Bug#727611: ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34)

2013-10-25 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 25.10.2013 04:41, schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
 | Debian still has graphiz-2.2x. There is a reason I did file this as a 
 wishlist
 | issue.
 
 Well that is sort of silly.  For as long this builds on Debian I am not going
 to do anything, realistically. Let me know when a new / updated graphviz hits
 Debian.

According to http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/graphviz.html, graphviz will be
involved with the ruby1.8-removal transition. So it won't be that far away, that
somebody has to either backport ruby1.9 or ruby2.0 support to graphviz, drop the
ruby extension, or update graphviz to a version compatible with a new ruby (and
lua, and guile).

 And I say this as a heavy Ubuntu user -- with maybe a dozen machines between
 home and work.  But my workflow _for Debian_ is still the same, and if you
 insist that Ubuntu (downstream) has to differ than this is really an issue
 for patches at your end (as you've done, doing your users a disservice by
 removing the GraphLayout plugin) and not something I can do.

Not sure about the unfriendlyness.  It's more of a disservice to ship year's old
software (both graphviz and ggobi), and in this case you have to outwage having
a new graphviz working with recent interpreter versions and working on more
architectures, or a feature complete ggobi. So yes, if you feel that this issue
won't hit ggobi for jessie, feel free to ignore it.

  Matthias


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Bug#727611: ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34)

2013-10-25 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel

On 25 October 2013 at 12:08, Matthias Klose wrote:
| Am 25.10.2013 04:41, schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
|  | Debian still has graphiz-2.2x. There is a reason I did file this as a 
wishlist
|  | issue.
|  
|  Well that is sort of silly.  For as long this builds on Debian I am not 
going
|  to do anything, realistically. Let me know when a new / updated graphviz 
hits
|  Debian.
| 
| According to http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/graphviz.html, graphviz will be
| involved with the ruby1.8-removal transition. So it won't be that far away, 
that
| somebody has to either backport ruby1.9 or ruby2.0 support to graphviz, drop 
the
| ruby extension, or update graphviz to a version compatible with a new ruby 
(and
| lua, and guile).

Ok.

If you look at the debian/changelog for ggobi, you see that graphviz was the
reason for a lot of changes.  I don't expect that to change -- graphviz seems
to be a difficult package which maybe isn't or wasn't always packaged with
the fullest focus.  Such is life.

Graphviz is actually pretty nice. Ggobi is a pretty marginal package which
can work with or without, so we have no issue to fight over. I just wanted to
make sure I was not missing anything.
 
|  And I say this as a heavy Ubuntu user -- with maybe a dozen machines between
|  home and work.  But my workflow _for Debian_ is still the same, and if you
|  insist that Ubuntu (downstream) has to differ than this is really an issue
|  for patches at your end (as you've done, doing your users a disservice by
|  removing the GraphLayout plugin) and not something I can do.
| 
| Not sure about the unfriendlyness.  It's more of a disservice to ship year's 
old
| software (both graphviz and ggobi), and in this case you have to outwage 
having

Ggobi has gone somewhat stale upstream. You will notice that we have 2.2.10
whereas debwatch only sees 2.2.9 -- so I already went half an upstream patch
ahead (in cooperation with upstream who I know prtetty well).  So I am not
behind, they simple do not release anymore.

But I can't do anything about graphviz.

| a new graphviz working with recent interpreter versions and working on more
| architectures, or a feature complete ggobi. So yes, if you feel that this 
issue
| won't hit ggobi for jessie, feel free to ignore it.

Will try to keep an eye on it, but also keep the status quo (with the older
graphviz) in Debian itself.

Thanks as always for all your work concerning Ubuntu and Debian.

Cheers,  Dirk

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Bug#727611: ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34)

2013-10-24 Thread Matthias Klose
Package: ggobi
Version: 2.1.10-4
Severity: wishlist

ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34).  If there any
pointers for such a port ... or build ggobi without graphviz support.

see https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244263 for the build log.


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Bug#727611: ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34)

2013-10-24 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel

Hi Doko,

On 24 October 2013 at 17:05, Matthias Klose wrote:
| Package: ggobi
| Version: 2.1.10-4
| Severity: wishlist
| 
| ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34).  If there any
| pointers for such a port ... or build ggobi without graphviz support.

Thanks, will look into this and also report upstream which has gotten pretty
quiet of late.

Dirk

| 
| see https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244263 for the build log.

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Bug#727611: ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34)

2013-10-24 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel

On 24 October 2013 at 17:05, Matthias Klose wrote:
| Package: ggobi
| Version: 2.1.10-4
| Severity: wishlist
| 
| ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34).  If there any
| pointers for such a port ... or build ggobi without graphviz support.
| 
| see https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244263 for the build log.

One more follow-up:  Not only does this build cleanly on Debian as shown by 

https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ggobi

it also just build cleanly again in my chroot. I'd be happy to share the
build log.

Dirk




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Bug#727611: ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34)

2013-10-24 Thread Matthias Klose
Control: reopen -1

Am 25.10.2013 04:05, schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
 
 On 24 October 2013 at 17:05, Matthias Klose wrote:
 | Package: ggobi
 | Version: 2.1.10-4
 | Severity: wishlist
 | 
 | ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34).  If there 
 any
 | pointers for such a port ... or build ggobi without graphviz support.
 | 
 | see https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244263 for the build log.
 
 One more follow-up:  Not only does this build cleanly on Debian as shown by 
 
 https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ggobi
 
 it also just build cleanly again in my chroot. I'd be happy to share the
 build log.

see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ggobi/2.1.10-4build1/+build/5154829

Debian still has graphiz-2.2x. There is a reason I did file this as a wishlist
issue.


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Bug#727611: ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34)

2013-10-24 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel

tags 727611 +wontfix
thanks

On 25 October 2013 at 04:13, Matthias Klose wrote:
| Control: reopen -1
| 
| Am 25.10.2013 04:05, schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
|  
|  On 24 October 2013 at 17:05, Matthias Klose wrote:
|  | Package: ggobi
|  | Version: 2.1.10-4
|  | Severity: wishlist
|  | 
|  | ggobi needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (graphviz-2.34).  If there 
any
|  | pointers for such a port ... or build ggobi without graphviz support.
|  | 
|  | see https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244263 for the build log.
|  
|  One more follow-up:  Not only does this build cleanly on Debian as shown by 
|  
|  https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ggobi
|  
|  it also just build cleanly again in my chroot. I'd be happy to share the
|  build log.
| 
| see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ggobi/2.1.10-4build1/+build/5154829
| 
| Debian still has graphiz-2.2x. There is a reason I did file this as a wishlist
| issue.

Well that is sort of silly.  For as long this builds on Debian I am not going
to do anything, realistically. Let me know when a new / updated graphviz hits
Debian.

And I say this as a heavy Ubuntu user -- with maybe a dozen machines between
home and work.  But my workflow _for Debian_ is still the same, and if you
insist that Ubuntu (downstream) has to differ than this is really an issue
for patches at your end (as you've done, doing your users a disservice by
removing the GraphLayout plugin) and not something I can do.

Dirk

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