Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi, On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 07:45:12AM +0200, Per Andersson wrote: I don't think this is a particularly good measure since the blends are relatively unknown. I think it is not a measure for a sequence but rather a measure whether a Blend should be included or not. For instance I missed multimedia-tasks in my list (for the simple reason that I have not seen any relevant commit since nearly one year). But for sure multimedia is quite important for our users and perhaps the fact that there is a chance to prominently be shown in the installer might be a motivation for multimedia maintainers to review the tasks (both team members who previously commited to Git in CC). $ curl -s 'http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst' | grep -e '-tasks ' 10053 education-tasks 983 355 448 173 7 (Debian Edu Developers) 10929 science-tasks83076 6605836 (Debian Science Team) 11000 junior-tasks 818 0 0 0 818 (Debian Junior) 15895 plasma-widget-smooth-tasks 37071 28514 0 (Salvo Rinaldi) 17234 gis-tasks305 0 0 0 305 (Debian Gis Project) 17279 med-tasks30426 2501117 (Debian Med Packaging Team) 21947 multimedia-tasks 166 0 0 0 166 (Debian Multimedia Maintainers) 32922 games-tasks 57 0 0 057 (Debian Games Team) 34392 debichem-tasks50 0 0 050 (Debichem Team) 35076 ezgo-tasks47 0 0 047 (Debain Ezgo Packaging Team) 41997 tine20-tasks 271311 1 2 (Not in sid) 69244 site-tasks 5 0 0 0 5 (Not in sid) 93698 agenda-tasks 1 1 0 0 0 (Not in sid) (column 3 is install count among active popcon users; descending order) It would also only rate Science, Edu, and Med (in that order) which might be good top candidates anyway, but other blends have zero (0) installations among active popcon users. So in any case, some ordering except popcon install count is necessary. I'd consider alphabetic ordering as sensible enough. I would not (mis)use popcon stats as ordering criterion in this case. I suppose questions regarding ordering can be: 1) What do we think Debian users want to install? 2) Are there any blends in particular good shape? I think both criterions are not as objective as alphabetic order. Think of our language selection menu? Should we try to rank it according to the user base of a certain language or the translation status? I think this gets a clear no. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: Hi, On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 07:45:12AM +0200, Per Andersson wrote: I don't think this is a particularly good measure since the blends are relatively unknown. I think it is not a measure for a sequence but rather a measure whether a Blend should be included or not. Possibly, but the fact is that only three blends have more than zero installs. Better then to have some criterion for inclusion, possibly as simple as having a $BLEND-tasks package for tasksel. For instance I missed multimedia-tasks in my list (for the simple reason that I have not seen any relevant commit since nearly one year). But for sure multimedia is quite important for our users and perhaps the fact that there is a chance to prominently be shown in the installer might be a motivation for multimedia maintainers to review the tasks (both team members who previously commited to Git in CC). $ curl -s 'http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst' | grep -e '-tasks ' 10053 education-tasks 983 355 448 173 7 (Debian Edu Developers) 10929 science-tasks83076 6605836 (Debian Science Team) 11000 junior-tasks 818 0 0 0 818 (Debian Junior) 15895 plasma-widget-smooth-tasks 37071 28514 0 (Salvo Rinaldi) 17234 gis-tasks305 0 0 0 305 (Debian Gis Project) 17279 med-tasks30426 2501117 (Debian Med Packaging Team) 21947 multimedia-tasks 166 0 0 0 166 (Debian Multimedia Maintainers) 32922 games-tasks 57 0 0 057 (Debian Games Team) 34392 debichem-tasks50 0 0 050 (Debichem Team) 35076 ezgo-tasks47 0 0 047 (Debain Ezgo Packaging Team) 41997 tine20-tasks 271311 1 2 (Not in sid) 69244 site-tasks 5 0 0 0 5 (Not in sid) 93698 agenda-tasks 1 1 0 0 0 (Not in sid) (column 3 is install count among active popcon users; descending order) It would also only rate Science, Edu, and Med (in that order) which might be good top candidates anyway, but other blends have zero (0) installations among active popcon users. So in any case, some ordering except popcon install count is necessary. I'd consider alphabetic ordering as sensible enough. I would not (mis)use popcon stats as ordering criterion in this case. I suppose questions regarding ordering can be: 1) What do we think Debian users want to install? 2) Are there any blends in particular good shape? I think both criterions are not as objective as alphabetic order. Think of our language selection menu? Should we try to rank it according to the user base of a certain language or the translation status? I think this gets a clear no. Very good point. I agree with this of course. -- Per Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-blends-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140903064011.ge23...@an3as.eu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi Per, On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 02:50:19PM +0200, Per Andersson wrote: I think it is not a measure for a sequence but rather a measure whether a Blend should be included or not. Possibly, but the fact is that only three blends have more than zero installs. Better then to have some criterion for inclusion, possibly as simple as having a $BLEND-tasks package for tasksel. Ahhh, I see you are refering to the third data column (vote). Well, I think popcon simply is failing for metapackages. You usually do not vote for the tasks package but rather for the installed depedencies, right? chance to prominently be shown in the installer might be a motivation for multimedia maintainers to review the tasks (both team members who previously commited to Git in CC). $ curl -s 'http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst' | grep -e '-tasks ' 10053 education-tasks 983 355 448 173 7 (Debian Edu Developers) 10929 science-tasks83076 6605836 (Debian Science Team) 11000 junior-tasks 818 0 0 0 818 (Debian Junior) 15895 plasma-widget-smooth-tasks 37071 28514 0 (Salvo Rinaldi) 17234 gis-tasks305 0 0 0 305 (Debian Gis Project) 17279 med-tasks30426 2501117 (Debian Med Packaging Team) 21947 multimedia-tasks 166 0 0 0 166 (Debian Multimedia Maintainers) 32922 games-tasks 57 0 0 057 (Debian Games Team) 34392 debichem-tasks50 0 0 050 (Debichem Team) 35076 ezgo-tasks47 0 0 047 (Debain Ezgo Packaging Team) 41997 tine20-tasks 271311 1 2 (Not in sid) 69244 site-tasks 5 0 0 0 5 (Not in sid) 93698 agenda-tasks 1 1 0 0 0 (Not in sid) (column 3 is install count among active popcon users; descending order) I think both criterions are not as objective as alphabetic order. Think of our language selection menu? Should we try to rank it according to the user base of a certain language or the translation status? I think this gets a clear no. Very good point. I agree with this of course. :-) Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi, On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: Hi, On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 07:45:12AM +0200, Per Andersson wrote: I don't think this is a particularly good measure since the blends are relatively unknown. I think it is not a measure for a sequence but rather a measure whether a Blend should be included or not. For instance I missed multimedia-tasks in my list (for the simple reason that I have not seen any relevant commit since nearly one year). But for sure multimedia is quite important for our users and perhaps the fact that there is a chance to prominently be shown in the installer might be a motivation for multimedia maintainers to review the tasks (both team members who previously commited to Git in CC). Sorry for not commenting on the bug but we did start a discussion within the multimedia team on wether we want to pursue this or not. Unfortunately, there seems to not be enough manpower to actually prepare a reasonable set of tasks. We did discuss what would be desirable, but nobody actually stepped up and offered to do the job. I would very much like to have the multimedia tasks included, but unfortunately I think they are not high quality enough at the moment, and I can't commit to improving them in the short term (ie, before the freeze). -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org wrote: On 26/08/14 12:27, Andreas Tille wrote: H[...] Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. Perhaps a way to decide the ordering of items in the menu - popcon.d.o can give some relative figures on Blends' install base, but I don't know if this definitely includes all of them: I don't think this is a particularly good measure since the blends are relatively unknown. $ curl -s 'http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst' | grep -e '-tasks ' 10053 education-tasks 983 355 448 173 7 (Debian Edu Developers) 10929 science-tasks83076 6605836 (Debian Science Team) 11000 junior-tasks 818 0 0 0 818 (Debian Junior) 15895 plasma-widget-smooth-tasks 37071 28514 0 (Salvo Rinaldi) 17234 gis-tasks305 0 0 0 305 (Debian Gis Project) 17279 med-tasks30426 2501117 (Debian Med Packaging Team) 21947 multimedia-tasks 166 0 0 0 166 (Debian Multimedia Maintainers) 32922 games-tasks 57 0 0 057 (Debian Games Team) 34392 debichem-tasks50 0 0 050 (Debichem Team) 35076 ezgo-tasks47 0 0 047 (Debain Ezgo Packaging Team) 41997 tine20-tasks 271311 1 2 (Not in sid) 69244 site-tasks 5 0 0 0 5 (Not in sid) 93698 agenda-tasks 1 1 0 0 0 (Not in sid) (column 3 is install count among active popcon users; descending order) It would also only rate Science, Edu, and Med (in that order) which might be good top candidates anyway, but other blends have zero (0) installations among active popcon users. So in any case, some ordering except popcon install count is necessary. I suppose questions regarding ordering can be: 1) What do we think Debian users want to install? 2) Are there any blends in particular good shape? -- Per Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-blends-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5404ca5c.4030...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
On 26/08/14 12:27, Andreas Tille wrote: H[...] Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. Perhaps a way to decide the ordering of items in the menu - popcon.d.o can give some relative figures on Blends' install base, but I don't know if this definitely includes all of them: $ curl -s 'http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst' | grep -e '-tasks ' 10053 education-tasks 983 355 448 173 7 (Debian Edu Developers) 10929 science-tasks83076 6605836 (Debian Science Team) 11000 junior-tasks 818 0 0 0 818 (Debian Junior) 15895 plasma-widget-smooth-tasks 37071 28514 0 (Salvo Rinaldi) 17234 gis-tasks305 0 0 0 305 (Debian Gis Project) 17279 med-tasks30426 2501117 (Debian Med Packaging Team) 21947 multimedia-tasks 166 0 0 0 166 (Debian Multimedia Maintainers) 32922 games-tasks 57 0 0 057 (Debian Games Team) 34392 debichem-tasks50 0 0 050 (Debichem Team) 35076 ezgo-tasks47 0 0 047 (Debain Ezgo Packaging Team) 41997 tine20-tasks 271311 1 2 (Not in sid) 69244 site-tasks 5 0 0 0 5 (Not in sid) 93698 agenda-tasks 1 1 0 0 0 (Not in sid) (column 3 is install count among active popcon users; descending order) Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#311188: Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi Jonas, hi all, On Do 28 Aug 2014 18:39:34 CEST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: ...another more descriptive, I believe, answer could be You don't really have a Debian Edu system when installing it on a Debian system. I believe that second elaborated view is the reason for Mike's question. To me it is far from perfectly sense to offer Debian Edu in debian-installer to get some educational software - I would expect to get a Debian Edu system. - Jonas That's what I was aiming at! Jonas, thanks for reading inbetween my lines and verbalizing the unsaid. :-) We are currently testing deployment of Debian Edu systems by installing vanilla Debian and then pulling in required packages on post-installation. The results will come in by the end of next week (once I have time for looking at finalizing those installations). There are packages in debian-edu SVN [1] (educlient, eduroaming) that have some post-installation logic turning a Debian system into a Skolelinux / Debian Edu system, as well. I will probably take a look at those, as well, during our test cycle. Originally, they were designed to turn Ubuntu systems into Debian Edu client machines AFAIR. So let's see. But still, I guess it is pointless offering a Debian Edu blend in D-I if the result after installation won't be a proper Debian Edu workstation. Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpPkHYaoStlh.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi Franklin, On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 08:57:37AM +0800, Franklin Weng wrote: I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Debian ezgo blends is active. (Is that what you meant to reply so that the blends can be kept active?) Ahh, sorry for leaving out EzGo in the list given in my initial bug report. What I really meant is: 1. Do you think Blends should be listed by tasksel at installation time. 2. Do you want to be Debian EzGo added to this list. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
On 28/08/14 00:53, Holger Levsen wrote: On Mittwoch, 27. August 2014, Mike Gabriel wrote: I guess this only makes sense if a Debian Edu machine (standalone) can be installed via Debian's normal D-I, right? why? and why limit this to stabalone? Do the regular Debian Edu installers do some special configuration before the tasksel stage? Might this be too late in the installer to correctly install at least some of the machine types? Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi Andreas, 2014-08-28 14:23 GMT+08:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: Hi Franklin, On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 08:57:37AM +0800, Franklin Weng wrote: I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Debian ezgo blends is active. (Is that what you meant to reply so that the blends can be kept active?) Ahh, sorry for leaving out EzGo in the list given in my initial bug report. What I really meant is: 1. Do you think Blends should be listed by tasksel at installation time. Yes 2. Do you want to be Debian EzGo added to this list. Yes, and that's the original idea when Andrew created Debian ezgo blends. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de Thanks, Franklin
Bug#311188: Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
[dropping persons from recipients, and adding bug#311188 ] Quoting Steven Chamberlain (2014-08-28 14:05:22) On 28/08/14 00:53, Holger Levsen wrote: On Mittwoch, 27. August 2014, Mike Gabriel wrote: I guess this only makes sense if a Debian Edu machine (standalone) can be installed via Debian's normal D-I, right? why? and why limit this to stabalone? Do the regular Debian Edu installers do some special configuration before the tasksel stage? Might this be too late in the installer to correctly install at least some of the machine types? The package debian-edu-install ships /etc/init.d/xdebian-edu-firstboot, registers debconf question debian-edu-install/run-firstboot, and checks for magic file /etc/debian-edu/xdebian-edu-firstboot.. The package debian.edu-config ships a range of CFEngine scripts and /usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/run-at-firstboot. Above mechanisms stay dormant, however, unless triggered correctly - i.e. when installed on a normal system, nothing (bad) happens[1]. One answer to your question could therefore be a simple no. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/bug=311188#217 ...another more descriptive, I believe, answer could be You don't really have a Debian Edu system when installing it on a Debian system. I believe that second elaborated view is the reason for Mike's question. To me it is far from perfectly sense to offer Debian Edu in debian-installer to get some educational software - I would expect to get a Debian Edu system. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi Andreas, [taking all lists except debian-blends and debian-edu off the loop...] On Di 26 Aug 2014 13:27:23 CEST, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC. Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Any input is welcome to make sure users will realise the fruits of your great work at the earliest point in time. Kind regards Andreas. I guess this only makes sense if a Debian Edu machine (standalone) can be installed via Debian's normal D-I, right? @Petter: is that possible? Do you know? Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby fon: +49 (1520) 1976 148 GnuPG Key ID 0x25771B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpLOB1lTslKN.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi Mike, On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:08:27AM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: I guess this only makes sense if a Debian Edu machine (standalone) can be installed via Debian's normal D-I, right? Why do you think only this is would make sense? IMHO it would make perfectly sense to feed a freshly installed box with educational software. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi, On Mittwoch, 27. August 2014, Mike Gabriel wrote: I guess this only makes sense if a Debian Edu machine (standalone) can be installed via Debian's normal D-I, right? why? and why limit this to stabalone? cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
2014/8/26 下午7:28 於 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu 寫道： Hi, I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Debian ezgo blends is active. (Is that what you meant to reply so that the blends can be kept active?) Franklin
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi, yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC. Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Any input is welcome to make sure users will realise the fruits of your great work at the earliest point in time. Kind regards Andreas. [1] https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/44/debian-installer-and-cd-bof/ -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
On 08/26/2014 01:27 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I second the inclusion of Debian GIS tasks, as I would love for the Debian GIS tasks to be installable via d-i. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/E88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Le Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 01:27:23PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : Hi, yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC. Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Any input is welcome to make sure users will realise the fruits of your great work at the earliest point in time. Hi Andreas, Joey and everybody, I am sure that it would be great for Debian Med to have the Blends as first-class citizens in the Debian Installer. While it is not difficult to install the metapackages by hand, I expect that having it as an option in the installer will help convincing people to give it a try. Have a nice day, Charles -- Charles Plessy Debian Med packaging team, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Greetings, Fellow Debianites, On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 01:27:23PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC. Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Any input is welcome to make sure users will realise the fruits of your great work at the earliest point in time. Yes, I have to say that I would find it awesome if we could list at install time the blends that are available. In my opinion, this feature would undoubtedly help the user and give the feeling that things are cleverly organised in Debian and that everything is made to simplify the system installation, which is of great importance if we think that Debian still has the reputation of being difficult to deal with at install time. Thanks, Andreas to bring this forward for us not at the DebConf or not immediately involved with the installer-related topics. Cheers, Filippo -- Filippo Rusconi, PhD - public crypto key 7694CF42@ pgp.mit.edu Researcher at CNRS and Debian Developer lopi...@debian.org Author of ``massXpert'' at http://www.massxpert.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hello! (sorry for top posting) DebianParl is a blend that could also be in taskel, no? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl Best regards. //Erik -Original Message- From: Charles Plessy [mailto:ple...@debian.org] Sent: 26 August 2014 14:09 To: 758...@bugs.debian.org; debian-ble...@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel Le Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 01:27:23PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : Hi, yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC. Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Any input is welcome to make sure users will realise the fruits of your great work at the earliest point in time. Hi Andreas, Joey and everybody, I am sure that it would be great for Debian Med to have the Blends as first-class citizens in the Debian Installer. While it is not difficult to install the metapackages by hand, I expect that having it as an option in the installer will help convincing people to give it a try. Have a nice day, Charles -- Charles Plessy Debian Med packaging team, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-blends-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140826120926.ga5...@falafel.plessy.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
On 26.08.2014 13:27, Andreas Tille wrote: [...} I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Any input is welcome to make sure users will realise the fruits of your great work at the earliest point in time. Hi, I would really like to see that the tasks of the Debian Games Blend are installable via d-i. A package with tasksel descriptions, »games-tasks«, is already available. Please let me know if there is anything else that can be done from my side. Regards, Markus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
[ replying only to bug + list - hope all are subscribed ] Quoting JOSEFSSON Erik (2014-08-26 16:27:43) Hello! (sorry for top posting) Feeling sorry is no use. Consider at least strip fullquote next time. DebianParl is a blend that could also be in taskel, no? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl DebianParl is a blend, yes, but currently not defined by metapackage(s) so cannot technically be included in tasksel. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
Hi Andreas, Yes. It is a great idea to be able to choose your blend at installation time. Most of my machines are used for different purposes, and not to have to remember the name of a meta-package to install after the initial installation would be fantastic. It is much easier to tell someone new to install Debian and select Debian GIS from the list, than to refer them to a wiki with post-installation instructions. Cheers, Ross -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: Hi, yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC. Joey Hess raised the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered all in the list of the bug report #758116 which IMHO fits the criterion of actively maintained and some valuable content for users. I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists in question to ask you for confirmation. I have set Reply-To to the bug report and the general Blends list in case you are interested in further discussion with other Blends. Any input is welcome to make sure users will realise the fruits of your great work at the earliest point in time. Since I have revived the Debian Junior blend I also, as previous posters, think it is a superb idea to be able to easily install this and other blends. Since I missed the d-i and cd BoF, what is needed to make this happen? Is there anything I can do to help? -- Per -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
