Bug#567560: new versions on experimental?
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 06:48:37PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Harald Dunkel wrote: > > What I meant was that the "unstable" version is a little bit too > > "experimental" for me. Recovery from a broken grub2 upgrade can be > > _pretty_ difficult. This means there is a high risk for doing > > grub2 upgrades, even if the code itself is very stable. > > > > IMHO the high risk should be reduced by better testing in the > > "experimental" branch, before a new version is promoted to > > "unstable". > > How do you feel about this today? Probably for your needs pinning > grub to "testing" might be a little better, but regardless, I've found > the level of scary much lower lately. TBH, I'm not sure we'd get very much real-world testing out of experimental, and thus it might not make a whole lot of difference if that were done before promoting to unstable. One thing I have started doing fairly routinely before uploading major GRUB changes is to test them in a farm of virtual machines with various setups. It's not perfect and doesn't catch everything, but it's definitely shielded users of unstable from a number of major problems. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#567560: new versions on experimental?
Hi Harald, Harald Dunkel wrote: > What I meant was that the "unstable" version is a little bit too > "experimental" for me. Recovery from a broken grub2 upgrade can be > _pretty_ difficult. This means there is a high risk for doing > grub2 upgrades, even if the code itself is very stable. > > IMHO the high risk should be reduced by better testing in the > "experimental" branch, before a new version is promoted to > "unstable". How do you feel about this today? Probably for your needs pinning grub to "testing" might be a little better, but regardless, I've found the level of scary much lower lately. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#567560: new versions on experimental?
On 01/30/10 11:08, Felix Zielcke wrote: > > I'm not so sure I get the point of your report, because it looks more > like a general request then a specific request to update the version in > there. > Maybe you just missed that we already have packages in experimental? > See e.g. http://packages.debian.org/source/grub2 > > What I meant was that the "unstable" version is a little bit too "experimental" for me. Recovery from a broken grub2 upgrade can be _pretty_ difficult. This means there is a high risk for doing grub2 upgrades, even if the code itself is very stable. IMHO the high risk should be reduced by better testing in the "experimental" branch, before a new version is promoted to "unstable". Regards Harri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#567560: new versions on experimental?
Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 20:22 +0100 schrieb Harald Dunkel: > Package: grub-pc > Version: 1.98~20100128-1 > Severity: wishlist > > Do you think it would be possible to release new versions > of grub2 on experimental? I understand that the "unstable" > version is what the name says, but even packages much less > important than grub2 make use of the experimental section > to get rid of the most serious bugs first. In experimental we already upload the experimental branch from upstream, whereas sid/unstable tracks upstreams' trunk branch. That's why they have the word `experimental' in the version number. I'm not so sure I get the point of your report, because it looks more like a general request then a specific request to update the version in there. Maybe you just missed that we already have packages in experimental? See e.g. http://packages.debian.org/source/grub2 -- Felix Zielcke Proud Debian Maintainer and GNU GRUB developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#567560: new versions on experimental?
Package: grub-pc Version: 1.98~20100128-1 Severity: wishlist Do you think it would be possible to release new versions of grub2 on experimental? I understand that the "unstable" version is what the name says, but even packages much less important than grub2 make use of the experimental section to get rid of the most serious bugs first. Many thanx Harri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
