Re: Should the weboob package stay in Debian?

2018-07-26 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 09:16:42AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland has 
been seen typing:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 08:46:29AM +0100, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
 
> > I honestly don't see any connection to religion here.
 
> It's a tenuous (and frankly ridiculous) attempt to demonize a position
> that Adam disagrees with.

It's a big invisible neon sign saying "Please ask me what I mean by
'this religion' so I have an excuse to post a lengthy, lovingly written
and passionately argued rant about Political Correctness, SJWs and how
liberals are the real nazis that will derail this thread so nothing
useful comes off it and the status quo will remain comfortably
preserved".

Let's not feed the troll.

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Re: Should the weboob package stay in Debian?

2018-07-22 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 09:39:51AM +0900, Marc Dequènes (duck) 
has been seen typing:
> Quack,
 
> It seems the project is leaving the decision about Weboob onto me, so I'll
> try to address it.


{ A whole lot of refuge in technicalities snipped }  
 
> So apart from objectification of women, but without instrumentalization or
> degrading message, I was not able to find serious consequences. As much as I
> would prefer things to be different (I already told upstream in the past) I
> don't feel I have any right or special wisdom allowing me to dictate people
> to act and think differently. Banning content because it displease me and
> make people uncomfortable while no direct harm has been found is unlikely to
> have a positive effect. Consequently unless harmful content I'm not aware of
> is discovered in this package I am not going to remove it from the archive.
> I would consider adding a neutral warning message in the package description
> though, so people can individually decide for themselves if this is
> acceptable from their own point of view.

No one in this entire thread was asking that this software be removed.

Instead, all along the suggestion has been "Rename some of the programs
because Debian is not run by a bunch of puerile twelve-year-olds who get
their sense of humor from Beavis and Butthead"

> I'll be coming at DebConf this year. Feel free to come and discuss it with
> me.
> \_o<
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> 



Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Svante Signell has 
been seen typing:

 Some food for thought about systemd:

... I thought we'd all agreed to stop bringing up tired arguments that
nobody but the systemd MUST DIE crowd really wants to hear anymore.

 You might have seen this http://ewontfix.com/14
 but have you seen this http://ewontfix.com/15
 or this http://boycottsystemd.org/

Open source Tea Party. That explains *so* much...

 Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is becoming more and more
 important. Otherwise (Debian) users might do as recommended in the third
 link: Boycott distros that use systemd.

If we keep systemd, people who want to boycott systemd will boycott
us. Seriously, can we stop with the circular arguments as well?

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Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 04:59:25PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser has 
been seen typing:

 No, there just has not been any challenge that met the form and
 other requirements… and I am at a bit of loss at what to do here.
 
 Besides, it’s not that the TC made a decision. Rather, the TC was
 split, and the chairman threw in his weight. This is absolutely not
 what I’d call a project(!) decision.

FFS. 

The chairman didn't Throw in his weight. He used his tiebreaker vote
to break a tie. Which is exactly what he was *supposed* to do.

Stop pretending you're concerned about procedural propriety when your
actual problem is that the committee, working by the established
procedures, produced an outcome you didn't want. Who do you think you
are, the senate GOP?



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Re: SV: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-26 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:33:49PM +0100, Wookey has been seen 
typing:
 +++ Svante Signell [2014-06-26 12:31 +0200]:
  
  Not in any official Debian repo unfortunately:
  
  http://users.unixforge.de/~tglaser/debs/dists/etch/wtf/Pkgs/mirabilos-support/
 
 Can it be uploaded please? As has been observed, there is a reasonable
 number of people who would like an easy way to control explicitly
 when/if they change to systemd for pid 1. Having to get it from a
 separate repo should not be necessary.

I'd recommend naming it something just a *tad* less hysterically
antagonistic first.

 Wookey


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Re: systemd - some more considerations

2014-04-04 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 05:24:50PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin has 
been seen typing:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:27:01AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
  Chow Loong Jin hyperair at debian.org writes:

  Yes, and /bin/sh is supposed to parse the shebang and call out to
  the interpreter. AFAICT, mksh does. That the kernel can also do it
  is just a shortcut.
 
 Are you sure about this? AFAICT this seems to be the exception rather than the
 rule. Running my Python scripts (with appropriate #!s) through zsh, bash, and
 dash don't seem to automagically redirect them to Python.

For myself, I'd *prefer* the latter behavior -- if I explicitly tell
bash to parse a script, I want it to assume I have a good reason, and 
not silently follow a shebang line to execute a different parser
altogether.

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Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:11:08AM -0400, Scott Kitterman has 
been seen typing:
 On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote:
Programming Lang: PHP
Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building
  and maintaining a dynamic website
 
 How many content management systems written in php does Debian need?

Dunno. How many text editors, window managers, roguelikes, programming
languages and smtp daemons does Debian need?

 Scott K



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Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes! (was: network-manager as default? No!)

2011-04-05 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 08:15:55AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link has 
been seen typing:

 But what many people[1] want is that you can make it work if you read some
 dozen pages of documentation.

Personally, what I want is a setup that does not drop all active network
interfaces during a software upgrade because it needs to restart a
daemon.

Making network-manager honor an option along the lines of
--leave-interfaces during stop or restart would be a good start.


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Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-04 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:20:18PM +0200, Patrick Matthäi has 
been seen typing:
 Am 03.04.2011 18:22, schrieb Faidon Liambotis:
  And, above all, losing the network configuration, even for a second,
  just because you restarted a daemon (or that daemon died) shouldn't be
  acceptable for the primary network configuration of our distribution.
 
 Full ACK.
 I also made those experiences with two fedora servers, who are using per
 default NM :(
 
Agreed. Back a couple months ago I was updating my home system over SSH
and when it updated network-manager it cheerfully downed the interface
and broke the connection, which in turn interrupted the upgrade process
so that the interface didn't come back /up/ either.

I don't know if that's been fixed in more recent versions; needless to
say I purged it and everything associated and haven't touched it since.



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Re: Firefox:I get redirected to microsoft website when entering http//kernel.org or http//debian.org

2005-08-08 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:49:32AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek has 
been seen typing:

 http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nlq=httpmeta= does end up at
 http://www.microsoft.com/ but I've no idea why.

Because http://www.http.com/ redirects to www.microsoft.com. 

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Bug#171045: ITP: snortconf -- A menu based interface to configuring Snort 1.9.0 and up

2002-11-28 Thread Rens Houben
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-28
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: snortconf
  Version : 0.4.2
  Upstream Author : A.L. Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.xjack.org/snortconf
* License : GPL
  Description : A menu based interface to configuring Snort 1.9.0 and up

  From the website:

SnortConf is a tool that provides an intuitive, easy to use menu-based
interface for setting up the configuration file of the GPL IDS tool
Snort. It provides error and sanity checking on user input, and an
online help facility. It aims to ease the pain of the first time Snort
user getting everything properly configured and running. 


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Accepted trafstats 0.4.20-3 (i386 source)

2002-11-15 Thread Rens Houben
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Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:00:19 +0100
Source: trafstats
Binary: trafstats
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.4.20-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Rens Houben [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Rens Houben [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 trafstats  - gather and store traffic information into an SQL database.
Closes: 162700
Changes: 
 trafstats (0.4.20-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Include fixes to debian/postinst and debian/config by Andrew Shugg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; this closes: #162700
Files: 
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Accepted:
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  to pool/main/t/trafstats/trafstats_0.4.20-3.diff.gz
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