Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Package: brasero Version: 2.26.2-1 Just letting you know that this is still the case in 2.26. Without 'cdrdao' installed, I cannot burn a toc/bin audio CD image (created by brasero) - the burn button is greyed out and there is a message about not having the right plugins. With it installed, I can burn the image no problem. Cheers, Jason --- System information. --- Architecture: amd64 Kernel: Linux 2.6.30-anderson Debian Release: squeeze/sid 500 testing www.debian-multimedia.org 500 testing security.debian.org 500 testing ftp.iinet.net.au 500 testing ftp.debian-unofficial.org 500 squeeze www.lamaresh.net --- Package information. --- Depends(Version) | Installed -+-= libatk1.0-0 (= 1.20.0) | 1.26.0-1 libbeagle1(= 0.3.9) | 0.3.9-1 libbrasero-media0 (= 0.9.1) | 2.26.2-1 libc6 (= 2.4) | 2.9-12 libcairo2 (= 1.2.4) | 1.8.6-2+b1 libdbus-1-3 (= 1.0.2) | 1.2.14-3 libdbus-glib-1-2 (= 0.78) | 0.80-4 libfontconfig1(= 2.4.0) | 2.6.0-4 libfreetype6 (= 2.2.1) | 2.3.9-4.1 libgconf2-4 (= 2.23.2) | 2.26.2-1 libglib2.0-0 (= 2.18.0) | 2.20.1-2 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 (= 0.10.12) | 0.10.23-3 libgstreamer0.10-0 (= 0.10.15) | 0.10.23-2 libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.14.0) | 2.16.1-2 libice6 (= 1:1.0.0) | 2:1.0.5-1 libnautilus-extension1 (= 2.26.2) | 2.26.3-1 libpango1.0-0(= 1.18.0) | 1.24.0-3+b1 libsm6 | 2:1.1.0-2 libtotem-plparser12(= 2.26) | 2.26.2-1 libxml2 (= 2.6.27) | 2.7.3.dfsg-1 gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (= 0.10.0) | 0.10.23-3 gnome-icon-theme | 2.26.0-1 hal (= 0.5) | 0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2 gvfs | 1.2.2-2 wodim| 9:1.1.9-1 genisoimage | 9:1.1.9-1 dvd+rw-tools | 7.1-4 brasero-common (= 2.26) | 2.26.2-1 brasero-common ( 2.27) | 2.26.2-1 Recommends (Version) | Installed =-+-=== gstreamer0.10-plugins-good| 0.10.15-2 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly| 0.10.12-1 gnome-mount | 0.8-2 Suggests (Version) | Installed -+-=== gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad| 0.10.13-1 dvdauthor| 0.6.14-3+b2 vcdimager| 0.7.23-4 libdvdcss2 | 1.2.10-0.2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le jeudi 23 avril 2009 à 15:39 +0200, Joerg Schilling a écrit : It may make sense to talk to the brasero maintainers/authors directly. Note that Solaris decided not to include cdrdao at all and that Solaris tries to use brasero, so there is a need to implement decent brasero support for cdrtools. According to your own sayings, this is not possible: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0904.2/03441.html In this mail you explain that cdrecord does not work correctly with HAL. However, HAL is one of the dependencies of brasero, it is also now a dependency of the X server. Zero points! I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in future understand things. Hald on Linux is known to be broken and to cause many problems with burning CDs. Hald on Solaris does not have these problems ;-) If you change directly after they have no reason, not work that has how do not to find a social problem with me the Debian or Sun legal risk to this years. You some basic concepts in the broken nearly this mail is no way. Too many OS exception definitely not part of sevreral independent work correctly is a mistake. The fork on the original right: to do is non serious that is in violation understanding the dispute? Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
The mail above (sent at Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:08:18 +0200 from a malicious account at malsain.org) is spam, it hast been sent by a faker! Please remove this junk from the bugtracking system. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
You wrote: My original problem was that I could not get brasero to burn an ISO (with TOC) image of an audio CD. Eventually I discovered that it works if cdrdao is installed (but only v 1.2.2-16, no later, but I think that's a bug in cdrdao's drivers and my particular hardware). Without cdrdao installed, the burn button was simply greyed out, with no info as to why. This is relevant: Re: what is the internal priority for brasero when select between cdrecord/cdrdao/cdrttool http://mail.gnome.org/archives/brasero-list/2008-July/msg00017.html just a note: The best audio quality is achived when using cdrecord (cdrtools). The second best choice may be cdrdao but note that cdrdao is not maintained anymore since 5 years. There have been a few bug fixes since then but no nore. libburnia has other problems: 1) It is non-portable and thus limits portability of brasewro 2) It depends on a Linux privileges problem and will force other platforms to run brasero as root if it may be ported. cdrecord is the best way to deal with this as it implements a clean separation between the privileged task of sending SCSI commands and a complex and thus hard to review GUI code. wodim is unmaintained, just represents an old (4+ years old) state of cdrtools and wodim cannot be legally distributed because of Copyright and GPL problems. wodim should have the lowest priority. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Le jeudi 23 avril 2009 à 12:50 +0200, Joerg Schilling a écrit : just a note: The best audio quality is achived when using cdrecord (cdrtools). Jason, please ignore any communications from Jörg Schilling. The problem with brasero is that it is somehow outdated. I recommend using nautilus-cd-burner instead until we have packaged 2.26. Cheers, -- .''`. Debian 5.0 Lenny has been released! : :' : `. `' Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told `-me that if you don't install Lenny, he'd melt your brain. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le jeudi 23 avril 2009 à 12:50 +0200, Joerg Schilling a écrit : just a note: The best audio quality is achived when using cdrecord (cdrtools). Jason, please ignore any communications from Jörg Schilling. The problem with brasero is that it is somehow outdated. I recommend using nautilus-cd-burner instead until we have packaged 2.26. Jason, I am sorry but I have the impression that Josselin Mouette is not intersted in a fact oriented discussion. If this persists, you would need to ignore him. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Joerg Schilling wrote: just a note: The best audio quality is achived when using cdrecord (cdrtools). [...] wodim is unmaintained, just represents an old (4+ years old) state of cdrtools ...But the description of the Debian cdrecord package says: This is a dummy package to ease the transition to wodim, the fork of cdrecord. It provides a cdrecord symlink to wodim for compatibility purposes. Please use wodim instead of cdrecord. ...which is a bit confusing. At any rate, I know that without the cdrdao package installed, I cannot select any of the options for burning (eg. simulate, overburning, etc); whereas I can with it installed. The drive is a Samsung SATA SH-S223F (the device manager says it's an SCSI connection, /dev/scd0), by the way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: just a note: The best audio quality is achived when using cdrecord (cdrtools). [...] wodim is unmaintained, just represents an old (4+ years old) state of cdrtools ...But the description of the Debian cdrecord package says: This is a dummy package to ease the transition to wodim, the fork of cdrecord. It provides a cdrecord symlink to wodim for compatibility purposes. Please use wodim instead of cdrecord. ...which is a bit confusing. At any rate, I know that without the cdrdao package installed, I cannot select any of the options for burning (eg. simulate, overburning, etc); whereas I can with it installed. This may be a deficit of brasero or your brasero version. It may make sense to talk to the brasero maintainers/authors directly. Note that Solaris decided not to include cdrdao at all and that Solaris tries to use brasero, so there is a need to implement decent brasero support for cdrtools. The drive is a Samsung SATA SH-S223F (the device manager says it's an SCSI connection, /dev/scd0), by the way. All CD writers are SCSI, they may just use a different SCSI transport media. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Le jeudi 23 avril 2009 à 15:39 +0200, Joerg Schilling a écrit : It may make sense to talk to the brasero maintainers/authors directly. Note that Solaris decided not to include cdrdao at all and that Solaris tries to use brasero, so there is a need to implement decent brasero support for cdrtools. According to your own sayings, this is not possible: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0904.2/03441.html In this mail you explain that cdrecord does not work correctly with HAL. However, HAL is one of the dependencies of brasero, it is also now a dependency of the X server. So following your own advice, we will keep using wodim with brasero, as it works correctly with HAL. Cheers, -- .''`. Debian 5.0 Lenny has been released! : :' : `. `' Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told `-me that if you don't install Lenny, he'd melt your brain. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le jeudi 23 avril 2009 à 15:39 +0200, Joerg Schilling a écrit : It may make sense to talk to the brasero maintainers/authors directly. Note that Solaris decided not to include cdrdao at all and that Solaris tries to use brasero, so there is a need to implement decent brasero support for cdrtools. According to your own sayings, this is not possible: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0904.2/03441.html In this mail you explain that cdrecord does not work correctly with HAL. However, HAL is one of the dependencies of brasero, it is also now a dependency of the X server. Zero points! I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in future understand things. Hald on Linux is known to be broken and to cause many problems with burning CDs. Hald on Solaris does not have these problems ;-) Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#525140: [brasero] Should recommend or depend on 'cdrdao'
Package: brasero Version: 0.8.0-3 Severity: normal My original problem was that I could not get brasero to burn an ISO (with TOC) image of an audio CD. Eventually I discovered that it works if cdrdao is installed (but only v 1.2.2-16, no later, but I think that's a bug in cdrdao's drivers and my particular hardware). Without cdrdao installed, the burn button was simply greyed out, with no info as to why. This is relevant: Re: what is the internal priority for brasero when select between cdrecord/cdrdao/cdrttool http://mail.gnome.org/archives/brasero-list/2008-July/msg00017.html --- System information. --- Architecture: amd64 Kernel: Linux 2.6.29.090420 Debian Release: squeeze/sid 500 testing www.debian-multimedia.org 500 testing security.debian.org 500 testing ftp.iinet.net.au 500 testing ftp.debian-unofficial.org 500 lenny www.lamaresh.net --- Package information. --- Depends (Version) | Installed ===-+- libart-2.0-2 (= 2.3.18) | 2.3.20-2 libatk1.0-0 (= 1.20.0) | 1.24.0-2 libbeagle1 (= 0.3.5) | 0.3.9-1 libbonobo2-0 (= 2.15.0) | 2.24.1-1 libbonoboui2-0 (= 2.15.1) | 2.24.1-1 libc6 (= 2.7-1) | 2.9-4 libcairo2 (= 1.2.4) | 1.8.6-2+b1 libdbus-1-3 (= 1.0.2) | 1.2.12-1 libdbus-glib-1-2 (= 0.71) | 0.80-3 libfontconfig1 (= 2.4.0) | 2.6.0-3 libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5) | 2.3.9-4 libgconf2-4 (= 2.13.5) | 2.24.0-7 libglib2.0-0 (= 2.16.0) | 2.20.0-2 libgnome2-0 (= 2.17.3) | 2.24.1-2 libgnomecanvas2-0 (= 2.11.1) | 2.20.1.1-1 libgnomeui-0 (= 2.17.1) | 2.24.1-1 libgnomevfs2-0 (= 1:2.17.90) | 1:2.24.1-1 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 (= 0.10.12) | 0.10.22-5 libgstreamer0.10-0 (= 0.10.15) | 0.10.22-3 libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.12.0) | 2.14.7-5 libhal1 (= 0.5.8.1) | 0.5.11-8 libice6 (= 1:1.0.0) | 2:1.0.5-1 liborbit2 (= 1:2.14.10) | 1:2.14.17-0.1 libpango1.0-0 (= 1.20.3) | 1.24.0-3+b1 libpixman-1-0 | 0.14.0-1 libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4) | 1.2.35-1 libpopt0 (= 1.14) | 1.14-4 libsm6 | 2:1.1.0-2 libtotem-plparser10 (= 2.21.92) | 2.22.3-1+b1 libx11-6 | 2:1.2.1-1 libxcb-render-util0 (= 0.2.1+git1) | 0.3.3-2+b1 libxcb-render0 | 1.2-1 libxcb1 | 1.2-1 libxml2 (= 2.6.27) | 2.7.3.dfsg-1 libxrender1 | 1:0.9.4-2 zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4) | 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13 gconf2 (= 2.10.1-2) | 2.24.0-7 wodim | 9:1.1.9-1 genisoimage | 9:1.1.9-1 gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (= 0.10.0) | 0.10.22-5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
