Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main
Bart Schuller writes: Has anything changed since then, or do we have a too short collective memory? I had always assumed that everything in non-us contained encryption code, as do the few things in it that I have actually used. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
something is f***ed
Ok, i just apt-get upgraded about an hour ago, to my horror i can no longer login, nor can I su, it just sits there doing nothing. I also cannot telnet to localhost. Someone on irc just upgraded also and got the exact same problem. What is going on!? -- Stephen Crowley Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.debian.org -- pgpNutPIpUfen.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What Bruce had to say about non-Pixar names. Re: what's after slink
On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 09:57:50PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote: On Sat, 17 October 1998 11:10:10 -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: john I'd still like to use penguins. Indeed, that was the best proposal yet. Cool, a linux named Opus. Can it get better? Chilly Willy was another famous cartoon penguin. Regards, Jeff -- It's time to close windows and open source. Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds.
Re: something is f***ed
I found out the problem is in sysklogd, not sure what is going on though. -- Stephen Crowley Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.debian.org -- pgp8zboM3TGbD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote: FWIW - I have the same problem. No idled. No logoutd. No lines in /etc/porttime. Still get booted off the console after several hours. Perhaps it's your shell; tcsh has auto-logout functionality. nope. i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks). the problem also occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was noticed. craig -- craig sanders
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 10:03:30AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: nope. i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks). the problem also occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was noticed. perhaps cpu seconds limit enforced by ulimit? See ulimit -a Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy
Re: Uploaded sysklogd 1.3-29 (source i386) to master
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) writes: sysklogd (1.3-29) unstable; urgency=low, closes=24893 . * Re-Applied patch provided vom Topi Miettinen with regard to the people from OpenBSD. This provides the additional '-a' argument used for specifying additional UNIX domain sockets to listen to. This is been used with chroot()'ed named's for example. An example is described at http://www.psionic.com/papers/dns.html. This time the patch doesn't stall syslogd. Thanks to Topi Miettinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (closes: Bug#24893) it still doesn't work. please, please, please test this before you upload it again. the new syslog completely froze my system (mail wasn't going out, etc) i couldn't even su to root. on reboot it just hang there. i had to go into single user and disable syslog (chmod -x /etc/init.d/sysklogd) before i could do anything. thanks. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Is rvplayer working for others?
Works for me. Make sure you have all the libs you need. Output of ldd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rvplayer/rvplayer /lib/nfslock.so.0 = /lib/nfslock.so.0 (0x4000c000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4000e000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4002) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x40062000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4006d000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x4010b000) libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x4010e000) libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x40146000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40177000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4018) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4023e000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40247000) If you use network audio, you may want to use the following script instead of the debian wrapper in /usr/X11R6/bin/rvplayer. x--cut- #!/bin/bash if /sbin/pidof au /dev/null 21 then sudo /etc/init.d/nas stop /dev/null 21 fi unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rvplayer/rvplayer $@ if ! /sbin/pidof rvplayer /dev/null 21 then sudo /etc/init.d/nas start /dev/null 21 fi exit 0 x--cut- From: Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 17 Oct 1998 16:21:08 -500 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070033 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.33) Emacs/20.3 Resent-From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-devel@lists.debian.org archive/latest/16984 X-Loop: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've installed the rvplayer package, but even something as simple as rvplayer /usr/doc/rvplayer/examples/welcome.rm doesn't work. The app comes up, and then it just sits there. Does this work for others? (verson 5.0-6) Thanks -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * * pgp public key on keyservers everywhere? */
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 10:03:30AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: nope. i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks). the problem also occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was noticed. perhaps cpu seconds limit enforced by ulimit? See ulimit -a nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has been exceeded. this is very strange as the machine in question has no timeout daemons (timeoutd, idled, autolog) installed. it's a plain slink install with internet-gateway dialin-server type packages installed (squid, apache, qmail, mgetty, pppd, etc) i've built many similar boxes and haven't encountered this problem before. it seems specific to slink. craig -- craig sanders
Re: 1FA: problem still in hamm disks
On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 09:49:54AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Quoting Tom Lees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): While I'm at it, *PLEASE* drop the dependency of lilo on mbr. I don't want a new mbr eg if I want to install LILO to use on a floppy ONLY (I use GRUB on my HD). Change it to Recommends. mbr being a high priority and/or essential (can't remember if it is) should be enough. Can someone explain what the point of mbr is? Why not just install lilo directly to the mbr? (I always go back and do this for security reasons anyway: I've disabled floppy boot in the bios, why do I want an mbr that re-enables it?) Well, if you install Windows 95 after installing LILO in the mbr, LILO is gone and you'll have to get out a floppy to boot Linux. If you put LILO in the boot sector (superblock?) instead, you just have to change the active partition again using Windows FDISK. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has been exceeded. Only on serial lines or on telnet/ssh/console, too? Are u sure there are no idle logout daemons installed? Some of them run from crontab so you wont see them in ps. Greetings bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has been exceeded. Only on serial lines or on telnet/ssh/console, too? Are u sure there are no idle logout daemons installed? Some of them run from crontab so you wont see them in ps. i've only noticed it on serial lines. it certainly doesn't happen on root ssh logins. i don't use telnet, and the machine is at a remote location so i don't know if it happens on the console -- i built it by logging in at the console, of course :-), and i don't remember it happening then. i should test whether it is specific to non-root logins as well. ssh as a normal user rather than as root. craig -- craig sanders
Re: syntax highlighting in gtk
Michael == Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael I read so much about a patch needed to get syntax Michael highlighting. Do we have that patch in out gtk libs? If Michael no, why not? I'm not sure what you mean by syntax highlighting (isn't that what Emacs does? :) but we're using the upstream sources. If there's a patch that upstream doesn't want to accept, then we can perhaps include it in our packages, but the author of this patch should try to get it included upstream. Ben -- Brought to you by the letters K and L and the number 18. Son, I am able, she said, though you scare me. -- They Might Be Giants Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow? http://www.debian.org/ I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox.
Re: More interesting gnome/gtk software
Michael == Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael I found more than GXedit. There is a nice task timer Michael available named gtimer. I might package that one Michael too. Also there is a GTK mp3 player named replay. It is Michael GPLed but based on amp. I wonder if this is Michael correct. Anyway, since I seldom play MP3s I let this to Michael someone else. gtimer has already been packaged. -- Brought to you by the letters C and V and the number 11. Gorilla Gorilla Gorilla Gorilla Gorilla Gorilla (Stop That) -- Alliances Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow? http://www.debian.org/ I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox.
Re: Is rvplayer working for others?
Rob == Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rob I've installed the rvplayer package, but even something as Rob simple as Rob rvplayer /usr/doc/rvplayer/examples/welcome.rm Rob doesn't work. The app comes up, and then it just sits there. Rob Does this work for others? (verson 5.0-6) rvplayer does not work under Linux 2.1, if that's what you're running. -- Brought to you by the letters A and L and the number 8. Mmm.. slanty.. -- Homer Simpson Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow? http://www.debian.org/ I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox.
Re: Is rvplayer working for others?
On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 07:17:03PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: rvplayer does not work under Linux 2.1, if that's what you're running. Why not? I noticed today that it wasn't working...are there any fixes? It'll suck when 2.2 comes out and rvplayer don't wrok...
Re: Is rvplayer working for others?
W. Paul Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4018) Ah. You're using the older version, but other than newer versions, I have all the relevant libs. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Is rvplayer working for others?
Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rvplayer does not work under Linux 2.1, if that's what you're running. Thanks. That explains it. Hope it gets fixed soon one way or another... -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: M-x toggle-auto-compression M-x auto-compression-mode Just put (auto-compression-mode 1) in your .emacs. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades
Zed Pobre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't agree here. Some programs have included example files that are either c files that (unless there's a trick I don't know about) will not compile compressed, or example data files that cannot be read by the program in question compressed. The svgalib package(s) comes to mind as an example. Should I file a wishlist bug against policy that files meant to be compiled or used by programs otherwise not supporting gzip be left uncompressed? Unless you're logged in as root, you're not going to be able to build these example files inside /usr/doc (nor should you) anyway, so you'll have to copy them somewhere else. You can run gunzip on them then and there's no problem. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. We have zless to less gz'd files. Magicfilter will print them, as will a2ps (maybe some others will too, haven't tried it.) Netscape reads them, so does lynx. And of course man and info work with them. zgrep will grep them. vim reads them just fine. I'm drawing a blank on things I can't do with .gz'd files... I also mention (in bash) foobar (zcat somefile.gz) This works for many cases where the tool needs a file rather than input on standard input. There may be some restrictions (it may not work if the tool needs random access (like gcc)). -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
nextish gtk and similar (Was: syntax highlighting in gtk)
Are there any plans to package things like the nextish GTK patches or anything like that? From freshmeat: subject: GTKstep 1.1.2 added by: Ullrich Hafner [EMAIL PROTECTED] time: 15:08 category: Software GTKstep is a patch to improve the boring GTK+ look and feel with a NEXTSTEP(tm) look and feel. There are patches available for GTK+ 1.0.x and 1.1.x. o Download (ftp://sunshine.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/wmaker/gtkstep/) o Homepage (http://www-info2.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/mitarbeiter/ulli/gtkstep/) o Appindex Record (http://appindex.freshmeat.net/view/907673219/) Seems like all the wmaker users and afterstep/asclassic users (me) would probably feel much happier with something that didn't look so ugly and out of place on our systems. = I'd offer to package it, but I honestly don't know how would be the right way to do that kind of a package. I'm not unwilling to try it though if someone wouldn't mind offering to help keep me from making a HUGE mess out of it and if I'm not the only person who would use the things.. pgpY1TE5mnf5y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nextish gtk and similar (Was: syntax highlighting in gtk)
I have packaged up some gtk 1.0 / gtk 1.1 packages that include the gtkstep patches. I am about to upload these to ftp://fx1.circlefx.com/debian/ in a little while. So anyone feel free to try them out / test them. I have also packaged up cooledit 3.7.4. Regards, Patrick Cole ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Dune Systems On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote: Are there any plans to package things like the nextish GTK patches or anything like that? From freshmeat: subject: GTKstep 1.1.2 added by: Ullrich Hafner [EMAIL PROTECTED] time: 15:08 category: Software GTKstep is a patch to improve the boring GTK+ look and feel with a NEXTSTEP(tm) look and feel. There are patches available for GTK+ 1.0.x and 1.1.x. o Download (ftp://sunshine.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/wmaker/gtkstep/) o Homepage (http://www-info2.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/mitarbeiter/ulli/gtkstep/) o Appindex Record (http://appindex.freshmeat.net/view/907673219/) Seems like all the wmaker users and afterstep/asclassic users (me) would probably feel much happier with something that didn't look so ugly and out of place on our systems. = I'd offer to package it, but I honestly don't know how would be the right way to do that kind of a package. I'm not unwilling to try it though if someone wouldn't mind offering to help keep me from making a HUGE mess out of it and if I'm not the only person who would use the things..
Re: Uploaded sysklogd 1.3-29 (source i386) to master
reopen 24893 thanks Alex Romosan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) writes: sysklogd (1.3-29) unstable; urgency=low, closes=24893 . * Re-Applied patch provided vom Topi Miettinen with regard to the people from OpenBSD. This provides the additional '-a' argument used for specifying additional UNIX domain sockets to listen to. This is been used with chroot()'ed named's for example. An example is described at http://www.psionic.com/papers/dns.html. This time the patch doesn't stall syslogd. Thanks to Topi Miettinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (closes: Bug#24893) it still doesn't work. please, please, please test this before you upload it again. the new syslog completely froze my system (mail wasn't going out, etc) i couldn't even su to root. on reboot it just hang there. i had to go into single user and disable syslog (chmod -x /etc/init.d/sysklogd) before i could do anything. thanks. I did test it. Contrary to -27 this time I directly tested it on my log host which makes heavy use of syslog due to a lot of pop3, news and smtp activities. (and not on the compile host). However currently -29 stops syslog'ing at all. I'm about to cry and quit this stuff. Would you like to test a pre-release of -30? Again, on my server it runs as expected. This release contains a patch against the former version. ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.1_i386.deb Regards, Joey -- Let's call it an accidental feature. --Larry Wall
Re: Is rvplayer working for others?
On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 10:30:16PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 07:17:03PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: rvplayer does not work under Linux 2.1, if that's what you're running. Why not? I noticed today that it wasn't working...are there any fixes? Its a bug in rvplayer, the sound code changed to fix some broken behaver, the fix broke rvplayer, people on both sides know the problem, on the driver side its a case of a bug fix, plain and simple.. On the rvplayer side, nobody there seems to want to talk about it... *sigh* It'll suck when 2.2 comes out and rvplayer don't wrok... Zephaniah E, Hull. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpOIosVU7x0c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: something is f***ed
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Stephen Crowley wrote: Ok, i just apt-get upgraded about an hour ago, to my horror i can no longer login, nor can I su, it just sits there doing nothing. I also cannot telnet to localhost. Someone on irc just upgraded also and got the exact same problem. What is going on!? What error does it give when you try to su? Does anything useful appear in the /var/log files generated by syslogd? I hope you didn't log out of the root account yet... -- I'll be in Denver from 30 Oct 1998 to 7 Nov 1998 (or maybe a few days longer). I'll be in London from ~9 Nov 1998. I'd like to meet any Linux users or users groups in these places at these times. I plan to work in London for 3 - 6 months...
Re: Uploaded sysklogd 1.3-29 (source i386) to master
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you like to test a pre-release of -30? Again, on my server it runs as expected. This release contains a patch against the former version. ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.1_i386.deb i just installed sysklogd 1.3-29.1 on one of my systems. i'll let you know if i have any problems with it or not. thanks. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Uploaded sysklogd 1.3-29 (source i386) to master
Nope, same problems, cant su, cant telnet in. -- Stephen Crowley Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.debian.org -- pgpD1gxhbyDMg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 1FA: problem still in hamm disks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Gertzfield) wrote on 16.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brent == Brent Fulgham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brent I'd like to chime in -- It's a real annoyance that the base Brent disks don't set up lilo to let you boot into multiple Brent operating systems. Couldn't it ask if you want to Brent dual-boot with windows, or whatever, and generate an Brent appropriate lilo.conf file? Sure. How about you write the script to do so? What happened to the old lilo QuickInst or however it was named? I think I used that when installing my first (Slackware) Linux, and I believe saw it under /usr/doc/lilo not so long ago. ISTR it doing a decent job of implementing this - or maybe my memory is faulty? MfG Kai
Re: what's after slink
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Tille) wrote on 08.10.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: see at the people near you and look at yourself with the eyes of an Hitchhiker) Can't. (Can you guess that I don't much like the Hitchhiker stuff?) - Another naming scheme without any background would be A, B, C... There where programming languages doing this for only three stages to get *very* popular... Nope. That wasn't the sequence that led to C. I won't swear to it, but I seem to remember the predecessor of C was BCPL. MfG Kai
Re: something is f***ed
On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 06:07:17PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: Ok, i just apt-get upgraded about an hour ago, to my horror i can no longer login, nor can I su, it just sits there doing nothing. I also cannot telnet to localhost. Someone on irc just upgraded also and got the exact same problem. What is going on!? Confirmed problem here too. Same symptoms. Have you solved this one yet. Just to re-iterate: Can log in as normal user. Cannot log in as root (except in single user/maintainace mode). - this includes su-ing to root. The machine just sits there after a root login, no messages, nothing. Cannot connect to the machine (from localhost or from other puters on the network). What is going on??? Chris -- -- REALITY.SYS corrupted: Reboot universe? (Y/N/Q) Debian GNU/Linux -- Reply with subject 'request key' for PGP public key. KeyID 0xA9E087D5 pgp4mteeDAWLr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: what's after slink
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) | | - Another naming scheme without any background would be A, B, C... |There where programming languages doing this for only three |stages to get *very* popular... | | Nope. That wasn't the sequence that led to C. I won't swear to it, but I | seem to remember the predecessor of C was BCPL. CPL - BCPL - B - C B was never widely published or used, so many don't count it. I don't think there ever was an A. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[HELP]: FILESYSTEM ERROR ! :((((((((((((
Hi, I'm having serials problems with my linux partition ! :(( It happened when the power was down ! :(( That's what appears: - cut here -- Parallelizing fsck version 1.12 (9-Jul-98) /dev/hda2 contains a file system with errors, check failed /dev/hda2: Unattached inode 70007 /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY (i.e., without -a or -p options) $mount /dev/hda2 on / type ext2 (rw, errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc(rw) cut here I already used the -a and -p options instead and always had that error ! :(( What should I do ? Can someone help me ? Thanks. Best regards, Nuno Carvalho
Re: something is f***ed
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Chris Leishman wrote: : On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 06:07:17PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: : Ok, i just apt-get upgraded about an hour ago, to my horror i can no : longer login, nor can I su, it just sits there doing nothing. I : also cannot telnet to localhost. Someone on irc just upgraded also and got : the exact same problem. What is going on!? : : : : Confirmed problem here too. Same symptoms. Have you solved this one : yet. What version of sysklogd are we talking about? -27? -28? -Remco
Re: [HELP]: FILESYSTEM ERROR ! :(((((((((((( IT'S SOLVED ! :)))
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Nuno Carvalho wrote: I'm having serials problems with my linux partition ! :(( It happened when the power was down ! :(( That's what appears: - cut here -- Parallelizing fsck version 1.12 (9-Jul-98) /dev/hda2 contains a file system with errors, check failed /dev/hda2: Unattached inode 70007 /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY (i.e., without -a or -p options) $mount /dev/hda2 on / type ext2 (rw, errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc(rw) cut here I already used the -a and -p options instead and always had that error ! :(( I already corrected my filesystem partition! :)) To resolve it I just did: $ fsck /dev/hda2 instead of -a and -p options ! Thanks for all. Best regards, Nuno Carvalho
new unstable please
Hi, I noticed that with the transition to frozen, as expected, packages too unstable to be in frozen have vanished (on ftp.debian.org, at least). I hope I can expect a new unstable to appear within a few days, if only to drop those packages which were removed from frozen into it. I guess a name needs to be agreed on. Thomas
Re: Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You'll also find the new version which has the offending code removed: ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-28_i386.deb Does -29 have it reinserted? I'm seeing the same problem. greg
Netscape packages and lesstif
The dmotif netscape packages seem to depend on lesstif, does this mean you can run them with just lesstif? Or is that in addition to requiring real Motif libraries? I'm surprised (but happily so) since i thought lesstif aimed only at source-level compatibility not binary level. greg
Re: Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?
Gregory S. Stark wrote: You'll also find the new version which has the offending code removed: ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-28_i386.deb Does -29 have it reinserted? I'm seeing the same problem. Yes. That was the intention - which failed again. *sigh* Could you try the next prelimnary version? ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.2_i386.deb Regards, Joey -- Let's call it an accidental feature. --Larry Wall
Re: Uploaded sysklogd 1.3-29 (source i386) to master
Alex Romosan wrote: Alex Romosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just installed sysklogd 1.3-29.1 on one of my systems. i'll let you know if i have any problems with it or not. thanks. well, i can't send any mail out, and there is nothing logged to syslog. i can't su either. looks like nothing changed. I introduced a severe bug. Could you try the next prelimnary version and tell me if it works for you? ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.2_i386.deb Regards, Joey -- Let's call it an accidental feature. --Larry Wall
Re: new unstable please
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Thomas Lakofski wrote: Hi, I noticed that with the transition to frozen, as expected, packages too unstable to be in frozen have vanished (on ftp.debian.org, at least). I hope I can expect a new unstable to appear within a few days, if only to drop those packages which were removed from frozen into it. I guess a name needs to be agreed on. IMHO we should go for emperor. Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: [snip] nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has been exceeded. Do you have PAM installed. I vaguely remember you can specify such things there (but i'm not sure though). Bart -- B. Warmerdam GNU/Debian Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keyid: 10A0FDD1)
Re: new unstable please
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:54:28AM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Thomas Lakofski wrote: Hi, I noticed that with the transition to frozen, as expected, packages too unstable to be in frozen have vanished (on ftp.debian.org, at least). I hope I can expect a new unstable to appear within a few days, if only to drop those packages which were removed from frozen into it. I guess a name needs to be agreed on. IMHO we should go for emperor. Erwin!! Zephaniah E, Hull, --- Addicted.. Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpCdUb3waB1K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE gone, Linux next ? [binary only support != good support]
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, this new security fix breaks the binary-only gigabit ethernet driver. That's what stable kernel interfaces are for. Actually I don't recall _any_ change in a stable kernel that broke any kernel-interface. Ok, you have this problem with development-kernels, but a production system shouldn't be built on that anyway. I can't say if there are any license problems with binary-only kernel modules, but the horror-scenario that you propose shouldn't occur with stable kernels, so it is no argument against binary-only modules. BTW: when a company decides to build their productive environment on a open-source system like linux, they should really use their brain and choose hardware that has open-source drivers. Actually the open source is _one_ of the arguments pro such a system, so it sounds really stupid to drop this idea on something as important as a kernel-level driver module! This shouldn't say that I would find binary-only drivers any good - actually I won't use them. bye, Georg -- http://www.westfalen.de/hugo/
Re: something is f***ed
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:20:28 +0200 (CEST), Remco van de Meent wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Chris Leishman wrote: : On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 06:07:17PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: : Ok, i just apt-get upgraded about an hour ago, to my horror i can no : longer login, nor can I su, it just sits there doing nothing. I : also cannot telnet to localhost. Someone on irc just upgraded also and : got the exact same problem. What is going on!? : Confirmed problem here too. Same symptoms. Have you solved this one : yet. What version of sysklogd are we talking about? -27? -28? 1.3-29 here. Just upgraded it accidentally. :/ Haven't checked but has a bug been reported on this? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: What Bruce had to say about non-Pixar names. Re: what's after slink
*- Jeff Noxon wrote about Re: What Bruce had to say about non-Pixar names. Re: what's after slink | On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 09:57:50PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote: | On Sat, 17 October 1998 11:10:10 -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | john I'd still like to use penguins. |Indeed, that was the best proposal yet. | | Cool, a linux named Opus. Can it get better? | | Chilly Willy was another famous cartoon penguin. | What do the HURD developers think of this? The penguin is only for the linux kernel right? -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: What Bruce had to say about non-Pixar names. Re: what's after slink
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 09:26:10AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- Jeff Noxon wrote about Re: What Bruce had to say about non-Pixar names. Re: what's after slink | On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 09:57:50PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote: | On Sat, 17 October 1998 11:10:10 -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | john I'd still like to use penguins. |Indeed, that was the best proposal yet. | | Cool, a linux named Opus. Can it get better? | | Chilly Willy was another famous cartoon penguin. | What do the HURD developers think of this? The penguin is only for the linux kernel right? I posted my stance on the logo issue multiple times to the Debian lists in the past, and don't think that the Debian logo should refer to a penguin or a gnu. However, using anything (even penguin names) as code names for releases is fine with me. My proposal is to use makepasswd --crypt and use the login name, 62^8 different code names, should last for at least... 7.3e13 years :P Thank you, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
Emacs addon packages--compile upon install?
This morning I uploaded a version of w3-el that doesn't compile upon installation--instead, there are separate precompiled packages for Emacs 19 and Emacs 20, plus a shared documentation package. I see this as a better way to go than forcing the end-user to have to sit through a long compile (it can take 15-30 minutes for w3-el to compile on an older machine). I am trying to remember the rationale we had for making Emacs' addon packages compile when they install themselves, and I can't remember it. Perhaps you can remind me. Unless there's a really good reason, I think it might be better strategy to more towards something closer to the w3-el model, i.e., one binary package for each Emacs version: for instance, bbdb-e19, bbdb-e20, bbdb-x19, bbdb-x20. There could be a bbdb-common or bbdb-doc for shared files. Comments?
Re: [owner@bugs.debian.org: Debian bugs information: logs for bug#26827]
On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 09:29:28AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: snip It IS implied that its FULLY gnu-su compatible, if it is not then it Where did you find that? I never read it. See control file, under provides. should not provide su, very very simple.. But then gnu-su is not your standard su. As usually with gnu tools it has much more features than the su you find on other unix versions. I still don't see why this is important enough to warrant a removal of secure-su. But gnu-su is the DEBIAN STANDARD su, it provides the DEBIAN SU PACKAGE, doing so and not supporting the gnu-su features breaks things, this by definition is a critical bug, end of story.. Zephaniah E, Hull. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz | Go SF49ers! Senior-Consultant | business: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Go Rhein Fire! Mummert+Partner | private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Use Debian Unternehmensberatung AG | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GNU/Linux! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp1meeW2zDav.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]
Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: maybe a compromise would be to leave the packages in slink, make sure the Description: field highlights their alpha status, and automatically close all non-packaging bugs (and forward them upstream if it makes sense to do so). I hope this is what Jim decides to do... we really want people to try out the Gnome software, even though it's alpha. Red Hat ships it for that reason... bug reports can go upstream, or just be ignored if they've already been fixed in more recent Gnome versions or Jim doesn't have time... I was just asking people's opinions as I was unsure what the criteria for putting things into stable was. Most people seem to be in favour of putting Gnome into stable, mostly for marketability reasons, so I guess I'm OK with that. However, I don't want to make the stable release look bad - so I think I'll do a bit more work on the packages to make them a bit more newbie-friendly. If it's helpful, in the future Gnome could have a GUI splashscreen that says ALPHA in big red letters. ;-) I think we need something like that. There are quite a few Gnome programs that are fairly stable, and are going to maintain compatibility (for file formats, and such) going forward. On the other hand, I'm sure lots of Gnome programs are going to be breaking forward-compatibility, as they are still under heavy development. We'll probably still get people using stable who will see alpha, ignore it, and get burnt. If that's OK with everybody, I don't see a problem with Gnome in stable. Alpha releases could even expire after 90 days or something... boy, would we get flamed for that. ;-) That's an awful idea. :-) Cheers, - Jim
Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts
Martin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: around compiling all the i386 stuff for the other archs. But nobody goes around compiling the stuff from the other archs for i386! So if I suddenly do all my package development on Alpha, the Alpha will have the current versions, and perhaps the Sparc and m68k too, but i386 will be obsolete! Fix anybody? I have been compiling the enscript package for i386, which Hartmut Koptein maintains on powerpc. So there are people doing this, it just isn't widespread at the moment. Excellent. Is there some sort of automated mechanism like the other platforms have? (That is, packages get automatically build on these other platforms)? -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capital Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org
Re: Emacs addon packages--compile upon install?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: This morning I uploaded a version of w3-el that doesn't compile upon installation--instead, there are separate precompiled packages for Emacs 19 and Emacs 20, plus a shared documentation package. I see this as a better way to go than forcing the end-user to have to sit through a long compile (it can take 15-30 minutes for w3-el to compile on an older machine). I am trying to remember the rationale we had for making Emacs' addon packages compile when they install themselves, and I can't remember it. Perhaps you can remind me. Unless there's a really good reason, I think it might be better strategy to more towards something closer to the w3-el model, i.e., one binary package for each Emacs version: for instance, bbdb-e19, bbdb-e20, bbdb-x19, bbdb-x20. There could be a bbdb-common or bbdb-doc for shared files. Comments? I agree that waiting for the large add-on packages to compile during installation is very aggravating. At the same time, it puts a lot of load on the maintainers to build so many byte-compiled versions. How about a hybrid approach? ie. for bbdb bbdb-el - source package bbdb-auto- compiles for each emacs when installed bbdb-common - common files bbdb-doc - documentation (optionally) bbdb-e19 - for emacs 19 bbdb-e20 - for emacs 20 bbdb-x19 - for xemacs 19 bbdb-x20 - for xemacs 20 What would be really nice is if the pre-byte-compiled versions could be built separately from the main source. That way, they could be prepared by somebody other than the primary maintainer (using an automated package building script, similar to the make-kpkg approach). Small emacs add-on packages wouldn't need the pre-byte-compiled packages. But it would be very nice for larger packages, such as bbdb, gnus, w3, etc. Cheers, - Jim
Re: something is f***ed
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:20:28AM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Chris Leishman wrote: : On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 06:07:17PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: : Ok, i just apt-get upgraded about an hour ago, to my horror i can no : longer login, nor can I su, it just sits there doing nothing. I : also cannot telnet to localhost. Someone on irc just upgraded also and got : the exact same problem. What is going on!? : : : : Confirmed problem here too. Same symptoms. Have you solved this one : yet. What version of sysklogd are we talking about? -27? -28? -29 -- Stephen Crowley Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.debian.org -- pgpHnj27kuNHd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Emacs addon packages--compile upon install?
Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree that waiting for the large add-on packages to compile during installation is very aggravating. At the same time, it puts a lot of load on the maintainers to build so many byte-compiled versions. I'm not sure what you mean by this. With w3-el, I just set it up to build each flavor in a separate subdirectory; i.e., mkdir e19; cd e19; ../configure --with-emacs=emacs19; make mkdir e20; cd e20; ../configure --with-emacs=emacs20; make Simple and elegant. Yes, it took a little fiddling with the Makefile.in's to achieve this, since apparently w3-el wasn't designed to be compiled this way (most autoconf-based programs are), but now that it's done, it shouldn't have to be done again until the next version comes around. Ben
Re: Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 12:36:37PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Could you try the next prelimnary version? ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.2_i386.deb Great! This seems to fix it, no problems here. -- Stephen Crowley Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.debian.org -- pgpvX5cXPlt7x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Emacs addon packages--compile upon install?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: I am trying to remember the rationale we had for making Emacs' addon packages compile when they install themselves, and I can't remember it. Perhaps you can remind me. The main reasons I recall were that we didn't want to have 4 (or more later) different copies of each package on all the ftp sites, and we didn't want to have to have every add-on package maintainer install *every* flavor of emacs. We also didn't want to have to have add-on package maintainers worry about whether or not they needed to build a new release every time any emacs package was upgraded. Since the packages re-compile themselves on upgrade or install, they are less sensitive to emacsen main pacakge changes. If we need to revisit this discussion, we can... Unless there's a really good reason, I think it might be better strategy to more towards something closer to the w3-el model, i.e., one binary package for each Emacs version: for instance, bbdb-e19, bbdb-e20, bbdb-x19, bbdb-x20. There could be a bbdb-common or bbdb-doc for shared files. IMO a better solution is to set things up so that you don't re-compile on every upgrade. Quite a number of the recopiles are probably redundant (especially when it's only the debian revision of the add-on package that's changing). I've proposed a solution to this, but I haven't gotten much feedback from the people it would affect (the add-on package maintainers), and I also don't have the time to implement it right now. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: something is f***ed
Stephen Crowley wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:20:28AM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Chris Leishman wrote: : On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 06:07:17PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: : Ok, i just apt-get upgraded about an hour ago, to my horror i can no : longer login, nor can I su, it just sits there doing nothing. I : also cannot telnet to localhost. Someone on irc just upgraded also and got : the exact same problem. What is going on!? : : : : Confirmed problem here too. Same symptoms. Have you solved this one : yet. What version of sysklogd are we talking about? -27? -28? -29 Can you try: ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.2_i386.deb Regards, Joey -- Let's call it an accidental feature. --Larry Wall
Re: graphical workspace viewer
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there something like a graphical workspace viewer for Gnome? Do you mean a file browser, or a pager? If the former, then there's gmc. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Uploaded sysklogd 1.3-29 (source i386) to master
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I introduced a severe bug. Could you try the next prelimnary version and tell me if it works for you? ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.2_i386.deb Works for me. I was getting hangs opening /dev/log before (bind, ppp, etc) and now I'm not. Oh, and I'm running 2.0.35. .A. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/
libgimp/glib/gtk weirdness...
When trying to build my rather overdue debian package (libgimp-perl), I get this at the configure stage: configure:815: cc -o conftest -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include co nftest.c -L/usr/lib -lgimpui -lgimp -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lXi -l Xext -lX11 -lm 15 /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_debug' /usr/lib/libgtk.so: undefined reference to `g_module_supported' /usr/lib/libgtk.so: undefined reference to `g_module_error' /usr/lib/libgimpui.so: undefined reference to `gtk_object_check_cast' /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_message' /usr/lib/libgtk.so: undefined reference to `g_module_make_resident' /usr/lib/libgtk.so: undefined reference to `g_module_close' /usr/lib/libgtk.so: undefined reference to `g_module_name' /usr/lib/libgtk.so: undefined reference to `g_module_symbol' /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_warning' /usr/lib/libgtk.so: undefined reference to `g_module_open' /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_error' Now, it looks to me like there is a mismatch between the -dev libraries I have installed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -l 'libg*dev' | grep 'ii' 7:39PM ii libgdbmg1-dev 1.7.3-25 GNU dbm database routines (development files ii libgimp-dev 1.0.1-1Header files for compiling plugins for The G ii libglib-dev 1.1.3-2Header files and static libraries for the GL ii libgtk1.1-dev 1.1.2-2Development files for the GIMP Toolkit, unst ii libguile2-dev 1.2-5 Header files and development libraries for g My instinct is to guess that libgimp 1.0 won't compile against libgtk1.1. However, I can't backtrack to libgtk-dev, since libglib-dev requires libgtk1.1. Is this a bug? If so, in which package? I've copied Che into this email anyway, since he seems to be reponsible for a large chunk of the programs concerned. Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | Debian GNU/Linux - Microsoft *does* have a year 2000 problem - | | and we're it! (paraphrased from IRC) | \--/
Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: around compiling all the i386 stuff for the other archs. But nobody goes around compiling the stuff from the other archs for i386! So if I suddenly do all my package development on Alpha, the Alpha will have the current versions, and perhaps the Sparc and m68k too, but i386 will be obsolete! Fix anybody? I have been compiling the enscript package for i386, which Hartmut Koptein maintains on powerpc. So there are people doing this, it just isn't widespread at the moment. Excellent. Is there some sort of automated mechanism like the other platforms have? (That is, packages get automatically build on these other platforms)? I believe people use quinn-diff plus dbuild plus god knows ? .A. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/
Re: Emacs addon packages--compile upon install?
Quoting Ben Pfaff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm not sure what you mean by this. With w3-el, I just set it up to build each flavor in a separate subdirectory; i.e., mkdir e19; cd e19; ../configure --with-emacs=emacs19; make mkdir e20; cd e20; ../configure --with-emacs=emacs20; make Simple and elegant. Simple because you didn't have to worry about xemacs. For other maintainers, they'd need e19, e20, xe19, and xe20. That would take what, about 100M? Not so elegant. Mike Stone
Re: libgimp/glib/gtk weirdness...
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 07:54:35PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: When trying to build my rather overdue debian package (libgimp-perl), I get this at the configure stage: [stuff deleted] Is this a bug? If so, in which package? I've copied Che into this email anyway, since he seems to be reponsible for a large chunk of the programs concerned. You need to link with -lgmodule -- Stephen Crowley Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.debian.org -- pgpx5P81cAFga.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Uploaded sysklogd 1.3-29 (source i386) to master
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I introduced a severe bug. Could you try the next prelimnary version and tell me if it works for you? ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-29.2_i386.deb well, i just tried 1.3-30 and it seems to work so far. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: (WARNING) xfree86 3.3.2.3a-2 (source all i386) uploaded to master
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 06:02:15AM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 10:25:57AM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W: xext: shlib-without-dependency-information usr/X11R6/lib/modules/xf86Jstk.so=20 I have always gotten this error. I don't know how to fix it, but it doesn't seem to hurt anyone. Well, this isn't a shared library that's going to be linked to, so there should be a way to override lintian's behavior. Oh, I get it. The complaint's not about the file itself, but the absence of mention in a shlibs file. Okay. Well, yeah, that should be overridden. The only thing that uses those modules is the X server. Maybe lintian should be modified to only run the shared library checks on files in the standard directories listed in /etc/ld.so.conf ? Actually, James Troup tells me this means that the .so files in question need to be compiled with the -lc option. If Those in the Know could come to a consensus on this, perhaps the lintian error tag and/or info could be rewritten to better explain this error. -- G. Branden Robinson |A committee is a life form with six or Debian GNU/Linux |more legs and no brain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Robert Heinlein cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpFOwyrjSltO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which PGP?
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:23:38PM +0100, James Troup wrote: Dave Swegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... 2.x; we don't accept later stuff. Really? I recently retrieved a lot of PGP5-Debian-Devel keys (signed Mailing-List e-Mails, mainly new Developpers), so I got the impression that PGP5 wasn't officially discouraged. This is obviously a problem, since I'm currently using pgp2.62ui which can't verify pgp 5 keys. David
Re: Emacs addon packages--compile upon install?
Michael Stone wrote: Simple because you didn't have to worry about xemacs. For other maintainers, they'd need e19, e20, xe19, and xe20. That would take what, about 100M? Not so elegant. *shrug* The lesstif maintainer needs more than that just to compile his package :-) Supporting only a specific list of emacsen would be a disadvantage, though. I bet there are a lot of obscure variations out there that we wouldn't necessarily want to have in the main distribution. It would be nice if the add-on packages worked on them anyway. Richard Braakman
Re: Which PGP?
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, David Frey wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:23:38PM +0100, James Troup wrote: Dave Swegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... 2.x; we don't accept later stuff. Really? I recently retrieved a lot of PGP5-Debian-Devel keys (signed Mailing-List e-Mails, mainly new Developpers), so I got the impression that PGP5 wasn't officially discouraged. This is obviously a problem, since I'm currently using pgp2.62ui which can't verify pgp 5 keys. What is the status of gnupg? Is there a Debian package available? It is shown as 'recommended' by debian-keyring, but doesn't seem to exist. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: libgimp/glib/gtk weirdness...
--On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 1:57 pm -0500 Stephen Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 07:54:35PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: When trying to build my rather overdue debian package (libgimp-perl), I get this at the configure stage: [stuff deleted] Is this a bug? If so, in which package? I've copied Che into this email anyway, since he seems to be reponsible for a large chunk of the programs concerned. You need to link with -lgmodule Ah. Interesting. I investigated that a bit. It turns out that the package I am building uses /usr/bin/gimptool --libs to find out its link-line. This is reasonable (although, if someone can point me in the direction of a concise explanation of my why /usr/bin has to be polluted by gimptool, gtk-config, imlib-config etc., I'd be grateful). /usr/bin/gimptool appears not to know about -lgmodule. However, it is written to fall back on gtk-config. gtk-config *does* know about -lgmodule. Apparently, I have to set an environment variable to force this override (GTK_CONFIG=/usr/bin/gtk-config). So, I did this. Now I get another link error. This is a mess... configure:815: cc -o conftest -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include co nftest.c -L/usr/lib -lgimpui -lgimp -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgm odule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm 15 /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_debug' /usr/lib/libgimpui.so: undefined reference to `gtk_object_check_cast' /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_message' /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_warning' /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `g_error' Any help appreciated, (Shall I shift over to -mentors?) Jules /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6 Evelyn Rd| | Jules aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Richmond, Surrey | | Julian Bean | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| TW9 2TF *UK* | ++---+-+ | Debian GNU/Linux - Microsoft *does* have a year 2000 problem - | | and we're it! (paraphrased from IRC) | \--/
Re: Which PGP?
David Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:23:38PM +0100, James Troup wrote: Dave Swegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... 2.x; we don't accept later stuff. Really? Yes. (I'm speaking as part of the new maintainer team, debian keyring maintenance team and as an ftp site grubber, not just for the fun of it) I recently retrieved a lot of PGP5-Debian-Devel keys (signed Mailing-List e-Mails, mainly new Developpers), so I got the impression that PGP5 wasn't officially discouraged. It's not discouraged, it's simply not allowed or usable. New maintainer don't accept PGP 5 keys; PGP 5 keys don't go in the Debian keyring and dinstall doesn't accept them. -- James
Re: Which PGP?
Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the status of gnupg? Not yet used in Debian. Is there a Debian package available? Yes, on non-US. -- James
Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam P. Harris) writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: around compiling all the i386 stuff for the other archs. But nobody goes around compiling the stuff from the other archs for i386! So if I suddenly do all my package development on Alpha, the Alpha will have the current versions, and perhaps the Sparc and m68k too, but i386 will be obsolete! Fix anybody? I have been compiling the enscript package for i386, which Hartmut Koptein maintains on powerpc. So there are people doing this, it just isn't widespread at the moment. Excellent. Is there some sort of automated mechanism like the other platforms have? (That is, packages get automatically build on these other platforms)? I believe people use quinn-diff plus dbuild plus god knows ? [Incidentally, m68k uses debbuild for humans and the build daemons use something even c00ler.] Quinn diff can't trivially handle i386, mostly because of binary-only NMUs, last time I checked. But since the only actual case of this phenomenon is still Hartmut (and Martin is, apparently, making his packages a non-issue), I haven't bothered to think about it very hard. If it really is a problem nowadays, I could, of course... [Off the top of my head: enforcing a new numbering policy for bin-only NMU's (e.g. 3.5-1 - 3.5-1.0.1 (and not 3.5-1.1)) would solve the problem and would also solve the problem of bin-only NMU's being clobbered by source NMU's; I did mean to propose this to debian-policy several months ago, but apparently I never got round to it] -- James
