Re: contents of the first sarge CD image

2003-07-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:31:43AM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan écrivait:
 BTW, I was wondering if we should also use SECURED=1 or not :-?

Well, it doesn't seem necessary to me until apt has real support for
checking the signatures. It also takes more space than needed. So leave
it out for the moment.

Cheers,
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Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge

2003-07-24 Thread John Winters
Hi all,

I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing 
snapshots of Sarge.  Currently it appears that the only way one can 
download the official .jigdo files for unofficial Sarge CDs (!) is by 
means of http from gluck.debian.org.  This is inefficient, particularly 
if one wants to keep doing it.  Is there any way they could be made 
available by rsync?

Cheers,
John
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Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge

2003-07-24 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, John Winters wrote:

 Hi all,

 I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing
 snapshots of Sarge.  Currently it appears that the only way one can
 download the official .jigdo files for unofficial Sarge CDs (!) is by
 means of http from gluck.debian.org.  This is inefficient, particularly
 if one wants to keep doing it.  Is there any way they could be made
 available by rsync?

This is in the plans for the new cdimage.debian.org so you could mirror
from there. But then I too need an efficient method of getting them to
that host.

/Mattias Wadenstein


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sarge first i386 CD musings

2003-07-24 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi,

Some things I can't quite understand...

--- sarge-i386-1.jigdo.from-gluck
+++ sarge-i386-1.jigdo.from-localhost
@@ -3 +3 @@
-Generator=jigdo-file/0.7.0
+Generator=jigdo-file/0.6.8
@@ -6,5 +6,5 @@
-Filename=sarge-i386-1.iso
-Template=jigdotemplates/sarge-i386-1.template
-Template-MD5Sum=F1k2xEqlhUxsys6mze6iew
-ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux testing Sarge - Official Snapshot i386 Binary-1 CD'
-Info='Generated on Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:58:59 -0600'
+Filename=debian-testing-i386-binary-1.iso
+Template=http://ftp.hr.debian.org/debian-cd/test/templates/i386/sarge-i386-1.template
+Template-MD5Sum=QVuHrFvODBqoIxUdELOGBg
+ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux testing Sarge - Unofficial i386 Binary-1 CD'
+Info='Generated on Thu, 24 Jul 2003 18:25:40 +0200'
@@ -77,3 +37,0 @@
-irwNb9Bat3UU2RyBhpPHvw=Debian:pool/main/b/base-installer/base-installer_0.024_all.udeb
@@ -103 +59,0 @@
-E1nErp43_-PYQvegDfRu7g=Debian:pool/main/b/baseconfig-udeb/baseconfig-udeb_0.014_all.udeb
@@ -150 +104,0 @@
-UnqXwk9VKIy31XA28dAaew=Debian:pool/main/c/cdebconf/libdebconfclient0-udeb_0.38_i386.udeb
@@ -155 +108,0 @@
-JzPYNgfaZWTzBew3wgIUlQ=Debian:pool/main/c/cdrom-retriever/cdrom-retriever_0.08_all.udeb
@@ -172 +124,0 @@
-biv0QJFkYxmmx4LSNPFpaw=Debian:pool/main/c/console-data/console-keymaps-mac_2002.12.04dbs-13_all.udeb
@@ -211,2 +162,0 @@
-QHveYw88XovRC_hIUgWBlQ=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-generic_0.22_all.udeb
-TwithSmZ5fUFDNolOrpBFA=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-mapdevfs_0.24_i386.udeb
@@ -216,3 +165,0 @@
-4yf5ELSz0hICeNJ9G23eHg=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-partitioner_0.21_all.udeb
-g1di4g8Ewb_AqG2pbPV-1Q=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-shell_0.24_i386.udeb
-pwEinkl_MZ-UTCGstMeuTw=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils_0.24_i386.udeb
@@ -285 +231,0 @@
--petVBqhDd4WA8I4WyNfIg=Debian:pool/main/f/floppy-retriever/floppy-retriever_0.06_all.udeb
@@ -316,2 +261,0 @@
-UWargGCsYHB42icDg7w7yg=Debian:pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/g++_3.3-1_i386.deb
-GYRQq4_8hWE_GcxnyHNb-w=Debian:pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/g77_3.3-1_i386.deb
@@ -328 +271,0 @@
-dhZSO2yhDIcxLvkNpoeYUg=Debian:pool/main/g/gdm/gdm_2.4.1.3-2_i386.deb
@@ -337 +279,0 @@
-0fotR4SBbQ0PbHMf-5GI0g=Debian:pool/main/g/gimp1.2/gimp1.2_1.2.3-2.4_i386.deb
@@ -389,0 +332 @@
+xqON3M_p4xP_l0-pKGvWFg=Debian:pool/main/g/gphoto2/gphoto2_2.1.1-3_i386.deb
@@ -455,2 +395,0 @@
-jZ7FkKmiHAdU7ep7lJpLqg=Debian:pool/main/k/kdebase/kate_2.2.2-14_i386.deb
-Oi3Ap76gOEnG75fNLSDNog=Debian:pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase-doc_2.2.2-14_all.deb
@@ -460 +398,0 @@
-3BKXubtjW6EoSbilZeoJtg=Debian:pool/main/k/kdebase/kdm_2.2.2-14_i386.deb
@@ -482 +419,0 @@
-TP5x3msihOJA1WXLw9TX9A=Debian:pool/main/k/kdepim/kdepim-libs_2.2.2-5_i386.deb
@@ -611,0 +547 @@
+1Od9s3UGhobgwLdlRjUnWQ=Debian:pool/main/libc/libcdk/libcdk4_4.9.9-3_i386.deb
@@ -654,0 +591 @@
+_w82jUgGlEVMCeTMj4HXzw=Debian:pool/main/libm/libmailtools-perl/libmailtools-perl_1.58-1_all.deb
@@ -658 +594,0 @@
-z81fYaXZvlSe8xbfc2_VGg=Debian:pool/main/libm/libmpeg1/libmpeg1_1.3.1-2.1_i386.deb
@@ -659,0 +596,3 @@
+5Fw99REesszBZb7RI3WfNQ=Debian:pool/main/libn/libnet-perl/libnet-perl_1.12-1_all.deb
+0A4d0zSFbRsw3WANdPqstg=Debian:pool/main/libn/libnet-ph-perl/libnet-ph-perl_2.21-2_all.deb
+kusDm8F-JxAb3-7EKAk3aQ=Debian:pool/main/libn/libnet-snpp-perl/libnet-snpp-perl_1.11-2.1_all.deb
@@ -754 +692,0 @@
-lcbzCc5-9UBJL-kjbTYB1A=Debian:pool/main/n/net-retriever/net-retriever_0.17_i386.udeb
@@ -943 +880,0 @@
-6v5qFzrg7dgGyKVQ83x2hQ=Debian:pool/main/u/usb-discover/usb-discover_0.01_all.udeb
@@ -957 +893,0 @@
-M4lXJWMwg7K29p7qlLkjCg=Debian:pool/main/w/wget/wget_1.8.2-10_i386.deb

I don't get it. The debian-installer stuff is neatly all listed in the
tasks/debian-installer file -- and yet the above ones are missing.

I've ripped out kernel-source-* for testing purposes, removed the grossly
huge xserver-xfree86-dbg, syslinux, aspell-* packages, and fixed a few
obvious bugs (usually renamed or removed packages), and there really should
be space both for all these things on the CD.

The second CD is even more reshuffled, but it seems that has to do with
the change to prefer all main packages over contrib. I guess I can fix that,
but it should have no effect on the above problems...

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Re: cdimage push mirroring

2003-07-24 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:

 The script and stuff is here:

 http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/debian-push/cdimage/

 It requires jigdo with jigdo-mirror installed. Read the REAME.

 The outline of the script is:
 * Delete the files in ::debian-cd/images/ that aren't on the master
 * Mirror ::debian-cd/jigdo/
 * Generate images from the dir pointed to by current with jigdo-mirror
 * rsync all of ::debian-cd to get symlinks and dates and stuff and be sure
 everything got there correctly

Should this current link be changed into a stable and a testing
link for the current stable and testing versions?

Keeping a few revisions of old jigdos around is probably considered a good
idea, at least for stable revisions. This is reflected in the current
state of farbror.acc.umu.se.

If this is interesting I could add this to the script with the option of
generating isos based on the stable and/or testing links. The downside is
that with options it won't be an exact mirror of the data on cdimage.d.o.

And regarding getting data to farbror, perhaps it would be valuable to get
testing snapshots out and circulating among mirrors? If someone could give
me a private (or public) rsync module on gluck I could start mirroring a
bit.

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Re: sarge first i386 CD musings

2003-07-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 06:52:23PM +0200, joy wrote:
 I've ripped out kernel-source-* for testing purposes, removed the grossly
 huge xserver-xfree86-dbg, syslinux, aspell-* packages, and fixed a few
 obvious bugs (usually renamed or removed packages), and there really should
 be space both for all these things on the CD.

Oh, bleh,

CD 1 filled with 541058198 bytes ... (limit was 55500)
CD 2 filled with 637562572 bytes ... (limit was 639631360)
...

Serves me right for using stupid README file defaults like
SIZELIMIT1=55500 and not paying attention.

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Re: sarge first i386 CD musings

2003-07-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 06:52:23PM +0200, joy wrote:
 I don't get it. The debian-installer stuff is neatly all listed in the
 tasks/debian-installer file -- and yet the above ones are missing.

I guess I should mention that I didn't solve this. Any hints would be
welcome.

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Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Atterer
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:58:09PM +0100, John Winters wrote:
 I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing
 snapshots of Sarge.  Currently it appears that the only way one can
 download the official .jigdo files for unofficial Sarge CDs (!) is by
 means of http from gluck.debian.org.  This is inefficient, particularly
 if one wants to keep doing it.  Is there any way they could be made
 available by rsync?

IMHO, rsync is not more efficient for mirroring .jigdo/.template files than 
http/ftp, because all the data is gzipped. Some more mirrors for the images 
on gluck would still be nice, though.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Unofficial DVD .jigdo files, take 2

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Atterer
Now located at

  http://farbror.acc.umu.se/debian-cd-test/
  
They include non-US this time. Additionally, I tried all arches and src. 
However, it seems something went wrong, the template files are a bit too 
large. Additionally, some arches do not seem to have worked. Any clues 
welcome! :)

Cheers,

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Re: Debian CD contents

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Atterer
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 05:40:47PM +1000, Ronald Kuwawi wrote:
 Hello all, where [url if available] can I find the list of 
 each Debian 3.0 CD contents

Have a look at the appropriate .jigdo files with zless. (Or under Windows, 
rename the .jigdo into .txt.gz and then unpack the file with WinZip.)

Cheers,

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Re: contents of the first sarge CD image

2003-07-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:31:43AM +0200, Santiago Garcia Mantinan écrivait:
 BTW, I was wondering if we should also use SECURED=1 or not :-?

Well, it doesn't seem necessary to me until apt has real support for
checking the signatures. It also takes more space than needed. So leave
it out for the moment.

Cheers,
-- 
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Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com
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Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge

2003-07-24 Thread John Winters
Hi all,
I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing 
snapshots of Sarge.  Currently it appears that the only way one can 
download the official .jigdo files for unofficial Sarge CDs (!) is by 
means of http from gluck.debian.org.  This is inefficient, particularly 
if one wants to keep doing it.  Is there any way they could be made 
available by rsync?

Cheers,
John



Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge

2003-07-24 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, John Winters wrote:

 Hi all,

 I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing
 snapshots of Sarge.  Currently it appears that the only way one can
 download the official .jigdo files for unofficial Sarge CDs (!) is by
 means of http from gluck.debian.org.  This is inefficient, particularly
 if one wants to keep doing it.  Is there any way they could be made
 available by rsync?

This is in the plans for the new cdimage.debian.org so you could mirror
from there. But then I too need an efficient method of getting them to
that host.

/Mattias Wadenstein




sarge first i386 CD musings

2003-07-24 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi,

Some things I can't quite understand...

--- sarge-i386-1.jigdo.from-gluck
+++ sarge-i386-1.jigdo.from-localhost
@@ -3 +3 @@
-Generator=jigdo-file/0.7.0
+Generator=jigdo-file/0.6.8
@@ -6,5 +6,5 @@
-Filename=sarge-i386-1.iso
-Template=jigdotemplates/sarge-i386-1.template
-Template-MD5Sum=F1k2xEqlhUxsys6mze6iew
-ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux testing Sarge - Official Snapshot i386 Binary-1 
CD'
-Info='Generated on Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:58:59 -0600'
+Filename=debian-testing-i386-binary-1.iso
+Template=http://ftp.hr.debian.org/debian-cd/test/templates/i386/sarge-i386-1.template
+Template-MD5Sum=QVuHrFvODBqoIxUdELOGBg
+ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux testing Sarge - Unofficial i386 Binary-1 CD'
+Info='Generated on Thu, 24 Jul 2003 18:25:40 +0200'
@@ -77,3 +37,0 @@
-irwNb9Bat3UU2RyBhpPHvw=Debian:pool/main/b/base-installer/base-installer_0.024_all.udeb
@@ -103 +59,0 @@
-E1nErp43_-PYQvegDfRu7g=Debian:pool/main/b/baseconfig-udeb/baseconfig-udeb_0.014_all.udeb
@@ -150 +104,0 @@
-UnqXwk9VKIy31XA28dAaew=Debian:pool/main/c/cdebconf/libdebconfclient0-udeb_0.38_i386.udeb
@@ -155 +108,0 @@
-JzPYNgfaZWTzBew3wgIUlQ=Debian:pool/main/c/cdrom-retriever/cdrom-retriever_0.08_all.udeb
@@ -172 +124,0 @@
-biv0QJFkYxmmx4LSNPFpaw=Debian:pool/main/c/console-data/console-keymaps-mac_2002.12.04dbs-13_all.udeb
@@ -211,2 +162,0 @@
-QHveYw88XovRC_hIUgWBlQ=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-generic_0.22_all.udeb
-TwithSmZ5fUFDNolOrpBFA=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-mapdevfs_0.24_i386.udeb
@@ -216,3 +165,0 @@
-4yf5ELSz0hICeNJ9G23eHg=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-partitioner_0.21_all.udeb
-g1di4g8Ewb_AqG2pbPV-1Q=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils-shell_0.24_i386.udeb
-pwEinkl_MZ-UTCGstMeuTw=Debian:pool/main/d/debian-installer-utils/di-utils_0.24_i386.udeb
@@ -285 +231,0 @@
--petVBqhDd4WA8I4WyNfIg=Debian:pool/main/f/floppy-retriever/floppy-retriever_0.06_all.udeb
@@ -316,2 +261,0 @@
-UWargGCsYHB42icDg7w7yg=Debian:pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/g++_3.3-1_i386.deb
-GYRQq4_8hWE_GcxnyHNb-w=Debian:pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/g77_3.3-1_i386.deb
@@ -328 +271,0 @@
-dhZSO2yhDIcxLvkNpoeYUg=Debian:pool/main/g/gdm/gdm_2.4.1.3-2_i386.deb
@@ -337 +279,0 @@
-0fotR4SBbQ0PbHMf-5GI0g=Debian:pool/main/g/gimp1.2/gimp1.2_1.2.3-2.4_i386.deb
@@ -389,0 +332 @@
+xqON3M_p4xP_l0-pKGvWFg=Debian:pool/main/g/gphoto2/gphoto2_2.1.1-3_i386.deb
@@ -455,2 +395,0 @@
-jZ7FkKmiHAdU7ep7lJpLqg=Debian:pool/main/k/kdebase/kate_2.2.2-14_i386.deb
-Oi3Ap76gOEnG75fNLSDNog=Debian:pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase-doc_2.2.2-14_all.deb
@@ -460 +398,0 @@
-3BKXubtjW6EoSbilZeoJtg=Debian:pool/main/k/kdebase/kdm_2.2.2-14_i386.deb
@@ -482 +419,0 @@
-TP5x3msihOJA1WXLw9TX9A=Debian:pool/main/k/kdepim/kdepim-libs_2.2.2-5_i386.deb
@@ -611,0 +547 @@
+1Od9s3UGhobgwLdlRjUnWQ=Debian:pool/main/libc/libcdk/libcdk4_4.9.9-3_i386.deb
@@ -654,0 +591 @@
+_w82jUgGlEVMCeTMj4HXzw=Debian:pool/main/libm/libmailtools-perl/libmailtools-perl_1.58-1_all.deb
@@ -658 +594,0 @@
-z81fYaXZvlSe8xbfc2_VGg=Debian:pool/main/libm/libmpeg1/libmpeg1_1.3.1-2.1_i386.deb
@@ -659,0 +596,3 @@
+5Fw99REesszBZb7RI3WfNQ=Debian:pool/main/libn/libnet-perl/libnet-perl_1.12-1_all.deb
+0A4d0zSFbRsw3WANdPqstg=Debian:pool/main/libn/libnet-ph-perl/libnet-ph-perl_2.21-2_all.deb
+kusDm8F-JxAb3-7EKAk3aQ=Debian:pool/main/libn/libnet-snpp-perl/libnet-snpp-perl_1.11-2.1_all.deb
@@ -754 +692,0 @@
-lcbzCc5-9UBJL-kjbTYB1A=Debian:pool/main/n/net-retriever/net-retriever_0.17_i386.udeb
@@ -943 +880,0 @@
-6v5qFzrg7dgGyKVQ83x2hQ=Debian:pool/main/u/usb-discover/usb-discover_0.01_all.udeb
@@ -957 +893,0 @@
-M4lXJWMwg7K29p7qlLkjCg=Debian:pool/main/w/wget/wget_1.8.2-10_i386.deb

I don't get it. The debian-installer stuff is neatly all listed in the
tasks/debian-installer file -- and yet the above ones are missing.

I've ripped out kernel-source-* for testing purposes, removed the grossly
huge xserver-xfree86-dbg, syslinux, aspell-* packages, and fixed a few
obvious bugs (usually renamed or removed packages), and there really should
be space both for all these things on the CD.

The second CD is even more reshuffled, but it seems that has to do with
the change to prefer all main packages over contrib. I guess I can fix that,
but it should have no effect on the above problems...

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Re: sarge first i386 CD musings

2003-07-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 06:52:23PM +0200, joy wrote:
 I've ripped out kernel-source-* for testing purposes, removed the grossly
 huge xserver-xfree86-dbg, syslinux, aspell-* packages, and fixed a few
 obvious bugs (usually renamed or removed packages), and there really should
 be space both for all these things on the CD.

Oh, bleh,

CD 1 filled with 541058198 bytes ... (limit was 55500)
CD 2 filled with 637562572 bytes ... (limit was 639631360)
...

Serves me right for using stupid README file defaults like
SIZELIMIT1=55500 and not paying attention.

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Re: sarge first i386 CD musings

2003-07-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 06:52:23PM +0200, joy wrote:
 I don't get it. The debian-installer stuff is neatly all listed in the
 tasks/debian-installer file -- and yet the above ones are missing.

I guess I should mention that I didn't solve this. Any hints would be
welcome.

-- 
 2. That which causes joy or happiness.




Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Atterer
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:58:09PM +0100, John Winters wrote:
 I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing
 snapshots of Sarge.  Currently it appears that the only way one can
 download the official .jigdo files for unofficial Sarge CDs (!) is by
 means of http from gluck.debian.org.  This is inefficient, particularly
 if one wants to keep doing it.  Is there any way they could be made
 available by rsync?

IMHO, rsync is not more efficient for mirroring .jigdo/.template files than 
http/ftp, because all the data is gzipped. Some more mirrors for the images 
on gluck would still be nice, though.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Unofficial DVD .jigdo files, take 2

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Atterer
Now located at

  http://farbror.acc.umu.se/debian-cd-test/
  
They include non-US this time. Additionally, I tried all arches and src. 
However, it seems something went wrong, the template files are a bit too 
large. Additionally, some arches do not seem to have worked. Any clues 
welcome! :)

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: sarge first i386 CD musings

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Atterer
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 06:52:23PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
 I don't get it. The debian-installer stuff is neatly all listed in the
 tasks/debian-installer file -- and yet the above ones are missing.

Are you sure they did not end up in the image? It is conceivable that for
some reason, they just weren't picked up by jigdo-file, so they might be in
the image, but not listed in the .jigdo file.

(Mind you, jigdo-file /ought/ to have picked them up, just don't take the 
list in the .jigdo as authoritative.)

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: Debian CD contents

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Atterer
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 05:40:47PM +1000, Ronald Kuwawi wrote:
 Hello all, where [url if available] can I find the list of 
 each Debian 3.0 CD contents

Have a look at the appropriate .jigdo files with zless. (Or under Windows, 
rename the .jigdo into .txt.gz and then unpack the file with WinZip.)

Cheers,

  Richard

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