Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Chris Lamb 2019-11-14 
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> 2.35.0~bpo9+1 and 2.35.0~bpo10+1 uploaded to {stretch,buster}-backports
> respectfully.

Thanks!

Christoph



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-14 Thread Chris Lamb
Chris Lamb wrote:

> > Or, do I need to backport the patch to that specific version?
> 
> If you mean backport it to that particular branch... then no; we just
> need to do a regular backport upload. I do that after its migrated to
> testing to follow the rules, so we are a few days off this landing in
> stretch alas. (As in; I need to do an unstable upload first that
> includes this commit and let that migrate...)

2.35.0~bpo9+1 and 2.35.0~bpo10+1 uploaded to {stretch,buster}-backports
respectfully.


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Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-10 Thread Chris Lamb
tags 944258 + pending
thanks

Felix,

> Was this not resolved by the following?

I didn't see this commit; I likely assumed you would followup to the
bug explicitly and the lack of automatic "pending" is likely due to
"(Closes #944258)" vs. "(Closes: #944258)" with the colon. No matter,
doing it manually above - these things happen.

> Or, do I need to backport the patch to that specific version?

If you mean backport it to that particular branch... then no; we just
need to do a regular backport upload. I do that after its migrated to
testing to follow the rules, so we are a few days off this landing in
stretch alas. (As in; I need to do an unstable upload first that
includes this commit and let that migrate...)


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2019-11-10 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> tags 944258 + pending
Bug #944258 [lintian] lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on 
coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3
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Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-10 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Chris,

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 10:06 AM Chris Lamb  wrote:
>
> Felix, can you do the "honours" here?

Was this not resolved by the following?


https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/commit/33bd1434f0c160770a26bea55328e5bf7545322f

As you can see, I marked the bug as closed. The BTS never switched to
pending, presumably due to the version restriction via 'found'.

Or, do I need to backport the patch to that specific version?

Kind regards,
Felix Lechner



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-10 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi,

> lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils
> (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

I'd like to resolve this issue and as a new upload of coreutils seems
to be neither warranted, 100% essential and (practically-speaking)
forthcoming, I would request that we do whatever we need to do to weaken
this dependency. Felix, can you do the "honours" here?


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Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-08 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Hi Michael,

what is your opinion on a backport of coreutils 8.30-3 to stretch?
Background: lintian recently bumped the dependency to coreutils (>=
8.30) because it uses some newer feature, breaking its backport to
stretch. (#944258)

I could build it on stretch(+stretch-backports?) without needing to do
any changes to the package and I'm running this on a single machine
(running stretch with a selected set of packages from backports, buster
and sid) without having encountered problems so far.

But I'd prefer not to take the responsibility of doing an official
backport of a core package like coreutils. IMO this would be better done
by you (as coreutils maintainer) or the lintian maintainers (since this
is needed for the lintian backport).


Andreas



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Christoph Berg
Am 7. November 2019 23:19:51 MEZ schrieb Felix Lechner 
:
>Hi Chris,
>
>On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 2:07 PM Chris Lamb  wrote:
>>
>> I do not understand the frequency that Christoph's checks
>> his email has any bearing here. Can you elaborate?
>
>Unfortunately, I can only speculate that he meant to present a sense
>of urgency. If a new release is needed, Christoph should speak up.
>From my perspective no action is required.
>
>Kind regards,
>Felix Lechner

The package is not installable at the moment. That fact alone should warrant an 
upload.

Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Chris,

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 2:07 PM Chris Lamb  wrote:
>
> I do not understand the frequency that Christoph's checks
> his email has any bearing here. Can you elaborate?

Unfortunately, I can only speculate that he meant to present a sense
of urgency. If a new release is needed, Christoph should speak up.
>From my perspective no action is required.

Kind regards,
Felix Lechner



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Felix,

> Since Christoph receives emails every six hours, a new release may
> be in order.

Thanks for addressing this. I did just release Lintian prior to this
change, but I do not understand the frequency that Christoph's checks
his email has any bearing here. Can you elaborate? I suspect I'm
missing something.


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Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi,

The version requirement was dropped:


https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/commit/33bd1434f0c160770a26bea55328e5bf7545322f

Since Christoph receives emails every six hours, a new release may be in order.

Thank you for your patience as we work to make Lintian better for everyone.

Kind regards,
Felix Lechner

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:34 AM Adam D. Barratt
 wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2019-11-07 at 10:49 -0800, Felix Lechner wrote:
> > Also, as a side note, would someone please explain why someone still
> > on stretch would need lintian? I am personally on stable, but most
> > package maintainers out there seem to track testing or the bleeding
> > edge, unstable.
>
> Well, at least some debian.org infrastructure, including the ftp-master
> host, are still running stretch, for a starting point.
>
> Regards,
>
> Adam
>



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Felix Lechner 2019-11-07 

> Also, as a side note, would someone please explain why someone still
> on stretch would need lintian? I am personally on stable, but most
> package maintainers out there seem to track testing or the bleeding
> edge, unstable.

sbuild recently started running lintian by default. Since the
apt.postgresql.org build host was upgraded from stretch to buster,
lintian is now running in every chroot. I forgot why I upgraded the
lintian version in the stretch chroot to the one from
stretch-backports, but that's we are now, and at the moment I get
reminded every 6 hours via failing jenkins jobs that this package
can't upgrade.

Christoph



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2019-11-07 at 10:49 -0800, Felix Lechner wrote:
> Also, as a side note, would someone please explain why someone still
> on stretch would need lintian? I am personally on stable, but most
> package maintainers out there seem to track testing or the bleeding
> edge, unstable.

Well, at least some debian.org infrastructure, including the ftp-master 
host, are still running stretch, for a starting point.

Regards,

Adam



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Felix,

> Yes, we probably can but I would like to understand, please, why
> coreutils 8.30 (which, according to Andreas Beckmann, builds cleanly
> in stretch) cannot find its way into stretch-bpo.

Backporting such a big package (with likely lots of other changes)
does not seem particularly conservative (or even safe) thing to do.

> Also, as a side note, would someone please explain why someone still
> on stretch would need lintian?

We will obviously drop supporting stretch eventually but I'm not sure
that time has come just yet. LTS work is just one example. Also,
stretch chroots/Docker images on CI systems, etc. etc. Not everybody
is using Lintian the way you are. :)


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Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:33 AM Chris Lamb  wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure if that means that backport is really going to appear in
> > stretch-backports.
>
> That is my reading of it too. Felix, can we drop this requirement on
> coreutils for the time being? (I'm afraid I wasn't following the
> details at the time it was introduced.)

Yes, we probably can but I would like to understand, please, why
coreutils 8.30 (which, according to Andreas Beckmann, builds cleanly
in stretch) cannot find its way into stretch-bpo.

Also, as a side note, would someone please explain why someone still
on stretch would need lintian? I am personally on stable, but most
package maintainers out there seem to track testing or the bleeding
edge, unstable.

Kind regards,
Felix Lechner



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Chris Lamb
Christoph Berg wrote:


> > According to Andreas Beckmann, coreutils 8.30 is in the process of
> > being ported to stretch.
[…]
> I'm not sure if that means that backport is really going to appear in
> stretch-backports.

That is my reading of it too. Felix, can we drop this requirement on
coreutils for the time being? (I'm afraid I wasn't following the
details at the time it was introduced.)


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Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-07 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Felix Lechner 2019-11-06 

> According to Andreas Beckmann, coreutils 8.30 is in the process of
> being ported to stretch.

Thanks for the feedback.

> For details, please have a look at the PS here:
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=943910#25

I'm not sure if that means that backport is really going to appear in
stretch-backports.

My build chroots for stretch are broken at the moment, it would really
be nice if this could either be carried forward rsn, or the lintian
backport upgrade be reverted.

Christoph



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-06 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Christoph,

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:48 PM Christoph Berg  wrote:
>
> coreutils:
>   Versionstabelle:
>  *** 8.26-3 500

According to Andreas Beckmann, coreutils 8.30 is in the process of
being ported to stretch.

For details, please have a look at the PS here:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=943910#25

Kind regards,
Felix Lechner

CC: Andreas Beckmann



Bug#944258: lintian 2.32.0~bpo9+1 in stretch-backports depends on coreutils (>= 8.30), but stretch has only 8.26-3

2019-11-06 Thread Christoph Berg
Package: lintian
Version: 2.32.0~bpo9+1
Severity: grave

Package: lintian
Version: 2.32.0~bpo9+1
Installed-Size: 5665
Maintainer: Debian Lintian Maintainers 
Architecture: all
Replaces: funny-manpages (<< 1.3-5.1)
Depends: binutils, bzip2, coreutils (>= 8.30), ...

coreutils:
  Installiert:   8.26-3
  Installationskandidat: 8.26-3
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 8.26-3 500
500 http://debian-approx:/debian stretch/main ppc64el Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Christoph