Bug#507652: Increase severity to release-critical because XeLaTeX is broken.

2009-02-12 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear Norbert,


sorry for bugging you.


Am Donnerstag, den 12.02.2009, 13:35 +0100 schrieb Norbert Preining:

> > I am raising the severity because xelatex is unusable for me.
> 
> What about simply using
>   \"Ubung ...
> and then xelatex ...
> 
> That works.
> 
> > In my message from Sunday 13:47 (EST) I enumerated some ways to fix
> > this.
> 
> No, you enumerated problems, no ways to fix it.

Well, I consider documenting this bug in README.Debian as a fix and
would appreciate if you could point to this report or write down to use
\" for umlauts (although this defeats the purpose to use xelatex for
full UTF-8 support).

> The fix is useing \"U for now.

This works for me.

> > If I am wrong about the severity, I am sorry.
> 
> Yes you are. Noone ever said that xetex is ready for full math
> typesetting. That is so much WIP, the lmodern fonts in use in Debian
> imply don't have the math stuff AFAIS set up properly.
> 
> But we cannot update only lmodern, because there are a bunch of other
> things we would have to touch withing texlive (fontspec eg). That is not
> a good idea.
> 
> 
> So your options are:
> - wait for texlive 2008 in Debian
> - install texlive 2008 as is (no debian packages)
>   (I can confirm that using test-fontspec in TL2008 gives the expected
>   output)
> - use pdflatex
> - use \" notation (recode is your friend, I guess it has a mode for
>   that)
> - install updated packages for fontspc, lmodern etc locally
> 
> But there is no fix for *all*.


Thanks for your answer and work,

Paul


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Bug#507652: Increase severity to release-critical because XeLaTeX is broken.

2009-02-12 Thread Norbert Preining
severity 507652 wishlist
retitle 507652 make math support working in xe(la)tex and lmodern fonts
tags 507652 + fixed-upstream
thanks


> I am raising the severity because xelatex is unusable for me.

What about simply using
\"Ubung ...
and then xelatex ...

That works.

> In my message from Sunday 13:47 (EST) I enumerated some ways to fix
> this.

No, you enumerated problems, no ways to fix it.

The fix is useing \"U for now.

> If I am wrong about the severity, I am sorry.

Yes you are. Noone ever said that xetex is ready for full math
typesetting. That is so much WIP, the lmodern fonts in use in Debian
imply don't have the math stuff AFAIS set up properly.

But we cannot update only lmodern, because there are a bunch of other
things we would have to touch withing texlive (fontspec eg). That is not
a good idea.


So your options are:
- wait for texlive 2008 in Debian
- install texlive 2008 as is (no debian packages)
  (I can confirm that using test-fontspec in TL2008 gives the expected
  output)
- use pdflatex
- use \" notation (recode is your friend, I guess it has a mode for
  that)
- install updated packages for fontspc, lmodern etc locally

But there is no fix for *all*.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#507652: Increase severity to release-critical because XeLaTeX is broken.

2009-02-12 Thread Paul Menzel
severity 507652 grave
reassign 507652 texlive-xetex
thanks


Dear everyone,


I am raising the severity because xelatex is unusable for me.

In my message from Sunday 13:47 (EST) I enumerated some ways to fix
this.

If I am wrong about the severity, I am sorry.


Thanks,

Paul


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