3

2008-07-09 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Josselin Mouette wrote:

 Well, users should not be using lprng unless they know what
 they are doing.

You should not be telling what users should do. When you drop a
trusted functionality which available for 15 years, you should at
least have the politeness to warn users about this fact.





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Bug#489765: libgtk2.0-0: does not allow lpr printing through Iceweasel 3

2008-07-07 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Package: libgtk2.0-0
Version: 2.12.10-2
Severity: important


Iceweasel 3 cannot print when using lprng; only when using CUPS.  

Installing libgtk2.0-0 by compiling the sources from gtk.org (there called 
gtk2+-2.10 or similar) cures the problem.

So it seems some Debian customisation of libgtk2.0-0 has killed lprng 
compatibility. There are many users who prefer lprng. They can't print 
from Iceweasel anymore, so this is a Bad Thing, making this bug Important. 

Please keep Debian applications as independent from each other as possible, 
in order to preserve freedom of choice for the users.

See also the discussion on the Debian user list, starting approx. at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/msg00430.html

Regards, Jan

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Kernel: Linux 2.6.25-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages libgtk2.0-0 depends on:
ii  libatk1.0-0   1.22.0-1   The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libc6 2.7-12 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcairo2 1.6.4-6The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libcomerr21.40.11-1  common error description library
ii  libcups2 [libcupsys2] 1.3.7-7Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
pi  libcupsys21.3.7-7Common UNIX Printing System (trans
ii  libfontconfig12.6.0-1generic font configuration library
ii  libglib2.0-0  2.16.3-2   The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnutls26   2.4.0-2the GNU TLS library - runtime libr
ii  libgtk2.0-common  2.12.10-2  Common files for the GTK+ graphica
ii  libjpeg62 6b-14  The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libkrb53  1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-3 MIT Kerberos runtime libraries
ii  libpango1.0-0 1.20.3-2   Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpng12-01.2.27-1   PNG library - runtime
ii  libtiff4  3.8.2-10   Tag Image File Format (TIFF) libra
ii  libx11-6  2:1.1.4-2  X11 client-side library
ii  libxcomposite11:0.4.0-3  X11 Composite extension library
ii  libxcursor1   1:1.1.9-1  X cursor management library
ii  libxdamage1   1:1.1.1-4  X11 damaged region extension libra
ii  libxext6  2:1.0.4-1  X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  libxfixes31:4.0.3-2  X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio
ii  libxi62:1.1.3-1  X11 Input extension library
ii  libxinerama1  2:1.0.3-2  X11 Xinerama extension library
ii  libxrandr22:1.2.2-2  X11 RandR extension library
ii  libxrender1   1:0.9.4-2  X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-12  compression library - runtime

Versions of packages libgtk2.0-0 recommends:
ii  hicolor-icon-theme0.10-1 default fallback theme for FreeDes
ii  libgtk2.0-bin 2.12.10-2  The programs for the GTK+ graphica

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Bug#489765: libgtk2.0-0: does not allow lpr printing through Iceweasel 3

2008-07-07 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 18:31 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 Iceweasel 3 cannot print when using lprng; only when using CUPS.  
 
 Installing libgtk2.0-0 by compiling the sources from gtk.org (there called 
 gtk2+-2.10 or similar) cures the problem.
 
 So it seems some Debian customisation of libgtk2.0-0 has killed lprng 
 compatibility. There are many users who prefer lprng. They can't print 
 from Iceweasel anymore, so this is a Bad Thing, making this bug Important. 
 
 Please keep Debian applications as independent from each other as possible, 
 in order to preserve freedom of choice for the users.
 
 See also the discussion on the Debian user list, starting approx. at
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/msg00430.html

Does setting:

gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups

In ~/.gtkrc-2.0 solve things for you?

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Bug#489765: libgtk2.0-0: does not allow lpr printing through Iceweasel 3

2008-07-07 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Sven Arvidsson wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 18:31 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 Iceweasel 3 cannot print when using lprng; only when using CUPS.   

 Does setting:
 
 gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups
 
 In ~/.gtkrc-2.0 solve things for you?

Well, yes, it did! Thanks very much!

But having to do this (while it was not necessary before) is a
surprise to the users -- therefore a bug. Some program should do
this automatically in its install procedure -- or prompt the user
to accept this. But which program? Iceweasel3? Or libgtk2.0-0?

Regards, Jan







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Bug#489765: libgtk2.0-0: does not allow lpr printing through Iceweasel 3

2008-07-07 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 21:31 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 But having to do this (while it was not necessary before) is a
 surprise to the users -- therefore a bug. Some program should do
 this automatically in its install procedure -- or prompt the user
 to accept this. But which program? Iceweasel3? Or libgtk2.0-0?

I should also mention that this can also be set system-wide
in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc

The surprise is that Firefox/Iceweasel uses the GTK+ print dialog now,
so I guess users are more likely to find this in the README.Debian (or
NEWS.Debian?) for the iceweasel package even though the configuration is
for GTK? 

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