Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Elimar Riesebieter]

* Antoine Beaupré  [2016-01-01 23:00 -0500]:

> Package: libasound2-data
> Version: 1.0.28-1
> Followup-For: Bug #500509
> 
> This is still a problem. While /etc/alsa.conf may not make sense
> because it is a "default configuration", now stuff like pulseaudio
> jumped into the fray and now configures pulseaudio automaticall to
> fire up whenever you talk to alsa, through
> /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/*.conf files.
> 
> If i want pulseaudio installed, but want to turn that freaking thing
> off, it's basically impossible because the changes will be overwritten
> on upgrade. Similarly, it's impossible to change the default alsa
> config that way.
> 
> Config files belong to /etc, i believe this is a pretty clear Policy
> we have, no?
> 
> The problem with the current approach is discoverability - until i
> found out about the Debian wiki article describing the way PA was
> overriding ALSA, i had *no* idea there was a ALSA configuration
> directory, because there was nothing in /etc/alsa*

Did you ever had a look at /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf?

$ head -3 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
#
#  ALSA library configuration file
#

All files residing in /usr/share/alsa/ have the purpose to give
information on apps which rely on libasound. So $USER has nothing to
modify and the files _have_ to stay here!

If you want to create your own alsa environment read
/usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples/asoundrc.txt.gz and create your
own $HOME/.asoundrc or find an appropriate example for your card in
the net.

If you want to get rid of pulse go i.e. here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381284

Elimar
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Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Antoine Beaupré]

Package: libasound2-data
Version: 1.0.28-1
Followup-For: Bug #500509

This is still a problem. While /etc/alsa.conf may not make sense
because it is a "default configuration", now stuff like pulseaudio
jumped into the fray and now configures pulseaudio automaticall to
fire up whenever you talk to alsa, through
/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/*.conf files.

If i want pulseaudio installed, but want to turn that freaking thing
off, it's basically impossible because the changes will be overwritten
on upgrade. Similarly, it's impossible to change the default alsa
config that way.

Config files belong to /etc, i believe this is a pretty clear Policy
we have, no?

The problem with the current approach is discoverability - until i
found out about the Debian wiki article describing the way PA was
overriding ALSA, i had *no* idea there was a ALSA configuration
directory, because there was nothing in /etc/alsa*

thanks for reconsidering

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  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'proposed-updates'), (500, 
'stable'), (500, 'oldstable'), (1, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
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libasound2-data depends on no packages.

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Versions of packages libasound2-data suggests:
ii  alsa-utils  1.0.28-1

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Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Lionel Elie Mamane]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 08:30:55PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
 * Russell Coker [080929 23:10 +0200]
 On Tuesday 30 September 2008 04:15, Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de 
 wrote:

 Config files belong under /etc not under /usr.

 To be honest: Which config files do you mean?

 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf

 This file is installed by libasound2. (...) This file should not be
 customized.

More precisely, it is a kind of default configuration that is not
hardcoded in the C code, but in a text file; as far as I understand,
everything done in that file can be overridden in /etc/asound.conf, so
that's where the local configuration-changing should happen.

Russel, does this convince you that the bug is not a bug?

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Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Russell Coker]

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu wrote:
 More precisely, it is a kind of default configuration that is not
 hardcoded in the C code, but in a text file; as far as I understand,
 everything done in that file can be overridden in /etc/asound.conf, so
 that's where the local configuration-changing should happen.

So why not just install the file as /etc/asound.conf?

 Russel, does this convince you that the bug is not a bug?

No.



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Bug#500509: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Elimar Riesebieter]

reassign 500509 libasound2
tags 500509 wontfix

thanks

* Russell Coker [080929 23:10 +0200]
 On Tuesday 30 September 2008 04:15, Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   Package: alsa-utils
   Version: 1.0.16-2
   Severity: normal
  
   Config files belong under /etc not under /usr.
 
  To be honest: Which config files do you mean?
 
 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf 

This file is installed by libasound2. It ist placed in the share,
because alsa-utils and alsa-plugins are looking for that library
configuration file. This file should not be customized. You are
right: Config files have to be in /etc. But in that case it is a
information file for other packages und must be shared. You can
discuss this with the alsa developers, but they won't change though.

I'll tag this bug as wontfix till you agree to close the bug.

Elimar

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Bug#500509: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Elimar Riesebieter]

* Russell Coker [080929 00:20 +0200]
 Package: alsa-utils
 Version: 1.0.16-2
 Severity: normal
 
 Config files belong under /etc not under /usr.

To be honest: Which config files do you mean?

Elimar

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Bug#500509: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Russell Coker]

On Tuesday 30 September 2008 04:15, Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Package: alsa-utils
  Version: 1.0.16-2
  Severity: normal
 
  Config files belong under /etc not under /usr.

 To be honest: Which config files do you mean?

/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf 



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Bug#500509: alsa-utils: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf should be moved to /etc

[Russell Coker]

Package: alsa-utils
Version: 1.0.16-2
Severity: normal

Config files belong under /etc not under /usr.



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