Bug#636783: TC process GRs

2014-06-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On 26 June 2014 10:11, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
  * Change the committee size to an odd number to minimise use of the
casting vote in highly contested situations.  Status: under
discussion; text should be simple.  Current proposal is to increase
to 9.

This seems a lot like fighting the last war to me, and consequently
not of much value, but does there also need to be some requirement to
actually fill the ctte then? having nine slots, but only eight members
doesn't help

  * Explicitly permit the TC to hold private conversations.  These
would not include actual votes etc., and are still discouraged.
Draft text is ready.

I personally think it'd be better to do something more along the
opposite lines -- if the tech ctte members have discussions in private
on issues that have been put to the ctte (eg at conferences, over
beers, irc query sessions), require they post summaries of the
conversation to the public ctte list after the fact.

As far as mediation goes; it would be appropriate for the ctte to
recommend the disputants undertake private mediation attempts, which
might result in a recommendation the ctte adopts, but it seems like
having that be separate from the ctte's duties in general would be a
better plan than allowing discussions to go secret whenever someone
thinks it would be counterproductive.

Cheers,
aj

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Bug#636783: TC process GRs

2014-06-25 Thread Ian Jackson
We have accumulated the following GR proposals, mostly to do with TC
matters:

 * Fix the supermajority bug.  Status: draft text on -vote just sent.

 * Change the committee size to an odd number to minimise use of the
   casting vote in highly contested situations.  Status: under
   discussion; text should be simple.  Current proposal is to increase
   to 9.

 * Set a minimum discussion period for the TC (probably 72h).  Under
   discussion within the TC.

 * Retirement/rotation of TC members.  Proposals being discussed
   on -project, at a fairly advanced stage of maturity.

 * Explicitly permit the TC to hold private conversations.  These
   would not include actual votes etc., and are still discouraged.
   Draft text is ready.

 * Fix the numbering in appendix A so there is only one A.1.
   Draft text is ready.

I would like to know which if any of these are (a) controversial
(b) are related to the others.

It would probably be best to lump the uncontroversial ones together
into one GR proposal.  The others should be separate, unless any of
them are entangled.

By entangled I mean that a voter's opinion about one of the proposals
might depend on whether the other proposal passes.

Ian.


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