Accepted debian-edu-config 1.930 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 17:04:34 +0200
Source: debian-edu-config
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Architecture: source
Version: 1.930
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 864663 866228
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.930) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Adjust Samba configuration. (Closes: #864663).
 - Add 'server max protocol = NT1' to be able to join recent clients.
   * Fix configuration of personal web pages. (Closes: #866228).
 - Set right order of linking in cf/cf.apache2.
 - Add conditional code to d/d-e-c.postinst to fix the wrong configuration
   generated via the cfengine run during main server installation
   (introduced in version 1.926).
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Re: Debian built from non-Debian sources

[Holger Levsen]

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:50:48PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> So do I understand it right that you are actively going to test the CD
> build process in a long enough time before the release and send patches
> in time to make sure the changes will be part of the release?
> 
> If not - please stop trolling…
 
I dont understand why this is seen as trolling. We are willing to delay our
release for (certain) serious bugs and here I dont even see how there would 
be much delay, if we had the policy of say requiring a debian-cd upload
(to sid) with the changes made to create the stable upload.

I also think this is basically happening, just not per policy but per Sledge
just doing that work.

And maybe (probably?) there is a case for the Stretch images where one tool
wasnt uploaded yet. Seems like a bug to me too (if thats the case), but not
really a reason for a flamewar nor calling out trolling.

(So also thanks to Jonas *and* Sledge from me, for keeping this thread
constructive for the most part!)


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: Debian built from non-Debian sources

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:09:30AM +0200, Christian Seiler wrote:
> [...] downstreams should be able to reproduce Debian images.
> In the short term only in functionality and not bit-by-bit, but I
> would consider reproducible image builds a worthwhile long-term goal
> after fully reproducible package builds throughout the archive have
> been achieved.
 
fully reproducible images are possible with unreproducible packages,
those two are related+similar but don't depend on each other.

(of course with unreproducible packages in reproducible images you
still need to believe the providers of those unreproducible packages
that they contain what they should contain, but at least the image
can be reproducible…)


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.922~20170715 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Version: 1.922~20170715
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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 debian-edu-doc-de - German documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-en - English documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-es - Spanish documentation from the Debian Edu project
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 debian-edu-doc-ja - Japanese documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-nb - Bokmål documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-nl - Dutch documentation from the Debian Edu project
Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.922~20170715) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual from the wiki.
 .
   [ Victory ]
   * Add xsl:when clause for Chinese translation.
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual from the wiki.
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * Simplified Chinese: Ma Yong.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * Italian: Claudio Carboncini.
   * Dutch: Frans Spiesschaert.
 .
   [ Jessie Manual translation updates ]
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
 .
   [ Audacity manual translation updates ]
   * Simplified Chinese: zhangmiao.
 .
   [ ITIL Manual translation updates ]
   * Simplified Chinese: zhangmiao.
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Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

[Holger Levsen]

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44:47AM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > Previously I could ask a user to do e.g. 'ifconfig wwan0'. Now?
> 
> sudo ip link; sudo ip addr;
 
no need for sudo, this is enough: 

ip link ; ip addr

or even shorter:

ip l ; ip a


-- 
cheers,
Holger, who hasn't really noticed this change much, depite maintaining
*lots* of (different) stretch machines… as long as the machines
are not routers but just desktops or laptops because then
network-manager takes care anyway, and if I have a router I
probably don't use Debian anyway and if I have multiple
interfaces on a server I'm very happy about stable names…
so, meh.


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Re: UMASK 002 or 022?

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 11:56:37AM -0400, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> Ultimately, it wouldn't be as big a deal if it was possible to change the
> default umask for the gnome-session in Debian Stretch.

the fact that it's impossible for you, doesnt mean it's impossible for everyone.

sorry, but this had to be said, you are repeating this nonsense. if you need
help changing this, try debian-u...@lists.debian.org or get paid support.

this list is for the development of debian, thanks.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: Intended MBF: maintainer scripts not using strict mode

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 10:23:56PM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> What is your opinion? Policy says "should", not "must". If you agree
> with the MBF, what do you think would be the appropriate severity?

"normal" if there are no issues and "important" if you've encountered
possible problems.

and thanks for doing this work! I'd appreciate if we could change
policy to "must" one day.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 02:30:24PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> The same complaint can be said about the AMD microcode updates.

quite probably, yes. but that doesn't make any crap any better.


-- 
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Holger


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Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 08:39:10AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> As far as I know, so far OCaml is the only one that was verified to be
> caused by the SKL150 erratum.
[...]

thanks for providing these details.
 

-- 
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Holger


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Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 01:51:25PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > but YOU MUST INSTALL THIS BINARY BLOB
> How is it worse than the blobs already in your hardware?

it opens the door for targeted attacks.


-- 
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Holger


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Re: [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading

[Holger Levsen]

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 09:19:36AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
[...]
> Apparently, Intel had indeed found the issue, *documented it* (see
> below) and *fixed it*.  There was no direct feedback to the OCaml
> people, so they only found about it later.
[...]
> We do not have enough information at this time to know how much software
> out there will trigger this specific defect.
> 
> One important point is that the code pattern that triggered the issue in
> OCaml was present on gcc-generated code.  There were extra constraints
> being placed on gcc by OCaml, which would explain why gcc apparently
> rarely generates this pattern.
> 
> The reported effects of the processor defect were: compiler and
> application crashes, incorrect program behavior, including incorrect
> program output.
> 
> 
> What we know about the microcode updates issued by Intel related to
> these specific errata:
> 
> Fixes for processors with signatures[1] 0x406E3 and 0x506E3 are
> available in the Intel public Linux microcode release 20170511.  This
> will fix only Skylake processors with model 78 stepping 3, and model 94
> stepping 3.  The fixed microcode for these two processor models reports
> revision 0xb9/0xba, or higher.
> 
> Apparently, these errata were fixed by microcode updates issued in early
> April/2017.  Based on this date range, microcode revision 0x5d/0x5e (and
> higher) for Kaby Lake processors with signatures 0x806e9 and 0x906e9
> *might* fix the issue.  We do not have confirmation about which
> microcode revision fixes Kaby Lake at this time.

so in conclusion: don't buy intel. At least in future.

I must say I'm utterly disappointed by this crap. "hey there is a hug bug, we
dont tell you what it is exactly, or how we fixed it, but YOU MUST INSTALL THIS
BINARY BLOB TO FIX IT. (and btw, this is for skylake, for kaby lake, ahem, 
maybe,
we have no idea, but do install that crap^wblob too.")

Are there any other public bug reports which got fixed by this, or is the
ocaml issue the only known issue which gets fixed by installing this microcode
update?


(and I hope this were obvious, but I guess it's not, so: I'm saying Intel sold 
and
still is selling us crap here, not Henrique, who tiredlessly tries to help 
dealing
with that crap. Thank you, Henrique, for this, that's really nice of you.)

-- 
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Holger, hardware *is* software…


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Re: Switch default installation image link?

[Holger Levsen]

On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 09:38:29AM -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
> Personally, I would only ever download a DVD image if I was on a *slow*
> connection and knew that I had to install to multiple machines.
 
still then, I would rather use netinst plus a proxy…


-- 
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Holger


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Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 03:03:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Recommends bloat as a whole is a serious problem for the whole
> project. 

I disagree.
 
Both from my personal POV as well as from the feedback I get from Debian
users. There are many things in Debian being complained about, "recommends
bloat" is not among them.


-- 
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Holger


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Accepted piuparts 0.77 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Source: piuparts
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Architecture: source
Version: 0.77
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: piuparts developers team <piuparts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 piuparts   - .deb package installation, upgrading, and removal testing tool
 piuparts-common - common piuparts components
 piuparts-master - piuparts master components
 piuparts-slave - piuparts slave components
Closes: 859929 860819
Changes:
 piuparts (0.77) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Andreas Beckmann ]
   * distros.conf:
 - Add aliases for oldstable and oldoldstable.
 - Update aliases for stretch being released as stable.
   * piuparts.py:
 - Add to ignored_files:
   + /etc/rc.local
   + /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config  (Closes: #859929)
   + /var/lib/apt/daily_lock
   * piuparts-analyze.py:
 - Do not ignore Ctrl-C.
   * scripts/post_distupgrade_base_cleanup: Remove (transitional) sysvinit from
 stretch.  (Closes: #860819)
   * scripts/pre_distupgrade_zz_database-server: Do not migrate manually from
 mysql-server to default-mysql-server (aka mariadb-server), there is now a
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 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * piuparts-report.py:
 - update navigation to point to piuparts.conf-template.pejacevic.
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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.921~20170603 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.921~20170603) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual from the wiki.
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Dutch: Frans Spiesschaert.
   * Japanese: Victory.
 .
   [ Jessie Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
 .
   [ Rosegarden Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 863657
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.929) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Fix exim4 environment configuration. (Closes: #863657).
 - The cfengine exim4-create-environment shellscript is executed too
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[Holger Levsen]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-install - Set d-i values to install Debian Edu without questions
 debian-edu-install-udeb - Execute Debian Edu debian-installer profile (udeb)
 debian-edu-profile-udeb - Choose Debian Edu profile (udeb)
Changes:
 debian-edu-install (1.916) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Set version number to 9+edu0 in preparation of the Debian Stretch release,
 which for the first time could also mark the Debian Edu Stretch release at
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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.920~20170528 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.920~20170528) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual from the wiki.
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * Simplified Chinese: Ma Yong.
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin, Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Italian: Claudio Carboncini.
   * Japanese: Victory.
 .
   [ Jessie Manual translation updates ]
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin, Petter Reinholdtsen.
 .
   [ Audacity manual translation updates ]
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
 .
   [ Rosegarden Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin.
 .
   [ ITIL Manual translation updates ]
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[Holger Levsen]

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Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 863176
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.928) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Fix Makefile, include exim4 tools. (Closes: #863176).
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Re: infinite number of Debian workflows (Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth?)

[Holger Levsen]

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:34:09PM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:38:29PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> > I have to deal with packages in svn, git-bp and plain git, and have started 
> > to
> > write a set of (ugly) scripts that perform common actions in each of those
> > formats, and a generic wrapper that calls the right one depending on which 
> > repo
> > I'm on, so that I can just do e.g. 'deb update; dch; deb commit; deb build; 
> > deb
> > release; deb tag' and not having to remember all the different command line
> > switches and options and so on (I have a bad memory and am lazy). This 
> > shouldn't
> > be necessary in the first place; at least a bit of homogenization would make
> > sense imho.
> This is pretty much exactly the point of dgit.

I actually thought that Emilio reinvented mr (but then realized it's mr plus
yet another release-wrapper ;-)


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted anarchism 15.0-2 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Description:
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Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth?

[Holger Levsen]

Hi Andreas,

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 09:07:53AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > I think that in the mid-term (probably even in short term) you'll *save*
> > developer time by switching to git,
> And your thinking is based on what arguments?  

a.) git is a lot faster than svn on most operations, which btw does not allow
one to get things done faster, but also enables one to do things which one
would never do with svn… (because its just so damn slow…)

b.) if one needs to know and use several scm tools, one will make more mistakes
using those tools (as you explained in the mail I'm replying to…)

> > I'd be happy if Debian would enforce git for every source package now!
> 
> I'm willing to adapt to such decision but I feel my time totally wasted
> to do a SVN versus Git flamewar (and this is my last mail regarding
> this).
 
oh, yes, surely a flamewar helps noone. just to make a good decision one
needs to discuss, and again, best without flamewars! :)
 
> I fully agree and I'm known for team highjacking packages into Git
> repositories in several cases (and was also critizised about doing so).

I applaud you for doing so.

> > And probably we should all just use git.
> If we really could agree upon a common workflow I will definitely adapt.
> But there is no such agreement as far as I can see.

quite probably there will always be some with who will not use debhelper,
not use version control, ignore bugs in stable, dont tests their uploads, 
doing foo, but that shouldnt stop everybody else from agreeing on things.

>  Please take my
> previous mail rather as an explanation for the current state than my
> definite wish to keep the status quo under any circumstance.

happily noted. also noted that half of the packages you're uploading to main
*are* maintained in git :) (and the other half svn… /me likes stats too much :)
 

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Holger


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infinite number of Debian workflows (Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth?)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:52:34AM +, Riku Voipio wrote:
> Right now, if you have a minor change - such fixing Homepage: or typo on
> definition, it's not as straitforward as submitting a pull request. And
> it gets much worse if you want to patch against upstream or build a new
> upstream version. Every maintainer has their own preferred workflow which
> a new contributor needs to adapt to.

_this_!

I can totally confirm this. When people ask me how to get foo fixed in Debian
and I start explaining the above, people role their eyes and point to this:

> [...] But for better or worse, there is now a generation that has
> become used to github style use. And if we want avoid Debian becoming an
> old grumpy mens club, we have cater for them.

and then most of these people move on without bothering trying to fix it.

there have been a few trying to stick around but often they dont know where
to move on, as there is no "Debian workflow", no "Debian manual", there's just
a hundred Debian workflows to maintain a package and 200 manuals for that.

The nice thing about standards is *not* that there are so many to choose from.


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Holger


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Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth?

[Holger Levsen]

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:19:24PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> In short:  There is no doubt that Git is the better VCS but spending
> developer time simply to switch lots of packages from an old VCS to a
> modern one has zero effect on users desktops and has no high priority.
 
I think that in the mid-term (probably even in short term) you'll *save*
developer time by switching to git, so that actually right now your choice
to not switch to git has an effect on users desktops: they get stuff later.

And also you're imposing a stupid tool to anyone who wants to help out or
do security fixes.

I'd be happy if Debian would enforce git for every source package now!

git clone https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/${srcpkg}.git is really
awesome and works for every package in Fedora! (*)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines says:


 Spec Maintenance and Canonicity

Fedora's git repository is the canonical location for Fedora spec files. 
Maintainers MUST expect that other maintainers and automated tooling will
make changes to their packages, potentially without communicating prior to
doing so (though communication is always encouraged). If some maintainers
are also attempting to keep copies of a spec in an outside repository, they
MUST be prepared to merge changes made to the spec in Fedora's repository,
and MUST NOT overwrite those changes with a copy from an external repository
or using fedpkg import. 



Debian aims to be the universal OS, but that doesn't mean we have to support
an universe of workflows and tools. Everybody should be using version 
control for their packages. Really. And probably we should all just use git.
And work together nicely.


-- 
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Holger

(*) even though I wonder why it's not even more simply 
git.fedoraproject.org/git/${srcpkg} ;)


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Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 08:01:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> A good page is one that lets you find information quickly, [...]

which sadly www.debian.org doesnt deliver. I still use the sitemap to find
*anything*… and even with that, I still also resort to bookmarks 
and search engines.

it's not the css, it's the content and the structure which is lacking.


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Holger


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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 862652
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.927) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Fix broken exim4 configuration, enable security. (Closes: #862652).
 - Add usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/exim4-create-cert.
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 - Adjust etc/exim4/exim-ldap-server-v4.conf.
   + Make it work after the exim4 security fix for CVE-2016-1531.
   + Improve security: create certificate to enable TLS, re-enable
 identity check via Kerberos; now only system mail to postmaster
 is enabled unconditionally; see #794602.
   * Fix typo in testsuite/network to use the correct LTSP-Server profile name.
   * Drop ddcprobe and ddccontrol related code from testsuite/hardware.
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Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth?

[Holger Levsen]

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:06:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> $ for type in arch bzr cvs darcs git hg mtn svn; do
> > printf '%s: ' $type
> > grep-dctrl -FVcs-$type -sPackage 'debian.org' 
> > /var/lib/apt/lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_*_Sources \
> > | wc -l
> > done \
> > | sort -k2 -nr
> git: 18907
> svn: 2377
> bzr: 71
> hg: 27
> darcs: 22
> arch: 7
> cvs: 2
> mtn: 0

thanks for this useful stats, Ben!

cvs is also used by the Debian website, which migration to GIT is
tracked at https://wiki.debian.org/WebsiteGitTransition by Laura.

(just wanting to say that we don't wanna shutdown cvs.debian.org while
www.debian.org still needs it to be build…)


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Holger


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Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth?

[Holger Levsen]

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:49:34AM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Alitoh is 90% simple git hosting, 5% managing push access to git repos,
> and 5% mailing lists. 

I think you are forgetting about the other 90% of the work here…

And that is a really huge task, I'm wondering whether actually a GR might be
a useful tool for this:

 [1] Yes, we should shutdown 
(cvs|svn|git|bzr|$some_more|$actually_a_lot_project_pages|lists).alioth.debian.org
 
 and many many cronjobs on 2018-12-31 and make it readonly on 2018-05-31
 (=end of wheezy LTS).
 [2] further discussion.

If we had this GR in say, a month, projects would have almost a year to migrate
their stuff away nicely, and 18 months to do it a bit more painfully.

And it would give the current alioth maintainer(s?) moral support to do what
technically seems somewhat unavoidable…

The difficulty I here see in wording of the GR, which should not become
bikeshedding, eg. I would leave out such details like how to deal with existing
useraccounts…

My idea with the GR is to give the alioth maintainers moral support
to shutdown this system, which served us well for so long, now & properly.

Maybe a mailinglist discussion is sufficient for this too ;-)

(All this assuming upgrading it is *really* a hopeless task… somewhat I dont
think it is, eg I guess one could put the app into a container and upgrade the
host to jessie and then stretch… but I would really love a clean restart too.
Having a git repo for every Debian package by default and design would
be lovely, despite git is broken because of sha1, yada yada yada.)

I somewhat got distracted from writing a short answer about how some other 90%
are missing in the above "simple description". Guess it's way more complicated
after all… so, thanks to all past and current alioth maintainers, I'd like my 
bikeshed blue & new & shiny. ;-)


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Holger


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Description:
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Changes:
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Re: policy for shipping sysctl.d snippets in packages?

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 11:09:26AM +0200, Christian Seiler wrote:
> My point is just the following: this is really nothing new.
> Some packages have been doing things like this for over a
> decade.

Thanks for coming up with these facts. 

(Much more interesting than developers of "system A" discussing how
"system A" is better than "system B"…)

> And as I said in other places in this thread: I personally
> think that the separate /usr <-> /etc scheme is much better
> than just storing everything in /etc, so I would really
> prefer if as much software as possible would switch to that,
> but do it consistently, [...]
 
agreed.


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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.919~20170429 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.919~20170429) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Simplified Chinese: Roy Zhang, Ma Yong.
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin, Ole-Erik Yrvin, Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Dutch: Frans Spiesschaert.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
 .
   [ Jessie Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin, Ole-Erik Yrvin, Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
 .
   [ ITIL Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin, Ole-Erik Yrvin.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual from the wiki.
   * Remove alternative build-dependency ttf-wqy-zenhei as it's also a
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Accepted debian-edu 1.924 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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applications
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applications
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installs
 education-lang-it-desktop-kde - Italian Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-ja - Debian Edu applications for Japanese installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Japanese 
installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop-kde - Japanese Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-no - Debian Edu applications for Norwegian installs
 education-lang-no-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Norwegian 
installs
 education-lang-no-desktop-kde - Norwegian (Bokmaal and Nynorsk) Debian Edu KDE 
desktop applicatio
 education-lang-se - Debian Edu applications for North Sami installs
 education-lang-zh-tw - Debian Edu applications for Traditional Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Traditional 
Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop-kde - Traditional Chinese Debian Edu KDE desktop 
applications
 education-language - Debian Edu language related educational applications
 education-laptop - Debian Edu laptop packages
 education-logic-games - Debian Edu logic games
 education-ltsp-server - Debian Edu networked LTSP server packages
 ed

Accepted debian-edu-config 1.926 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:23:11 +0200
Source: debian-edu-config
Binary: debian-edu-config
Architecture: source
Version: 1.926
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 859809
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.926) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * etc/firefox-esr/debian-edu.js: set mailto handler to thunderbird instead
 of icedove.
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Remove userdir.load symlink from d/debian-edu-config.links, use 
cf/cf.apache
 to provide it. Thanks to Andreas Beckmann. (Closes: #859809)
   * Fix typo in testsuite/taskpkgs to use the correct profile name.
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Accepted munin 2.999.6-3 (source) into experimental

[Holger Levsen]

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munin-plugins-irc munin-plugins-dns munin-plugins-mail munin-plugins-time 
munin-plugins-network munin-plugins-jenkins libmunin-perl libmunin-master-perl 
libmunin-node-perl libmunin-plugin-perl libmunin-plugin-http-perl 
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Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 libmunin-master-perl - perl modules for munin master
 libmunin-node-perl - perl module Munin::Node
 libmunin-perl - common perl modules for munin
 libmunin-plugin-http-perl - perl bindings for HTTP munin plugins
 libmunin-plugin-perl - perl bindings for munin plugins
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 munin-plugins-extra - community contributed plugins for munin node
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 munin-plugins-irc - munin plugins for monitoring IRC servers
 munin-plugins-jenkins - munin plugins for monitoring the Jenkins CI server
 munin-plugins-ldap - munin plugins for monitoring LDAP servers
 munin-plugins-mail - munin plugins for monitoring mail servers
 munin-plugins-mysql - munin plugins for monitoring MySQL
 munin-plugins-network - munin plugins for monitoring network traffic
 munin-plugins-pgsql - munin plugins for monitoring PostgreSQL
 munin-plugins-snmp - munin plugins for monitoring remote devices with SNMP
 munin-plugins-time - munin plugins for monitoring NTP servers and 
synchronization
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 .
   * Fix typoed package name, it's libio-string-perl, not libo-string-perl.
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Accepted munin 2.999.6-2 (source) into experimental

[Holger Levsen]

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munin-plugins-irc munin-plugins-dns munin-plugins-mail munin-plugins-time 
munin-plugins-network munin-plugins-jenkins libmunin-perl libmunin-master-perl 
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Version: 2.999.6-2
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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 libmunin-node-perl - perl module Munin::Node
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 munin-node - network-wide graphing framework (node)
 munin-plugins-core - network-wide graphing framework (plugins for node)
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synchronization
Closes: 860879
Changes:
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 .
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Re: 132 packages with several sources for stretch in the archive… (Re: Bug#860608: [pkg-golang-devel] Bug#860608: golang: FTBFS: Go version is "go1.6.1", ignoring -next /<>/api/next.txt)

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:44:40PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote:
> I don't think this number is bad per-se (assuming this extra_source_only
> just meant it has "Build-Using"). The bad thing in my opinion is when
> multiple version are kept around for a long time. 

I consider the life time of stretch to be long, you don't?

Are security updates supposed to be build using the most current source
package in stretch or the one specified in "Build-Using"?


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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132 packages with several sources for stretch in the archive… (Re: Bug#860608: [pkg-golang-devel] Bug#860608: golang: FTBFS: Go version is "go1.6.1", ignoring -next /<>/api/next.txt)

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00:20PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> FYI, that's the number of additional copies of source packages in
> stretch, per source package:
> 
> udd=> select source, count(*) from sources where release='stretch' and
> component='main' and extra_source_only group by source order by count
> desc;
[...]
> (132 rows)

that's quite astounding (to me) and IMHO also quite bad… can we do something
to fix this for Buster at least?

reply-to: set to debian-devel@…


-- 
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Holger


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Re: Fwd: can anyone review diaspora-installer?

[Holger Levsen]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 09:42:33AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Finally, as Lars pointed out, running 
> /usr/lib/diaspora-common/scripts/diaspora-download.sh
> in postinst is both horrible from a security point of view, plus it's a
> policy violation, so that's two more RC bugs.

diasporo-installer is in contrib, so running this script is not a policy
violation…

(the rest of my mail stil stands…)


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Holger


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Re: Fwd: can anyone review diaspora-installer?

[Holger Levsen]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 11:17:26AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> Current version in unstable does not have any RC bugs, 

*filed*, as this very thread shows. It *has* RC bugs.

oh, and you seem to miss #856720 which is a open RC bug.

> Losing diaspora-installer after putting years long effort would be very
> demotivating.

being in a freeze and seing 5-6 uploads trying to get the package in
shape while introducing more RC bugs doing so is also very demotivating for
the release team, who's job it is not, to teach you good packaging,.

Really, this "userdel -r diaspora" pointed out in the first reply
to this thread is again, horrible. Granted, it's not as bad as #858521
(which you *introduced* during freeze…) but: imagine your username aint 
pirate but diaspora and you try out this package and purge it…

Finally, as Lars pointed out, running 
/usr/lib/diaspora-common/scripts/diaspora-download.sh
in postinst is both horrible from a security point of view, plus it's a
policy violation, so that's two more RC bugs.

I'm sorry for all the work you put into this, but I'm absolutly *thankful*
to the release team for kicking this package out of Stretch.


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Accepted debian-edu-config 1.925 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Version: 1.925
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 859405
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.925) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Adjust sbin/update-hostname-from-ip to work with changed ifconfig output.
 (Closes: #859405)
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Accepted debian-edu 1.923 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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education-main-server education-mathematics education-misc education-music 
education-networked education-networked-common education-physics 
education-roaming-workstation education-services education-standalone 
education-thin-client
 education-workstation
Architecture: source
Version: 1.923
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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 education-chemistry - Debian Edu chemistry related applications
 education-common - Debian Edu common packages
 education-desktop-gnome - Debian Edu GNOME desktop applications
 education-desktop-kde - Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
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applications
 education-electronics - Debian Edu electronics related applications
 education-geography - Debian Edu applications for geography
 education-graphics - Debian Edu graphics related applications
 education-lang-da - Debian Edu applications for Danish installs
 education-lang-da-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Danish installs
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 education-lang-de - Debian Edu applications for German installs
 education-lang-de-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for German installs
 education-lang-de-desktop-kde - German Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-es - Debian Edu applications for Spanish installs
 education-lang-es-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Spanish 
installs
 education-lang-es-desktop-kde - Spanish Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-fr - Debian Edu applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop-kde - French Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-he - Debian Edu applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop-kde - Hebrew Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-it - Debian Edu applications for Italian installs
 education-lang-it-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Italian 
installs
 education-lang-it-desktop-kde - Italian Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-ja - Debian Edu applications for Japanese installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Japanese 
installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop-kde - Japanese Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-no - Debian Edu applications for Norwegian installs
 education-lang-no-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Norwegian 
installs
 education-lang-no-desktop-kde - Norwegian (Bokmaal and Nynorsk) Debian Edu KDE 
desktop applicatio
 education-lang-se - Debian Edu applications for North Sami installs
 education-lang-zh-tw - Debian Edu applications for Traditional Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Traditional 
Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop-kde - Traditional Chinese Debian Edu KDE desktop 
applications
 education-language - Debian Edu language related educational applications
 education-laptop - Debian Edu laptop packages
 education-logic-games - Debian Edu logic games
 education-ltsp-server - Debian Edu networked LTSP server packages
 ed

Re: System libraries and the GPLv2

[Holger Levsen]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:27:46AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> What really annoys me about this whole situation is this: I think no
> one presently argues that the GPLv2 prevents people from distributing
> pre-built binaries for proprietary operating systems.  I can take
> Hotspot (a component of OpenJDK which is GPLv2-only), compile it with
> Microsoft Visual Studio, and distribute the result.  But I suddenly
> can't ship pre-built binaries, as a free software distribution,
> because I happen to have upgraded the system compiler past GCC 4.2,
> thus got the new GPLv3+ license for libgcc, and can't link GPLv2-only
> Hotspot against that anymore.  This can't be right, can it?

well, yes and no. By design GPLv3 is incompatible with GPLv2-only,
so this is "right" in the sense that it works as intended. It's also a
major fuckup for some GPLv2-only users (as you just described), which
as a result made *me* like+trust the FSF and the GPL less.

(And which then also resulted in me choosing GPLv2-only over GPLv2 or GPLv3
more often.)

By now I also think these "or any future version" clauses are… brave.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: convention on listen port local or all network interfaces etc. - revision 2

[Holger Levsen]

Hi Patrick,

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:22:00AM +, Patrick Schleizer wrote:
> A convention on listen port local or all network interfaces etc. would
> be desirable.

I agree, though I'm not sure we can get consensus on this…

However, I also think that you should restart this discussion once stretch has
been released. Now it's not the best time to have such discussions…

> Any questions? Any suggestions? What do you think?
> 
> Feedback on the ticket [0] and pull requests on the repository [1] are
> welcome.
 
(I haven't looked at neither…) but I'd suggest you file a bug against the
"general" pseudo-package in the Debian BTS as that's a more proper place to
discuss changes in Debian.

Thanks!


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted debian-edu 1.922 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.918~20170326 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Architecture: source
Version: 1.918~20170326
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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 debian-edu-doc-ja - Japanese documentation from the Debian Edu project
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Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.918~20170326) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Dutch: Frans Spiesschaert.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Simplified Chinese: Roy Zhang, Ma Yong.
   * Japanese: Victory.
   * Italian: Claudio Carboncini.
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin, Ole-Erik Yrvin.
 .
   [ Jessie Manual translation updates ]
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
 .
   [ ITIL Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Ingrid Yrvin, Ole-Erik Yrvin.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual from the wiki.
   * Update debian/copyright from the wiki.
   * Drop Debian Edu Wheezy manual. Starting today, this is only(+still)
 maintained in the jessie branch which gets uploaded to Debian jessie for
 point releases. Many thanks to everyone contributing to it!
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   * Update documentation/audacity/README.audacity-manual-translations.
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Description:
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Closes: 847571
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 smarty-lexer (3.1.30+dfsg1-1.1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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[Holger Levsen]

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lib
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Closes: 819893
Changes:
 cyrus-sasl2 (2.1.27~101-g0780600+dfsg-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * NMU to help with #856847.
 .
   [ Andreas Beckmann ]
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Re: The deal with our old logo[s?] (the penguin one)

[Holger Levsen]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 09:23:47PM -0700, Michael Lustfield wrote:
> Where can i read more about our logo's history? (at least for how long they
> were used)

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-detailed.en.html#s4.3
has some info about when the swirl logo was introduced but nothing about the
old "chicken" logo… (nobody called it the "penguin logo" - it was a chicken!)

"reportbug src:debian-history" once we recovered more knowledge! :)


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Holger


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Accepted debian-edu 1.921 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:35:18 +0100
Source: debian-edu
Binary: education-tasks education-menus education-thin-client-server 
education-astronomy education-chemistry education-common 
education-desktop-gnome education-desktop-kde education-desktop-lxde 
education-desktop-mate education-desktop-other education-desktop-xfce 
education-development education-electronics education-geography 
education-graphics education-lang-da education-lang-da-desktop 
education-lang-da-desktop-kde education-lang-de education-lang-de-desktop 
education-lang-de-desktop-kde education-lang-es education-lang-es-desktop 
education-lang-es-desktop-kde education-lang-fr education-lang-fr-desktop 
education-lang-fr-desktop-kde education-lang-he education-lang-he-desktop 
education-lang-he-desktop-kde education-lang-it education-lang-it-desktop 
education-lang-it-desktop-kde education-lang-ja education-lang-ja-desktop 
education-lang-ja-desktop-kde education-lang-no education-lang-no-desktop 
education-lang-no-desktop-kde education-lang-se education-lang-zh-tw
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop education-lang-zh-tw-desktop-kde 
education-language education-laptop education-logic-games education-ltsp-server 
education-main-server education-mathematics education-misc education-music 
education-networked education-networked-common education-physics 
education-roaming-workstation education-services education-standalone 
education-thin-client
 education-workstation
Architecture: source
Version: 1.921
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 education-astronomy - Debian Edu astronomy related applications
 education-chemistry - Debian Edu chemistry related applications
 education-common - Debian Edu common packages
 education-desktop-gnome - Debian Edu GNOME desktop applications
 education-desktop-kde - Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-desktop-lxde - Debian Edu LXDE desktop applications
 education-desktop-mate - Debian Edu MATE desktop applications
 education-desktop-other - Debian Edu non-GNOME- and non-KDE-specific desktop 
applications
 education-desktop-xfce - Debian Edu Xfce desktop applications
 education-development - Debian Edu software development related educational 
applications
 education-electronics - Debian Edu electronics related applications
 education-geography - Debian Edu applications for geography
 education-graphics - Debian Edu graphics related applications
 education-lang-da - Debian Edu applications for Danish installs
 education-lang-da-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Danish installs
 education-lang-da-desktop-kde - Danish Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-de - Debian Edu applications for German installs
 education-lang-de-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for German installs
 education-lang-de-desktop-kde - German Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-es - Debian Edu applications for Spanish installs
 education-lang-es-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Spanish 
installs
 education-lang-es-desktop-kde - Spanish Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-fr - Debian Edu applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop-kde - French Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-he - Debian Edu applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop-kde - Hebrew Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-it - Debian Edu applications for Italian installs
 education-lang-it-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Italian 
installs
 education-lang-it-desktop-kde - Italian Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-ja - Debian Edu applications for Japanese installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Japanese 
installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop-kde - Japanese Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-no - Debian Edu applications for Norwegian installs
 education-lang-no-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Norwegian 
installs
 education-lang-no-desktop-kde - Norwegian (Bokmaal and Nynorsk) Debian Edu KDE 
desktop applicatio
 education-lang-se - Debian Edu applications for North Sami installs
 education-lang-zh-tw - Debian Edu applications for Traditional Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Traditional 
Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop-kde - Traditional Chinese Debian Edu KDE desktop 
applications
 education-language - Debian Edu language related educational applications
 education-laptop - Debian Edu laptop packages
 education-logic-games - Debian Edu logic games
 education-ltsp-server - Debian Edu networked LTSP server packages
 ed

Accepted piuparts 0.76 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 17:55:07 +0100
Source: piuparts
Binary: piuparts piuparts-master piuparts-slave piuparts-common
Architecture: source
Version: 0.76
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: piuparts developers team <piuparts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 piuparts   - .deb package installation, upgrading, and removal testing tool
 piuparts-common - common piuparts components
 piuparts-master - piuparts master components
 piuparts-slave - piuparts slave components
Closes: 841157 848186 850917 854317 855038
Changes:
 piuparts (0.76) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Andreas Beckmann ]
   * piuparts.py:
 - Add to ignored_files:
   + /usr/share/texmf/ls-R
 - Remove from ignored_files:
   - /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-removed-keys.gpg~
 - Do not require --scriptsdir for proper operation.  (Closes: #855038)
 - Make install_over_symlink tests fail by default, add
   --warn-on-install-over-symlink option to demote this to a warning.
 - Add --install-suggests option.
 - Fall back to generating the reference chroot state on-the-fly if the
   --end-meta file is missing.
 - Make logged command lines shell-safe with pipes.quote().
   * piuparts.conf:
 - Use --warn-on-install-over-symlink for tests ending before stretch.
 - Enable scripts-log-alternatives for [sid] and [stretch].  (See: #850917)
 - Add new suite: wheezy222testing, upgrading wheezy -> jessie -> stretch.
   * piuparts.conf.anbe: Add some more example sections.
   * distros.conf: Add support for sid-debug, stretch-debug.
   * piuparts-slave.py:
 - Replace literal ESC (0x1b) chars with string '[ESC]' for easier
   copy+paste from logfiles.
 - Make logged command lines shell-safe with pipes.quote().
   * piuparts-analyze.py:
 - Also process untestable/*.log.
   * instances/*: Generate the config files piuparts.conf.pejacevic,
 piuparts.conf.piu-slave-bm-a, piuparts.conf.piu-slave-ubc-01 (new) and
 piuparts.conf.piu-slave-1und1-01 (unused) from a common template to keep
 the settings in sync, since they should only differ in mirror and arch.
   * Clean up leftover /etc/piuparts/scripts/post_setup_experimental.
 (Closes: #854317)
   * scripts/post_setup_minimize:
 - Exclude gcc-4.8-base from jessie chroot.
   * scripts/pre_install_database-server: Add/fix some database requirements.
   * scripts/pre_distupgrade_zz_database-server: Switch from mysql-server to
 default-mysql-server (aka mariadb-server) for selected packages on
 upgrades to stretch, otherwise they will lose their database server.
 Try 'dpkg --configure --pending' after failed upgrades in case the
 database server was started too late - after a client tried to access it.
   * scripts/pre_remove_40_find_missing_md5sums: Correctly escape backslashes
 in filenames.
   * scripts/pre_remove_exceptions: Handle removal of more packages pulling in
 'init'.
   * Add/update exceptions for ancient packages in
 scripts/is_testable_uninstallable, scripts/pre_install_exceptions, and
 scripts/post_distupgrade_exceptions.
   * master-bin/detect_piuparts_issues: Recognize more cases of full disks.
   * master-bin/detect_network_issues: Recognize unauthenticated packages.
   * Add known_problems/problems_and_no_force_issue.conf to recognize non-fatal
 failures when attempting to remove essential packages.
   * Add bug template for failing to upgrade from testing to sid.
   * Add bug template for shipping broken symlinks.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * piuparts.py:
 - Apply patch from Maxime Lareo to allow usage of --keep-sources-list
   without --basetgz. (Closes: #841157)
 - Add to ignored_patterns:
   + /srv/.* (Closes: #848186)
 - Add my copyright note according to git blame.
   * Add python (>= 2.7) to the depends of piuparts-master and piuparts-slave
 as dh-python has been changed to only add python depends if it finds
 python code in PATH. Thanks lintian.
   * Replace httpredir.debian.org with deb.debian.org everywhere: with deb.d.o
 apt will use SRV records to go directly to the mirror, with httpredir.d.o
 there will be http redirects for every file.
   * slave_run: Fix bug which prevented a different number of slaves to be
 started than defined in the configuration. Also add a check to ensure that
 this optional argument is an integer and within the defined maximum number
 of slaves.
   * slave_stop: New script to stop all piuparts-slaves on a host.
   * slave_stop.8: Add new manpage for this new script, also update slave_run.8
 to mention slave_stop.8.
   * Update README_pejacevic.txt and README_server.txt.
   * Drop instances/piuparts.conf.lamarr and …/piuparts.conf.goldwasser.
   * htdocs/index.tpl:
 - Announce 2nd piuparts-slave, explain this is a three host setu

Re: Depends/Recommends from libraries

[Holger Levsen]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 10:14:13AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Well, I strongly disagree with you.  I think this would take things in the
> wrong direction; I like that software is fully useful when Recommends are
> enabled at the cost of some bloat.
> 
> If you don't want possibly unused software installed, we have a supported
> mechanism for that: disable automatic installation of Recommends.
> 
> That said, it's certainly still fine to question individual choices, and
> to request a downgrade to Suggests if the provided benefit is marginal.
 
FWIW, +1 on everything here.


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Holger


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Fwd: Virus spam in the bug tracker

[Holger Levsen]

- Forwarded message from Francois Gouget  -

Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:23:52 +0100 (CET)
From: Francois Gouget 
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Virus spam in the bug tracker
User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07)
List-Id: 


This has been mentionned before but today I discovered that a lot of 
Debian bugs have a bunch of spam emails on their tail end. What's worse, 
these actually contain a virus in an attachment.

Do a web search for:

site:bugs.debian.org FedEx
site:bugs.debian.org USPS delivery
site:bugs.debian.org UPS delivery

Since these date back to about 3 to 6 months ago I wonder if the 
administrators missed them. I reported a few dozen of them but it looks 
like something that administrators could cleanup much more efficiently 
since all these spams are very similar (bug #854201 discusses 
spamassassin rules to block them).

Essentially any email that contains the words "FedEX", "USPS" or "UPS", 
and the word "delivery" and a zip or doc attachment contains a virus.

It also feels like this is the sort of email that could have been 
trivially blocked with an anti-virus before ever reaching the BTS.

-- 
Francois Gouget   http://fgouget.free.fr/
   If it stinks, it's chemistry. If it moves, it's biology.
  If it does not work, it's computer science.


- End forwarded message -

-- 
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Holger


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Re: Non-free RFCs in stretch

[Holger Levsen]

On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 04:40:15PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
[...] 
> I would like to shelve this suggestion.  The concept of
> antimetapackages can certainly be used this way from a technical point
> of view, but I think the goal there is controversial.  Maintainers of
> packages currently in main would probably resist the introduction of
> antimetapackage tags.
> 
> Whereas the goal of enabling finer control over nonfree is, I think,
> fairly uncontroversial.

I'm not so sure whether this goal is uncontroversial, this is Debian… ;)

> So do you think we should proceed with that ?

Please not like this. while I *might* share the goal, I think this 
implementation is IMHO rather horrible. "antimetapackages" sounds unclear at
best and the whole concept is *way* too complicated.

plus, we have something complicated which can achieve the wanted effect today
already: apt pining.

I think Debian has better things to do than working on fine grained control
over non-free stuff. Obviously anybody is free to work on this, but I dont
think we should make our repositories, packages, policies and workflow s
much more complicated and harder to understand, for very little gain.


-- 
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Holger


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Accepted debian-edu-artwork 0.902-3 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 17:22:48 +0100
Source: debian-edu-artwork
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Architecture: source
Version: 0.902-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-artwork - Debian Edu themes and artwork
 debian-edu-artwork-lines - Debian Edu Lines (jessie) themes and artwork
 debian-edu-artwork-softwaves - Debian Edu Softwaves (stretch) themes and 
artwork
 debian-edu-artwork-spacefun - Debian Edu Spacefun (squeeze) themes and artwork
Closes: 856789
Changes:
 debian-edu-artwork (0.902-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Set plymouth default theme only if a Debian Edu system is installed.
 Thanks to Andreas Beckmann. (Closes: #856789).
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Accepted debian-edu-install 1.915 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Source: debian-edu-install
Binary: debian-edu-install debian-edu-profile-udeb debian-edu-install-udeb
Architecture: source
Version: 1.915
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-install - Set d-i values to install Debian Edu without questions
 debian-edu-install-udeb - Execute Debian Edu debian-installer profile (udeb)
 debian-edu-profile-udeb - Choose Debian Edu profile (udeb)
Closes: 856493
Changes:
 debian-edu-install (1.915) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Adjust preseed-values/defaults.ltsp-server.
 Set 'ltsp-server' as value of server_packages instead of the default
 one (ltsp-server-standalone). (Closes: #856493)
 .
   * Translation updates:
 - Greek, thanks to Παναγιώτης Γεωργακόπουλος.
 - Italian, thanks to Claudio Carboncini.
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Accepted debian-edu-config 1.924 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 856682
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.924) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Use debian-edu-config.maintscript to remove obsolete conffiles.
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Accepted munin 2.0.33-1 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Architecture: source
Version: 2.0.33-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 munin  - network-wide graphing framework (grapher/gatherer)
 munin-async - network-wide graphing framework (async master/client)
 munin-common - network-wide graphing framework (common)
 munin-doc  - network-wide graphing framework (documentation)
 munin-node - network-wide graphing framework (node)
 munin-plugins-core - network-wide graphing framework (plugins for node)
 munin-plugins-extra - network-wide graphing framework (user contributed 
plugins for nod
 munin-plugins-java - network-wide graphing framework (java plugins for node)
Closes: 856536
Changes:
 munin (2.0.33-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release. (Closes: #856536)
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Accepted munin 2.0.32-1 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Architecture: source
Version: 2.0.32-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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 munin-plugins-extra - network-wide graphing framework (user contributed 
plugins for nod
 munin-plugins-java - network-wide graphing framework (java plugins for node)
Closes: 856455
Changes:
 munin (2.0.32-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release. (Closes: #856455)
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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.917~20170226 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Architecture: source
Version: 1.917~20170226
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-doc-da - Danish documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-de - German documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-en - English documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-es - Spanish documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-fr - French documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-it - Italian documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-ja - Japanese documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-nb - Bokmål documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-nl - Dutch documentation from the Debian Edu project
Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.917~20170226) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen and Ole-Erik Yrvin.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * Japanese: Victory.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Simplified Chinese: Boyuan Yang.
 .
   [ Jessie Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
 .
   [ ITIL Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
 .
   [ Wheezy Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
 .
   [ Audacity manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
 .
   [ Rosegarden Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual from the wiki.
   * Update debian/copyright from the wiki.
   * Switch debian/source/format to 3.0 (native).
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Remove obsolete MATE related screenshot files, now that KDE is used as
 default DE.
   * images/de: Add screenshot files (KDE Plasma DE).
   * Fix wrong filename extensions in d/changelog (xls -> xsl).
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Accepted munin 2.0.31-1 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Architecture: source
Version: 2.0.31-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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 munin-node - network-wide graphing framework (node)
 munin-plugins-core - network-wide graphing framework (plugins for node)
 munin-plugins-extra - network-wide graphing framework (user contributed 
plugins for nod
 munin-plugins-java - network-wide graphing framework (java plugins for node)
Closes: 855705
Changes:
 munin (2.0.31-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release, fixing CVE-2017-6188. (Closes: #855705)
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Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 04:42:49PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> To say my opinion explicitly, since there's been a lot of discussion here,
> some of which I've been involved in somewhat ambiguously:
 
Thanks for writing this up, Russ. I fully agree with *everything* you said here:

> I think this is a reasonably short and workable list of bugs, and I think
> the *default* assumption should be that any FTBFS, even intermittant, is
> RC.  This is both for fundamental reasons for what we're trying to achieve
> as a free software distribution that's modifyable and rebuildable by our
> users, and for practical reasons to support further development of our
> packages (including security fixes).
> 
> We already have an exception mechanism for handling bugs that shouldn't be
> RC for the current release because the actual impact of the bug turns out
> to be minor for some reason, or because they would have too negative of an
> impact on the release.  Normally, how we handle this is to mark the bugs
> with an RC severity (serious in this case), and then, if the release team
> feels this package warrants a special exception, mark it as ignored for
> the current release.
> 
> To me, that seems like the obvious approach to take here, and given the
> reasonably short list of bugs, I don't feel like that would cause
> unreasonable disruption.  In the cases where the build failures are from
> flaky tests, I think disabling the test is a perfectly reasonable fix.  If
> there is some significant merit to a test that fails in Santiago's
> environment but doesn't on the buildd network for some reason *and* has
> significant value in catching regressions on release architectures, that's
> an obvious case for an exception and could be handled like any other RC
> bug exception.
> 
> I think we're going to keep getting lost in the weeds when we try to
> discuss this in general hypotheticals.  If individual package maintainers
> request individual RC exceptions for their specific cases, the discussion
> can be far more concrete and in most cases will have an obvious outcome.
> 
> So, to be explicit, my opinion (as just a Debian Developer, with no
> special ability to decide this, so just take this as another of the
> contributions to the thread) is that all of these bugs should be set to
> Severity: serious, and the maintainers can ask for stretch-ignore tags (or
> downgrades for their specific bug if that seems more correct for specific
> reasons related to their packge, whatever those may be) if they feel that
> is appropriate.

And with this "+1" mail I shall stop contributing to this thread. Everything
has been said at least once :)

Now let's deal with individual bugs and work on getting Stretch released
eventually!


-- 
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Holger


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Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 09:59:29PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> My advice would be to avoid asking the TC such general questions.

My advice too.

> There are two sensible questions:
> 
>  * Should the following bugs be RC ?
> [ list of 20 bugs or whatever ]
 
with a list of 20 bugs I dont think it's sensible. With one, yes, sure. With
two, probably…

>  * I proposed the following patch to policy. 

I haven't seen this yet, or rather I haven't heard that this was done yet.

>Despite it being
>seconded,

So this has neither happened…

>the policy editors have not responded to my request
>to amend policy. [or whatever]

… so this neither…

>  + A FTBFS bug is still RC even if:
>  + it doesn't happens on buildd.debian.net;
>  + it only happens randomly;
>  + it only happens on machines with one (virtual) cpu core.

while I do agree that these are *not* good criterias to justify
whether something is *not* RC, I fear there are bugs for which this is true,
however the justification why they are not RC is different.

And this is why patches to policy are hard :)


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Re: aren't unreliable tests worse than none? (Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:29:28AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> The point is that they don't randomly fail in the sense that they don't
> fail n% of the time when run in any possible build environment.

…but point taken, not all FTBFS bugs are RC(!) as
<20170220152410.3mkm5tebg5i2y...@perpetual.pseudorandom.co.uk> nicely
explained and whose explainations where mostly ignored by Santiago in his
reply…


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Re: aren't unreliable tests worse than none? (Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:29:28AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> This is, in a sense, an unreliable test, but it's not unreliable in a way
> that directly affects the main line of package development.
 
until someone affected wants to contribute…


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Re: aren't unreliable tests worse than none? (Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 01:46:20PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> As a rule of thumb, upstream usually knows better than me which tests
> are important. Tests are quite important for the packager to know if
> they didn't make an obvious mistake when updating a package (e.g new
> dependency missing, something easy to miss by testing manually). Test
> are quite important in a team as you may have to update the package
> while knowing little about it (e.g adding a security patch).

I get why tests are useful. I just think unreliable tests do more harm then
good. (Mostly because this leads to ignoring those tests completely. BTDT.)


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aren't unreliable tests worse than none? (Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:45:00AM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> Time is a limited resource and we need to set our priorities. Having
> test suites that work 100% of the time with constrained resources is not
> a goal I find worthy of the time I can spend on Debian.

While I agree with Niels that it would be very worthwhile to be able to define
ressource requirements for a package to build (and thus know I have to life
with some packages having trouble sometimes) I find it *very* strange to be
content with test suites which randomly fail.

How do you know an error in a testsuite is a non-critical one which can be
ignored? *Especialy* if you have flaky tests, how can you be sure (or even
guesstimate) a test failure is harmless one to ignore and not a critical one
which needs acting upon???

I *really* don't get why people advocate keeping unreliable tests enabled in
releases.


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Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly

[Holger Levsen]

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 10:59:56PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> BTW: Could anybody tell me when exactly "FTBFS on a single-CPU machine"
> stopped being serious and RC? Did such thing ever happened?
 
I don't think so. (It never stopped being serious.)

If some people disagree I'd say this is life and move on. (Either by
escalating the bug or ignoring the bug, package & those people.)


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Accepted debian-edu-install 1.914 (source) into unstable

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Version: 1.914
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-install - Set d-i values to install Debian Edu without questions
 debian-edu-install-udeb - Execute Debian Edu debian-installer profile (udeb)
 debian-edu-profile-udeb - Choose Debian Edu profile (udeb)
Closes: 852191
Changes:
 debian-edu-install (1.914) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Translation updates:
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   [ Holger Levsen ]
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Accepted debian-edu-config 1.923 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 854203
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.923) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Adjust Debian-custom/001-ltsp-settings to enable LTSP installation
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Accepted debian-edu 1.920 (source) into unstable

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installs
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installs
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installs
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installs
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desktop applicatio
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Chinese installs
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applications
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Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 03:34:08PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/libsecret looks better:

I forgot to mention this (kind of) URL:

https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/history/libsecret.html 
 

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Re: Help requested: Packages which FTBFS randomly

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 08:54:54AM -0600, Jeff Epler wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:16:16PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > Can anyone here reproduce any of the following *two* bugs?
> > (Using sbuild in a single-CPU machine)
> > 837067  1.000   libsecret
> 
> Using a fresh 1CPU / 1GB x86 system on digitalocean's NYC region, upgraded to
> debian testing, I tried sbuilding libsecret.  So far, 2/2 builds failed.

https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/libsecret looks better:

- 7x success
- 1x ftbfs

(actually, that's 13 successful builds and one failure, as we always build 
twice…)

https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/logs/testing/armhf/libsecret_0.18.5-2.build2.log.gz
failed with:

FAIL: test-session 4 /session/ensure-async-aes
**
ERROR:libsecret/test-session.c:167:test_ensure_async_aes: assertion failed: 
(G_IS_ASYNC_RESULT (result))

(These systems have more cores and more memory too, but also do several builds
at the same time…)


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Re: changelog practice, unfinalised vs UNRELEASED vs ~version

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:53:18AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> So, my idea was, in short: Thinking in a post-Buster world, do we even
> need the finalized line? I mean, take a look at debian/changes. The
 
the changes file(s) is/are not part of the source packages and we are using
the last date in debian/changelog to set SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH during (re)builds.

https://reproducible-builds.org/specs/source-date-epoch/

I bet there are lot of other consumers of that field as well.


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Re: changelog practice, unfinalised vs UNRELEASED vs ~version

[Holger Levsen]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:48:35PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We do not seem to have a coherent approach to how to handle
> debian/changelog in trees (eg, vcs branches) which are not yet ready
> for upload.
 
True. We also don't have one recommended way how to write debian/rules, how to
build packages, nor if and which SCM to use and we neither agree on a 
recommended
debian/source/format, to name a few of the things were Debian is technically
very diverse. Maybe too diverse… OTOH this is certainly also a strength.

I'd just like to see more commonly agreed and recommended best practices in
our world. And while we were doing this that we wouldn't have to be ignorant
about alternative realities^wapproaches.

:)


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Re: node-tty-browserify_0.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

[Holger Levsen]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 07:18:54PM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> PS: many thanks to the ftpmaster for doing a (so often) thankless job!

Indeed! 


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Re: Rebuilding package reverse build-dependencies

[Holger Levsen]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 03:24:48PM +0200, Eugene Zhukov wrote:
> Is there a way to rebuild all ${package} reverse build-dependencies in
> one go in a more-or-less clean environment (chroot/container/vm)?

tracker.debian.org/ratt - rebuild all the things!


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Re: Is lack of full-HD display support an RC bug?

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 11:27:53PM +0100, Dominik George wrote:
> But I figure I could handle this as important, so xrdp will not get
> removed if the patch doesn't migrate, and still ask for an unblock,
> which seems to be also possible for bugs with important severity.

yup, this approach seems more reasonable.


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Accepted sitesummary 0.1.28 (source) into unstable

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 sitesummary - Generate site summary of submitting hosts (server part)
 sitesummary-client - Generate site summary of submitting hosts (client part)
Closes: 852623
Changes:
 sitesummary (0.1.28) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
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Accepted debian-edu 1.919 (source) into unstable

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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applications
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applications
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 education-lang-de-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for German installs
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 education-lang-es-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Spanish 
installs
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 education-lang-fr - Debian Edu applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop-kde - French Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-he - Debian Edu applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop-kde - Hebrew Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-it - Debian Edu applications for Italian installs
 education-lang-it-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Italian 
installs
 education-lang-it-desktop-kde - Italian Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-ja - Debian Edu applications for Japanese installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Japanese 
installs
 education-lang-ja-desktop-kde - Japanese Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-no - Debian Edu applications for Norwegian installs
 education-lang-no-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Norwegian 
installs
 education-lang-no-desktop-kde - Norwegian (Bokmaal and Nynorsk) Debian Edu KDE 
desktop applicatio
 education-lang-se - Debian Edu applications for North Sami installs
 education-lang-zh-tw - Debian Edu applications for Traditional Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Traditional 
Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop-kde - Traditional Chinese Debian Edu KDE desktop 
applications
 education-language - Debian Edu language related educational applications
 education-laptop - Debian Edu laptop packages
 education-logic-games - Debian Edu logic games
 education-ltsp-server - Debian Edu networked LTSP server packages
 ed

Re: github and its workflows (was Re: manpages.debian.org has been modernized!)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:53:58AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> Are you saying that people are writing and submitting patches via a
> Web-based editor interface, and that you're recommending that people
> consider _accepting_ those patches, when they haven't even been
> _build-tested_ before submission (because you can't build-test - much
> less actually _test_ - without the full source tree, which you'd obtain
> by pulling the repo)?
 
besides that github supports automated testing too, I think that you're
too much thinking of (big|bigger) patches while I imagine that most of
the patches created via this web editor are rather simple typo fixes and
small correcttions and such.

> […] as well as the "keep the only copy of your fork in
> the same centralized location as the original code" mindset implied by a
> don't-bother-to-clone-a-local-copy workflow - that leaves me
> considerably less comfortable with the idea of people using github than
> I used to be.

which also becomes less troublesome if such changes are merged soon…


To be clear, I do believe in owning ones infrastructures, but I also see
how this encourages small contributions and makes them easy and I do see
this as a good thing too.

I think this is really great to lower the barrier for newcomers, to make
them feel accepted and I too dive deeper eventually.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.916~20170125 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
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Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.916~20170125) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch and Jessie manuals from the wiki.
   * Update Debian Edu ITIL manual from the wiki.
   * Update Audacity manual from the wiki.
   * Update debian/copyright from the wikis.
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Japanese: Victory.
   * Dutch: Frans Spiesschaert.
 .
   [ Jessie Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
   * Polish: Stanisław Krukowski.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
   * Dutch: Frans Spiesschaert.
 .
   [ ITIL Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Allan Nordhøy.
 .
   [ Wheezy Manual translation updates ]
   * Norwegian Bokmål: Petter Reinholdtsen.
 .
   [ Audacity manual translation updates ]
   * Dutch: Frans Spiesschaert.
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * images/de: Update screenshots (Debian Edu profile choice, LTSP chroot
 installation, MATE desktop showing translated menu entries).
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[Holger Levsen]

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Maintainer: piuparts developers team <piuparts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
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 piuparts (0.75) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Andreas Beckmann ]
   * piuparts.py:
 - Add to ignored_files:
   + /etc/network/
   + /etc/php/7.0/ and selected subdirs
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   * piuparts.conf:
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   * scripts/pre_distupgrade_zz_database-server: Run pg_upgradecluster during
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 into scripts/post_distupgrade_exceptions.
   * scripts/{pre,post}_remove_exceptions: Support removal of essential
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   * known_problems/piuparts-depends-dummy_error.conf: Recognize the failure
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   * known_problems/problems_and_no_force_error.conf: Recognize the apt 1.1
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Accepted munin 2.999.6-1 (source) into experimental

[Holger Levsen]

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Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
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 munin-node - network-wide graphing framework (node)
 munin-plugins-core - network-wide graphing framework (plugins for node)
 munin-plugins-dns - munin plugins for monitoring DNS servers
 munin-plugins-extra - community contributed plugins for munin node
 munin-plugins-http - munin plugins for monitoring web servers
 munin-plugins-irc - munin plugins for monitoring IRC servers
 munin-plugins-jenkins - munin plugins for monitoring the Jenkins CI server
 munin-plugins-ldap - munin plugins for monitoring LDAP servers
 munin-plugins-mail - munin plugins for monitoring mail servers
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 munin-plugins-network - munin plugins for monitoring network traffic
 munin-plugins-pgsql - munin plugins for monitoring PostgreSQL
 munin-plugins-snmp - munin plugins for monitoring remote devices with SNMP
 munin-plugins-time - munin plugins for monitoring NTP servers and 
synchronization
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 munin (2.999.6-1) experimental; urgency=medium
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please, let's *completely* drop md5sums for buster (was Re: no-strong-digests-in-dsc MBF)

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

I'm sorry but I want to amend myself…

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 05:34:41PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > (and btw, let's drop md5sums for buster, "maybe", _completly_, or how long
> > > do we want to be joked about?)
> > I'm not sure why you say this. More than one hash is strictly better
> > than just one.
> well, yes, that's true. 

somewhat. as explained this, also can be harmful:

> OTOH, not throwing away the support for md5sums
> will never allow us to be sure that we're not still relying on md5sums
> somewhere.

and even Oracle does this better than Debian soon: "Oracle says that
starting with April 18, 2017, Java (JRE) will treat all JAR files signed
with the MD5 algorithm as unsigned, meaning they'll be considered insecure and
blocked from running." - via 
https://developers.slashdot.org/story/17/01/21/0538232/

We really ought to do the same. I'm all for keeping sha1+sha256, but
please let's *completely* drop md5sums for buster.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: no-strong-digests-in-dsc MBF

[Holger Levsen]

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 06:31:44PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> AIUI we never exported the .changes files either, which would have
> allowed an independent party to check if the files inserted came from a
> developer or not.
 
yeah, I consider this another bug.

> > (and btw, let's drop md5sums for buster, "maybe", _completly_, or how long
> > do we want to be joked about?)
> I'm not sure why you say this. More than one hash is strictly better
> than just one.

well, yes, that's true. OTOH, not throwing away the support for md5sums
will never allow us to be sure that we're not still relying on md5sums
somewhere.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted munin 2.0.30-1 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
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 munin-plugins-extra - network-wide graphing framework (user contributed 
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Re: no-strong-digests-in-dsc MBF

[Holger Levsen]

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:14:46AM +1100, Stuart Prescott wrote:
> The hashes inside the .dsc file are not used in Debian once the package has 
> been accepted by dak. 
> 
> * The trustable way of getting the source package is with apt-get source, 
> when apt verifies the Release signature → hashes → Sources → hashes for each 
> part of the source package: dsc, orig.tar.gz, diff.gz/diff.tar.xz

so this "trustable" way of getting the source packages relies on a piece
of software, dak, running 24/365 on a machine (administrated by some
volunteers in their free time) on the internet, to not to be compromised?

I'm not sure I can really trust this very much.
 
> * The not-really-trustable way of getting the source package is with "dget 
> http://.../package.dsc;. Using the dsc directly, dget will check the 
> signature on the dsc and check the hashes.

I'd really like to see strong hashes used here.

(and btw, let's drop md5sums for buster, "maybe", _completly_, or how long
do we want to be joked about?)


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted debian-edu-install 1.913 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
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Description:
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Description:
 sitesummary - Generate site summary of submitting hosts (server part)
 sitesummary-client - Generate site summary of submitting hosts (client part)
Closes: 846865
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted debian-edu-artwork 0.902-2 (source) into unstable

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Version: 0.902-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-artwork - Debian Edu themes and artwork
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 debian-edu-artwork-softwaves - Debian Edu Softwaves (stretch) themes and 
artwork
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Closes: 851536
Changes:
 debian-edu-artwork (0.902-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
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Description:
 education-astronomy - Debian Edu astronomy related applications
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applications
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applications
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 education-lang-es - Debian Edu applications for Spanish installs
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installs
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 education-lang-fr - Debian Edu applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for French installs
 education-lang-fr-desktop-kde - French Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-he - Debian Edu applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Hebrew installs
 education-lang-he-desktop-kde - Hebrew Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
 education-lang-it - Debian Edu applications for Italian installs
 education-lang-it-desktop - Debian Edu Desktop applications for Italian 
installs
 education-lang-it-desktop-kde - Italian Debian Edu KDE desktop applications
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installs
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installs
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desktop applicatio
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Chinese installs
 education-lang-zh-tw-desktop-kde - Traditional Chinese Debian Edu KDE desktop 
applications
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Accepted debian-edu-config 1.922 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
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Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted piuparts 0.74 (source) into unstable

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Source: piuparts
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Architecture: source
Version: 0.74
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: piuparts developers team <piuparts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 piuparts   - .deb package installation, upgrading, and removal testing tool
 piuparts-common - common piuparts components
 piuparts-master - piuparts master components
 piuparts-slave - piuparts slave components
Closes: 604406 660350 682739 704037 794331 825487
Changes:
 piuparts (0.74) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Andreas Beckmann ]
   * piuparts.py:
 - Add to ignored_files:
   + /etc/modprobe.d/
 - Add new class of is_testable_* custom scripts: A non-zero return value
   makes the test succeed without actually installing the package. Use for
   packages that cannot be tested with piuparts by design or are broken in
   an unfixable way.  (Closes: #682739)
 - Ensure /etc/resolv.conf in the chroot has permissions 0644 to match a
   possible recreation of that file by resolvconf.  (Closes: #660350)
 - Increase output limit to 8 MB.  (Closes: #794331)
 - Increase single command time limit to 60 minutes.
   * piuparts.conf:
 - New section [sid-strict], testing with --install-remove-install and
   failing on leftover files.  (Closes: #604406)
 - Only warn on leftover files for [sid] and use the same settings for
   both [sid] and [stretch], since these are now used by britney to block
   testing migration in case of regressions.
   * piuparts.conf.anbe: Add some more example sections.
   * piuparts-slave.py:
 - Increase test timeout to 90 minutes.
   * piuparts-analyze.py:
 - Also consider bugs filed against source packages.
   * piuparts-reports.py:
 - Mark arch:all packages with an :all suffix in package lists.
 - Report skipped tests.
   * Makefile: Add check-whitespace target looking for trailing whitespace etc.
   * scripts/pre_install_database-server: Use default-mysql-* from stretch
 onwards.
   * scripts/post-{install,purge}-exceptions: Wait for dkms progress indicator
 to terminate.
   * scripts/post_distupgrade_exceptions: Work around some jessie->stretch
 issues.
   * scripts/is_testable_uninstallable: New custom script to exclude some
 uninstallable (or similarily broken) packages from being tested.
   * scripts/post_setup_minimize: New custom script to minimize chroots.
 - Remove tzdata and lsb-base from sid and stretch.
   * scripts/post_setup_dummy_users: New custom script to create dummy groups
 and users that block ids that are likely being used by the host system.
   * scripts/post_{setup,distupgrade}_experimental: Removed, obsolete since
 restoring the initial package selection supports downgrades (0.64).
   * custom-scripts/scripts-debug-{remove,purge}/: Improved debugging of
 maintainer scripts during package removal.
   * Overhaul some more custom scripts.
   * known_problems/debsums_mismatch_*.conf: Report missing symlinks and
 directories.
   * known_problems/needs_rebuild_issue.conf: Report "called
 emacs-package-install as a new-style add-on, but has no compat file"
   * known_problems/test_was_skipped_issue.conf: New known problem for skipped
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   * master-bin/detect_network_issues: Detect "E: The repository '.*' does no
 longer have a Release file."
   * master-bin/detect_piuparts_issues: Detect 'invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql,
 action "restart" failed.'
   * master-bin/reschedule_piuparts_tests: New helper script for rescheduling
 piuparts tests based on detected known problems.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Apply patch by Antonio Ospite to workaround #847788 by force-unmounting
 /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc - some java packages trigger update-binfmts,
 which mounts /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc but never unmounts it.
 (Closes: #704037) - Thanks Antonio!
   * Add build-depends to dh-python, thanks lintian.
   * Bump copyright years.
 .
   [ Sean Whitton ]
   * piuparts.py: use `apt-get install ./foo.deb` instead of `dpkg -i
 ./foo.deb && apt-get install -yf` for more reliable dependency
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Accepted debian-edu-doc 1.915~20170115 (source) into unstable

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debian-edu-doc-ja
Architecture: source
Version: 1.915~20170115
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-doc-da - Danish documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-de - German documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-en - English documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-es - Spanish documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-fr - French documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-it - Italian documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-ja - Japanese documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-nb - Bokmål documentation from the Debian Edu project
 debian-edu-doc-nl - Dutch documentation from the Debian Edu project
Changes:
 debian-edu-doc (1.915~20170115) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Stretch Manual translation updates ]
   * Japanese: Victory.
   * German: Wolfgang Schweer.
 .
   [ Holger Levsen ]
   * Update debian/copyright from the wiki.
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Update Debian Edu Stretch manual and images from the wiki.
   * images/de: Update screenshots.
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[Holger Levsen]

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Architecture: source
Version: 1.912
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-install - Set d-i values to install Debian Edu without questions
 debian-edu-install-udeb - Execute Debian Edu debian-installer profile (udeb)
 debian-edu-profile-udeb - Choose Debian Edu profile (udeb)
Closes: 850045 851167 851327
Changes:
 debian-edu-install (1.912) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Translation updates:
 - Basque, thanks to Iñaki Larrañaga (Dooteo). (Closes: #850045)
 - Romanian, thanks to Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă.
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how to mount /(dev|run)/shm properly? (was Re: Auto reject if autopkgtest of reverse dependencies fail or cause FTBFS)

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 02:38:28PM +0100, Ondrej Novy wrote:
> just be carefull, because there are some packages which FTBFS in debci
> (example:
> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/rb-pkg/unstable/amd64/swift.html
> )
> and it's bug in debci. Build works fine in buildd and in my local sbuild.
 
while this is not related to debci, it brings up an interesting
question:

how should /dev/shm be mounted? and how /run/shm?

i'm interesting in this question for Debian stable with 3.16 and 4.6-4-9
kernels and ubuntu 16.04 running 4.4 kernels…


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted debian-edu-config 1.921 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers <debian-...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Changes:
 debian-edu-config (1.921) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Wolfgang Schweer ]
   * Fix apache userdir configuration:
 - cf/apache2.cf: replace userdir with debian-edu-userdir.
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Accepted munin 2.999.5-1 (source all) into experimental, experimental

[Holger Levsen]

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munin-plugins-irc munin-plugins-dns munin-plugins-mail munin-plugins-time 
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libmunin-node-perl libmunin-plugin-perl libmunin-plugin-http-perl 
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Version: 2.999.5-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Munin Debian Maintainers <packag...@munin-monitoring.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 libmunin-master-perl - perl modules for munin master
 libmunin-node-perl - perl module Munin::Node
 libmunin-perl - common perl modules for munin
 libmunin-plugin-http-perl - perl bindings for HTTP munin plugins
 libmunin-plugin-perl - perl bindings for munin plugins
 libmunin-plugin-pgsql-perl - perl bindings for Postgresql munin plugins
 libmunin-plugin-snmp-perl - perl bindings for SNMP munin plugins
 munin  - network-wide graphing framework (grapher/gatherer)
 munin-async - network-wide graphing framework (async master/client)
 munin-common - network-wide graphing framework (common)
 munin-doc  - network-wide graphing framework (documentation)
 munin-node - network-wide graphing framework (node)
 munin-plugins-core - network-wide graphing framework (plugins for node)
 munin-plugins-dns - munin plugins for monitoring DNS servers
 munin-plugins-extra - community contributed plugins for munin node
 munin-plugins-http - munin plugins for monitoring web servers
 munin-plugins-irc - munin plugins for monitoring IRC servers
 munin-plugins-jenkins - munin plugins for monitoring the Jenkins CI server
 munin-plugins-ldap - munin plugins for monitoring LDAP servers
 munin-plugins-mail - munin plugins for monitoring mail servers
 munin-plugins-mysql - munin plugins for monitoring MySQL
 munin-plugins-network - munin plugins for monitoring network traffic
 munin-plugins-pgsql - munin plugins for monitoring PostgreSQL
 munin-plugins-snmp - munin plugins for monitoring remote devices with SNMP
 munin-plugins-time - munin plugins for monitoring NTP servers and 
synchronization
Closes: 847649
Changes:
 munin (2.999.5-1) experimental; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream version (Closes: #847649) with
 0001-fixup-2.999.5-release.patch applied.
   * Replace dependency on fonts-dejavu with one on fonts-dejavu-core.
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 .
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Accepted vrms 1.17 (source) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian vrms Maintainers <vrms-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Holger Levsen <hol...@debian.org>
Description:
 vrms   - virtual Richard M. Stallman
Closes: 582239 850334
Changes:
 vrms (1.17) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Apply patch by Jakub Wilk to move /usr/share/vrms/reasons/vrms/vrms back
 to /usr/share/vrms/reasons/vrms where vrms expects it.
 (Closes: #582239, #850334)
   * debian/control:
 + Change debhelper build-dep to require version 10 or later.
 + Set Multi-Arch: foreign, thanks to the auto-hinter.
 + Add myself to uploaders.
 + Update Standards-Version to 3.9.8. No changes required.
 + Remove outdated DM-Upload-Allowed flag.
   * debian/compat: Bump to 10.
   * Add debian/source/format and set to 1.0.
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Re: Accepted ncc 2.8-2.1 (source amd64) into unstable

[Holger Levsen]

On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 11:11:02PM +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677673
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755420

ouch, *g*, thanks!


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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