Accepted zutils 1.6-6 (source amd64) into unstable

[Daniel Baumann]

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 08:25:14 +0100
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Version: 1.6-6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Daniel Baumann 
Changed-By: Daniel Baumann 
Description:
 zutils - utilities for dealing with compressed files transparently
Changes:
 zutils (1.6-6) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Uploading to sid.
   * Using https in watch file.
   * Making conflict on zfsutils versioned (see #825268).
   * Updating to standards version 4.1.3.
   * Updating to debhelper compat 11.
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Accepted open-infrastructure-package-tracker 20170515-3 (source all) into unstable

[Daniel Baumann]

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Version: 20170515-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Andreas Kreuzer 
Changed-By: Daniel Baumann 
Description:
 open-infrastructure-package-tracker - Compare and track package versions in 
debian repositories
Closes: 886929
Changes:
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 .
   * Uploading to sid.
   * Removing logfiles when purging package (Closes: #886929).
   * Adding distribution upload note to last debian changelog entry.
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Accepted partman-auto-lvm 67 (source) into unstable

[Christian Perrier]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team 
Changed-By: Christian Perrier 
Description:
 partman-auto-lvm - Automatically partition storage devices using LVM (udeb)
Changes:
 partman-auto-lvm (67) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Hebrew (he.po) by Yaron Shahrabani
   * Tajik (tg.po) by Victor Ibragimov
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Paul Wise]

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16 2018, Michael Meskes wrote:
>> If we were to package applications as containers (not necessarily
>> docker-style!) we could and should have different rules for
>> those
>
> Yes, I think that Debian should eventually be providing a repository of
> flatpaks (or similar) alongside our apt repos.

I think the discussion we are having here is orthogonal to containers/flatpaks.

If Debian were to have a repository of containers/flatpaks, then it
should meet Debian standards. We cannot just say "here are some
containers, completely unsupported and might not up to our standards".
To achieve that, I think it would be best to automatically convert it
from Debian binary packages. Also, since we are already doing
packaging work, it makes sense to base any container efforts on that,
just like our cloud efforts have been.

There is flathub, dockerhub etc for containers/flatpaks that may or
may not meet Debian standards.

> One of smcv's talk at DebConf17 explains the advantages of doing this:
> https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/59/

IIRC, many applications have to be rebuilt for this particular
incarnation of converting Debian to flatpaks (except programs that are
already relocatable). Personally I am not sure we need additional
burden on the buildds.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Accepted nobootloader 1.51 (source) into unstable

[Christian Perrier]

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Maintainer: Debian Install System Team 
Changed-By: Christian Perrier 
Description:
 nobootloader - Don't install any bootloader (udeb)
Changes:
 nobootloader (1.51) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Hebrew (he.po) by Yaron Shahrabani
   * Tajik (tg.po) by Victor Ibragimov
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Accepted lzd 1.0-5 (source amd64) into unstable

[Daniel Baumann]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Daniel Baumann 
Changed-By: Daniel Baumann 
Description:
 lzd- Educational, lossless data compressor based on the LZMA algorithm
Changes:
 lzd (1.0-5) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Uploading to sid.
   * Using https in watch file.
   * Updating to standards version 4.1.3.
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Accepted lzip 1.20-1 (source amd64) into unstable

[Daniel Baumann]

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Maintainer: Daniel Baumann 
Changed-By: Daniel Baumann 
Description:
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 .
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[Christian Perrier]

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 partman-partitioning (122) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ]
   * Add support for GPT partition tables on sparc/sparc64.
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   [ Updated translations ]
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   * Hebrew (he.po) by Yaron Shahrabani
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Maintainer: Debian python-debian Maintainers 

Changed-By: Stuart Prescott 
Description:
 python-debian - Python modules to work with Debian-related data formats
 python3-debian - Python 3 modules to work with Debian-related data formats
Closes: 862058 878434 878435
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 python-debian (0.1.32) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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Accepted git-annex 6.20180112-2 (source) into unstable

[Sean Whitton]

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Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 

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 .
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Re: Maintaining a custom out-of-tree patched Debian kernel for specific hardware

[Kumar Appaiah]

Dear Raju,

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 09:18:06PM +0530, Raju Devidas wrote:
> Hello Kumar,
> 
> I took a look at your repository on salsa. 
> Before taking a look at your repository I have also taken a look at some
> other repositories on github which had steps for
> supporting Ubuntu on the RDP.
> 
> Specially this one.
> 
> https://github.com/sundarnagarajan/rdp-thinbook-linux
> 

Indeed. I have adapted the sound and bluetooth configuration in my
repository from that one. The author of that repository has helped me
in getting my ISO remade with all features working.

> Most of the repositories including yours do handle the issue of getting
> custom Debian/Ubuntu installed on Debian with everything working.
> 
> And I thank you and others for your work regarding this.
> 
> However it does not solve the scenario wherein, if someone has already
> installed Debian or any derivative of it, how do I get things working up
> there?
> 
> In my case I have already installed Hamara Sugam on RDP Thinbook 1130.
> 
> By following a few steps from Sundar Nagarajan's repository, I have got
> Wi-Fi working.
> 
> Sound is not working. Bluetooth works sometimes, sometimes not.
> 
> I also tried installing firmware-intel-sound from the firmware-nonfree
> package as suggested by Praveen.
> 
> But that didn't solved the issue either.
> 
> 
> Let me know of a way which can add support to already installed
> operating systems on the RDP.
> 
> Also in your mail you mentioned about your own repo which would be added
> by default on the pre-installed debian systems of RDP.
> 
> If I can get the URL of the repo, may be I can get some packages from
> there to make things working.

Currently, I have not made the custom repository. I can share the URL
of my preseeded configuration generated ISO, though that is designed
more for an OEM-style install (it destroys the data on the PC and
recreates a fresh stretch install) and it is still under development
(in sync with my salsa repository).

In you case, my suggestion would be to mail me offline and I can guide
you. But the short story for sound is that you should get the
sound-config.tar.gz from my repository:

https://salsa.debian.org/akumar/debian-installer-rdp-thinbook/raw/master/sound-config.tar.gz

Extract the files to /root and run /root/hardware/sound/install.sh.

For more help, just mail me off-list. Also, I can share the ISO I
build using the above repository; I am not publishing the URL yet
because it is still evolving.

Thanks.

Kumar

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Accepted fonts-cantarell 0.100-2 (source) into experimental

[Jeremy Bicha]

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Accepted sagetex 3.0+ds-5 (source) into unstable

[Jerome Benoit]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Tex Maintainers 
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Description:
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 sagetex- Embed Sage code and plots into LaTeX
 sagetex-doc - Embed Sage code and plots into LaTeX -- doc
Changes:
 sagetex (3.0+ds-5) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Debianization:
 - debian/copyright:
   - Format field, secure;
   - copyright year tuple, refresh;
 - debian/control:
   - debhelper, bump to 11 (adapt);
   - Standards Version, bump to 4.1.3 (no change);
   - Vcs-* fields, migration to salsa.debian.org ;
   - Priority field, from extra to optional;
 - debian/rules:
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   - override_dh_auto_test target, filter nocheck;
   - get-orig-source target, compression option, move to d/watch ;
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 - debian/tests/*, introduce;
 - debian/adhoc/examples/Makefile, refresh and harden;
 - debian/README.Debian, spelling, correct.
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[Manoj Srivastava]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava 
Changed-By: Manoj Srivastava 
Description:
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Closes: 835171 845625 862607 870474 878891 879558 879641
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 ucf (3.0037) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * A new bugfixing release.
   * Bug fix: "Typo in ucfr(1)", thanks to Carsten Leonhardt (Closes:
 #835171).
   * Bug fix: "[PATCH] diffs are rendered with broken spacing", thanks to
 Dima Kogan (Closes: #862607).
   * Bug fix: "offers 3-way merge even without --three-way option", thanks
 to Marc Haber (Closes: #879558).
   * Bug fix: "Corrupt its database if roots bashrc has GREP_OPTIONS
 env", thanks to Adam Cecile adam.cec...@hitec.lu (Closes:
 #845625).
   * Bug fix: "please consider removing the experimental tag from
 --three-way", thanks to Marc Haber (Closes: #879641).
   * Bug fix: "manpage ucf(1) refers ancient releases", thanks to Marc
 Haber (Closes: #878891).
   * Bug fix: "Bad UI on prompts", thanks to Peter Palfrader (Closes:
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[Tristan Seligmann]

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Accepted plastex 0.9.2-1.2 (source) into unstable

[Stuart Prescott]

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documentation fil
Closes: 866454
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 .
   [ Stuart Prescott ]
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   * Replace python-imaging dependencies with python-pil (Closes: #866454).
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 following the svn to git-dpm conversion.
 .
   [ Carl Fürstenberg ]
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   * --ignore-theme-extras was renamed to --no-theme-extras, update manpage.
 .
   [ Jakub Wilk ]
   * Use canonical URIs for Vcs-* fields.
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Paul Wise]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:11 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> What do you think? Do you have other ideas? Are there other persons
> who are annoyed by the current situation?

I think we should keep software that doesn't meet our standards
outside of Debian. There are plenty of ways to deploy such software,
we do not need to diverge from upstream's deployment methods
(containers etc) unless that software is suitable for packaging within
Debian; under a free license, source-only tarballs/VCS available,
builds everything from source, no embedded code/data copies etc. These
are violated a *lot* already for packages already in Debian, I think
we should aim to reduce that rather than increase it.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Gunnar Wolf]

Michael Meskes dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:07:06PM +0100]:
> > Is was a relevant part of the problem mentioned in Raphaels bug
> > report: Minified JS libraries without source code. this was one
> > of the starting points of this discussion. (#890598)
> 
> Right, although merely technical since there is source code, albeit not
> very legible or maintainable.

Minification is quite comparable to compilation. I will give you some
examples from my frustration with Drupal8 in this answer. This can no
longer be seen as source code:


https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/drupal8.git/tree/core/assets/vendor/classList/classList.min.js

And it's far from the ugliest example I can quote. Of course, I needed
to ship sources for all of them - Take a look at:


https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/drupal8.git/tree/debian/missing-sources/README

And, of course, think about the huge diff that is to be created for
all of the files in debian/missing-sources.

> > The bug report mentions two orthogonal problems:
> >  - libraries without source code or no license information
> 
> I might have missed the missing license problem, but I'm pretty noone
> wants to see unlicensed software in Debian, which also would be
> illegal.

Take this as an example of what is needed for a moderately complex PHP
webapp with lots of JS in it:


https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/drupal8.git/tree/debian/copyright

Of course, it was all hand-generated and validated.

> >  - libraries which are needed in specific versions
> 
> This one really worries me. I wonder how many similar cases we already
> have, where somebody took some code and changed it slightly before
> including it.

And that's where I dropped the ball. Upstream says they will keep
dependencies refreshed - that means that every project version bump,
they will pull in the newest stable versions for all of the projects I
covered in the above links. Of course, I had come up with a clunky bit
in my debian/rules to track any changes:

override_dh_install:
# Ensure the list of third-party included libraries remains
# consistent with what we already checked
SHATMP=`mktemp --tmpdir SHA_CK.X` && \
sha256sum core/core.libraries.yml > $$SHATMP && \
diff -q debian/missing-sources/tracking.sha256 $$SHATMP && \
rm $$SHATMP

But... That would inescapably be run at every minor bump. And it's
just too much of a PITA to build.

> > I add a third one:
> >  - libraries that are not packaged, because there are too many
> 
> The problem is probably less the amount but more the manual work to
> find the canonical sources. Packing a go "library" for instance does
> not take a lot of time, because it can be done mostly automated.

But packaging the precise version that is required in each little bump
is just impossible.


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Accepted leptonlib 1.75.3-2 (source amd64) into unstable

[Jeff Breidenbach]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Jeff Breidenbach 
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Description:
 leptonica-progs - sample programs for Leptonica image processing library
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Accepted dialign-t 1.0.2-11 (source) into unstable

[Andreas Tille]

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team 

Changed-By: Andreas Tille 
Description:
 dialign-tx - Segment-based multiple sequence alignment
 dialign-tx-data - Segment-based multiple sequence alignment (data files)
Closes: 890616
Changes:
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 .
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Bug#890629: ITP: golang-github-valyala-fasthttp -- Fast HTTP library for Go

[Nobuhiro Iwamatsu]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu 

* Package name: golang-github-valyala-fasthttp
  Version : 20160617-1
  Upstream Author : Aliaksandr Valialkin, VertaMedia
* URL : https://github.com/valyala/fasthttp
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: go
  Description : Fast HTTP library for Go

 The fasthttp library provides fast HTTP server and client API.
 
 This tuned for high performance, and zero memory allocations in
 hot paths. Processing performance is up to 10x faster than net/http.

Accepted golang-github-labstack-gommon 0.2.3-2 (source all) into unstable

[Nobuhiro Iwamatsu]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Go Packaging Team 

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Description:
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:01:53PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:

True, that's why I think we should look for a different solutions.


There are different solutions, but the result isn't debian, it's 
something else with a different set of expectations.


Mike Stone

Accepted hkgerman 1:2-33 (source all) into unstable

[Roland Rosenfeld]

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 .
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[Jeremy Bicha]

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 gnome-tweaks - tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME
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Accepted aodh 6.0.0-1 (source all) into experimental

[Thomas Goirand]

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Maintainer: Debian OpenStack 
Changed-By: Thomas Goirand 
Description:
 aodh-api   - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - API server
 aodh-common - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - common files
 aodh-doc   - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - doc
 aodh-evaluator - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - alarm evaluator
 aodh-expirer - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - expirer
 aodh-listener - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - listener
 aodh-notifier - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - alarm notifier
 python3-aodh - OpenStack Telemetry (Ceilometer) Alarming - Python libraries
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 .
   [ Ondřej Nový ]
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Sean Whitton]

Hello Michael,

On Fri, Feb 16 2018, Michael Meskes wrote:

>> We cannot feasibly provide security updates when there is more than
>> one version of the library in the archive.  We do not, and probably
>> never will have, the required manpower.
>>
>> This applies to the nixos/guix solutions too -- we cannot expect our
>> security team to go around backporting patches to all the different
>> versions we're offering to users.
>
> Yeah, I was expecting this point and I don't agree. Well, I do agree
> on it's being too much of a burden for us to backport all fixes to
> each version, but I do not agree on that being what we need to do.
>
> If we were to package applications as containers (not necessarily
> docker-style!) we could and should have different rules for
> those. Just see what people will do otherwise, use a Linux
> distribution and install manually and then, maybe, update when a fixed
> version of the application comes out. IMO we should do exactly the
> same and make sure the application containers get update to fixed
> version as and when possible. For users this means that get probably
> better security and easier deployment of whatever application they
> need to run. Obviously this needs to be clearly documented.

Yes, I think that Debian should eventually be providing a repository of
flatpaks (or similar) alongside our apt repos.

One of smcv's talk at DebConf17 explains the advantages of doing this:
https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/59/

-- 
Sean Whitton


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Accepted node-typescript 2.7.2-1 (source all) into unstable

[Julien Puydt]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Javascript Maintainers 

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Description:
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develop
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Bug#890625: ITP: golang-gopkg-warnings.v0 -- implements error handling with non-fatal errors (warnings)

[Michael Stapelberg]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Stapelberg 

* Package name: golang-gopkg-warnings.v0
  Version : 0.1.2-1
  Upstream Author : Péter Surányi
* URL : https://github.com/go-warnings/warnings
* License : BSD-2-clause
  Programming Lang: Go
  Description : implements error handling with non-fatal errors (warnings)
 Package warnings implements error handling with non-fatal errors (warnings).

This is a dependency of golang-gopkg-gcfg.v1.

Accepted golang-github-docker-engine-api 0.4.0-3 (source) into unstable

[Michael Stapelberg]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Go Packaging Team 

Changed-By: Michael Stapelberg 
Description:
 golang-github-docker-engine-api-dev - client and server components compatible 
with the Docker engine
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Accepted golang-github-docker-goamz 0.0~git20160206.0.f0a21f5-3 (source) into unstable

[Michael Stapelberg]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Go Packaging Team 

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Description:
 golang-github-docker-goamz-dev - Enable Go programs to interact with Amazon 
Web Services
Changes:
 golang-github-docker-goamz (0.0~git20160206.0.f0a21f5-3) unstable; 
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[Manoj Srivastava]

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Closes: 890411
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[Michael Stapelberg]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: pkg-go 
Changed-By: Michael Stapelberg 
Description:
 golang-github-revel-revel-dev - high productivity, full-stack web framework 
for the Go language
Changes:
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   * Team upload.
   * switch to patrickmn/go-cache
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Bug#890623: ITP: webext-bulk-media-downloader -- Cross-browser extension to detect and download media resources

[Michael Meskes]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Meskes 

* Package name: webext-bulk-media-downloader
  Version : 0.2.1
  Upstream Author : InBasic 
* URL : 
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/bulk-media-downloader/ 
* License : MPL-2.0
  Programming Lang: Javascript
  Description : Cross-browser extension to detect and download media 
resources

Bulk Media Downloader is a browser extension (add-on) to detect all media
(video, audio and image) sources by monitoring network activities. In oppose
to the other similar extensions, Bulk Media Downloader has zero impact on your
browser performance when the grabber window is closed. To grab a media, open
the Media Tools window and refresh the browser tab that has the intended
resource and wait for the resource to be fetched by browser one more time. You
can use filters to declutter resources area and you can bulk download resources
by selecting multiple items at once.

This will replace some extensions for firefox that no longer work and will be
maintained inside the pkg-mozext group.

Michael

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> > Who said we cannot properly maintain this stuff? And where do you
> > think our expected level of quality (whatever that is) will not be
> > reached?
> 
> In this thread, at least Raphaël and myself.
> 
> And, I guess, many others (say, OwnCloud was already brought up to
> this thread).

As I explained before the question was more about the definition of
"properly maintain".

Michael
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Accepted kopanocore 8.5.2-1 (source) into unstable

[Carsten Schoenert]

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gate
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 python-kopano - Complete and feature rich groupware solution - Python bindings
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Changes:
 kopanocore (8.5.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Carsten Schoenert ]
   * [dc2050f] d/watch: mangle also trailing dot sign
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> Depends how it would be done. Nixos style would probably very
> difficult for Debian. Packages with version number in their
> name would be no packaging problem at all, but we would have
> to make clear, that security support is not likely.

Sure, I don't see a problem with this.

> > discussions are going. How on earth did we get from the technical
> > problem of
> > how to package large application stacks that come with their own
> > copies of
> > certain "libraries" to packaging software that is neither free nor
> > open source?
> > I didn't notice anyone suggesting we should do the latter.
> 
> Is was a relevant part of the problem mentioned in Raphaels bug
> report: Minified JS libraries without source code. this was one
> of the starting points of this discussion. (#890598)

Right, although merely technical since there is source code, albeit not
very legible or maintainable.

> The bug report mentions two orthogonal problems:
>  - libraries without source code or no license information

I might have missed the missing license problem, but I'm pretty noone
wants to see unlicensed software in Debian, which also would be
illegal.

>  - libraries which are needed in specific versions

This one really worries me. I wonder how many similar cases we already
have, where somebody took some code and changed it slightly before
including it.

> I add a third one:
>  - libraries that are not packaged, because there are too many

The problem is probably less the amount but more the manual work to
find the canonical sources. Packing a go "library" for instance does
not take a lot of time, because it can be done mostly automated.

Michael
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Accepted jboss-xnio 3.6.2-1 (source) into unstable

[Markus Koschany]

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Version: 3.6.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers 

Changed-By: Markus Koschany 
Description:
 libjboss-xnio-java - simplified low-level I/O layer for NIO
 libjboss-xnio-java-doc - Documentation for jboss-xnio
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Accepted gob2 2.0.20-2 (source) into unstable

[Stephen Kitt]

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Version: 2.0.20-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Stephen Kitt 
Changed-By: Stephen Kitt 
Description:
 gob2   - GTK+ Object Builder
Closes: 890526
Changes:
 gob2 (2.0.20-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * gob2’s behaviour is arch-independent, so mark it Multi-Arch: foreign
 (allowing it to be used in cross-builds). Thanks to Helmut Grohne for
 the report and patch! (Closes: #890526.)
   * Adjust priority from “extra” to “optional”.
   * Clean up debian/control using cme.
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[Gregor Jasny]

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> stuff is packaged. The current "build everything from live git"
> paradigm 
> just doesn't work well for a package-based distributon with a multi-
> year 

True, that's why I think we should look for a different solutions. 

Michael

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> As a sysadmin, I know I can trust that most of my system is OK if I
> just apt update / apt upgrade every so often. And I know the maybe
> five to ten software packages I have hand-installed. I know I must be
> aware of their alerts and whatnot.

Personally I'm afraid that a lot of sysadmins know to run apt
update/upgrade frequently but way fewer do (have the time to) check the
alerts etc. 

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Gunnar Wolf]

Michael Meskes dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 06:12:04PM +0100]:
> > No, I think it's better if people know they're on their own for maintaining
> > something. What's surely worse is when we ship stuff that we know we can't
> > properly maintain in the long term. Better to be out of the archive than in
> > without the expected level of quality.
> 
> Who said we cannot properly maintain this stuff? And where do you
> think our expected level of quality (whatever that is) will not be
> reached?

In this thread, at least Raphaël and myself.

And, I guess, many others (say, OwnCloud was already brought up to
this thread).

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 01:59:55PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:

While I agree with you, just the number of node-.* (1249) or libjs-.*
(398) packages (which tend to fall within this fast-paced development
culture) makes me shiver... Who will maintain them at different
compatibility levels? Even more so if their upstreams have effectively
abandoned them?


And the real ironic thing is that those packages mainly exist to support 
some larger app as dependencies, and that larger app is generally out of 
date so people will just install a non-packaged version anyway--at which 
point they'll get the node dependencies from live downloads because who 
the heck would use debian packages for that instead of using the native 
facilities?


Mike Stone

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[W. Martin Borgert]

On 2018-02-16 20:41, Michael Meskes wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 08:21:19PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > But it's probably too much work, preparing infrastructure etc.
>
> Why?

Depends how it would be done. Nixos style would probably very
difficult for Debian. Packages with version number in their
name would be no packaging problem at all, but we would have
to make clear, that security support is not likely.

> > Anyway, relaxing requirements on source code availability,
> > building from sources with tools within Debian, free license,
> > etc. is not an option for me. Not only in the context of Debian.
>
> I've been doing Debian for so long now but I still cannot grasp the way
> discussions are going. How on earth did we get from the technical problem of
> how to package large application stacks that come with their own copies of
> certain "libraries" to packaging software that is neither free nor open 
> source?
> I didn't notice anyone suggesting we should do the latter.

Is was a relevant part of the problem mentioned in Raphaels bug
report: Minified JS libraries without source code. this was one
of the starting points of this discussion. (#890598)

The bug report mentions two orthogonal problems:
 - libraries without source code or no license information
 - libraries which are needed in specific versions
I add a third one:
 - libraries that are not packaged, because there are too many

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 06:12:04PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:12:51AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:58:04PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> I know that this does create some problems for us, e.g. on the security
> side, but the alternative is, as you mentioned, manually installed
> software and that surely is worse.

No, I think it's better if people know they're on their own for maintaining
something. What's surely worse is when we ship stuff that we know we can't
properly maintain in the long term. Better to be out of the archive than in
without the expected level of quality.


Who said we cannot properly maintain this stuff? 


Me, among others, based on experience watching what happens when this 
stuff is packaged. The current "build everything from live git" paradigm 
just doesn't work well for a package-based distributon with a multi-year 
life cycle. Lots of people have tried, performed heroically, and thrown 
in the towel when they realize the ongoing maintenance is even more 
work than the initial heroic effort. 


Mike Stone

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Gunnar Wolf]

Michael Meskes dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:58:04PM +0100]:
> Can't we treat a .deb file like a container in the sense that it may
> include additional source if needed? I'd very much like this.
> 
> I know that this does create some problems for us, e.g. on the security
> side, but the alternative is, as you mentioned, manually installed
> software and that surely is worse.

Dunno.

As a sysadmin, I know I can trust that most of my system is OK if I
just apt update / apt upgrade every so often. And I know the maybe
five to ten software packages I have hand-installed. I know I must be
aware of their alerts and whatnot.

I know that being a 15-year DD does not make me the average
sysadmin. But that's one of Debian core values to sysadmins. I guess
I'm not the only one appreciating that.

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Gunnar Wolf]

W. Martin Borgert dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 06:59:21PM +0100]:
> If I understand Samuels idea correctly, he likes to have multiple
> versions of the same (JavaScript) library installed on Debian.
> Not "stuff", but proper Debian packages, with all bells and whistles.
> Only that you don't remove necessarily the old version, when the new
> one comes in. Similar to C libraries, kernel, etc. but with a different
> way to actually use the files, of course.
> (...)
> This is very much a web application problem. Other software is
> less affected in my experience.
> 
> Maybe we just have to package JS libraries with their version
> number in the package name in the first place?

While I agree with you, just the number of node-.* (1249) or libjs-.*
(398) packages (which tend to fall within this fast-paced development
culture) makes me shiver... Who will maintain them at different
compatibility levels? Even more so if their upstreams have effectively
abandoned them?



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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 07:26:35PM +0100, Innocent De Marchi wrote:
> I believe that the right way is to
> convince developers of the need to generate applications that respect
> the principles of free code.
Note that we don't want "applications that respect the principles of free
code", we specifically require DFSG, and a specific interpretation of it,
which is not the same as just "free software"/"open source".

> And another strategy, is to get developers to write "specifically" for
> Debian.
I don't think this is feasible.

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 08:21:19PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:

This is true. We would have to be clear, that security support
would have to be limited to one (the latest?) version. This is
still a difference to some arbitrary compressed js files with no
source code, no copyright information etc. which people use when
there is no Debian package at all.


That's exactly what I was objecting to--the end user will then install 
the package from debian in good faith and have no idea whether it's on 
the "not really supported" list. I'd much rather have them install it 
from a third party (most of which nowadays have some sort of update 
mechanism).


Mike Stone

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Gunnar Wolf]

Raphael Hertzog dijo [Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:11:29PM +0100]:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> the fact that I had to request the removal of dolibarr from Debian makes
> me sad (see below for the reasons) and I believe that we should be able
> to do better to provide complex applications to our end users.
> (...)
> I'm sure we are missing lots of good applications due to our requirements.
> What can we do to avoid this?
> 
> I don't have any definite answers although there are ideas to explore:
> (...)
> What do you think? Do you have other ideas? Are there other persons
> who are annoyed by the current situation?

I was bitten by a similar issue; I maintained Drupal 7 for several
years (was included in 3 stable releases). But I gave up when
packaging Drupal 8, much for the same reasons:

   http://gwolf.org/node/4087

However it saddens me, that's... Well, the right thing to do, IMO.

> - we could relax our requirements and have a way to document the
>   limitations of those packages (wrt our usual policies)
> 
> - we could ship those applications not as .deb but as container
>   and let them have their own lifecycle

I would not like us relaxing our requirements. If there is a need to
distribute webapps as container images, that can be done, and much
probably it can be done by ourselves - But that's not Debian. That
means, distributing a container with dolibarr or with drupal8 will not
allow us to build packages that depend on them (such as
drupal7-mod-civicrm), or packaging helpers (such as
dh-make-drupal). Maybe few webapps introduce full ecosystems as Drupal
does; we had a similar issue a couple of years ago with OwnCloud, and
it would fall in the same case. And I think examples will be too many
to list.

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 08:21:19PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> This is true. We would have to be clear, that security support
> would have to be limited to one (the latest?) version. This is
> still a difference to some arbitrary compressed js files with no
> source code, no copyright information etc. which people use when
> there is no Debian package at all.
> 
> But it's probably too much work, preparing infrastructure etc.

Why?

> Anyway, relaxing requirements on source code availability,
> building from sources with tools within Debian, free license,
> etc. is not an option for me. Not only in the context of Debian.

I've been doing Debian for so long now but I still cannot grasp the way
discussions are going. How on earth did we get from the technical problem of
how to package large application stacks that come with their own copies of
certain "libraries" to packaging software that is neither free nor open source?
I didn't notice anyone suggesting we should do the latter.

Michael
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

> We cannot feasibly provide security updates when there is more than one
> version of the library in the archive.  We do not, and probably never
> will have, the required manpower.
> 
> This applies to the nixos/guix solutions too -- we cannot expect our
> security team to go around backporting patches to all the different
> versions we're offering to users.

Yeah, I was expecting this point and I don't agree. Well, I do agree on it's
being too much of a burden for us to backport all fixes to each version, but I
do not agree on that being what we need to do.

If we were to package applications as containers (not necessarily
docker-style!) we could and should have different rules for those. Just see
what people will do otherwise, use a Linux distribution and install manually
and then, maybe, update when a fixed version of the application comes out. IMO
we should do exactly the same and make sure the application containers get
update to fixed version as and when possible. For users this means that get
probably better security and easier deployment of whatever application they
need to run. Obviously this needs to be clearly documented.

Michael
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Accepted forensics-extra 1.13 (source) into unstable

[Giovani Augusto Ferreira]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Forensics 
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 forensics-extra-gui - Forensics Environment - extra GUI components 
(metapackage)
 forensics-full - Full forensics station (metapackage)
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 .
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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[W. Martin Borgert]

On 2018-02-16 11:51, Sean Whitton wrote:
> We cannot feasibly provide security updates when there is more than one
> version of the library in the archive.  We do not, and probably never
> will have, the required manpower.
>
> This applies to the nixos/guix solutions too -- we cannot expect our
> security team to go around backporting patches to all the different
> versions we're offering to users.

This is true. We would have to be clear, that security support
would have to be limited to one (the latest?) version. This is
still a difference to some arbitrary compressed js files with no
source code, no copyright information etc. which people use when
there is no Debian package at all.

But it's probably too much work, preparing infrastructure etc.

Anyway, relaxing requirements on source code availability,
building from sources with tools within Debian, free license,
etc. is not an option for me. Not only in the context of Debian.


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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Samuel Thibault]

W. Martin Borgert, on ven. 16 févr. 2018 18:59:21 +0100, wrote:
> If I understand Samuels idea correctly, he likes to

I don't.

I'm just saying what I'm noticing, not what I like.

> This is very much a web application problem. Other software is
> less affected in my experience.

Sure. But the current world is more and more focused on web
applications. If we disconnect from the current world, we'll have a hard
time attracting new people to maintain Debian on the long run.

> Maybe we just have to package JS libraries with their version
> number in the package name in the first place?

Provided the files don't conflict, that's what I suggested, yes (much to
my dismay).

Samuel

Accepted network-console 1.76 (source) into unstable

[Christian Perrier]

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 network-console (1.76) unstable; urgency=medium
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[Troy Heber]

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Sean Whitton]

Hello Michael,

On Fri, Feb 16 2018, Michael Meskes wrote:

> Who said we cannot properly maintain this stuff? And where do you
> think our expected level of quality (whatever that is) will not be
> reached?

We cannot feasibly provide security updates when there is more than one
version of the library in the archive.  We do not, and probably never
will have, the required manpower.

This applies to the nixos/guix solutions too -- we cannot expect our
security team to go around backporting patches to all the different
versions we're offering to users.

-- 
Sean Whitton


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[Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer]

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Accepted golang-github-julienschmidt-httprouter 1.1-5 (source) into unstable

[Michael Stapelberg]

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Version: 1.1-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Go Packaging Team 

Changed-By: Michael Stapelberg 
Description:
 golang-github-julienschmidt-httprouter-dev - High performance HTTP request 
router for Go that scales well
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 golang-github-julienschmidt-httprouter (1.1-5) unstable; urgency=medium
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 netcfg-static - Configure a static network (udeb)
Changes:
 netcfg (1.152) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Arabic (ar.po) by ButterflyOfFire
   * Hebrew (he.po) by Yaron Shahrabani
   * Norwegian Nynorsk (nn.po) by Alexander Jansen
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[Michael Stapelberg]

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Maintainer: Debian Go Packaging Team 

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Description:
 golang-golang-x-oauth2-dev - make OAuth2 authorized and authenticated HTTP 
requests
 golang-golang-x-oauth2-google-dev - Google APIs support for OAuth2
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[Carsten Schoenert]

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Version: 3.4.6+dfsg1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Giraffe Maintainers 

Changed-By: Carsten Schoenert 
Description:
 kopano-webapp-apache2 - WebApp for the Kopano Collaboration Platform - Apache2
 kopano-webapp-common - WebApp for the Kopano Collaboration Platform - common 
files
 kopano-webapp-contactfax - Kopano WebApp fax plugin
 kopano-webapp-folderwidgets - Kopano WebApp folder widgets plugin
 kopano-webapp-gmaps - Kopano WebApp google maps plugin
 kopano-webapp-lighttpd - WebApp for the Kopano Collaboration Platform - 
Lighttpd
 kopano-webapp-nginx - WebApp for the Kopano Collaboration Platform - Nginx
 kopano-webapp-pimfolder - Kopano WebApp personal inbox plugin
 kopano-webapp-quickitems - Kopano WebApp quick items plugin
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 kopano-webapp-webappmanual - Kopano WebApp Manual plugin
 kopano-webapp-zdeveloper - Kopano WebApp developer plugin
Changes:
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 .
   [ Carsten Schoenert ]
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Bug#890610: ITP: jboss-bridger -- Java Bridge Method Maker

[Markus Koschany]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Markus Koschany 

* Package name: jboss-bridger
  Version : 1.4
  Upstream Author : Red Hat Inc.
* URL : https://github.com/dmlloyd/bridger
* License : LGPL-2.1+
  Programming Lang: Java
  Description : Java Bridge Method Maker

When compiling a class or interface that extends a parameterized class
or implements a parameterized interface, the compiler may need to
create a synthetic method. These are also called bridge methods. JBoss
Bridger is a bytecode mangler for creating your own synthetic bridge
methods, which allows more dramatic source code changes while still
maintaining binary compatibility.

JBoss Bridger is a new build-dependency of jboss-modules.

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

Hi Raphael

On 16/02/2018 17:11, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Dolibarr is not alone:
> 
> - while gitlab is packaged in Debian, its packaging took years and the
>   result is brittle because it can break in many ways whenever one the 
>   dozens of dependencies gets updated to some new upstream version
>   (BTW salsa.debian.org does not use the official package)
> 
> - I have the Debian packaging of distro-tracker (the code behind
>   tracker.debian.org) available in the git repository for years
>   but I never released it into Debian because it embeds a few javascript
>   libraries (bootstrap, jquery) and I don't want to validate that
>   it does work with the versions currently in Debian
> 
> I'm sure we are missing lots of good applications due to our requirements.
> What can we do to avoid this?

How can we avoid upstream not making source available for their
binaries? Because this is fundamentally the issue with shipping only
minified javascript without any sources or reference of where it comes
from. This also isn't a problem in Debian, it's a broken JavaScript
ecosystem that's driven by very poor software developers who tend to
want to smack together anything that will work for a little while so
that they can get paid for their work and move on to the next bad project.

> I don't have any definite answers although there are ideas to explore:
> 
> - we could relax our requirements and have a way to document the
>   limitations of those packages (wrt our usual policies)

Which requirements are you referring to? If it's relaxing the need for
source for minified javascript, then no thanks.

> - we could ship those applications not as .deb but as container
>   and let them have their own lifecycle

What would this solve and how will it solve it?

> What do you think? Do you have other ideas? Are there other persons
> who are annoyed by the current situation?

As someone who intends to package software that contains some embedded
low-quality JavaScript code, yes, certainly frustrated. But with the
JavaScript community and their underdeveloped ideas of how software
works, not with Debian.

-Jonathan

-- 
  ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀  Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) 
  ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Debian Developer - https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage
  ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋   https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org
  ⠈⠳⣄  Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.

Accepted gnutls28 3.5.18-1 (source) into unstable

[Andreas Metzler]

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Version: 3.5.18-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian GnuTLS Maintainers 
Changed-By: Andreas Metzler 
Description: 
 gnutls-bin - GNU TLS library - commandline utilities
 gnutls-doc - GNU TLS library - documentation and examples
 libgnutls28-dev - GNU TLS library - development files
 libgnutls30 - GNU TLS library - main runtime library
 libgnutls-dane0 - GNU TLS library - DANE security support
 libgnutls-openssl27 - GNU TLS library - OpenSSL wrapper
 libgnutlsxx28 - GNU TLS library - C++ runtime library
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 .
   * New upstream version.
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[Michael Stapelberg]

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Innocent De Marchi]

Hello everybody,

> 
> I'm sure we are missing lots of good applications due to our
> requirements. What can we do to avoid this?
> 

Is it a goal of Debian to accumulate applications? It is a priority to
offer a robust and solid system: Other Debian derivatives accept
relaxations: I think Debian must maintain its line.

I believe that the right way is to
convince developers of the need to generate applications that respect
the principles of free code.
And another strategy, is to get developers to write "specifically" for
Debian.


Regards!

I. De Marchi

Accepted python-toml 0.9.3-1 (source all) into unstable

[Scott Kitterman]

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Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Ghislain Vaillant]

Le vendredi 16 février 2018 à 16:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> Hello everybody,
> 
> the fact that I had to request the removal of dolibarr from Debian
> makes
> me sad (see below for the reasons) and I believe that we should be
> able
> to do better to provide complex applications to our end users.

I feel your pain too and agree with your assessment.

> Dolibarr is not alone:
> 
> - while gitlab is packaged in Debian, its packaging took years and
> the
>   result is brittle because it can break in many ways whenever one
> the 
>   dozens of dependencies gets updated to some new upstream version
>   (BTW salsa.debian.org does not use the official package)
> 
> - I have the Debian packaging of distro-tracker (the code behind
>   tracker.debian.org) available in the git repository for years
>   but I never released it into Debian because it embeds a few
> javascript
>   libraries (bootstrap, jquery) and I don't want to validate that
>   it does work with the versions currently in Debian
> 
> I'm sure we are missing lots of good applications due to our
> requirements.
> What can we do to avoid this?

The problem also comes from the disconnect between current software
development practices: relying on libraries pinned to a specific
version, or with unstable APIs, or vendored to the code base, and the
ideal proned by Debian: a centralized repository of dependencies which
all applications should be built with.

The situation is particularly visible with the Javascript ecosystem,
but similar problems are appearing in the Python and Ruby world. 

> I don't have any definite answers although there are ideas to
> explore:
> 
> - we could relax our requirements and have a way to document the
>   limitations of those packages (wrt our usual policies)

In particular for non-compiled libraries kept private to the
application. These should represent a lower threat vector than say,
multiple vendored copies of openssl or zlib.

> - we could ship those applications not as .deb but as container
>   and let them have their own lifecycle

Not sure what you mean, but I trust you on that.

> What do you think? Do you have other ideas? Are there other persons
> who are annoyed by the current situation?

Or do our best to support alternative means of installing software such
as docker, snap or flatpak.   

> Cheers,
> 
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Raphaël Hertzog wrote:
> > Package: ftp.debian.org
> > Severity: normal
> > 
> > I'm the usual sponsor of dolibarr in Debian. The maintainer (and
> > upstream author) Eldy Destailleur announced me a few weeks ago that
> > he
> > will no longer be maintaining Dolibarr within Debian because it was
> > too much of a pain to respect all the Debian requirements.
> > 
> > He explained to me that Dolibarr relies on 15 javascripts libraries
> > (some of them
> > are dependencies of the libraries that Dolibarr are using in the
> > first
> > place) and 5 PHP libraries.
> > 
> > Debian's requirement to provide a non-minified copy of the
> > javascript is
> > really hard to meet for him because often the projects are only
> > providing
> > the sources under the form a github link (and not under the form of
> > a non-minified javascript that we could put next to the minified
> > file to
> > please lintian). He would have to spend a lot of times with the
> > different
> > upstreams to get them to provide the non-minified file in a form
> > that is
> > suitable for Debian. It's even likely that his requests would be
> > dismissed
> > by multiple upstream authors leaving him in the inconvenient
> > position of
> > having to remove features to be able to ship a policy-compliant
> > Debian
> > package.
> > 
> > The requirement to use packaged versions of all the libraries is
> > also
> > problematic. More often that not the version used by Dolibarr will
> > not
> > match the version currently available in Debian and it's always a
> > risk
> > to use a different version. Sometimes it will work just fine,
> > sometimes it
> > will break.
> > 
> > Given all those constraints, he decided to stop trying to maintain
> > Dolibarr in Debian and the Dolibarr project will only provide an
> > unofficial .deb embedding all the libraries that they need.
> > 
> > I doubt anyone else is willing to maintain Dolibarr in Debian and
> > I'm
> > thus requesting the package to be removed. Users are better served
> > by the upstream unofficial package rather than by Debian's outdated
> > package (it's outdated due to the difficulty of updating it in a
> > policy-compliant way).
> > 
> > I would hope that we could find a way to get the best of both
> > worlds
> > but right now it seems that we don't have a good solution for that
> > kind
> > of web application.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> 
> 

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

Recently on Planet: https://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/1229

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[W. Martin Borgert]

Quoting Holger Levsen :

I very much disagree that Debian is loosing relevance, like many software
projects Debian usage is still growing. and other projects grow as well.


I agree.


you can use their package managers, and thus these features, on Debian
today. there's also docker containers and other options if you want to
use bundled "stuff".


If I understand Samuels idea correctly, he likes to have multiple
versions of the same (JavaScript) library installed on Debian.
Not "stuff", but proper Debian packages, with all bells and whistles.
Only that you don't remove necessarily the old version, when the new
one comes in. Similar to C libraries, kernel, etc. but with a different
way to actually use the files, of course.

The underlying problem is that:
 - We package a JS library. Everything is fine.
 - A new version comes. Incompatible? Maybe. Probably.
 - If we keep the old version, people complain how outdated we are.
 - If we upgrade the package, both packaged software and customer
   installed programs break.

This is very much a web application problem. Other software is
less affected in my experience.

Maybe we just have to package JS libraries with their version
number in the package name in the first place?

Cheers

Accepted jupp 3.1.35-2 (source) into unstable

[Thorsten Glaser]

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Accepted golang-github-asaskevich-govalidator 4-3 (source) into unstable

[Michael Stapelberg]

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Re: Updating the Maintainer field in preparation for Alioth's shutdown?

[Felipe Sateler]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:10:30 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
>> 3. If a team manages to get a lists.debian.org address, it's
>> recommended that they switch the Maintainer fields in their packages
>> from the Alioth list address to that address, right?
> 
> It depends on your choice. But I would not recommend this. I would
> largely prefer if teams relied on tracker.debian.org to get all the
> automated mails, that way lists on lists.debian.org contain only generic
> discussions.

One problem with this solution[1] is that the usual way to reach out to 
the maintainer is via the mail listed in the Maintainer field. Suppose we 
have the debian-multimedia@l.d.o list for discussion, and we started 
using team+debian-multimedia@t.d.o as Maintainer: address. How is a 
random user supposed to find debian-multimedia@l.d.o ?


[1] Even if we assume the tracker gains the ability to forward mails to 
the team members.

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Samuel Thibault]

Holger Levsen, on ven. 16 févr. 2018 17:25:06 +, wrote:
> > Or we could try to embrace the multiple-library-versions-in-the-same-root
> > issue like distributions such as NixOS and Guix do. 
> 
> you can use their package managers, and thus these features, on Debian
> today. there's also docker containers and other options if you want to
> use bundled "stuff".

Which is where Debian (and other distributions which care about
freeness, security, etc.) has lost relevance for these use cases. And I
see a lot of growth in the use of this stuff, to the point that I wonder
who will still care about the underlying distributions: will young
developers really care about the ground?

I see more and more READMEs on github telling to just use pip install or
such, the host distribution is basically only used to provide a python
interpreter and/or container host.

Samuel

Accepted media-retriever 1.45 (source) into unstable

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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:34:39PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Well, strictly speaking Debian does not actually need to be involved
> then, applications are already doing that. But it's indeed a sign that
> Debian is losing relevance, which is concerning and Debian could have to
> do something about it.
 
I very much disagree that Debian is loosing relevance, like many software 
projects Debian usage is still growing. and other projects grow as well. 
Debian was just again voted best linux distro by linux journal. Debian
(and other traditional distros) surely lost relevance in the "web
hosting plattform" "niche" but even there, in numbers we're still
growing. just container based solutions are much more popular today and
they ease installing crap^wstrange bundles.

> Or we could try to embrace the multiple-library-versions-in-the-same-root
> issue like distributions such as NixOS and Guix do. 

you can use their package managers, and thus these features, on Debian
today. there's also docker containers and other options if you want to
use bundled "stuff".
 

-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

[Michael Meskes]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:12:51AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 04:58:04PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> > I know that this does create some problems for us, e.g. on the security
> > side, but the alternative is, as you mentioned, manually installed
> > software and that surely is worse.
> 
> No, I think it's better if people know they're on their own for maintaining
> something. What's surely worse is when we ship stuff that we know we can't
> properly maintain in the long term. Better to be out of the archive than in
> without the expected level of quality.

Who said we cannot properly maintain this stuff? And where do you think our 
expected level of quality (whatever that is) will not be reached?

Michael
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Accepted thunar 1.6.14-1 (source) into unstable

[Yves-Alexis Perez]

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Accepted golang-github-go-openapi-spec 1:0.0~git20160808.0.6aced65-2 (source) into unstable

[Michael Stapelberg]

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[Michael Stapelberg]

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Accepted golang-github-go-openapi-loads 0.0~git20160704.0.18441df-2 (source) into unstable

[Michael Stapelberg]

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Description:
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Macaron
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Description:
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Description:
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 python3-tmuxp - tmux session manager (Python 3)
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Accepted glib-networking 2.55.90-1 (source) into experimental

[Iain Lane]

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Description:
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 glib-networking-common - network-related giomodules for GLib - data files
 glib-networking-services - network-related giomodules for GLib - D-Bus services
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[Yves-Alexis Perez]

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Version: 0.12.0-1
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Xfce Maintainers 
Changed-By: Yves-Alexis Perez 
Description:
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[Sebastien Delafond]

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Description:
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Accepted xrdp 0.9.5-2 (source amd64) into unstable

[Dominik George]

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:42:50 +0100
Source: xrdp
Binary: xrdp xorgxrdp xrdp-pulseaudio-installer
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.9.5-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Remote Maintainers 
Changed-By: Dominik George 
Description:
 xorgxrdp   - Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) modules for X.org
 xrdp   - Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server
 xrdp-pulseaudio-installer - Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server - PulseAudio 
module installe
Changes:
 xrdp (0.9.5-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Thorsten Glaser ]
 .
   * Re-enable asm code for i386, the fixed upstream is included now.
 .
   [ Dominik George ]
 .
   * Enable vsock.
 + Requested by Craig White and Justin Terry from Microsoft.
   * Fix lintian issues.
 + Use HTTPS copyright format URL.
 + Move source{.,/}lintian-overrides.
 + Replace dh_systemd_start with dh_installsystemd call.
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Accepted python-astropy 2.0.4-1 (source) into unstable

[Ole Streicher]

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:41:12 +0100
Source: python-astropy
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Architecture: source
Version: 2.0.4-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Astronomy Maintainers 

Changed-By: Ole Streicher 
Description:
 python-astropy - Core functionality for performing astrophysics (Python 2 
legacy)
Changes:
 python-astropy (2.0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
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   * New upstream version 2.0.4. Rediff patches
   * Update VCS fields to use salsa.d.o
   * Don't install scripts
   * Push Standards-Version to 4.1.3. No changes needed.
   * Add examples
   * Override privacy-breach-generic lintian false positive
   * Add lintian-overrides for missing Python 3 package
   * Push debhelper compat to 11
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