Re: Another about SID in ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/
care of them. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adopt a directory on our free software phone @work: +361 371 3536 server! http://www.fsn.hu/?f=brick cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another about SID in ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/
Santiago Vila wrote: There are a lot of people who use sid without those CDs, so your claim that without them we would have no users using sid and nobody would report bugs in sid is completely unfounded (not to say ridiculous). You are completely right. It's just another way which can help users to use Debian. But if you say users should not distribute Debian in a given form, in my reading you say they should not use it. Why is distributing a CD worse than distributing it on FTP/HTTP/whatever? Because some first time wannabe-linux-hacker thinks that he knows everything and doesn't take the time to read the Debian web pages about the whole release process? bug may be reproduced with the latest available version. If you are so deprived that you don't have internet access, it is much more difficult to upgrade to the latest version (unless you receive a sid DVD daily). I use Debian exactly on two machines. On my notebook and on the machine which creates the images. And I have no internet access at home (just a damn slow GPRS, on which even fetching the packages file takes a few minutes). This was the case 5-6 years ago when I started to use Debian at home, so nothing has changed. I started to build those images for myself and even these days I regurarly use them to update my home machine. This is the only way I can do that, so I build the CDs. If somebody else can benefit from them, I am happy. Installing/using SID can make pretty much harm anyways, it does not depend on those images. Why do you publish it at all? The sarge distribution is supposed to be in an always releaseable state, while sid is not. In sarge, dependencies are met, in sid, they are not. There is a hungarian proverb, I have already seen a crow on a pole. :) In sarge, there are not brown paper bag bugs of the kind which are fixed in several days. In sid, there may be, even if they are fixed in a day. OK, that's SID. If I make a big mistake in a package and fix it a day later, I don't want this bug to be propagated and distributed widely more than it is already by being in unstable for one day, so I can't be glad that people distribute unstable CDs containing the buggy package which I fixed a day later. I see. That could make sense. To me, the ten days delay which happens for packages in unstable to enter testing is exactly the kind of difference which makes testing CDs to be generally acceptable and unstable CDs generally not acceptable. OK. What should I say? There were nearly 5000 SID and more than 6 Sarge image downloads last week from ftp.fsn.hu. I think it helps Debian to spread. If the packages in SID are low quality then blame the developers, not the people who spend money and time to distribute them. :) -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another about SID in ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/
Santiago Vila wrote: You say people should not use SID at all. Excuse me, where in earth I've said such thing? Maybe it's just me who thinks that those images help a lot of people to have an up to date Debian system at home, so if you are against it, in my interpretation you say users should not use SID. I've just said that sid CDs/DVDs should not be distributed, as the Debian FAQ says. I'm just asking for a little bit of respect for a work which is not yet finished. I don't see too much difference between Sarge and SID in this topic. For a long amount of time Debian refused to release unstable images, because of the things you say above. Now there are official Sarge CDs. Sarge is also an ongoing project which is called unstable. I'm fed up of hearing about people trying to install Debian from sid CDs and asking about it on the lists. It could be that you are helping some people, but I have no doubt that you are harming some users at the same time. Tell them what SID is. :) -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another about SID in ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/
Santiago Vila wrote: I still have some hope that those who produce and distribute sid CDs reconsider about it and stop doing so. Why? Debian contains old software, everybody knows. The release cycle is also different from the other distributions (does not depend on time, but on so called readyness), so people who love Debian use SID on their desktops. And -believe it or not- there are people who don't have high speed Internet access in their homes, and even ones, who don't have Internet at all! Those people grab the CDs/DVDs somewhere, and apt-get upgrade from it. You say people should not use SID at all. If nobody uses SID, who will report bugs to you? -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About SID in ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/
Alex wrote: The jigdo and template files of CD 9 on SID is no good, the .jigdo file is 566 bytes lenght and the .template file is 623 MB, how it is possible ??? I would like to know too. Sometimes it just happens. Am I the only one with this? debian-cd from CVS and DOJIGDO=1 or 2 -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid CDs
David Roberts wrote: The Sid snapshot images seem to no longer reside on the usual servers (like ftp.fsn.hu). Have they been moved or are they no longer being produced? We've had a hiccup, so all the images were deleted. We are currently in the phase of getting back to the file servers. (ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial) -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge CD images: kindly elaborate?
Richard Atterer wrote: Um - trying the old images may not work. You can try Attila Nagy's unofficial images at ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge/, but note that they're probably not suitable for installation, just as a package source. If you need to install Debian using CDs, try downloading the new beta installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and see whether it works together with the fsn.hu images. You can easily try. Get your favourite PC emulator which can use an iso file as a virtual CDROM, mount ftp.fsn.hu via SMB and try to boot from the iso. Last time I tried (via a 384k ADSL), it worked. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 371 3536 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Testing CD/DVD jigdo files
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: According to http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/, official testing images can be found at: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/ So...how am I supposed to sync to the stuff on gluck (please don't say wget, I like rsync! :-), or is there a better place to grab these files? It is a different set, but if you think, you can give it a try. rsync://ftp.fsn.hu/cdimages/debian-unofficial/sarge/ or rsync://ftp.fsn.hu/cdimages/debian-unofficial/sarge-dvd/ Please be aware, that it is possible that the images are not 100% correct. If you have good bandwidth to the Internet, you can mount them and try the images for example in VMWare. See ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/README.samba for details. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Typo in jigdo files for unofficial testing
Joseph Fahey wrote: When running jigdo-lite to get the unofficial testing template, there seems to be a problem with the URL in the .jigdo files at that is, with a slash between jigdo and sarge. Corrected, thank you. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Typo in jigdo files for unofficial testing
Joseph Fahey wrote: When running jigdo-lite to get the unofficial testing template, there seems to be a problem with the URL in the .jigdo files at that is, with a slash between jigdo and sarge. Corrected, thank you. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Jigdo template size problem
George Danchev wrote: This is true, but I also confirm that I saw 600-700megs .template files at: ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge/jigdo/ ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/ It was around 16 ... 18 December 2003. now They are re-generated and available for x86 arch only. I have no idea what could break the .template file in a such way. It just happens sometimes. I don't know why, I can only think about disk full cases which sadfully happens often, but currently I don't have money for a bigger disk. Maybe there will be one under the tree :) BTW, the other architectures expected to come back during the next week. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jigdo template size problem
George Danchev wrote: This is true, but I also confirm that I saw 600-700megs .template files at: ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge/jigdo/ ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/ It was around 16 ... 18 December 2003. now They are re-generated and available for x86 arch only. I have no idea what could break the .template file in a such way. It just happens sometimes. I don't know why, I can only think about disk full cases which sadfully happens often, but currently I don't have money for a bigger disk. Maybe there will be one under the tree :) BTW, the other architectures expected to come back during the next week. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: no .jigdo-File found in jigdo-directory
der kleine Software-Laden wrote: I wanted to download the DVD-images of unstable and testing. But I couldn't find any .jigdo-files in these directories: ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid-dvd/jigdo/ ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge-dvd/jigdo/ What do I have to do to get the images? Are you sure that your FTP client works well? The files are there. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: sarge i386 dvd image with jigdo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to get a dvd image of sarge-i386 for the last few days. I used the latest jigdo file from ftp.fsn.hu (21.September 2003), and am now at the point of getting 'file not found' errors. Obviously the jigdo file is too old. The machine generates the i386 stuff on sunday, but there were some problems during the weekend, so the process went wrong. The new ones are ready, I am currently uploading them to ftp.fsn.hu, so you should check back some hours later. Currently the file seems to have dissapeared, nore are there any replacements. On http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ it says that these files are regenerated weekly! Obviously there is a problem somewhere along the line. Erm, could you please wrap your lines? Im quite desperate to get a working dvd sarge-i386 image and would be grateful if anybody could point me to a current dvd *.jigdo file for sarge-i386, or point out some alternatives. (no I do not feel like downloading 2 5Gb images - I would prefer using jigdo) You will find them soon at the previous place. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge i386 dvd image with jigdo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to get a dvd image of sarge-i386 for the last few days. I used the latest jigdo file from ftp.fsn.hu (21.September 2003), and am now at the point of getting 'file not found' errors. Obviously the jigdo file is too old. The machine generates the i386 stuff on sunday, but there were some problems during the weekend, so the process went wrong. The new ones are ready, I am currently uploading them to ftp.fsn.hu, so you should check back some hours later. Currently the file seems to have dissapeared, nore are there any replacements. On http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ it says that these files are regenerated weekly! Obviously there is a problem somewhere along the line. Erm, could you please wrap your lines? Im quite desperate to get a working dvd sarge-i386 image and would be grateful if anybody could point me to a current dvd *.jigdo file for sarge-i386, or point out some alternatives. (no I do not feel like downloading 2 5Gb images - I would prefer using jigdo) You will find them soon at the previous place. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Wrong md5 checksum of README.html
Jens Seidel wrote: I recently downloaded Sid DVD images using jigdo and noticed that the md5 checksum of README.html is wrong. All other files are OK. Tricky. Maybe that file contains an activeX trojan, for those people who try to see the contents of the CD under Windows :) -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong md5 checksum of README.html
Jens Seidel wrote: I recently downloaded Sid DVD images using jigdo and noticed that the md5 checksum of README.html is wrong. All other files are OK. Tricky. Maybe that file contains an activeX trojan, for those people who try to see the contents of the CD under Windows :) -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Hi tried to download Sarge- DVD 1 and have over 500 files missing
Greg Madden wrote: Timing is important. Dowload a jigdo file template that is current as posible,created within 1 to 2 days of of the time you try the build. Any older and the mirrors start getting more and more new packages. That's why we have a debian-superseded directory, where jigdo can find the deleted files. Each jigdo file we distribute have the following line: MD5Sum=ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/debian-superseded/ Which means if jigdo-file can't find the given MD5 checksum in any of the Parts sections it will try to download it from ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/debian-superseded/ which holds the deleted files for 14 days. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi tried to download Sarge- DVD 1 and have over 500 files missing
David Steinberg wrote: the Sarge-DVD1 jigdo file has over 500 missing files. Could you tell me when a new jigdo-file will be created ? This week. Until that you can download the ISO if you need that badly. You could also use rsync to repair the broken file if you already have one. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Josip Rodin wrote: For Debian mirrors, we have practically no use in features like compression, RCS, deltas and whatever else. To eliminate the initial delay in rsyncing, now that would be a useful thing. Did you try that, is that improved with cvsup? No, I didn't try it with Debian mirrors, but I did with FreeBSD. It contains much more files than Debian, because of the CVS repositories checked out. It starts the synchronization much earlier than rsync and which is even better, the memory requirement is very low (maximum 4-6 MBs). I guess only the latter worth the change. We had many rsync mirrors and our machine ran out of memory very soon. Just imagine a mirror of four-five bigger projects (like NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and Debian) and voila, you need minimum 1 GBs of RAM just for the rsync in memory file list. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: Oh, well. There exists a debian package. So for some of our mirrors it shouldn't be much of a problem. But I guess that rsync will be the standard way for some more years. I didn't even know that cvsup exists in Debian. That's great. BTW, cvsup uses rsync for transferring binary files. The advantage is that it uses the rsync method only for standalone files, not for building the file list, so it has all advantages of rsync without its disadvantages. Thanks for the information! -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge first i386 CD musings
Rafael Poveda ..:: [ RaveN ] ::.. wrote: I think it's Debian's policy. Debian is for everybody. It's open. It's free. And everybody can read a 650 MB CD (It doesn't mind if they have a last-generation DVD or a 2x CD-ROM). And you can write it in a 700MB CD-R (or bigger). 6 o 7 cd-pack? It doesn't really mind (i think). Agreed. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
John Winters wrote: Ah good. I'm glad they've come down again. I moved away from using the files from fsn.hu because a) they got so big and b) they couldn't be used to create .isos - they referenced files which weren't available on any mirror, not even fsn.hu. Perhaps something had gone wrong with the creation process there. (This was back in mid-April). I don't really know what happened, because I did not even touch the scripts. BTW, I try to offer more than only the i386 stuff, so now there are CDs and DVDs for all architectures in sarge and sid in jigdo format and ISOs for i386 CDs and DVDs. I hope somebody can benefit from these. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
The jigdo directories went up to 10+ gigs and we had to stop mirroring for
a while (the debian main archive is kind of more important to us). Is this
problem fixed now?
find . -name jigdo -exec du -hs {} \;
874M./sarge/jigdo
484M./sarge-dvd/jigdo
872M./sid/jigdo
375M./sid-dvd/jigdo
I guess, yes.
Can the d-i images be found by jigdo or are they still downloaded from
~tfheen somewhere?
I use a small script which tries to download the debian-installer images
from people.debian.org/~tfheen and if they cannot be found there, the
debian-cd script uses the previously downloaded ones.
Last time I checked, they were dated at 13 july, with the netboot image
being even older.
tfheen@ wrote that he is working on the issue, so I assume it will be
corrected when his time allows. (hopefully in the near future)
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Re: sarge first i386 CD musings
Josip Rodin wrote: Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if the image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll do it again. Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes writable CD (650 MB) even in CD-RW version. The default is now 700 MB/80 min. with strange capacities emerging (like the 1 GB CD-R, I don't know how well can one store data on them, also I wouldn't place my life on a CD which were written at 52X speed, but that's another story). So why should a CD be under 650 MB these days? -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at it. It still doesn't change the fact that rsync is the well-known tool by mirror admins though. The only problem is that cvsup is written in Modula-3, so it's not quite in perl or C :) http://www.cvsup.org/ -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge first i386 CD musings
Josip Rodin wrote: I bought some 650 MB CD-RWs a few months back, FWIW. I guess there's not much reason to scramble with those extra 50 MB, you can hardly save one in the set by making them all 700 MB. It seems that you are wrong :) -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 674594816 Jul 20 13:17 sid-i386-1.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 673316864 Jul 20 13:45 sid-i386-10.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 346030080 Jul 20 14:05 sid-i386-11.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 680656896 Jul 20 14:25 sid-i386-2.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 679084032 Jul 20 14:49 sid-i386-3.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 677314560 Jul 20 15:12 sid-i386-4.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 670892032 Jul 20 15:32 sid-i386-5.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 620756992 Jul 20 15:54 sid-i386-6.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 671547392 Jul 20 16:13 sid-i386-7.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 672006144 Jul 20 16:34 sid-i386-8.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 670203904 Jul 20 16:55 sid-i386-9.iso 10*50 MBs=500 MBs So if these ISOs were 700 MBs, the last one could be saved. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge first i386 CD musings
Blars Blarson wrote: In the US (or at least southern california) 650 MB cd-r's are about half the price and more widly available than 700 MB ones. (About Interesting. I thought if we (in Hungary) can buy only 700 MB CD-Rs then the rest of the world now uses at least DVDs :) But selling only 700 MB CD-Rs and RWs makes sense here, because Artisjus (http://www.artisjus.hu/en/, an association for protecting the authors, at least in their mind) throw a tax on each recordable medium, like CD-Rs, CD-RWs, DATs, etc, because they *assume* that every piece of recordable medium will contain illegal stuff, so they get a fraction from its price, depending on its capacity (more capacity means more money). So I have to pay extra money to this association, because they now that I will burn illegal audio to my CD-R. Aren't such things exists in the other regions of the world? Only we are so stupid that they can get this done? Not all CD readers/players can handle disks larger than 650 MB. (And some cd-r's have more problems than others, like the black ones.) Yes, there are some older ones. And also there are some older motherboards which won't boot your Debian CDs. True PC compatibility :) While for Knoppix I think it makes sence to use 700 MB cd's, I don't think it does for Debian. (Going from 7 CDs to 6?) Only DVDs make sense. Who will carry a 10 CDs collection of Sarge just to have the smallest shell script collection in .deb format which he will never use? I burnt a lot of Debian CDs, but most people wants only the first 3-4 of them. Or just the first to get things done. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Richard Atterer wrote: The changes from week to week can only be small and it would make sense to rsync the differences and re-build the files rather than re-download what can be a very big file. (Some of the later ones from fsn.hu have been 90M for just one (gzipped) .template file.) I wonder why they're getting so big - if all files inside an .iso are found by jigdo-file, the resulting .template file should be 5MB. :-/ The largest ones at ftp.fsn.hu are: 35M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-ia64-1.template 35M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-mips-1.template 35M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-mipsel-1.template 35M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-s390-1.template 35M./sid-dvd/jigdo/sid-i386-1.template 38M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-arm-1.template 38M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-m68k-1.template 38M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-powerpc-1.template 38M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-sparc-1.template 39M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-alpha-1.template 47M./sarge-dvd/jigdo/sarge-i386-1.template Which I guess makes sense, because the following files are left out from the .jigdos: egrep -v '/Contents|/Packages|/README|INDEX$|/Maintainers|/Release$|/debian-ke yring\.tar\.gz$|/ls-lR|//doc/[^/]+/?[^/]*\.(txt|html)$' \ -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
John Winters wrote: Ah good. I'm glad they've come down again. I moved away from using the files from fsn.hu because a) they got so big and b) they couldn't be used to create .isos - they referenced files which weren't available on any mirror, not even fsn.hu. Perhaps something had gone wrong with the creation process there. (This was back in mid-April). I don't really know what happened, because I did not even touch the scripts. BTW, I try to offer more than only the i386 stuff, so now there are CDs and DVDs for all architectures in sarge and sid in jigdo format and ISOs for i386 CDs and DVDs. I hope somebody can benefit from these. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
The jigdo directories went up to 10+ gigs and we had to stop mirroring for
a while (the debian main archive is kind of more important to us). Is this
problem fixed now?
find . -name jigdo -exec du -hs {} \;
874M./sarge/jigdo
484M./sarge-dvd/jigdo
872M./sid/jigdo
375M./sid-dvd/jigdo
I guess, yes.
Can the d-i images be found by jigdo or are they still downloaded from
~tfheen somewhere?
I use a small script which tries to download the debian-installer images
from people.debian.org/~tfheen and if they cannot be found there, the
debian-cd script uses the previously downloaded ones.
Last time I checked, they were dated at 13 july, with the netboot image
being even older.
tfheen@ wrote that he is working on the issue, so I assume it will be
corrected when his time allows. (hopefully in the near future)
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Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: And mirrors would like to use rsync even if the rsync algorithm doesn't matter. It is a convenient and well-known tool for mirroring a directory structure, including all the metadata and stuff. If we wouldn't talk about Linux I would suggest forget rsync. It's very bad in handling many thousands of files, both on the client and the server side. We switched to cvsup where we could (for example FreeBSD mirror). It's a lot more efficient. A full FreeBSD mirror can be done in about 4 MBs of memory (about 600-800,000 files as far as I can remember). And also it is much faster in the start of the process. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: sarge first i386 CD musings
Josip Rodin wrote: Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if the image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll do it again. Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes writable CD (650 MB) even in CD-RW version. The default is now 700 MB/80 min. with strange capacities emerging (like the 1 GB CD-R, I don't know how well can one store data on them, also I wouldn't place my life on a CD which were written at 52X speed, but that's another story). So why should a CD be under 650 MB these days? -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Accessibility of official jigdo files for Sarge
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at it. It still doesn't change the fact that rsync is the well-known tool by mirror admins though. The only problem is that cvsup is written in Modula-3, so it's not quite in perl or C :) http://www.cvsup.org/ -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: sarge first i386 CD musings
Josip Rodin wrote: I bought some 650 MB CD-RWs a few months back, FWIW. I guess there's not much reason to scramble with those extra 50 MB, you can hardly save one in the set by making them all 700 MB. It seems that you are wrong :) -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 674594816 Jul 20 13:17 sid-i386-1.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 673316864 Jul 20 13:45 sid-i386-10.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 346030080 Jul 20 14:05 sid-i386-11.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 680656896 Jul 20 14:25 sid-i386-2.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 679084032 Jul 20 14:49 sid-i386-3.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 677314560 Jul 20 15:12 sid-i386-4.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 670892032 Jul 20 15:32 sid-i386-5.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 620756992 Jul 20 15:54 sid-i386-6.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 671547392 Jul 20 16:13 sid-i386-7.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 672006144 Jul 20 16:34 sid-i386-8.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 670203904 Jul 20 16:55 sid-i386-9.iso 10*50 MBs=500 MBs So if these ISOs were 700 MBs, the last one could be saved. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: sarge first i386 CD musings
Blars Blarson wrote: In the US (or at least southern california) 650 MB cd-r's are about half the price and more widly available than 700 MB ones. (About Interesting. I thought if we (in Hungary) can buy only 700 MB CD-Rs then the rest of the world now uses at least DVDs :) But selling only 700 MB CD-Rs and RWs makes sense here, because Artisjus (http://www.artisjus.hu/en/, an association for protecting the authors, at least in their mind) throw a tax on each recordable medium, like CD-Rs, CD-RWs, DATs, etc, because they *assume* that every piece of recordable medium will contain illegal stuff, so they get a fraction from its price, depending on its capacity (more capacity means more money). So I have to pay extra money to this association, because they now that I will burn illegal audio to my CD-R. Aren't such things exists in the other regions of the world? Only we are so stupid that they can get this done? Not all CD readers/players can handle disks larger than 650 MB. (And some cd-r's have more problems than others, like the black ones.) Yes, there are some older ones. And also there are some older motherboards which won't boot your Debian CDs. True PC compatibility :) While for Knoppix I think it makes sence to use 700 MB cd's, I don't think it does for Debian. (Going from 7 CDs to 6?) Only DVDs make sense. Who will carry a 10 CDs collection of Sarge just to have the smallest shell script collection in .deb format which he will never use? I burnt a lot of Debian CDs, but most people wants only the first 3-4 of them. Or just the first to get things done. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: linux i386 dvd sid jigdo ?
erasmo perez wrote: in ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid-dvd/jigdo/ i cant find the link to a sid (for linux kernel) to architecture i386 what has happened ? or is it contained under another label ? The debian-cd script for i386 tries to download the experimental debian-installer images from http://people.debian.org/~tfheen/d-i/images/daily/ where there were some name changes which made the saturday build failed. I started the build manually today, but the machine hasn't got too much power, so it will take some time to build all the i386 stuff... -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux i386 dvd sid jigdo ?
erasmo perez wrote: in ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid-dvd/jigdo/ i cant find the link to a sid (for linux kernel) to architecture i386 what has happened ? or is it contained under another label ? The debian-cd script for i386 tries to download the experimental debian-installer images from http://people.debian.org/~tfheen/d-i/images/daily/ where there were some name changes which made the saturday build failed. I started the build manually today, but the machine hasn't got too much power, so it will take some time to build all the i386 stuff... -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: jigdo - SID i386
Kai Nehm wrote: in this directory the sid-i386-9.jigdo file is 1kb of size and nothing is downloaded from the debian-archive. Is this quite normal or is it a fault? Disk full. I started to move some stuff... -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo - SID i386
Kai Nehm wrote: in this directory the sid-i386-9.jigdo file is 1kb of size and nothing is downloaded from the debian-archive. Is this quite normal or is it a fault? Disk full. I started to move some stuff... -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: jigdo files for sid-dvd
Greg Madden wrote: Is it possible ( desirable) to us a date here ? The newer images will contain the date string (20030603 for example). -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo files for sid-dvd
Greg Madden wrote: Is it possible ( desirable) to us a date here ? The newer images will contain the date string (20030603 for example). -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: jigdo files for sid-dvd
Jens Seidel wrote: This seems to be wrong. Jigdo-lite uses wget to download files and these files are generally small. I don't know what program is used to create the large image file and indeed it's possible that this fails in Woody, but I'm not sure. I make them on Debian Sarge. PS: The first dvd jigdo file contains a wrong URL (zless sid-i386-1.jigdo) Template=http://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/sid-i386-1.template Please note that sid-dvd should be used instead of sid. I will correct them, thanks. ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux N/A Sid - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary-1 CD' What does N/A stand for? Not Available. I can't use any numbers here, because SID won't be released. There were two options for the version number: blank and NA. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo files for sid-dvd
Jens Seidel wrote: This seems to be wrong. Jigdo-lite uses wget to download files and these files are generally small. I don't know what program is used to create the large image file and indeed it's possible that this fails in Woody, but I'm not sure. I make them on Debian Sarge. PS: The first dvd jigdo file contains a wrong URL (zless sid-i386-1.jigdo) Template=http://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/sid-i386-1.template Please note that sid-dvd should be used instead of sid. I will correct them, thanks. ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux N/A Sid - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary-1 CD' What does N/A stand for? Not Available. I can't use any numbers here, because SID won't be released. There were two options for the version number: blank and NA. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: dvd-isos
PSZTOR Gyrgy wrote: I use ext3 on my home (woody) machine (it was originally ext2), the 4GB woody iso through a loopback device works well to my fast apt-get install things :-) So the problem is somewhere else... I see the not too distant future, when HDVD-RW (High Density/Holographic Digital Versatile Disc) will be common so we can download the latest Debian Molly which will actually fit onto 2 HDVD-RW discs! (XFree86-XP SP3 included with dynamic voxel-chain rotation support) The sad thing will be that in Linux/i386 the ext4 will be only 48 bit clean, which means that the first disc gets truncated at 256 TBs :) (of course ext5 will fix this problem and won't require a 128 bit CPU) -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo files for sid-dvd
Jens Seidel wrote: A few days ago (May 24--May 25) I tried to download the sid-dvd images from ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid-dvd/ but failed. I'm sure that's because of a new file upload. I read ../NEWS, to ensure this cannot happen and finished the download sunday morning at 6am (GMT+02). As previously stated, my machine broke, so I had to find (actually buy) another one. There were many problems after that (bad Linux kernels, etc), so the production of these images could be only started this week. Currently I am trying to figure out how much time does a full build need. I was able to download sid-i386-1.iso and to mount it via loopback. I compared the checksum: $ md5sum -c md5sum.txt and got ... attempt to access beyond end of device 07:00 rw=0, want=2097152, limit=2097151 attempt to access beyond end of device 07:00 rw=0, want=2097154, limit=2097151 ... Maybe you are running a Linux kernel which is unable to handle bigger than 2/4 GB files... All files except the first 4179 (of 8xxx) in md5sum.txt are unreadable! I checked the image using isovfy, isoinfo, ... but it seems to be OK. Any ideas how to fix this? Upgrade. I want to use jigdo, but there are no files in jigdo/. Where can I get these files? They will eventually get out, but this won't change your behaviour of your OS... Another question: Why are there two small images instead of a large one? DVD's support up to 4.37GB, is the 2GB limit for older DVD-RAM media? The files are 4687953920 and 1139769344 bytes in size. 4.36 and 1.06 GBs. If your downloaded file takes only 2 GBs then see the above, upgrade :) Hint: The absolut path in sid-dvd/MD5SUMS (/home/debiancd/out/sid-dvd/) should be replaced by a local one, so that there's no need to edit this file. Thanks for noticing this, I will fix them. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd-isos
Kadlecsik Jozsi wrote: I will work on it. Thanks. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd-isos
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: Maybe you are running a Linux kernel which is unable to handle bigger than 2/4 GB files... Heh, good place to put in a reminder to the kfki.hu guys that perhaps there is such an issue there too. Thanks for the notice. BTW, I am completely confused. Aren't modern Linux kernels capable of handling more than 32 bits of file lengths? Or is this a userland problem? -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd-isos
Kadlecsik Jozsi wrote: I will work on it. Thanks. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: dvd-isos
Mattias Wadenstein wrote: Maybe you are running a Linux kernel which is unable to handle bigger than 2/4 GB files... Heh, good place to put in a reminder to the kfki.hu guys that perhaps there is such an issue there too. Thanks for the notice. BTW, I am completely confused. Aren't modern Linux kernels capable of handling more than 32 bits of file lengths? Or is this a userland problem? -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: dvd-isos
PSZTOR Gyrgy wrote: I use ext3 on my home (woody) machine (it was originally ext2), the 4GB woody iso through a loopback device works well to my fast apt-get install things :-) So the problem is somewhere else... I see the not too distant future, when HDVD-RW (High Density/Holographic Digital Versatile Disc) will be common so we can download the latest Debian Molly which will actually fit onto 2 HDVD-RW discs! (XFree86-XP SP3 included with dynamic voxel-chain rotation support) The sad thing will be that in Linux/i386 the ext4 will be only 48 bit clean, which means that the first disc gets truncated at 256 TBs :) (of course ext5 will fix this problem and won't require a 128 bit CPU) -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Up-to-date images of Sarge and Sid are where?
David S. Roberts wrote: Just wondering, since up-to-date images of Sarge and Sid are no longer available at ftp.fsn.hu, where are they available? What is the story with fsn.hu? Are they not making them any more? Any way I can help? The problem here is that my machine, on which the CDs were made crashed, then after I repaired it, I had to swap that with a notebook, on which I can't make the CD images regurarly. Last week I could finally get a new machine online, but new problems arose, it seems that the Linux kernel has some problems with my Intel PRO/100 card, because it corrupts data during transfer over the wire when used with NFS. Currently, I am at that point where I can generate the images again, so the machine is working on them right now. Expect normal operation for this weekend. BTW, AFAIK, there are sarge jigdos on gluck.debian.org. -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @work: +361 210 1415/127 ISOs: http://www.fsn.hu/?f=downloadcell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: what servers to use sarge dvd jigdo files?
Hello, The last jigdo update on ftp://fsu.hu was on 3/8/03. This may still be to 'old' to build though. The readme suggests that these images are auto-gernerated weekly, something must have changed for this weeks edition. Weak hardware. I hope I can fix these issues in about a month.. --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758
Re: Basic Sarge CDs available for testing
Hello, Hey, it's coming ... haven't you read what I said here and in debian-boot ? The debian-cd code will be updated this evening, then I expect to test the CD generation this WE and we'll put online new bootable images at the beginning of next week hopefully. So how'd it go? If it didn't, what's it waiting on? I have jigdo files and weekly generated ISOs for IA-32 at ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge/ It boots, starts the debian-installer, but I could not go further because the lack of resources (mostly time). --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unofficial DVD jigdo
Hello, There are three jigdo images on ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/. What are the contents of these images ? Does Sarge, i386 packages only, fit on one 4.7gb dvd-r? Those ISOs are quite small, due to some people's request. --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by hertzog
Hello, It's fixed. And tasks/task-essential-sarge too. Thanks for the report. Thanks for fixing it... boot-i386 will need more changes soon, I'm waiting that Joey Hess provides me kernel and initrd images to use. Yep. Is this why the currently generated images won't boot? (the loader could not find any kernel images to boot) --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by hertzog
Hello, Yes. The CD 2,3,4 should already boot however because they're directly using the boot image but for CD1 (isolinux) I need to have kernel and initrd images separately. Thanks, I will try it. --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-cd by hertzog
Hello, Duh. I wonder what's wrong. Can you give me some more information ? At what moment does it fail ? How ? Is there a message or something ? Do you have the isolinux prompt or not ? I quickly did the images and booted them with VMWare. For the first image it did not boot (could not find the image, don't remember the name exactly :-O), the fourth booted but I couldn't get further than the debian-installer text-menu (detect CD, set up d-i, shell). Does it work with the old isolinux.bin of woody ? I really wonder what I've done wrong... Don't know, and until monday I will have no chance to get to that machine... I also added the -l switch to the mkisofs call. Does it work without that switch ? I will try. --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-cd by hertzog
Hello, * Yet another stupid mistake (s/done/fi/). BTW, I would recommend shutting wget off, because when somebody runs this stuff from cron its output it will be very ugly... --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-cd by hertzog
Hello, Agreed. It's also awful when run with script. I added the -quiet option to wget's command line. Thanks. BTW, the first CD still does not boot for me, I think some more hacking is needed. (it is also possible that I did something bad) --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by hertzog
Hello, added: Debian_sarge base-sarge debian-installer exclude-sarge popularity-contest-sarge task-essential-sarge task-full-sarge task.list unexclude-CD2-sarge task-essential-sarge: /* Essential task packages * * Generated with: grep-dctrl -s Essential -n -e '.*' /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc | sed -e 's/ *//' | grep -v ^$ | sort | uniq ^^^ * If the list is too big for the first CD, then we'll have to sort it * better, but hopefully this will never be needed since the goal of that * file is to have the more important packages of each task. * * Last updated: $Date: 2002/10/10 12:56:48 $ */ Could you please correct it? --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by hertzog
Hello, Another one: tools/boot/sarge/boot-i386: if [ $NN = 1 ]; the (sic!) Or is it my broken CVS client? :) Thanks, --[ Free Software ISOs - http://www.fsn.hu/?f=download ]-- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files missing for CD#1, sid, ftp.fsn.hu
Hello, Downloading CD 2,3,4 worked well (5,6,7 are on their way), but CD 1 was missing 12 files (strange URL's, like /var/apt/cache - seems the jigdo file from ftp.fsn.hu is broken). Ooops. Sorry. The next update will be OK (tomorrow). [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files missing for CD#1, sid, ftp.fsn.hu
Hello, I'm looking forward to retry tomorrow, but nevertheless and just to understand jigdo better (and yes, also I'm somewhat impatient ;): what would be the best way for me to fix this actually by hand? You can delete those lines, but I'm not sure how this affects the image creation because of the template file. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Files missing for CD#1, sid, ftp.fsn.hu
Hello, The doc stated downloading missing packages by hand is the solution, but does not tell how to add these to the ISO. Or do I miss something? Yes. My Debian mirror was messed up by some other program, which caused unintentionally appeared files. Those aren't needed for correct operation. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-CD mirror on LEO
Hello, jigdo is already part of the ports collection. ^^^ not yet... of it there; linux-jigdo (ports/40834) uses BSD's Linux compatibility mode, whereas jigdo (PR 40954) is a bit nicer, it compiles the program under FreeBSD. And waits for commit... [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-CD mirror on LEO
Hello, (Our host system is FreeBSD, so maybe I need to put some porting work into jigdo). No, you won't, jigdo runs perfectly on -STABLE. At least for me. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No CD image for 3.0?
Hello, cdimage.debian.org doesn't seem to have any images for Debian 3.0. Is there something wrong? Yes. The communication between Debian people ;-) They are at cdimage.debian.org::debian-jigdo/3.0_r0/jigdo/ And about jigdo: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ But basically, you are right. There are no Debian 3.0 CD images on cdimage.debian.org (or at least on its public area). That's why it has 25 days of uptime, according to Phil. :) [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unstable CDs
Hello, Huh? The woody boot-floppies will do an even worse job installing sid than sarge. I'm not seeing why this is a show stopper? I did not look onto that machine (which produces the CDs) for about a month, but before that boot-floppies worked very well in case of SID. Now I get a lot of errors (like from modconf, it has something wrong with /dev/tty). Maybe it is the environment, which does the build (yesterday I did a quick test with the ver. 23 boot floppies (around July 18) and it has the same problem (tty)). [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 3.0 released. Jigdo files available.
Hello, This is the first time in, er, probably all the releases since open has existed, when I can get on the machine after a release, and not really notice a serious difference from a normal day --- pretty astounding. Switch to another kernel ;-) Good job Richard. Well done :-) Yep. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 3.0 released. Jigdo files available.
Hello, Yeah, then you have the whole weekend to get the stuff and set it up before most people wake up to the news. Including me (I'm not in the vicinity of computers on the weekend). :) Yes, if you don't know how to use jigdo, you won't be able to get isos from the master sites (at least not yet for a while). This requires manual intervention, that's my only problem. The isos are available on rsync-debcd.acc.umu.se though, but routing from there to your site is rather bad. It seems that not the routing, but something else. I can't connect to that machine, using rsync. (the port is open, but I don't get anything back) ftp.acc.umu.se works fine. I am not aware of any other mirror with them online. The case is trivial :) The two behaviours I've seen so far: - they just don't care and are waiting for updates from cdimage.debian.org, where they've used to mirror from - they did a search and found jigdo, but don't know what is that (they are now learning :) - they already got the files with some manual magic (jigdo, download from another site, etc) This release method saves lot of internet pipes from being saturated. :) [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo fails on Woody DVD
Hello, One possible reason is that it took you longer than 4 days to download all the data - IIRC files in the superseded directory get deleted after that amount of time. Actually, it is 14 days... I have of course tried to continue several times with different mirrors, but this has no effect. The documentation says my last resort is to rsync the image, but I do not believe the DVD image is available for rsync anywhere. Did you try to use a newer .jigdo file? What's the date of yours? [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian CD Jigdo files at ftp.fsn.hu
Hello, Hi, the Debian unofficial jigdo files that should be at: ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody/jigdo/ ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/ seem to be missing/badly broken. Just thought I'd mention in case nobody had noticed. Just see the archive of this list. In case you don't read the list itself. :) [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Woody CD images via jigdo on ftp.hsn.hu
Hello, There seems to be something wrong with the jigdo file woody-i386-1.iso.jigdo for Woody, CD 1, on ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody/jigdo/ jigdo-lite always returns a template checksum mismatch error after downloading the .template. The .jigdo and the .template file do have different timestamps, maybe that's the problem? I'm using jigdo v0.6.6 (newest) on SuSE 7.1. My CD creator machine has been crashed last week and since I could not find replacement. ftp.fsn.hu catched up parts of the changes, so this way the files are out of sync. Until I can get a new machine to produce the CDs (may happen later this day) I disabled the access to these files. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wrong permissions on jigdo images from ftp.fsn.hu
Hello, I tried to download the images with jigdo-lite, but get the message this files wouldn't exist. When looking with ftp for these files, I saw that they have permission -rw---. I think this is the problem. Is that correct? Yes. It is, because of the problems, stated before (see the archive of this list). Please note that the files are from another build, so it isn't too wise to use them together. Is that problem known? See above. I figured out how to solve the problem on my machine, so I am currently remirroring the Debian tree in the hope that I can offer these files again tomorrow. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: bug testing bf24, from woody CD install of May 14 2002]
Hello, It is clearly a boot floppy bug, so it has to be fixed by the BF team. File a bug report from this. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Becoming a Debian CD Vendor
Hello, It is not possible - There are no official Debian CD vendors ;-) Is this 100% sure? I've heard of a boxed Debian product... If there is such a stuff, there is an official Debian CD vendor. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
heads up for fsn debian-unofficial mirrors
Hello, After the 150th message with the subject how can I burn a .raw file and/or with a message body of damn, I tried to write those .raw files to CD-R under Windows and first I had to answer some silly questions about sector size and other stuff, then I got a totally messed up CD I decided to forget those stupid .raw endings. Not because they are misleading, but because people damage CDs with those Windows boxes and I don't want them to pay extra bucks for new CD-Rs, because of the wrong format. So I send this message as a heads up for the mirrors, who use rsync (others simply don't have to care about this, because they already transfers a big amount of data each week :) to rename all the files in woody and sid directories from *.raw* to *.iso*. Please issue a for i in *.raw*; do mv $i `echo $i | sed s/raw/iso/g`; done command in those directories (or something like this, which do you prefer and can use under your shell :). And also a sed s/raw/iso/g md5sums md5sums.new mv md5sums.new \ md5sums to have the md5sums files reflect the change. I've already done that. If you don't make these changes, you will transfer 9.3 GBs of the same data, you have already on disk. Thanks, [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heads up for fsn debian-unofficial mirrors
Hello, [...] receiving file list ... done deleting woody/woody-i386-8.raw.list deleting woody/woody-i386-8.raw [...] Ooops, sorry. BTW, the rsync switch --delete-after delete after transferring, not before is quite useful, if you have enough free space. I think it is a good change, but I would have appriciated knowing about it a bit earlier. Sorry, I planned to send that message yesterday, but had to go earlier, so I couldn't. I hope you can find a fast mirror. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heads up for fsn debian-unofficial mirrors
Hello, Yeah, I'm mirroring from ftp.no.debian.org that hasn't gotten a trigger from me yet. Shouldn't take that long, I get a couple of megs/s from there :) And why it isn't in my MIRRORS file? I fixed that, thanks :) [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVDs seem to work fine
Hello, I have successfully made the 8 Woody cd's from http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area . However I haven't been able to make a dvd image from http://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody-dvd/jigdo/. I come up short about 200+ files and each time it goes out to one of the sources it finds maybe 10 of 200 files, repeats this on on but never gets to a finished image stage. What is your method of success? I think this is mainly because those jigdo files are made daily, so you need to be in sync with ftp.se.debian.org for that day (we mirror from them). So if you don't have some files, try using ftp.se.debian.org as a mirror. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVDs seem to work fine
Hello, http://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody-dvd/jigdo/. I come up short about 200+ files and each time it goes out to one of the sources it finds maybe 10 of 200 files, repeats this on on but never gets to a finished image stage. What is your method of success? BTW, if you are using older jigdo files, you may have been faced with disappeared files from the Debian archive. To get over this, you can add the following line to the end of your .jigdo file: [Servers] MD5Sum=ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/debian-superseded/ This will search deleted files at our site. I've added this to the jigdo files, so the next ones, starting with today will have this line. In the above directory you can find the deleted files from Debian archive (we keep 10 days' purged packages). [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo-easy2win and Unofficial CD images: .jigdo for woodymissing?
Hello, You can use that pool simply by appending the following line to the [Servers] section of any jigdo file: MD5Sum=ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/debian-superseded/ Correctly: MD5Sum=ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/debian-superseded/ or MD5Sum=http://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/debian-superseded/ [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anarchy on CD's (lot of packages on first CD depends on packagesthat are not in the first CD, etc)
Hello, And first CD must contain xserver-common, xserver-xfree86, xserver-common-v3, xfonts and all basic tools and programs, that are needed on most systems (Older CD images from ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub... were better, as there were X system, mc, gimp and other good programs in the 1st CD) Does anyone know if that the result of tweaks to debian-cd that have not been folded into CVS, or is it simply that sizes of packages have changed so that debian-cd simply decided to split the groups of packages up differently on these latest tests? In task-woody there is gmc (talking about mc) and gimp1.2, but there is no xserver-xfree86, that's true. BTW, there are some interesting stuff, like xgalaga (which is unusable without X :) and others, like xfonts-bolkhov-koi8r-misc... I think there are many unusable stuff which makes other packages don't fit on the first CD. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Official Woody CD's and the unofficial CD set
Hello, Will there be any direct relationship between the Official Woody 3.0 CD's to be released, and the current unofficial CD set? That is, for example, will the first official CD have the same packages as the first unofficial CD currently has; or will the packages be reshuffled and distributed differently across the new CD set? The CDs has been made with the same tools. The only difference should be the layout of the packages, caused by the size of each CD. BTW, when the official images will be released the unofficial stuff will go away (this is only for woody of course). [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody DVD Image
Hello, I want download the Woody DVD Image from ftp.fsn.hu with jigdo-easy om a W2k PC. It will not work! The error message is: I think the problem is because the disc is so large. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Daily Debian DVD (large ISO) snapshots
Hello, I can only repeat myself: This is very cool! :-) I've sent off a note to DWN about it. Thanks. One question: How long does one day's jigdo snapshot stay downloadable? In other words, how many days does your debian-superseded directory cover? [That directory on fsn.hu contains files that were deleted from unstable/testing during the last days.] Currently 14 days. That means I have packages, deleted 14 days ago from the Debian archive. If I calculated this correctly, people downloading a DVD image via modem would need a full week to complete the download, so it's probably impossible for them to get the images. I don't know. I have a friend who burns daily snapshots from woody and sid, but he has an ADSL connection, which is sligthly faster than a POTS modem. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody CDs...
Hello, That's 650 MB*84= 54600 MB= 53.32 GBs. I will probably manage to have that online. If we drop the 40-45 gigs we currently have in unofficial woody images and bring some more disk online that we recently got our hands on. After woody there will be another testing release. So the debian unofficial saga will continue :) [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody CDs...
Hello, Yes, that is a hint. Got any wide scsi or (ibm) SSA disks? :) I can also use wide SCSI, so no to that question. BTW, one of my friends used to have some bigger SSA disks, but because he could not do anything with them, they went to the trashbin AFAIK. Grr... :( [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody CDs...
Hello, What's going to be made available where for release? Just jigdo stuff? http/ftp/rsync-able images? Of all CDs for all architectures, or just some for some? The big question is, how the mirrors will handle the extra space requirements. If we count with just 7 CDs per arch (including src) we get 12*7=84 CDs (alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc, src). That's 650 MB*84= 54600 MB= 53.32 GBs. Who the hell will have a full mirror of that? That's another Debian mirror... And as far as I can tell from the jigdo files, it seems that we have more than 7 CDs in some directories. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody CDs...
Hello, Well, based on the jigdo files on cdimage.d.o, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc and source are 7 CDs, and the rest are 6. Not all of them are full CDs, either. ? -rw-r--r-- 71739 2002/04/17 19:58:22 woody-i386-1.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 95016 2002/04/17 21:51:33 woody-i386-1_NONUS.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 87720 2002/04/17 23:21:24 woody-i386-2.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 154730 2002/04/18 01:18:10 woody-i386-3.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 108186 2002/04/18 02:34:05 woody-i386-4.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 105131 2002/04/18 03:43:41 woody-i386-5.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 53179 2002/04/18 04:17:50 woody-i386-6.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 113868 2002/04/18 04:58:05 woody-i386-7.jigdo 8 CDs. So we can surely count with an average of 6 full CDs. I think 7 wouldn't be a bad approximation too... [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody CDs...
Hello, -rw-r--r-- 71739 2002/04/17 19:58:22 woody-i386-1.jigdo -rw-r--r-- 95016 2002/04/17 21:51:33 woody-i386-1_NONUS.jigdo There's not much point having both on the mirrors. That's completely true. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jigdo + proxies
Hello, I'm trying to use jigdo to download iso images from a windows box but I'm running through a proxy server. I've set the env variables for http_proxy and ftp_proxy. While I can use wget to download. Jigdo wont use a proxy. Does anyone know how to set it to use one? Because jigdo uses wget to fetch stuff, see man wget. (hint ~/.wgetrc and/or hacking the command line options, passed to it) I think this is your problem (wget needs -Y on to use the proxy settings). [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot/woody/boot-ia64 use of links
Hello, My last attempt to produce sparc images resulted in broken jigdo templates for 1 1_NONUS, but I've not yet attempted to diagnose the problem. I think we should ask Manty to send a diff. He has sparc images. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-booting sparc, non-making sparc
Hello, cannot find file ar (a binary file that does something for the script but is not here) cannot find cd.b or second.b Then it does not make any images. It seems to me that the sparc build is sligthly broken... Manty, could you please share your diffs against the debian-cd in CVS with us? [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors while making i386 woody CDs.
Hello, Both warnings are related to the same problem ... there are packages without a Section field. You can safely ignore those messages. Thanks. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small report (re: isolinux test image, debian-cd changes available)
Hello, I tested first the 24bf image. I was surprised to see it uses a framebuffer... Now... This can be good, but I don't understand why it is using it - The display is MUCH slower than using the regular interface, and it is still curses-based. What did we gain from framebuffer? The I18N support, I think. You can choose languages with special characters too (UTF8). Second - I am installing it using the Spanish interface. When I get to choose the filesystem type I will be using, the text is almost too wide to be shown on screen... It fits, but it is noticeably too wide, because of the description of the Ext3 line: Wrong list. This report should be sent to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Please forward to them, or file the bug reports against the boot floppies. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downloading sid images using Jigdo
Hello, I tried to use jigdo-lite do download sid images, but it can't get some files from http://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/debian-superseded/. Will you please explain me the use of this files, do i need to download newest *.jigdo files to fix this? Yes, you have to download the newest *.jigdo files. And yes, this is quite off-topic on this list :) If there are any problems, please write me. [ Free Software ISOs - ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/ ]--- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU)phone @work: +361 210 1415 (194) cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building DVD images
Hello, I also had to hack my list2cds-cram code to use kilobytes [...] I think instead of depending on python, or any other big, and complicated stuff it is enough to use bc for this task. It is small and can work with bigger numbers too :) -- Attila Nagye-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Budapest Polytechnic (BMF.HU) @work: +361 210 1415 (194) H-1084 Budapest, Tavaszmezo u. 15-17. cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download softwares
Hello, I can't believe the debian team promotes proprietary instead of free software ! For me debian was the distribution which was the most pro-free software. Just look at the one core component of the Debian GNU/Linux. The kernel. It is developed in a system which is a proprietary stuff. :) -- Attila Nagye-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Budapest Polytechnic (BMF.HU) @work: +361 210 1415 (194) H-1084 Budapest, Tavaszmezo u. 15-17. cell.: +3630 306 6758 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
