Uploaded lsof 4.55-2 (m68k) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/m68k Build Daemon
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:45:03 +0200
Source: lsof
Binary: lsof
Architecture: m68k
Version: 4.55-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon (buildd4) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Jim Mintha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 lsof   - List open files.
Closes: 94922
Changes: 
 lsof (4.55-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add Provides for lsof-2.2 (Closes: Bug#94922)
Files: 
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Uploaded penguineyes 0.10-8 (m68k) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/m68k Build Daemon
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Date: Tue,  1 May 2001 17:38:51 -0300
Source: penguineyes
Binary: penguineyes penguineyes-gnome
Architecture: m68k
Version: 0.10-8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon (buildd4) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 penguineyes - A gnome version of xeyes
 penguineyes-gnome - A gnome version of xeyes
Closes: 94169
Changes: 
 penguineyes (0.10-8) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * templates: added German translation to debconf's template file,
 thanks to Sebastian Feltel [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Closes: #94169)
   * control: modified build-dependency, changed libdb2-dev to libdb3-dev
   * configure.in: made a little uggly hack to switch to -ldb3 as
 gnome-config --libs applets gives an erroneous output
Files: 
 7b18dba53f4204a5cd6bce63b96bac83 241642 x11 optional 
penguineyes_0.10-8_m68k.deb
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Uploaded gtkdiff 1.8.0-1 (m68k) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/m68k Build Daemon
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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:14:13 +0200
Source: gtkdiff
Binary: gtkdiff
Architecture: m68k
Version: 1.8.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon (buildd4) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Gregor Hoffleit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gtkdiff- A graphical text comparision tool
Closes: 89371
Changes: 
 gtkdiff (1.8.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version:
 - diff3(1) support. No directory diff3 support yet.
 - -o option to specify a merge output file.
 - Improved keyboard navigation (PageUp and PageDown).
 - Bug fixes.
 - The ~/.gnome/gtkdiff file has been changed.
 - gtkdiff-cvs and gtkdiff-rcs work with directory names as arguments
   (closes: #89371).
Files: 
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Uploaded krb5 1.2.2-4 (m68k) to non-us

2001-05-06 Thread buildd m68k user account
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Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:47:21 -0400
Source: krb5
Binary: krb5-kdc krb5-doc krb5-rsh-server libkrb5-dev libkrb53 krb5-ftpd
 krb5-clients krb5-user libkadm54 krb5-telnetd krb5-admin-server
Architecture: m68k
Version: 1.2.2-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: buildd m68k user account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 krb5-admin-server - Mit Kerberos master server (kadmind)
 krb5-clients - Secure replacements for ftp, telnet and rsh using MIT Kerberos
 krb5-ftpd  - Secure FTP server supporting MIT Kerberos
 krb5-kdc   - Mit Kerberos key server (KDC)
 krb5-rsh-server - Secure replacements for rshd and rlogind  using MIT Kerberos
 krb5-telnetd - Secure telnet server supporting MIT Kerberos
 krb5-user  - Basic programs to authenticate using MIT Kerberos
 libkadm54  - MIT Kerberos administration runtime libraries
 libkrb5-dev - Headers and development libraries for MIT Kerberos
 libkrb53   - MIT Kerberos runtime libraries
Closes: 94407
Changes: 
 krb5 (1.2.2-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix shared libraries to build with gcc not ld to properly include
 -lgcc symbols, closes: #94407
Files: 
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libkadm54_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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libkrb53_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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krb5-user_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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krb5-clients_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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krb5-rsh-server_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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krb5-ftpd_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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krb5-telnetd_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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krb5-kdc_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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krb5-admin-server_1.2.2-4_m68k.deb
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Uploaded cyrus-imapd 1.5.19-7 (m68k) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/m68k Build Daemon
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Date: Sun,  8 Apr 2001 16:31:40 +0200
Source: cyrus-imapd
Binary: cyrus-admin cyrus-pop3d cyrus-common cyrus-imapd cyrus-dev cyrus-nntp
Architecture: m68k
Version: 1.5.19-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/m68k Build Daemon (buildd4) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Michael-John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 cyrus-admin - CMU Cyrus mail system (administration tool)
 cyrus-common - CMU Cyrus mail system (common files)
 cyrus-dev  - CMU Cyrus mail system (developer files)
 cyrus-imapd - CMU Cyrus mail system (IMAP support)
 cyrus-nntp - CMU Cyrus mail system (NNTP support)
 cyrus-pop3d - CMU Cyrus mail system (POP3 support)
Closes: 90804
Changes: 
 cyrus-imapd (1.5.19-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Updated Build-Depends (Closes: Bug#90804).
Files: 
 fe25c10bb03140e7abc1409bdf034cc4 387242 mail extra 
cyrus-common_1.5.19-7_m68k.deb
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cyrus-imapd_1.5.19-7_m68k.deb
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Uploaded libterm-readkey-perl 2.14-2.1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sat,  5 May 2001 13:05:23 +0200
Source: libterm-readkey-perl
Binary: libterm-readkey-perl
Architecture: sparc
Version: 2.14-2.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libterm-readkey-perl - Change terminal modes, and perform non-blocking reads
Changes: 
 libterm-readkey-perl (2.14-2.1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Yet Another NMU. No changes. Did that because there was a
 sparc binary-only NMU 2.14-2 that caused it to not get
 through testing.
Files: 
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Uploaded rpm 4.0.2-7 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Fri,  4 May 2001 22:34:03 -0400
Source: rpm
Binary: librpm0-dev librpm0 rpm
Architecture: sparc
Version: 4.0.2-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 librpm0- RPM shared library
 librpm0-dev - RPM shared library, development kit
 rpm- Red Hat Package Manager
Closes: 95789
Changes: 
 rpm (4.0.2-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Build with new libpopt-dev to fix versoned libpopt0 dependancy problem.
 Closes: #95789
Files: 
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 3a9e7e9fb8169cab327c3799d19b2a5e 272004 libs optional librpm0_4.0.2-7_sparc.deb
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Uploaded marbles 0.0.010307-2 (sparc) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/SPARC Build Daemon
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Date: Fri,  4 May 2001 03:23:24 +0200
Source: marbles
Binary: marbles
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.0.010307-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Uwe Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 marbles- A game where you build figures out of colored marbles.
Closes: 96183
Changes: 
 marbles (0.0.010307-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * postinst: Changed 'chown owner.group' to 'chown owner:group', because, if
 using a dot as separator between owner and group, chown can fail if owner
 contains a dot.
   * Removed the unnecessary '.2' file which shouldn't have been there at all.
   * Recompiled against libsdl1.2. Updated Build-depends. Thanks to
 Robert Bihlmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] for suggesting this. Closes: #96183.
   * Updated Standards-Version to 3.5.4.0. No changes necessary.
   * Don't install AUTHORS into /usr/share/doc/marbles anymore, because
 /usr/share/doc/marbles/copyright already contains the name and email
 of the (upstream) author. Suggested by Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED].
   * Upload sponsored by Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Files: 
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Uploaded fileutils 4.1-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/SPARC Build Daemon
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Date: Wed,  2 May 2001 19:56:55 -0400
Source: fileutils
Binary: fileutils
Architecture: sparc
Version: 4.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 fileutils  - GNU file management utilities.
Changes: 
 fileutils (4.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version
Files: 
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Uploaded python-imaging 1.1.1.ds1-5 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sat,  5 May 2001 14:47:41 +0200
Source: python-imaging
Binary: python2-imaging-tk python-imaging-doc python-imaging-tk 
python-imaging-sane python2-imaging-sane python-imaging python2-imaging
Architecture: sparc
Version: 1.1.1.ds1-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 python-imaging - The Python Imaging Library.
 python-imaging-sane - The Python Imaging Library SANE interface.
 python-imaging-tk - The Python Imaging Library (Module with Tk support).
 python2-imaging - The Python Imaging Library.
 python2-imaging-sane - The Python Imaging Library SANE interface.
 python2-imaging-tk - The Python Imaging Library (Module with Tk support).
Closes: 72435
Changes: 
 python-imaging (1.1.1.ds1-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Took over maintainership (Closes: #72435)
Files: 
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python-imaging_1.1.1-4_sparc.deb
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Uploaded xscreensaver 3.32-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/SPARC Build Daemon
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Date: Fri,  4 May 2001 17:03:31 -0500
Source: xscreensaver
Binary: xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver
Architecture: sparc
Version: 3.32-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Larry Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 xscreensaver - Automatic screensaver for X
 xscreensaver-gl - GL(Mesa) screenhacks for xscreensaver
Closes: 963432
Changes: 
 xscreensaver (3.32-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version (Closes: #963432)
Files: 
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xscreensaver_3.32-1_sparc.deb
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Uploaded emacs20 20.7-6 (sparc) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/SPARC Build Daemon
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Date: Sat,  5 May 2001 09:47:40 -0500
Source: emacs20
Binary: emacs20 emacs20-el
Architecture: sparc
Version: 20.7-6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 emacs20- The GNU Emacs editor.
Closes: 45317 65017 74570 88231 95953
Changes: 
 emacs20 (20.7-6) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix improper usage of dpkg-statoverride and make sure movemail is set
 up right. (closes: #95953)
   * Fix bad manpage location in postinst update-alternatives call.
   * Fix bad .so in ctags manpage (closes: #88231, #45317, #65017, #74570)
Files: 
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Uploaded gnubg 0.02-4 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 18:24:40 +1200
Source: gnubg
Binary: gnubg-bearoffs gnubg
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.02-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Corrin Lakeland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gnubg  - A GTK/ascii backgammon program
 gnubg-bearoffs - Improved play for gnubg (gnu backgammon)
Changes: 
 gnubg (0.02-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * changed kgammon to kbackgammon
Files: 
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Uploaded fetchmail 5.8.1-4 (sparc) to ftp-master

2001-05-06 Thread Debian/SPARC Build Daemon
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Date: Sat,  5 May 2001 01:57:50 -0300
Source: fetchmail
Binary: fetchmailconf fetchmail
Architecture: sparc
Version: 5.8.1-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 fetchmail  - POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder
Closes: 95737
Changes: 
 fetchmail (5.8.1-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * The A Debian developer's way is fraught with peril release
   * New Dutch template, thanks Thomas J. Zeeman (closes: #95737)
   * Add debconf and initscript support to run the system-wide fetchmail
 daemon as user fetchmail.  It is safer, but it won't work if
 fetchmail is told to deliver to a MDA.  Unfortunately, now the
 initscript violates the KISS principle quite throughoutly.
Files: 
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Description: 
 shellutils - The GNU shell programming utilities.
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   * su suid on hurd (Closes: #78372)
   * Reformat stty(1) (Closes: #95816)
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 uqwk (2.17-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
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 saved ones on start, and after saving the current ones on stop. A
 notice also put into the defaults file as it might be recommended to
 do an ipchains -F after disabling the init script. Thanks to
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Description: 
 man-db - Display the on-line manual.
Closes: 5360 94642
Changes: 
 man-db (2.3.17.1-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Formally took over upstream maintenance. No release yet, but updated
 debian/copyright with new location of upstream source (and also Wilf's
 distribution site for old sources).
   * Generate man-db-manual.txt from man-db-manual.html at build time using
 html2text, rather than including it in the diff. (The next upstream
 release will have both generated from the original nroff source.)
   * Don't run configure in the clean rule, and ignore errors due to not
 finding the makefile. In normal autobuilds it just wastes time.
 .
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 done a long time ago.
   * If database information is found to be in an old format, then ignore it
 and use the filesystem instead. mandb will fix it up when it's run, as
 it is in the postinst (although this may well become optional soon).
   * Explicitly close the database if the version number is wrong, so that
 the above works.
   * Lower warnings about wrong version numbers to debugging messages.
   * All hail debootstrap for making the testing above so painless!
 .
   * Taught lexgrog how to detect grap and vgrind. Preprocessor lines (with
 '\, see man(1)) are no longer strictly necessary for these. It's still
 good practice to declare what preprocessors your man page needs if it
 uses any - even tbl - for compatibility with older versions of man.
   * History updates for the man pages.
   * Made accessdb check for /var/cache/man in preference to /var/catman, and
 updated the man page accordingly. (Incidentally, I'd have preferred it
 if the Japanese translator hadn't improvised text that wasn't in the
 English version, as now I don't know how to update it to keep up with
 this change. Please don't do this in future.)
   * Fixed the --test option to mandb (it really doesn't alter existing
 databases now), and documented it. It should be almost feasible to use
 it for lintian checks now, if need be (closes: #5360).
   * Generate a warning if displaying a page requires going through a whatis
 reference with no link in the filesystem. Supporting this is necessarily
 a major performance hog; see policy bug #94995 for more information.
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Re: how to implement a renamed package

2001-05-06 Thread David Whedon
 Thanks, - I know this and have done it previously in the case of
 zicq and krolden.  However, what I really wanted to know is, how
 this (or any other) procedure can take care that the users of the
 old package will get the renamed package automatically updated with
 'apt-get upgrade'? 

Oh, I see, the simple replaces and conflicts won't work there (I just tested it
on some dummy packages because I thought it would, but you are right, it
doesn't.)


 Otherwise, the new (renamed) upstream version
 could be easily overlooked and the users would just wonder why the
 old package is removed from the archives.
 As far as I know the standard procedure depends on the active
 selection of the renamed package, and the only replacement-effect is
 that it will remove the old package when it is installed. But the
 problem is: How shall the user know that the new package replaces
 another package with a different name?

I haven't found anything better than Ben Burton's suggestion of the dummy
package foo that depends on newfoo, that isn't very graceful, I'll admit.

David





Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Steven Hanley
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:20:21PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
 While we're at it: How on earth can I get rid of those
 
   Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
 
 messages? I use LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-1 to get Umlauts etc in mutt. 
 Unfortunately, this produces the above error message with lots of X
 programs - especially annoying when you use at(1); you always get a
 mail with the error message.

I got an error very similar to this. possibly that error, though not only for
mutt. Basically it was for any X program pretty much.

Back when I had an X installation I had compiled myself (4.0.2) on potato. I
had compiled form the instructions with the X source, and got that error with
all programs, it was not till I read the DRI compile howto page a few months
later and saw this instruction

in http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/DRIcompile.html
===
9.3 Update Locale Information 

To update your X locale information do the following: 

 cd ~/DRI-CVS/build/xc/nls
 ../config/util/xmkmf -a
 make
 make install
===

once I did that it all worked fine and I have not seen the message since.

See You
Steve

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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Itai Zukerman
  The thing is, kernel-headers should not be used at all unless you're
  compile glibc, or modules.  Anything else will break.
 
 So you're saying it's better to hardcode syscall numbers and stuff
 than using the kernel headers? Sre...

Also chiming in: Suppose my code reads a struct from a device file.
That struct is defined in a kernel header (not part of glibc).  You're
saying I should duplicate that header in my source rather than
build-depend on kernel-headers-X.X?  Hmmm...

-itai




Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:25:32AM -0400, Itai Zukerman wrote:
 
 Also chiming in: Suppose my code reads a struct from a device file.
 That struct is defined in a kernel header (not part of glibc).  You're
 saying I should duplicate that header in my source rather than
 build-depend on kernel-headers-X.X?  Hmmm...

Yes, because otherwise your code probably won't compile.
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netscape in unstable and mouse capture

2001-05-06 Thread Brian May
Hello,

As usual I has several windows open. In one window, I had a list
of options to select, which involved opening up a window with a list
of selections I can choice.

At the same time, Netscape popped up a dialog box for another window
you are now loading a secure page. However, the mouse was still
being captured by the pop up window, so I could not push the OK button.
At the same time, I couldn't make a selection in this pop-up window,
because Netscape required me to push OK at the first dialog box.

So feeling a bit irritated, I went to a text mode console, and killed
netscape with -9 (as the standard kill never seems to work for
Netscape). Now the mouse is still captured, and I can't access
anything other then this E-Mail program. (Is this a bug in
xserver-xfree86 that netscape is now dead, but the mouse is still
captured, or is that an unavoidable side affect of kill -9?)

Is there anyway of resolving this situation without killing the X server? 
Sorry, I am currently typing blind, as this window is hidden by another window, 
and I can't change it, so lets see how it comes out


-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks,

To reduce network load and speed up upgrades I have installed a 
caching proxy on one of my machines (using Apache). But it 
doesn't work very well. Packages are downloaded from http.us.debian.org, 
even if they should have been taken from the cache due to an 
upgrade of another machine just a few minutes ago.

The cache size is 300 MByte, so I doubt that this happens due to 
lack of space. And cheating Round Robin by using an IP address
instead of 'http.us.debian.org' didn't help either.

Does anybody out there know what is the problem here? Maybe its
the failure of Apache. What are your suggestions for running a
cache for apt-get?


Regards

Harri




Re: Installing debs in ~user/ or /usr/local?

2001-05-06 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Sat, 5 May 2001 22:35:58 -0400
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 05:47:21PM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote:
 
  On Sat, 5 May 2001 19:01:03 -0400 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   You should look into the S/390 port.
  
  The S/390 port is hardware specific. For obvious reasons (how many
Debian
  machines are S/390s?), this is inadequate. And anyway, I was referring
to a
  Linux kernel in a process (ie, it behaves just like any other program,
albeit
  rather large), not two Linux kernels running separately, which is what
I
  understand the S/390 port does.
 
 Hardware support is what is necessary to do what you described (in your
 previous message) at this time.  What you described above sounds more
like
 user-mode Linux.

That's what I was describing. I had forgotten the name. Thanks!

Regards,

Alex.




Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:54:17AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:

 Does anybody out there know what is the problem here? Maybe its
 the failure of Apache. What are your suggestions for running a
 cache for apt-get?

As far as I am aware, Apache's caching functionality is rather primitive.  Try
Squid.

-- 
 - mdz




Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Brian May
 Harald == Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Harald Hi folks, To reduce network load and speed up upgrades I
Harald have installed a caching proxy on one of my machines
Harald (using Apache). But it doesn't work very well. Packages
Harald are downloaded from http.us.debian.org, even if they
Harald should have been taken from the cache due to an upgrade of
Harald another machine just a few minutes ago.

Harald The cache size is 300 MByte, so I doubt that this happens
Harald due to lack of space. And cheating Round Robin by using an
Harald IP address instead of 'http.us.debian.org' didn't help
Harald either.

Have you told squid that it can use greater then 100MByte (the
default)?

(When I upgraded squid from unstable to stable, I told dpkg to install
the new config file, with the low default limit. squid was
automatically restarted, and it proceeded to remove files from my
cache.  Ooops. Something you have to watch out for)

Harald Does anybody out there know what is the problem here? 
Harald Maybe its the failure of Apache. What are your suggestions
Harald for running a cache for apt-get?

In my squid file, I put in

refresh_pattern \.deb$  43200   100%43200
refresh_pattern Release$720 100%720
refresh_pattern Packages.gz$720 100%720
refresh_pattern Sources.gz$ 720 100%720

to try and eliminate this problem. Seems to work fine. So far...
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Debconf and substitution in long description

2001-05-06 Thread Simon Richter
On Sat, 5 May 2001, Joey Hess wrote:

  The first substitution worked, the second didn't. I suspect this may be
  because I'm running testing instead of unstable at home. I'll try unstable
  debconf now.

 That sounds similar to a bug I fixed in 0.9.36.

Indeed the version from unstable works. I'll make the package depend on
debconf = 0.9.36 then.

   Simon

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Re: Installing debs in ~user/ or /usr/local?

2001-05-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:15:58PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:

 On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 10:00:14PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote:

 workaround: just extract the data.tar.gz where you want it.
 
 dpkg-home () {
 [ $1 ] || { echo usage: $0 deb_to_install.deb [dir_to_install]
 return 1 }
 ( cd ${2:-$HOME}
 ar p $1 data.tar.gz | tar xzf - )
 }

Or simply:

dpkg --extract deb dir

-- 
 - mdz




Re: how to implement a renamed package

2001-05-06 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hello,

On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 10:23:47PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote:
 Hi.. I've never done this myself, but I'm sure I've seen it happen in the 
 past:  If you're replacing foo with newfoo, you upload a new dummy package 
 foo that contains absolutely nothing, but depends on newfoo.  This way 
 apt-get upgrade will get the latest (empty) foo and thus drag in newfoo with 
 it.

Many thanks. That is probably the best solution currently possible.
I will do it this way, and will request the removal of the dummy package from
the archives after a sufficiently long transition period.

Cheers,
Guenter

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RE: netscape in unstable and mouse capture

2001-05-06 Thread Carlos Laviola
Well, I don't know the solution for that, but one thing I know for sure now:
you're a hell of a touch typist :)

On 06-May-2001 Brian May wrote:
 Hello,
 
 As usual I has several windows open. In one window, I had a list
 of options to select, which involved opening up a window with a list
 of selections I can choice.
 
 At the same time, Netscape popped up a dialog box for another window
 you are now loading a secure page. However, the mouse was still
 being captured by the pop up window, so I could not push the OK button.
 At the same time, I couldn't make a selection in this pop-up window,
 because Netscape required me to push OK at the first dialog box.
 
 So feeling a bit irritated, I went to a text mode console, and killed
 netscape with -9 (as the standard kill never seems to work for
 Netscape). Now the mouse is still captured, and I can't access
 anything other then this E-Mail program. (Is this a bug in
 xserver-xfree86 that netscape is now dead, but the mouse is still
 captured, or is that an unavoidable side affect of kill -9?)
 
 Is there anyway of resolving this situation without killing the X server?
 Sorry, I am currently typing blind, as this window is hidden by another
 window, and I can't change it, so lets see how it comes out
 
 
 -- 
 Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

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Re: netscape in unstable and mouse capture

2001-05-06 Thread Brian May
 Carlos == Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Carlos Well, I don't know the solution for that, but one thing I
Carlos know for sure now: you're a hell of a touch typist :)

Well... It was only the last paragraph which was completely hidden...

Ooops. Perhaps I shouldn't have said that grin.
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Brian May wrote:
 
 Have you told squid that it can use greater then 100MByte (the
 default)?
 

I haven't tried Squid yet, cause Apache was already in place.
Of course I will try it.

Many thanx for your configuration hints.


Regards

Harri




Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Alexander Koch
On Sat, 5 May 2001 10:57:43 -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
 Just use LC_CTYPE=de_DE. It'll work fine in mutt. (The problem is, if
 I remember correctly, that X uses ISO8859-1, without the first dash.)

Ok, but now I am confused...

LC_CTYPE=de_DE
LANG=de_DE
LC_MESSAGES=C

Should give me german umlauts and the prompts/messages
should still be like before, right? Do I really not have
to set ISO-8859-1 somewhere?

Alexander

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Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Brian May
 Steve == Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Steve However,

Steve $ LANG=hr_HR LC_COLLATE=C ls -A
Steve .A  .B  .C  .a  .b  .c  A  B  C  a  b  c

Steve which was Arthur's point, I believe.

That means you can't have ls sort in a different order though (as
defined by native language) without messing up the hidden files.

IMHO, it seems that ls should (perhaps with a special option which can
be aliased to be the default) treat files with a leading . as special,
and put these before the other files. After all, the leading . is not
defined by the language being used, rather it is a hack used by many
user level programs that consider the file a hidden file.

(sorry if I missed the point of all of this)
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]




debian.org

2001-05-06 Thread penny





Hello,
I hope you can help 
me.
May I ask if your 
company/organization put MS Word files on your CD's?

We are the sole 
distributors of icWord, which isthe Microsoft word viewer for the Mac. 
Our SW allows Mac users to view, copy and print Word documents without 
having to purchase or use Microsoft Word.
icWord viewer is 
also designed for CD distribution purposes.

Do you think you could 
find interest in such a viewer?
If you have any 
questions please feel free to contact me.
Your opinionwill 
be appreciated.
Thank you,
Penny B.

Panergy 
Ltd.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:29:58PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
 On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:25:32AM -0400, Itai Zukerman wrote:
  Also chiming in: Suppose my code reads a struct from a device file.
  That struct is defined in a kernel header (not part of glibc).  You're
  saying I should duplicate that header in my source rather than
  build-depend on kernel-headers-X.X?  Hmmm...
 
 Yes, because otherwise your code probably won't compile.

... when the kernel interface changed. Now tell me what is better - 
the package not building with the changed kernel or not working after
being installed at x*1000 machines?

cu
Torsten


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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 03:06:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Ben False. That is the very thing I want to alleviate (people using kernel
  Ben headers from the libc6-dev package).
   However, that is what 99% of the programs out there need to
  do, since they really are not dependent on the specifics of kernel
  structures, and we should discourage un needed dependency on kernel
  structures. 

All I want is to be able to build ipmasqadm... (It needs ip_masq.h,
which used to be in libc6-dev, but isn't any longer)

   Now, for the 1% or so of the packages that really are wedded
  to kernel headers, that is correct. But then these packages should
  not run on n a kernel version that they were compiled for. (HINT: if
  your program can run on a kernel different from the one you compiled
  for, the chances are that you do not need specific kernel headers; at
  most, you need to say headers from a kernel later than blah). 

Sure, fine, wonderful. How do I do this, exactly?

Cheers,
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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Herbert Xu
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:

 All I want is to be able to build ipmasqadm... (It needs ip_masq.h,
 which used to be in libc6-dev, but isn't any longer)

For a legacy application like ipmasqadm, the solution is to simply copy
ip_masq.h from a 2.2 kernel tree and be done with it.
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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 10:43:25AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
 On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:29:58PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:

  Yes, because otherwise your code probably won't compile.
 
 ... when the kernel interface changed. Now tell me what is better - 

Nope, they won't compile at all because kernel headers are not designed
to be used in user space programs.  On architectures like the alpha, there
are definitions such as current which will stop any programs that include
headers which in turn include it from compiling.

 the package not building with the changed kernel or not working after
 being installed at x*1000 machines?

What is better is a sane local header that works with all kernels.
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Re: Why why why!!???

2001-05-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 04 May 2001 18:27, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:33:58AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
  Oh crap.  Ok guys it's been a lot of fun.  I really enjoyed working with
  you and meeting some of you in person but now that Debian is going to
  be shut down I'll have to look for another operating system.
 
  Does anyone know if Microsoft Windows is any good?

 This should probably not have been sent to the person that originally
 sent in the erroneous hack notification.  We can make fun of their
 idiocy all we want, but we shouldn't email them personally with it.

When they repeatedly respond abusively when it is explained what they did 
wrong then why not send it to them?

Also do you really think we should make publically fun of people without 
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Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Patrick von der Hagen
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:27:16AM +, Alexander Koch wrote:
[...]
 Should give me german umlauts and the prompts/messages
 should still be like before, right? Do I really not have
 to set ISO-8859-1 somewhere?
You have to set it in /etc/locale.gen. Make sure that there is a line
de_DE ISO-8859-1 without # in front of it. Then call locale-gen.
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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Herbert Xu wrote:

...
  the package not building with the changed kernel or not working after
  being installed at x*1000 machines?

 What is better is a sane local header that works with all kernels.


I maintain util-linux that is a user space package that needs many kernel
headers (and the package in unstable compiles only with 2.4 kernel
headers). I do currently use the kernel haeaders libc6-dev ships.  Would
it be the right solution to copy the 2.4.4 kernel headers into the package
and use them?

cu
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Re: debian.org

2001-05-06 Thread Rahul Jain
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:42:28AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I hope you can help me. 
 
 May I ask if your company/organization put MS Word files on your CD's?
 
  
 
 We are the sole distributors of icWord, which is the Microsoft?? word viewer 
 for the Mac. Our SW allows Mac users to view, copy and print Word documents 
 without having to purchase or use Microsoft Word.
 
 icWord?? viewer is also designed for CD distribution purposes.
 
  
 
 Do you think you could find interest in such a viewer?
 
 If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.
 
 Your opinion will be appreciated.
 

How interesting. I wonder what drugs posessed them to think we'd be
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Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:27:16AM +, Alexander Koch wrote:
  Just use LC_CTYPE=de_DE. It'll work fine in mutt. (The problem is, if
  I remember correctly, that X uses ISO8859-1, without the first dash.)
 
 Ok, but now I am confused...
 
 LC_CTYPE=de_DE
 LANG=de_DE
 LC_MESSAGES=C
 
 Should give me german umlauts and the prompts/messages
 should still be like before, right? Do I really not have
 to set ISO-8859-1 somewhere?

Yes, because the locale alias file will assume ISO-8859-1 automatically.

% grep ^de_DE'  ' /usr/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias
de_DE   de_DE.ISO8859-1

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Does BTS clean old bugs?

2001-05-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved.

Thanks,

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Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Harald Dunkel wrote:
 
 Brian May wrote:
 
  Have you told squid that it can use greater then 100MByte (the
  default)?
 
 
 I haven't tried Squid yet, cause Apache was already in place.
 Of course I will try it.
 

I've got the same effect using Squid. When I tried to install
Xpilot (just for testing of course :-), then some files (not 
all!) were not cached, as it seems. Of course I checked the 
cache size, the maximum file size, etc.

???


Regards

Harri




Re: Does BTS clean old bugs?

2001-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:00:56PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
 On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
 up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
 I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved.

They aren't, that sentence is unclear, a bug has already been filed.

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Re: Does BTS clean old bugs?

2001-05-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:00:56PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
 On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
 up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
 I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved.

they are archived.  thats what the `search archived bugs' option in
the search page is for.  it would be quite a mess if bugs were listed
on packages for eternity after they are closed. 

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Re: Does BTS clean old bugs?

2001-05-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Josip Rodin wrote:
 
 On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:00:56PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
  On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
  up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
  I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved.
 
 They aren't, that sentence is unclear, a bug has already been filed.

Yes, it is a bit ambiguous indeed.

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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 12:28:32PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 
 I maintain util-linux that is a user space package that needs many kernel
 headers (and the package in unstable compiles only with 2.4 kernel
 headers). I do currently use the kernel haeaders libc6-dev ships.  Would
 it be the right solution to copy the 2.4.4 kernel headers into the package
 and use them?

It needs to be looked at on a case-by-case basis.  In general though,
if you need access to something that is not provided by glibc, you'll
have to setup a local header file and maintain it yourself as new
kernel releases come out.

I wouldn't expect the Debian maintainer to have to go through this
though, as this is something that must be dealt with in the upstream
util-linux package.
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libggi2 and testing?

2001-05-06 Thread Drew Parsons
Is there any reason why libggi2 from unstable is not in testing?  All
architectures have now been compiled, being all present and up-to-date in
the pool, but update-excuses gives no hints as to why it hasn't been
accepted in testing.  It (update-output) mumbles something incoherent about
the package on alpha, but it's now been built for alpha.

I ask because my package mirrormagic seems to be held up by libsdl, and
libsdl appears to be held up by libggi2.

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Re: libggi2 and testing?

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:27:13PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
 Is there any reason why libggi2 from unstable is not in testing?  All
 architectures have now been compiled, being all present and up-to-date in
 the pool, but update-excuses gives no hints as to why it hasn't been
 accepted in testing.  It (update-output) mumbles something incoherent about
 the package on alpha, but it's now been built for alpha.

Yup, but the version on alpha depends libc6.1 = 2.2.3-1 or so, and
libc6 2.2.3-1 doesn't build on i386...

Cheers,
aj

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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Herbert Xu wrote:

  I maintain util-linux that is a user space package that needs many kernel
  headers (and the package in unstable compiles only with 2.4 kernel
  headers). I do currently use the kernel haeaders libc6-dev ships.  Would
  it be the right solution to copy the 2.4.4 kernel headers into the package
  and use them?

 It needs to be looked at on a case-by-case basis.  In general though,
 if you need access to something that is not provided by glibc, you'll
 have to setup a local header file and maintain it yourself as new
 kernel releases come out.

What do you suggest in my specific case with util-linux?

 I wouldn't expect the Debian maintainer to have to go through this
 though, as this is something that must be dealt with in the upstream
 util-linux package.

You mean every upstream source should ship it's own kernel headers?
That's ugly and it reminds me that libtool does the same (every program
tht uses libtool ships it's own copy of libtool) - and every time I
compile a program that uses libtool under NetBSD/sparc-1.5 I must do a
libtoolize --force to prevent a miscompilation of the libraries - it
would be much more easy when the programs would use a locally installed
libtool instead.


cu
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Re: Chrony mailing list needs a home

2001-05-06 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:48:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Joey Hess writes:
  Well I guess you could use sourceforge.
 
 I assume that the author has his reasons for not wanting to use
 Sourceforge.

I believe sunsite.auc.dk does provide services to opensource projects as
well, you may want to take a look at that.

regards,

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Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:54:17AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
 Does anybody out there know what is the problem here? Maybe its
 the failure of Apache. What are your suggestions for running a
 cache for apt-get?

Umm... how about apt-proxy?

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ITP: wmfinder -- A graphical file manager for WindowMaker

2001-05-06 Thread Simon Richter
retitle 80278 ITP: wmfinder -- A graphical file manager for WindowMaker
thanks

Hi,

I intend to package wmfinder, which is a Qt based file manager for
WindowMaker. The packaging will take some time, as the program currently
uses Qt 1.45, which has been dropped. I'm talking to upstream about
converting it to Qt 2.

Program home page is http://www.imago.ro/wmfinder , license is GPL 2.

   Simon

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Re: About native packages

2001-05-06 Thread Rob Browning
Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's different when the Debian maintainer is also upstream. It is argued
 that then there's only one `debianization'. That's all right but please
 consider the following cases before making your package Debian native:
 - Do you want to release a new upstream version to fix a missing build
   dependency?

And further-

  What if your program outlives your interest in it?  i.e. what if
  someone else takes it over upstream eventually, and they're not a
  Debian developer?

I tend to think that in many cases, preserving the upstream/Debian
distinction is wise, even if not totally necessary ATM.

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A Quebecer in France.

2001-05-06 Thread Fabien Ninoles
Sorry, this message is for people currently living in France where
I'm going this summer.  I'm a little too much lazy to translate it
currently and I expect the people interested will be able to read it
in French.  Thanks!

===

Bon, c'est juste un email envoyé sur plusieurs ML pour vous
avertir de ma visite en France du 23 juin au 9 juillet.

Je serai sur Paris du 23 au 25 juin, puis ensuite LaRochelle du 25 au 28
juin, suivi d'Audenges (Bassin d'Arcachon) le 28 et 29 juin pour
finalement terminé mon voyage à Bordeaux à partir du 30 (avec la
conférence sur Debian et le Logiciel Libre).

J'ai bien hâte de rencontrer tous ces visages électroniques, d'échanger
des poignées de mains et d'intéressantes discussions, et je serais aussi
disponible pour signer vos clefs PGP pour les intéressés.

Merci et à la prochaine,
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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Anthony == Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:

 Anthony All I want is to be able to build ipmasqadm... (It needs ip_masq.h,
 Anthony which used to be in libc6-dev, but isn't any longer)

 % cp /path/to/old/kerhnel/source/include/linux/ipmasq.h ipmasq.h

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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Itai == Itai Zukerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Itai Why not have the default KSRC be /usr/src/kernel-headers-X.X?  I
 Itai think that's what Ben suggested...

Are you aware that that is what we used to do, circa libc5
 days? And that we have moved away from that, for all the reasons that
 have been posted here several time before? (look at README.headers in
 the kernel-package docs for a blow by blow account). 

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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Aaron == Aaron Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Aaron So you're saying it's better to hardcode syscall numbers and stuff
 Aaron than using the kernel headers? Sre...

We already have a process for packages that actually do need
 kernel headers, and are thus dependent on particular kernel
 versions. Are you also sure you have considered the impact of using
 one set of kernel structures, and linking with a libc that uses
 perhaps an incompatible set of kernel-structures? 

Kernel modules are loaded into the kernel, and thus are in the
 kernel's context, but user space modules, linked with libc, are
 playing with fire when they assume that the incompatible kernel
 structures they have been compiled with are not going to cause
 problems. 

If your package does meet the criteria, it is extremely rare,
 and I do not think it is wirth the infrastructure to cater to the
 very few packages that shall meet these criteria.

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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Adrian == Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Adrian I maintain util-linux that is a user space package that needs
 Adrian many kernel headers (and the package in unstable compiles
 Adrian only with 2.4 kernel headers). I do currently use the kernel
 Adrian haeaders libc6-dev ships.  Would it be the right solution to
 Adrian copy the 2.4.4 kernel headers into the package and use them?

Depends on how often the structures you depend on change. I
 would assume that you are OK with any fairly recent kernel includes,
 such as those provided by libc. If not, I would expect to see
 util-linux-2.4.4 out there soon. 

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Re: Installing debs in ~user/ or /usr/local?

2001-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:33:45PM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote:
 I'm beginning to think a better solution would be an operating
 system within an operating system, and let the user play in her `own'
 system, and while it for all intents and purposes seems to be running on bare
 metal, it really is a virtual machine. That would be quite fantastic for doing
 normally privileged operations without a security risk, though.

In the Hurd, any user can boot a sub-Hurd system off a root filesystem
image. (root means root filesystem, has nothing to do with the user root).

In this sub-Hurd, it appears that the user has indeed control over a new
instance of the Hurd operating system.  The root filesystem can contain
different software than the default system.  From the default system, the
processes run under the id of the user, but within the sub-Hurd, the user
can acquire super-user privileges (uid 0).  No permissions leak outside the
sub Hurd.

sub-Hurds can be nested of course.

There is currently no virtualization implemented: All direct kernel accesses
(hardware access etc) are simply forwarded to the systems kernel. However,
the kernel is used for few things: As a microkernel based system, most of
the functionality lives in user space kernels (which are duplicated in the
sub Hurd).

However, the boot process (the command used to boot the sub-Hurd) can
intervene such kernel calls and virtualize them.  This is something that
interested people can work on.  Indeed, you can implement whatever
functionality you want.  Again, systems security is strictly preserved by
the default servers (modulo bugs ;).

 For that to work, you'd also need to set up a base system for each and
 every developer. That would waste a lot of disk space in a hurry. Perhaps
 copy-on-write file links would do the trick here, allowing root to keep a 
 central
 repository of a prototypical base system, and allowing each developer to 
 change it at
 will,

For the Hurd we plan something called shadowfs.  shadowfs will allow to
stack filesystems in a single view.  For example, you could join a read-only
ext2fs filesystem and a tmpfs (in RAM) over it.  Files in the tmpfs would
shade the underlying ext2fs files, and new files would be created in the
tmpfs, too.  This way you get the copy-on-write trick you imagined.

But that's not all.  Ideally, such a shadowfs implementation would merge
multiple filesystem trees, for example the system tree (ro) plus a user
provided root filesystem.  Then you can use this shadowfs to boot a
sub-Hurd from, running from the default system usually but running from your
files where they exist.  This way you can test new servers in the sub Hurd
with minimal cost.  Oh, did I mention that all sub Hurd processes appear in
the parents sub Hurd process table? This way you can attach gdb to them
(from the outside) and debug them like any other process (even
system-critical servers).  Of course, if the sub Hurd crashes, the parent
systems are not affected.

 but without wasting disk space unless something actually changes. Of course,
 that means big changes in the kernel's VFS code and possibly elsewhere, but
 copy-on-write links would be way cool for other reasons as well[1-2].

In Linux, yes.  This would be close to impossible to implement securely
without rewriting major parts of the kernel (possibly all).  The Hurd
provides the substantial features and design paradigms today (there are
bugs, and there are missing features like full virtualization and shadowfs,
but booting a sub Hurd for example works).

 [3] I understand Microsoft has done something like that in one of their
 operating systems or another. It was on Slashdot a while back. Most people
 said that what they `invented' are really just symlinks, but the major
 difference is that they're copy-on-write, whereas writing to a symlink
 on Unix will write to the file pointed to, but overwriting a symlink will
 overwrite the symlink, not the file pointed to this; is a
 pseudo-copy-on-write behavior, but not real copy-on-write like what MS
 did. Of course, they attached some lame marketroid buzzword TLA to it,
 but `copy-on-write link' works for me. ;)

If you want such a thing, you can implement this as a Hurd filesystem server
and run it as a user. You don't need to recompile, install and boot a new
kernel.  You just attach your server to some directory (mount if you
want), and go.  You'd probably violate some POSIX requirements with such a
thing, but you don't need to limit yourself to it.  The Hurd is a POSIX
system in its default configuration, but the idea of the Hurd is that any
user can extend the system in such ways you describe (and others) without
asking anyone.

For the far future, giving shadowfs, I'd be interested in a simple packaging
system which allows to install multiple version of a single package, and
which allows users to install packages.  Basically, users packages would be
mirrored over the root filesystem with shadowfs, and a sub Hurd 

Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi,

I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the
following steps:

- Packages with Standards-Version = 3.0 must follow the FHS.
  Policy version 3.0.0.0 was released 30 Jun 1999 and I consider this
  enough time for every maintainer to switch to at least this
  Standards-Version. However, there are still 253 packages in unstable
  (including contrib, non-free and non-US/*) that have an older
  Standards-Version in the control file. The list (sorted by maintainer)
  follows below. Some of the maintainers are perhaps MIA, others are
  definitely not. If noone has a good argument against this I'll send
  RC bugs in one week to force the upgrade of the Standards-Version.

- A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks.


List of packages with Standards-Version  3.0

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Adam Di Carlo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   onshore-timesheet
Adam Klein ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   ncompress
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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Adrian Bunk wrote:
 ...
  Oliver Elphick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   libpgsql

This package is obsolete and should not be included in any release.

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 Adrian Bunk wrote:
  ...
   Oliver Elphick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   libpgsql

 This package is obsolete and should not be included in any release.

Please ask the ftp admins to remove the package from unstable (file a bug
against ftp.debian.org).

cu
Adrian

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Voltaire will be unavailable for a bit

2001-05-06 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Voltaire is about to move temporarily across the country.  It should be
available again in about a week; it might take as long as two.

Debian/PowerPC may languish a little bit in its absence :(

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:31:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:

 I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the
 following steps:

 - Packages with Standards-Version = 3.0 must follow the FHS.

Didn't we already have this discussion?  The Standards-Version field
is not a reliable indication of much of anything.  I strongly object
to removing packages because of what amount to cosmetic issues, and an
incorrect Standards-Version (one that doesn't reflect the version of
policy that the package _actually_ complies with) is really no more
than a cosmetic issue (no software actually uses that field).

I only have a few of the listed packages installed on my system, but
most of the ones I checked did indeed use /usr/share/doc (and
/usr/share/man, in those cases where man pages were present).  I
suspect that this is due to the use of debhelper, but anyway

Checking for FHS violations should be done by checking for FHS
violations, not by checking an unreliable and all-but-meaningless
field in some configuration file.

(Plus, as a side issue, by a strict reading of the FHS, we should be
using /usr/share/menu rather than /usr/lib/menu, which means RC bugs
against nearly every package in the system!)  :-)

 - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks.

This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition.
Now, if we're really down to 253 packages that use /usr/doc (with no
symlink), then maybe it's time.  But, unfortunately, that number, 253,
measures *claimed* compliance, not actual compliance.

Now, my poking around suggests that there are actually far *fewer*
than 253 packages still using /usr/doc.  And if that's true, then it's
definitely time to remove the symlinks.  But it might be nice to have
some hard facts, rather than speculation based on unreliable claims
made by inattentive package maintainers.

 Ben Gertzfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  wmifs
 Eric Leblanc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])groovycd
 Eric Leblanc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])zangband
 Gene McCulley ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  xcopilot
 Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen a ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   spellcast
 Luis Francisco Gonzalez ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  xgammon
 Rob Browning ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) emacs20
 Robert Woodcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) cd-discid
 Takuo KITAME ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   bbdb
 Vincent Renardias ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   gdb
 Vincent Renardias ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   gnumeric
 Wichert Akkerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   sed

I inspected these packages.  Only emacs20 lacked the /usr/share/doc
directory.  If that ratio holds true (which I doubt), then we've only
got 21 packages left to transition! :-)

cheers
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mailq's fake output

2001-05-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Another change in sendmail = another little problem :)))

Seriously: few days ago mailq isn't runnable by normal user, as Richard
told me.
Now the things are changed, if an user (even if he is a member of mail
group) run mailq he always get:

  /var/spool/mqueue is empty
 Total requests: 0

even if there are mails in the sendmail queue !!!

I'm talking about sendmail 8.11.3+8.12.0.Beta7-6, it this problem fixed
in -7 version ?

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Arthur Korn
Chris Waters schrieb:
 (Plus, as a side issue, by a strict reading of the FHS, we should be
 using /usr/share/menu rather than /usr/lib/menu, which means RC bugs
 against nearly every package in the system!)  :-)

/usr/lib/menu is not shareable, since it would be most confusing
to have a menu item that just doesn't work, because the package
it belongs to is installed on another machine with which
/usr/share is shared.

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote:

  I want to suggest to finish the FHS transition. This includes the
  following steps:

  - Packages with Standards-Version = 3.0 must follow the FHS.

 Didn't we already have this discussion?  The Standards-Version field
 is not a reliable indication of much of anything.  I strongly object

Policy says:

--  snip  --

 In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must
 specify the most recent version number of this policy document with
 which your package complies.  The current version number is 3.5.4.0.

 This information may be used to file bug reports automatically if your
 package becomes too much out of date.

--  snip  --

 to removing packages because of what amount to cosmetic issues, and an

Where did I say that I want to remove the packages???
I said that I want to send bug reports.

 incorrect Standards-Version (one that doesn't reflect the version of
 policy that the package _actually_ complies with) is really no more
 than a cosmetic issue (no software actually uses that field).

you must specify the most recent version number of this policy document
with which your package complies: You must upgrade this field when your
package complies with a more recent policy - and when your package does
already comply with a more recent policy nothing more than an upload with
an updated Standards-Version field is needed.

 I only have a few of the listed packages installed on my system, but
 most of the ones I checked did indeed use /usr/share/doc (and
 /usr/share/man, in those cases where man pages were present).  I
 suspect that this is due to the use of debhelper, but anyway

 Checking for FHS violations should be done by checking for FHS
 violations, not by checking an unreliable and all-but-meaningless
 field in some configuration file.
...

See above: I want to file a RC bug either because
a) the package follows a too old policy or
b) because it violates the _must_ in the polict that says that the
   Standard-Version must get updated.

a) needs discussion whether we consider packages not following the FHS
too much out of date, b) is a violation of the policy that doesn't need
discussion - that means the only question is whether anyone disagrees that
we want to have all packages in unstable to follow the FHS.

 cheers

cu
Adrian

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menu and FHS (was Re: Finishing the FHS transition)

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:13:26PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote:

 /usr/lib/menu is not shareable

Yes, it is.  There's a reason why each entry starts:

  ?package(name)

Anyway, that's not really relevent -- /usr/share is for
architecture-independent static files.  The FHS doesn't grant
exceptions for files that would cause breakage if they actually were
shared between different machines.

cheers
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Re: Bug#96102: ITP: serpento -- dictd server written in python

2001-05-06 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 12:24:56PM +0200, I wrote:
 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:19:29AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
  * Radovan Garabik 
  
  |  Can it be run from inetd? I'm really dying for a dict server that can be
  | 
  | More or less, yes, it can, but currently it is a bit unusable
  | since it takes forever to start (it has to parse the index file(s),
  | and parsing is written in python - rewritting it in C is on my TODO list)
  
  Why not just using cPickle and smart caching?  It's pretty fast, ime.
  
 
 well, that is a _really_ good idea, shame it did not occur to me :-)
 I am going to experiment with it a bit
 

And it's done - using cPickle cut down startup time from 15 seconds
to about 4 sec.
Then I changed initialization to parse/unpickle index files only 
when the database is accessed for the first time, and 
startup time went down to about 1 second for biggest dictionary
(webster). All on PIII 600 MHz with plenty of memory (i.e. 
all necessary files were already in buffer cache)

Package is in incoming, you have to set up manually inetd.conf if
you want to run it from inetd (this will be improved later)

Also, it includes its own dictdconfig now, so automatic configuration
to include all installed databases should work.

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:31:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
   If noone has a good argument against this I'll send
   RC bugs in one week to force the upgrade of the Standards-Version.

The packages inetutils, gnumach, hurd and mig are only applicable to the Hurd,
and we have not determined yet how much and what of the FHS is applicable to
us. Most of it is, but we might need an appendix for the Hurd just as there is
an appendix for Linux.

In any way, I will bump the number if it makes you happy on my next update,
and Jeff Bailey took over maintenance of GNU inetutils, he is
preparing an update, but I wouldn't consider an old standards
version a release critical bug.  You will have to bother and check each
package individually if there is actually a violation of current policy or
a critical bug that warrants a release critical bug report.

 GNU Hurd Maintainers (bug-hurd@gnu.org)  gnumach
 GNU Hurd Maintainers (bug-hurd@gnu.org)  hurd
 GNU Hurd Maintainers (bug-hurd@gnu.org)  mig
 Marcus Brinkmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED])inetutils

Thanks,
Marcus

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 Policy says:
 
 --  snip  --
 
  In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must
  specify the most recent version number of this policy document with
  which your package complies.  The current version number is 3.5.4.0.
 
  This information may be used to file bug reports automatically if your
  package becomes too much out of date.
 
 --  snip  --

Ok, please ignore my other mail.

Marcus

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Who uses ccmalloc?

2001-05-06 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 19:31:43 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   ccmalloc

To the best of my knowledge, there's no upstream for ccmalloc anymore. I'm
not using it myself, and there are several (possibly better) alternatives
available. I'm therefore pondering dropping it, unless someone can convince
me it's still being used.

Ray
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on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go
where no data has gone before. 




Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-05-06 Thread Rob Browning
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How about an ordinary meta-package named emacs?

That might be OK.  Bear in mind that there used to be a real package
named emacs, though, so you should be wary of breaking upgrades from
very old systems.

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Re: libggi2 and testing?

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Anthony Towns wrote:

 On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:27:13PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote:
  Is there any reason why libggi2 from unstable is not in testing?  All
  architectures have now been compiled, being all present and up-to-date in
  the pool, but update-excuses gives no hints as to why it hasn't been
  accepted in testing.  It (update-output) mumbles something incoherent about
  the package on alpha, but it's now been built for alpha.

 Yup, but the version on alpha depends libc6.1 = 2.2.3-1 or so, and
 libc6 2.2.3-1 doesn't build on i386...

After two build failures (because of broken gcc and fileutils) it did
finally build and I did upload it to incoming.

If no new problems arise and Ben doesn't upload a new version it will go
into testing in four days.

 Cheers,
 aj

cu
Adrian

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-May-01, 14:27 (CDT), Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Policy says:

 --  snip  --

  In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must
  specify the most recent version number of this policy document with
  which your package complies.  The current version number is 3.5.4.0.

  This information may be used to file bug reports automatically if your
  package becomes too much out of date.

 --  snip  --

Uhh, when did that become a must? In 3.5.2 the first paragraph
says

 You should specify the most recent version of the packaging
 standards with which your package complies in the source package's
 `Standards-Version' field.

Even in 3.5.4, towards the end of that section it says
  
 You should regularly, and especially if your package has become out
 of date, check for the newest Policy Manual available and update   
 your package, if necessary. When your package complies with the new
 standards you should update the Standards-Version source package   
 field and release it.

It says nothing about uploading just to notify that you are still
compliant.

Hmmm, I don't remember a proposal to change this; I suspect the must
slipped in during the recent rewrites, and as Chris Waters pointed out, it
is certainly inconsistent with the intent of the field according to recent
discussion.

 you must specify the most recent version number of this policy document
 with which your package complies: You must upgrade this field when your
 package complies with a more recent policy - and when your package does
 already comply with a more recent policy nothing more than an upload with
 an updated Standards-Version field is needed.

Nonsense. I'm not going to upload new versions of packages simply to
change that field. Lot's of policy updates have zero effect on most
packages, and I doubt many of our users want to spend the time and
money downloading and installing a new version of a package to confirm
that.  I would strongly object if (for example) Branden suddenly started
uploading new versions of the X packages every time a new version of
policy was released.

I'll wait a few days for one of the policy editors to say Oops, that
was an accident; if that's not the case, I need to propose an ammendent
that clarifies reality, so that Adrian doesn't get mislead again :-).

Steve

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Re: Who uses ccmalloc?

2001-05-06 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 10:28:56PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
 On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 19:31:43 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
  J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   ccmalloc
 
 To the best of my knowledge, there's no upstream for ccmalloc anymore. I'm
 not using it myself, and there are several (possibly better) alternatives
 available. I'm therefore pondering dropping it, unless someone can convince
 me it's still being used.


It is maintained upstream, just moved a bit...:
http://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/biere/projects/ccmalloc

Last change(webpage): 5 Feb 01
Version: 0.3.4 (dated 5 Mar 01)

I still use it sparingly, I'm no expert with it. Think I use dmalloc the
most, possible electric-fence as well.

Gordon Sadler




Re: Bug#96224: libgmp3: Move documentation in the -dev package

2001-05-06 Thread Christian Marillat
 DS == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

DS I can be convinced on either count. How would you feel about my presenting
DS this issue to the developers at large, with you and I agreeing to follow
DS the concensus of the group?
 
 Go ahead.

DS At this point that seems a waste of time ... I've had a nights sleep on
DS it, and I'm currently leaning toward the extreme solution.

So I forward this myself.

DS Arguments:

DS 1. It's been like this forever...
DS 2. No one (with the exception of Christian) has ever asked that it be
DS moved, and several requests have been made for additional documentation.
DS 3. The documentation is development in nature, and should go into the -dev
DS package.
DS 4. The info, demos, and docs sections are about as large as the libraries
DS themselves. Removing them from the runtime is a 50% savings.

5. You can't build demos source if the -dev package isn't installed.
6. Example files should be installed in /usr/lib/package/examples
According to the Debian Policy chapter 13.7

DS Conclusion:

DS While the principle of least surprise is important, it should not be
DS used to stifle progress. Moving the docs and demos out of the runtime
DS package is a significant bloat reduction. Moving them into -dev is not.
DS Making a third package -doc, containing the info, doc, and demo sections
DS now found in the runtime package makes the most sense. Thus a
DS non-development system can still have complete documentation when needed
DS without either the runtime or the -dev packages installed. (screw 'em if
DS they can't find it ;-)

My conclusion:

You can't build demos source if the -dev package isn't installed. And the
info documentation is *really* for developper. This package contain
libraries, so an end user don't need to know how to program this library.

Christian




Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:45:39PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 
 What do you suggest in my specific case with util-linux?

Which specific program in util-linux and what specific headers?

 You mean every upstream source should ship it's own kernel headers?

Yes, they should ship their own headers for kernel data structures and they
need to maintain it so that it works across kernel versions.

 That's ugly and it reminds me that libtool does the same (every program
 tht uses libtool ships it's own copy of libtool) - and every time I
 compile a program that uses libtool under NetBSD/sparc-1.5 I must do a
 libtoolize --force to prevent a miscompilation of the libraries - it
 would be much more easy when the programs would use a locally installed
 libtool instead.

Well someone's got to maintain the kernel/user space interface.  If it
isn't glibc (which does it for most things), then it's whoever uses it.
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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Sam Hartman
 Manoj == Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Aaron == Aaron Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aaron So you're saying it's better to hardcode syscall numbers
Aaron and stuff than using the kernel headers? Sre...

Manoj  We already have a process for packages that actually
Manoj do need kernel headers, and are thus dependent on
Manoj particular kernel versions. 

We do?  please explain what it is.  Herbert produces kernel headers
packages for all flavors of kernels he produces.  I do not believe the
other arches do this.




Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread idalton
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:05:12PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
 On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:54:17AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
  Does anybody out there know what is the problem here? Maybe its
  the failure of Apache. What are your suggestions for running a
  cache for apt-get?
 
 Umm... how about apt-proxy?

If you don't mind running (and debugging) experimental code..

Has a particularly hard time with round-robin mirrors not being in-sync,
or (I think) occationally a mirror not supporting rsync access at all.
Also has trouble with over-returning to the client. FE will return 5MB
of a 200k deb.. And it requires rsync access to the repository.

Despite all this, I did find it working a bit better on my dialup
connection than squid was.

Oh yeah, you'll want to give it a big cache, too. It doesn't seem to be
able to clean its own cache properly.

-- Ferret




Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Waters wrote:
  - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks.
 
 This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition.

No, it is supposed to happen one release _after_ a release in which all
the packages have made the transition. So sarge at the earliest, not woody.

-- 
see shy jo




Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Herbert Xu
Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We do?  please explain what it is.  Herbert produces kernel headers
 packages for all flavors of kernels he produces.  I do not believe the
 other arches do this.

You obviously weren't listening to me when I explained this in the bloat
thread.  If you aren't compiling a kernel module, then the flavoued kernel
headers packages do not exist for you, period.
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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Sam Hartman
 Herbert == Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Herbert Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We do?  please explain what it is.  Herbert produces kernel
 headers packages for all flavors of kernels he produces.  I do
 not believe the other arches do this.

Herbert You obviously weren't listening to me when I explained
Herbert this in the bloat thread.  If you aren't compiling a
Herbert kernel module, then the flavoued kernel headers packages
Herbert do not exist for you, period.  

I thought Manoj's comments applied to modules.




apt complaining about valid dependencies

2001-05-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
What is apt-get upgrade complaining about here?  On a cursory glance,
there isn't anything wrong with any of these proposed installations:

This is apt 0.5.3.

148 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11  not upgraded.
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  alsa-utils: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.97) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  asclock: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.1-2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  asclock-themes: Conflicts: asclock ( 2.0.12) but 2.0.12-3 is to be installed
  awe-midi: Depends: libawe0.4 but 0.4.3.1-1.2 is to be installed
Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.2-2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
Depends: libncurses5 (= 5.2.20010310-1) but 5.2.20010318-1 is to 
be installed
  battleball: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.97) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  bluefish: Depends: libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0) but 1.2.10-1.1 is to be installed
Depends: libtiff3g but 3.5.5-3 is to be installed
  c2man: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  clanlib0-common: Depends: libbz2 but 0.9.5d-4 is to be installed
   Depends: libhdf4g (= 4.1r3) but 4.1r4-5 is to be installed
  craft: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.1-2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  debhelper: Depends: file (= 3.23-1) but 3.33-4 is to be installed
 Depends: lynx
  debmake: Depends: file but 3.33-4 is to be installed
   Depends: patch but 2.5.4-3 is to be installed
  deity-curses: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.2-2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  dhelp: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  dia: Depends: dia-common (= 0.86-7) but 0.86-7 is to be installed
  diald: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.2-2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
 Depends: ppp ( 2.2) but 2.4.1-1 is to be installed
  doc-base: Conflicts: dhelp ( 0.3.14) but 0.3.23 is to be installed
  dpkg-perl: Depends: perl5
 Depends: libnet-perl but 1.0703-4.1 is to be installed
  dupload: Depends: perl (= 5.003) but 5.6.0-21 is to be installed
   Depends: libnet-perl but 1.0703-4.1 is to be installed
  dwww: Depends: perl but 5.6.0-21 is to be installed
  enlightenment: Depends: libungif4g (= 4.1-1) but 4.1-6 is to be installed
  evolution: Depends: libjpeg62 but 6b-1.3 is to be installed
 Depends: libldap2 (= 2.0.2-2) but 2.0.7-5 is to be installed
 Depends: liboaf0 (= 0.6.5) but 0.6.5-5 is to be installed
 Depends: libtiff3g but 3.5.5-3 is to be installed
  flex: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  freeciv-xaw3d: Depends: freeciv (= 1.10) but 1.11.4-3 is to be installed
 Depends: xaw3dg (= 1.3-1) but 1.5-7 is to be installed
  freetype2-dev: Depends: libc6-dev but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
 Conflicts: freetype0-dev but it is not installable
 Conflicts: freetype1 (= 1.0.0.1998-03-22-1) but 
1.0.0.1998-03-22-4 is to be installed
  gabber: Depends: libgnomemm1.1 but 1.1.17-1 is to be installed
  gglyph: Depends: libc6 but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
  libgtkhtml7: Depends: libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.10-1) but 1.2.10-1 is to be installed
   Depends: libunicode0 (= 0.4.0-2) but 0.4.0-2 is to be installed
E: Internal Error, InstallPackages was called with broken packages!

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Re: apt complaining about valid dependencies

2001-05-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Mon, 7 May 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 What is apt-get upgrade complaining about here?  On a cursory glance,
 there isn't anything wrong with any of these proposed installations:

It's an error with how the message is printed, it is showing the wrong
number for 'is to be installed' IIRC.

Jason




Re: apt complaining about valid dependencies

2001-05-06 Thread Tal Danzig
Hi,

First I'd try:
apt-get -f install

Then I'd try to resolve each problem separately.  Eg:
apt-get install alsa-utils
apt-get install asclock
.

Also, have you tried a dist-upgrade?

- Tal

On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:15:19AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
 What is apt-get upgrade complaining about here?  On a cursory glance,
 there isn't anything wrong with any of these proposed installations:
 
 This is apt 0.5.3.
 
 148 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11  not upgraded.
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   alsa-utils: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.97) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
   asclock: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.1-2) but 2.2.2-4 is to be installed
[...]

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Re: build depends on kernel-headers

2001-05-06 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 7 May 2001, Herbert Xu wrote:

  What do you suggest in my specific case with util-linux?

 Which specific program in util-linux and what specific headers?
...

(I tried my best but I can't garuantee this is 100% complete...)

fdisk:
linux/unistd.h
linux/hdreg.h
linux/blkpg.h
linux/types.h
linux/major.h

cfdisk:
linux/unistd.h
linux/types.h
linux/hdreg.h

sfdisk:
linux/unistd.h
linux/hdreg.h

mkswap:
asm/page.h

hwclock:
asm/io.h
asm/rtc.h
asm/cuda.h
linux/version.h
linux/mc146818rtc.h
linux/kd.h

setterm:
asm/ioctls.h

mount + umount:
asm/types.h
asm/page.h
linux/posix_types.h
linux/loop.h
linux/nfs.h
linux/unistd.h
linux/nfs_mount.h

swapon:
linux/unistd.h

pivot_root:
linux/unistd.h

fdformat:
linux/fd.h

setfdprm:
linux/fd.h

raw:
linux/raw.h
linux/major.h

fsck.minix:
linux/fs.h
linux/minix_fs.h

mkfs.minix:
linux/fs.h
linux/minix_fs.h

setterm:
linux/unistd.h

cytune:
linux/tty.h
linux/tqueue.h
linux/cyclades.h
linux/version.h

dmesg:
linux/unistd.h



cu
Adrian

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010506 21:27]:
 See above: I want to file a RC bug either because
 a) the package follows a too old policy or

For the /usr/doc problem, bugs with severity: normal have already been
filed by doogie and joeyh.  For these packages, you simply have to
change the severity.  At the moment, 103 of these bugs are still open
(248 bugs were filed originally):


Package: acm
Maintainer: Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91371 Package acm still has at least one file in /usr/doc
  91382 Package acm still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: authbind
Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91376 Package authbind still has at least one file in /usr/doc
  91387 Package authbind still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: bock
Maintainer: Charles Briscoe-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91396 Package bock still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: cqcam
Maintainer: Daniel Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91415 Package cqcam still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: cracklib-runtime
Maintainer: Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91407 Package cracklib-runtime still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: cracklib2
Maintainer: Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91414 Package cracklib2 still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: cracklib2-dev
Maintainer: Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91429 Package cracklib2-dev still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: csound-doc
Maintainer: Guenter Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91433 Package csound-doc still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: cup
Maintainer: Charles Briscoe-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91422 Package cup still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: doc-debian-fr
Maintainer: Christophe Le Bars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91417 Package doc-debian-fr still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: dtlk
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James R. Van Zandt)
  91438 Package dtlk still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: dtmfdial
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen J. Carpenter)
  91450 Package dtmfdial still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: dvidvi
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. van Leeuwen)
  91439 Package dvidvi still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: emacs20-el
Maintainer: Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91554 Package emacs20-el still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: emacsen-common
Maintainer: Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91457 Package emacsen-common still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: f77reorder
Maintainer: Alex Romosan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91444 Package f77reorder still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: faqomatic
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott K. Ellis)
  91465 Package faqomatic still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: ftape-doc
Maintainer: Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91463 Package ftape-doc still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: ftape-util
Maintainer: Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91462 Package ftape-util still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gap4-gdat
Maintainer: Markus Hetzmannseder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91470 Package gap4-gdat still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gap4-tdat
Maintainer: Markus Hetzmannseder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91469 Package gap4-tdat still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gbdk-dev
Maintainer: Masato Taruishi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91472 Package gbdk-dev still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gbdk-examples
Maintainer: Masato Taruishi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91471 Package gbdk-examples still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gcc-m68k-linux
Maintainer: Martin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91476 Package gcc-m68k-linux still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gerstensaft
Maintainer: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91477 Package gerstensaft still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: glimpse
Maintainer: Marco Budde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91484 Package glimpse still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gs-aladdin-manual
Maintainer: Marco Pistore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91486 Package gs-aladdin-manual still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gs-aladdin-manual-de
Maintainer: Marco Pistore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91483 Package gs-aladdin-manual-de still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gsfonts
Maintainer: Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91489 Package gsfonts still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: gsfonts-other
Maintainer: Torsten Landschoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91485 Package gsfonts-other still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: htget
Maintainer: Troy Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91497 Package htget still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: id-utils
Maintainer: Brad Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91555 Package id-utils still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: idled
Maintainer: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91513 Package idled still has at least one file in /usr/doc

Package: infocom
Maintainer: Charles Briscoe-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  91515

Re: Bug#96224: libgmp3: Move documentation in the -dev package

2001-05-06 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi Christian  Dale,

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:11:14PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote:
  DS == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [...]
 
 DS I can be convinced on either count. How would you feel about my presenting
 DS this issue to the developers at large, with you and I agreeing to follow
 DS the concensus of the group?
  
  Go ahead.

I'd be happy to give an opinion.  However, based on this one message
and the bug report, I can't figure out what the contentious issue is.

It is evident to me that the (programmer) docs and example code does
not belong in the runtime libgmp3 package.

Christian seems to be asking that they get moved to the -dev package,
which seems logical enough to me.

Dale seems to be arguing that a new -doc package should be created,
and the docs moved there, instead.  To me, that seems like overkill.
But if the packager (Dale) is doing the work, who am I to argue?

If Dale has agreed to do move the docs (either to -dev or to -doc),
that seems to me to answer the bug report.  I don't understand what
question Christian's posting to -devel is supposed to raise.

-S




Re: RaiserFS PPC status

2001-05-06 Thread Rahul Jain
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:03:43AM +0200, Just a friendly Jedi Knight wrote:
  You mean XFS from Linus kernel tree? there are some patches on
  penguinppc.org

This is not in Linus's kernel tree. Are you using SGI's 1.0 release?
In any case, that should not affect the compilation of the tools much.

  Anyway i have trouble compiling mkfs.xfs I tried:
  gcc version 2.95.4 20010319 (Debian prerelease)
  gcc version 3.0 20010402 (Debian prerelease) and xfsprogs 1.2.4 Debian
  source package as well as source taken from penguinppc.org. I always get
  this:

you should stick to gcc 2.95 for compiling the kernel, and probably the
userspace tools, too.

 gcc -O1 -g -DNDEBUG -funsigned-char -Wall  -I../include '-DVERSION=1.2.4' 
 -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DXFS_BIG_FILES=1 
 -DXFS_BIG_FILESYSTEMS=1 -o xfs_db -L../libxfs  addr.o agf.o agfl.o agi.o 
 attr.o attrshort.o bit.o block.o bmap.o bmapbt.o bmroot.o bnobt.o check.o 
 cntbt.o command.o convert.o data.o dbread.o debug.o dir.o dir2.o dir2sf.o 
 dirshort.o dquot.o echo.o faddr.o field.o flist.o fprint.o frag.o freesp.o 
 hash.o help.o init.o inobt.o inode.o input.o io.o malloc.o mount.o output.o 
 print.o quit.o sb.o uuid.o sig.o strvec.o type.o write.o main.o   -lxfs 
 /usr/lib/libuuid.a
 ../libxfs/libxfs.a(xfs_inode.o): In function `libxfs_xlate_dinode_core':
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:563: undefined 
 reference to `__fswab64'
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:563: relocation 
 truncated to fit: R_PPC_REL24 __fswab64
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:563: undefined 
 reference to `__fswab64'
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:563: relocation 
 truncated to fit: R_PPC_REL24 __fswab64
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:564: undefined 
 reference to `__fswab64'
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:564: relocation 
 truncated to fit: R_PPC_REL24 __fswab64
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:564: undefined 
 reference to `__fswab64'
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_inode.c:564: relocation 
 truncated to fit: R_PPC_REL24 __fswab64
 ../libxfs/libxfs.a(xfs_mount.o): In function `libxfs_xlate_sb':
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_mount.c:205: undefined 
 reference to `__fswab64'
 /opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4/libxfs/xfs_mount.c:205: relocation 
 truncated to fit: R_PPC_REL24 __fswab64
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [xfs_db] Error 1
 make[1]: *** [default] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/robert/XFS/xfsprogs-1.2.4'
 make: *** [built] Error 2

grepping my xfsprogs tree, I get:
./include/libxfs.h:extern __inline__ __const__ __u64 __fswab64 (__u64 x);

maybe your GCC isn't inlining the function?
note that this declaration has /* ick */ on the line above it. But I think
the relocation truncated to fit: R_PPC_REL24 __fswab64 messages are important.
I'll leave it to someone more knowledgable about GCC and ELF to comment on
that.

 These are the only errors I get... This must be some bug in gcc on powerpc as
 it compiles cleanly on i386 (and from looking on ftp.debian.org on other
 platforms also). I don't even have idea how to bite this...

I'm only on x86 here, so all I can say is yeah :)

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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:27:59PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 On Sun, 6 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote:

  Didn't we already have this discussion?  The Standards-Version field
  is not a reliable indication of much of anything.  I strongly object

 Policy says:

Policy says doesn't make the packages comply.  And you can file all
the bugs reports you want, but that doesn't magically fix the
packages.  And until they're fixed, you can't use them as a reliable
indicator of FHS compatibility.  QED.

We have many packages with old Standards-Versions which actually
comply with newer standards and *are* FHS compatible, and we have
packages with newer Standards-Versions that are NOT FHS compatible.

I think that if you really want to focus on FHS compatibility, you're
better off ignoring the Standards-Version issues for now.  Its just
another can of worms.  Picking the minimum Standards-Version for
release is something we normally do at freeze time.

  In the source package's `Standards-Version' control field, you must
  specify the most recent version number of this policy document with
  which your package complies.  The current version number is 3.5.4.0.

You're misinterpreting this.  It does not mean that every package must
be reuploaded every time policy changes.  Most recent should be
checked at the time you create the source package, not rechecked
daily.

Note that the next paragraph mentions filing bug reports if the
package becomes too much out of date.  If any is too much, why
bother to say too much?

  to removing packages because of what amount to cosmetic issues, and an

 Where did I say that I want to remove the packages???
 I said that I want to send bug reports.

RC bugs mean the package must be removed from the next release if it's
not fixed.  Unless you can guarantee that the bugs will be fixed
(i.e., you're volunteering to fix them yourself), you _are_ asking for
package to be removed when you file RC bugs.

Anyway, I apologize for a reminder I'm sure you don't need.  It's just
a habit of mine, please forgive me.

Bottom line, I think there remains a lot of work checking the subtle
and not-so-obvious stuff in the FHS before we can confidently claim
FHS compatibility (and even *begin* to work on actual compliance).

The easy stuff, as your evidence shows, we're actually quite close on.
It's the harder stuff, like /var/lib/games (which Kamion was going to
investigate) and the random hard-to-identify files that need to move
from /usr/lib to /usr/share that needs the most attention.

So, anyway, that's a nice list of packages you made, and I think it's
probably very useful -- all those packages should inspected -- I just
don't think it's very useful for the purpose you intended.

And I think mass filings of RC bugs would be premature at best.

cheers
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Re: Finishing the FHS transition

2001-05-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:29:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Chris Waters wrote:
   - A change in the policy to remove the obsolete /usr/doc symlinks.

  This is supposed to happen once enough packages make the transition.

 No, it is supposed to happen one release _after_ a release in which
 all the packages have made the transition. So sarge at the earliest,
 not woody.

Right.  Even better point.
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