Bug#911403: Please always include a copyright notice in 'LicenseWithSummary::summary_or_text'

2018-10-29 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Dominique,

I am fine with your suggestion. We will wait for your implementation.
Thank you for providing this package!

Kind regards,
Felix

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:44 AM Dominique Dumont  wrote:
>
> On Monday, 29 October 2018 16:51:45 CET you wrote:
> > I am happy to provide patches and merge requests that implement your
> > idea,
>
> Thanks. But the change is trivial. I can do it on my side.
>
> We just need to find a common ground that allow fixing #905614
>
> > but are you sure there are other meaningful consumers of the
> > summary_or_text method?
>
> Absolutely not. But keeping backward compat with already published modules is
> one of the best values of the Perl community. I intend to keep that promise as
> much as possible
>
> > Your posting [1] restricts uses to Debian
>
> Debian and its 100+ derivates.
>
> > , and
> > a search on codesearch.debian.net shows no other packages that rely on
> > the current implementation that produces a copyright notice with a
> > full text but not with a summary. Why is the current implementation
> > worth keeping?
>
> Because we can't be sure that nobody will be impacted. A user may be relying
> on summary_or_text but has not (or will not) publish her or his code.
>
> > Please forgive me if I appear insistent. It's the only
> > question I have.
>
> No problem. You're right to challenge what is not clear :-)
>
> All the best
>
>
>
>



Bug#911403: Please always include a copyright notice in 'LicenseWithSummary::summary_or_text'

2018-10-29 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday, 29 October 2018 16:51:45 CET you wrote:
> I am happy to provide patches and merge requests that implement your
> idea, 

Thanks. But the change is trivial. I can do it on my side. 

We just need to find a common ground that allow fixing #905614 

> but are you sure there are other meaningful consumers of the
> summary_or_text method? 

Absolutely not. But keeping backward compat with already published modules is 
one of the best values of the Perl community. I intend to keep that promise as 
much as possible

> Your posting [1] restricts uses to Debian

Debian and its 100+ derivates. 

> , and
> a search on codesearch.debian.net shows no other packages that rely on
> the current implementation that produces a copyright notice with a
> full text but not with a summary. Why is the current implementation
> worth keeping? 

Because we can't be sure that nobody will be impacted. A user may be relying 
on summary_or_text but has not (or will not) publish her or his code.

> Please forgive me if I appear insistent. It's the only
> question I have.

No problem. You're right to challenge what is not clear :-)

All the best



Bug#911403: Please always include a copyright notice in 'LicenseWithSummary::summary_or_text'

2018-10-29 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday, 29 October 2018 15:21:25 CET you wrote:
> I'm not thrilled at the idea of changing the behavior of summary_or_text
> method because the implementation would no longer match its behavior.

Oops, this sentence does not make sense.

I meant that "the function name would no longer match its behavior."

All the best



Bug#911403: Please always include a copyright notice in 'LicenseWithSummary::summary_or_text'

2018-10-29 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Dominique,

I am happy to provide patches and merge requests that implement your
idea, but are you sure there are other meaningful consumers of the
summary_or_text method? Your posting [1] restricts uses to Debian, and
a search on codesearch.debian.net shows no other packages that rely on
the current implementation that produces a copyright notice with a
full text but not with a summary. Why is the current implementation
worth keeping? Please forgive me if I appear insistent. It's the only
question I have. Thank you!

Kind regards,
Felix

[1] 
https://ddumont.wordpress.com/2018/07/07/new-softwarelicensemoreutils-perl-module/


On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 7:22 AM Dominique Dumont  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:57:56 +0200 gregor herrmann  wrote:
> > Dominique, could you look into this patch, please?
>
> yes, sorry for the delay.
>
> I'm not thrilled at the idea of changing the behavior of summary_or_text
> method because the implementation would no longer match its behavior.
>
> Felix, how about un-deprecating debian_text method and putting your code there
> ?
>
> All the best
>
>



Bug#911403: Please always include a copyright notice in 'LicenseWithSummary::summary_or_text'

2018-10-29 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:57:56 +0200 gregor herrmann  wrote:
> Dominique, could you look into this patch, please?

yes, sorry for the delay.

I'm not thrilled at the idea of changing the behavior of summary_or_text 
method because the implementation would no longer match its behavior.

Felix, how about un-deprecating debian_text method and putting your code there 
?

All the best



Bug#911403: Please always include a copyright notice in 'LicenseWithSummary::summary_or_text'

2018-10-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:55:25 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote:

> The routine 'LicenseWithSummary::summary' produces only a license
> summary, while 'Software::License::fulltext' produces a copyright
> notice in addition to the full text. Please return a copyright notice
> when producing a summary in 'LicenseWithSummary::summary_or_text' so
> the output of the method becomes more symmetrical. Attached please
> find a patch. Thank you!

Thanks.

Dominique, could you look into this patch, please?
 

Cheers,
gregor

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