Re: Bug#616290: [Fwd: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp patch in ISC-Bugs #24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?]

2012-01-12 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 22:12 -0800, Andrew Pollock wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:20:55PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
  
  So far our (Debian's) communications with dhcpd upstream on this topic
  seem to be lacking in this area.  If you like I would be happy to
  review your next submissiosn to upstream, before you send them.
 
 I'm expecting to have a face-to-face meeting with the ISC DHCP folks next 
 week,
 and the Hurd situation is one of the topics of discussion. If the stakeholders
 from debian-hurd want me to convey anything in particular, then now's the time
 to speak up.
 
 I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't use Hurd, I don't have a good
 understanding of what the problem is or how the patch(es) solve it.

Thank you for the information about your meeting next week. Samuel
Thibault will take care of supplying additional information about the patch
(or an updated one) in due time before your meeting.

Thanks,
Svante Signell


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Re: Linux Mint 12 in Debian?

2011-12-31 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 01:00 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Le vendredi 30 dcembre 2011  19:20 +0100, Svante Signell a crit : 
  I'm very reluctant to upgrade to gnome3, I have it on one box, and
  don't like it. 
...
  Looks like there is a gnome-session-fallback similar to gnome 2
  available. Can it be installed safely, instead of gnome-session? 
 
 Yes. This is the “GNOME classic” session, that uses metacity and
 gnome-panel.

Currently I have 164 packages from unstable not being upgraded since I
don't want to dist-upgrade. Will a majority of these packages be
installed after installing gnome-session-fallback. Packages I want
upgraded are e.g. brasero, evolution, various gnome-*, etc.

Which packages are changing gnome2 to gnome3: gnome-session, gdm3, and?



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Re: Linux Mint 12 in Debian?

2011-12-30 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 00:09 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Le lundi 28 novembre 2011  19:56 +0100, Svante Signell a crit : 
  As many people (including me) are very disappointed in gnome3, switching
  from a very configurable desktop environment in gnome2 to a almost not
  configurable tablet one, is there any chance that Debian could supply
  the Mint version too, with many goodies from gnome3 and a gnome2
  look-and-feel?

I'm very reluctant to upgrade to gnome3, I have it on one box, and
don't like it. I want workspaces related to different tasks, like
programming, web browsing, watching a video, listening to music, etc.
That could involve e.g. having terminals, etc running on each
workspace. Does this hinder several instances of a terminal, web
browser, etc, to be launched?

 The Mint extensions for GNOME Shell look interesting, although I’m not
 into nostalgic retrofeatures. Feel free to package them, people on
 #debian-gnome can give you advice on this matter.

Look like there is a gnome-session-fallback similar to gnome 2
available. Can it be installed safely, instead of gnome-session? Does it
use the features of gnome-shell? Other alternatives, execept Linux Mint,
including most of gnome, xfce4? 

 (Also, I don’t get the “tablet” mention. One of the weaknesses of GNOME
 Shell compared to e.g. Unity is precisely its behavior on tablets -
 which is why this is something upstream is working on.)

Please clarify!



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Re: [Fwd: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp patch in ISC-Bugs #24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?]

2011-12-16 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 14:15 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
 Svante Signell writes ([Fwd: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp 
 patch in ISC-Bugs #24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?]):
  Dear Debian/Hurd, GNU/Hurd and Debian-devel people. This arrived today.
  Any ideas on how to proceed? Is it possible to create a Hurd-specific
  fork of the latest ISC-DHCP release? DHCP is an essential package in the
  Debian Installer.
 
 I went and read the Debian bug report.  The difficulty seems to be
 with the patch fix_ftbfs4hurd.dpatch.  I have to say that on reading
 that patch I understood upstream's reluctance.  I don't think it looks
 to me like a correct and appropriate fix for build portability
 problems.

There are two things involved in that patch, the PATH_MAX issues in
dh_client.c and dhcpd.c, and the changes to lpf.c. In my first version,
I did split the relevant lpf.c parts into a Hurd-specific one called
lpf_get_hw_addr.c. Later Samuel Thibault changed that into lpf.c
directly, by defining a new macro USE_LPF_HWADDR, and use that. In case
having a Hurd-specific part of lpf.c is more easily accepted by
upstream, we can make these changes to the current patch.

 Unfortunately the upstream bug tracker is secret so we can't see any
 discussion there, but the initial message sent to dhcp-bugs@isc
 doesn't seem really to explain the thinking behind the patch.

That message was sent by the DM, and did not contain much more
information than the Debian bug report itself (and the patch).

 Where can I find the detailed explanation of why this patch is
 required and how it works to fix the problems ?  At the moment I can't
 even seem to find an error message from an FTBFS log.

More information can be found at the debian-hurd and bug-hurd ML
archives:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2011-02/threads.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2011-03/threads.html


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Re: [Fwd: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp patch in ISC-Bugs #24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?]

2011-12-16 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 14:20 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
 Svante Signell writes (Re: [Fwd: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp 
 patch in ISC-Bugs #24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?]):
  On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 14:15 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
   Where can I find the detailed explanation of why this patch is
   required and how it works to fix the problems ?  At the moment I can't
   even seem to find an error message from an FTBFS log.
 
 This was really my key question.

Looks like there is no old FTBFS build log, but since the build will
fail due to PATH_MAX issues, why is a failed build log so important?

Since the patch was created this package was built using the patch in
Debian bug #616290 and is available in debian-ports since March 2011.
That is the reason for not queuing this package to the buildds, it would
be a waste of time. Please refer to Samuel Thibault, he is the buildd
admin, also a DM and DD. I am neither!

 Any submission of a patch allegedly fixing a bug (by which I mean to
 include a portability problem), to any project, should include a clear
 description, in detail, of what the bug is thought to be and how the
 patch solves it.

I wrote in parts of my previous mail (which you removed) about the two
issues: PATH_MAX and lpf.c. And PATH_MAX is not only a problem with this
package!

  More information can be found at the debian-hurd and bug-hurd ML
  archives:
  
  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2011-02/threads.html
  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2011-03/threads.html
 
 A reference to a mailing list thread may helpful as background
 reading, but I'm afraid it does not meet the standard I would expect
 for a patch submission.

You asked for more information, and it is there. It is also available
from the debian-hurd mailing list. I cannot rewrite history, can I?

Are there any rules for what to include in a patch? I've never seen one.

 I'm afraid you need to go back and revise your submissions to isc-dhcp
 upstream.  You need to:
  * Identify what the separate problems are
 

Note: I have not submitted any patch to upstream ISC-DHCP, read the bug
log! Neither has Samuel, all communication was via the DM in this bug
report! The patch was submitted upstream by the Debian Maintainer,
Andrew Pollock.

  * For each individual problem:
- Research applicable best practices and standards

Done already!

- Decide accordingly whether the fault lies with isc-dhcp or hurd

See above, PATH_MAX and lpf.c!

- Decide how to fix the problem

The patch is already there! It could be revised if upstream had any
interest in communicating, either with the patch submitters or the DM.

- Create and test a separate patch, either against isc-dhcpd or
  hurd or perhaps both

There is no patch against Hurd, only against isc-dhcp!

- Write a clear and detailed explanation; this explanation
  should cover all of the matters I've just mentioned.

We will do that (in addition to the previous mail) if upstream was
interested in communicating.

 So far our (Debian's) communications with dhcpd upstream on this topic
 seem to be lacking in this area.  If you like I would be happy to
 review your next submissiosn to upstream, before you send them.

As said before: _ALL_(the very limited) communication with upstream has
been via the DM, and the Debian bug. There has been _no_ submission
upstream of _any_ patches, either by me or Samuel. And the DM is Andrew
Pollock, at least this is what the package webpage says. Who are in the
Debian ISC DHCP Maintainers group I don't have any idea, where is that
found?

I think Samuel should reply on this matter, I just happen to be the
person submitting the bug report. And I am very grateful for his help in
creating the patch to make isc-dhcp working for GNU/Hurd. Otherwise we
would not have come as far as we have on the Debian-Installer port for
GNU/Hurd. 


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Re: [Fwd: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp patch in ISC-Bugs #24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?]

2011-12-16 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 19:46 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Dec 16, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
 
  Indeed so.  But if upstream won't take the memory allocation patch
  then a big enough #define is surely better than not having a dhcp
  client.
 If Hurd developers would suddenly start to act pragmatically, then
 they may suddenly question what they are doing with their life. :-)

Defining PATH_MAX as a temporary workaround would sometimes be OK for
Debian packages, but definitely not for GNU/Hurd. I'm not an advocate of
this decision, you have to get explanations from the core developers.
One recent message about this issue is from Guillem Jover:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2011/12/msg00044.html


That PATH_MAX is not a POSIX defined constant is a fact, no doubt :-)  

rsyslog upstream has already adjusted their code to avoid using
PATH_MAX, and even solved two error conditions by doing this, and
resulting in less code (the message does not seem to be in the
debian-hurd archives yet but here is a reply):

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2011/12/msg00048.html


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[Fwd: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp patch in ISC-Bugs #24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?]

2011-12-14 Thread Svante Signell
Dear Debian/Hurd, GNU/Hurd and Debian-devel people. This arrived today.
Any ideas on how to proceed? Is it possible to create a Hurd-specific
fork of the latest ISC-DHCP release? DHCP is an essential package in the
Debian Installer.

Is it possible to do something at Debian level? The text below is from
the DPL Stefano Zacchiroli latest news, from November 2011:  

Relationships with others
=
- Thanks to the interest of Andrew Pollock, LaMont Jones, Florian Weimer
  and the Security Team, we are discussing with ISC to have Debian ---
  as a project, rather than as individuals who just happen to maintain
  ISC software in Debian --- become member of all forums relevant for
  software we distribute (BIND, NTP, DHCP). They are doing all the
  coordination work, but I've anticipated I'll be happy to pledge for
  Debian membership.

If GNU/Hurd is ever to become one of the supported architectures in
Debian, upstream portable software support is essential. The message
below counteracts these aims largely :-(

 Forwarded Message 
From: Cathy Almond via RT dhcp-b...@isc.org
Reply-to: dhcp-b...@isc.org
To: svante.sign...@telia.com
Subject: [ISC-Bugs #25979] What happened to the dhcp patch in ISC-Bugs
#24697 (Debian Bug #616290)?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:57:03 +

Hi Svante,

 Dear isc-dhcp developers.

 I am sorry to bother you again about this issue. Maybe this bug has
 not
 been closed yet due to lack of time, most people are very busy with
 everyday life. As seen below, the patch for GNU/Hurd for isc-dhcp was
 promised to appear in the latest release. Unfortunately it was not.

 The patch is of very large importance for GNU/Hurd since until now the
 architecture is not supported. Additionally, the Debian maintainer is
 reluctant to include this patch due to that a non-trivial amount of
 code
 is changed, and there are two new configuration files included too.
 The
 patch submitted to Debian bug #616290 in 3 March 2011 to 4.1.1-P1-17
 and
 forwarded upstream, applies without problems also for the new release,
 4.2.2-1, from 10 August 2011.

 Thanks!
I'm afraid that a mistake was made earlier when the response was given that we
planned to incorporate the submitted patch for ticket #24697. This seems to
have been due to an internal misunderstanding. Subsequently we've reviewed the
patch and discussed at length the request to have it included and have to say
that we have no plans to incorporate it in the near future.

We have some technical reservations about the proposed change in relation to
the effect they might have in other OS environments, and additionally we don't
have a test environment in which to verify the stability/supportability of the
resulting build(s) going forward.

We receive a large volume of development work requests, and while we accept
that this one is of importance to the gnu/hurd maintainers, we understand that
the number of users of this OS is relatively small and we have to take this
into account when deciding how to utilise our resources.

So with regret for the disappointment that this answer will cause, our response
has to be that this is not something that we can do now, although of course the
decision can be revisited in the future if circumstances change.

Kind regards,

Cathy Almond
ISC Support




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Linux Mint 12 in Debian?

2011-11-28 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

As many people (including me) are very disappointed in gnome3, switching
from a very configurable desktop environment in gnome2 to a almost not
configurable tablet one, is there any chance that Debian could supply
the Mint version too, with many goodies from gnome3 and a gnome2
look-and-feel?

Thank you for your time and efforts with Debian. Maybe this mail is more
appropriate in the debian-gtk-gnome mailing list, but as I am currently
subscribed to debian-devel, not the other one, please just tell me to
use the other list, and I'll subscribe and move my question there. 


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Re: Re: Want to become a DM and co-maintainer

2011-11-24 Thread Svante Signell
Replying to the list archive mail, since I'm currently not subscribed to
debian-devel.
 
 From: Thomas Weber twe...@debian.org
 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:43:40 +0100
 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 08:54:24PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
  Where/how to apply to become a co-maintainer and a maintainer? The
  packages I'm interested into start with are: gnuradio and octave.
 
 Octave is group-maintained, the group's list is at 
 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-octave-devel/2011-November/thread.html
 
 If you want to join, create an account on alioth and request to join the
 group.

Thank you for your reply. How can I obtain an alioth account? Are these
only available for DMs, or for wannabes too?

 The above is a bit terse, so feel free to ask me if you need further
 information.

Will do, thanks!


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Re: Re: Want to become a DM and co-maintainer

2011-11-24 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:55 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Svante Signell, le Thu 24 Nov 2011 22:31:25 +0100, a écrit :
   If you want to join, create an account on alioth and request to join the
   group.
  
  Thank you for your reply. How can I obtain an alioth account? Are these
  only available for DMs, or for wannabes too?
 
 See alioth.debian.org: anybody can get one. It's getting added to a
 group which is more difficult :) (but in your case, we'll probably just
 do it for the porting group).

Are you referring to the Debian GNU/Hurd port project? Looking at that
one there does not seem to be many activities in the mailing lists,
patches or bug reports lately.

I'm interested in contributing to (packaging) GNU/Octave too. Is there a
porting group for Octave? Otherwise I'll apply to join the Debian Octave
group: .../project/pkg-octave/


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Want to become a DM and co-maintainer

2011-11-12 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

Where/how to apply to become a co-maintainer and a maintainer? The
packages I'm interested into start with are: gnuradio and octave.
Additionally, I have not found any package for USRP yet.

Thanks! 


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Debian mailing list related to gnuradio?

2011-11-01 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

I wonder if there is a Debian mailing list related to gnuradio/sdcc
issues?

Thanks!


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A short question about apt-get build-dep

2011-08-19 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

I have a slight problem when building opensp for GNU/Hurd. In the
build-dep list for opensp we have:

apt-cache showsrc opensp|grep Build-Depends
Build-Depends: debhelper ( 7.0.0), dh-buildinfo, xmlto, poppler-utils,
openjade1.3 | openjade, jadetex, docbook-dsssl

When issuing 'apt-get build-dep opensp' openjade1.3 is installed. The
problem is that opensp does not build with that version. However it
builds OK with openjade (currently 1.4devel1-20).

Does changing the order prefer openjade before openjade1.3? Or would
adding openjade1.3 [!hurd-i386] be a better solution.

I edited the Build-Depends entry of opensp in
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.se.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_source_Sources
as a test but all the time openjade1.3 was selected.

Doesn't apt-get build-dep read that file, or what is wrong with my
tests?


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No bzcat the installing the weekly/daily builds of GNU/Linux installer.

2011-07-19 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

I'm about to file a bug, but wanted your opinion first. When installing
the netinst from today and yesterday, and the latest weekly build CD1,
installation of the base system fails due to bzcat missing. Is this
known already?


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Re: Re: No bzcat when installing the weekly/daily builds of GNU/Linux installer.

2011-07-19 Thread Svante Signell
Couldn't you block the creation of weekly and daily builds when things
like this happen?


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Re: Short question how to avoid creating one of two binary packages from source

2011-06-10 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 13:10 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
 
  Hi,
 
  Tried to google but did not find any useful so far. I have a package I'm
  porting, and want to create one out of two binary packages from the
  source. Is there an easy way to achieve this, e.g. by an override
  statement. Or is brute force, removing all entries of that binary
  package in debian/rules, useful? Any other way to do this, by
  architecture checks? The Architecture entry seems to be all or any only,
  and Depends does not fit either.
 
  Thanks!
 
 The architecture can be just some archs too. But that is often something
 the rules file then has to take into consideration too. If you have a
 source that builds part of its packages only on some arch then this is
 your answere.

Thank you for your reply. Is it possible to use the negative form too in
the debian/control file?

Package: ntp
Architecture: !hurd-any (instead of any)
Depends: ...

Package: ntpdate
Architecture: any 
...

Package: ntp-doc
Architecture: all
...

And then change the corresponding parts of debian/rules?


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Short question how to avoid creating one of two binary packages from source

2011-06-09 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

Tried to google but did not find any useful so far. I have a package I'm
porting, and want to create one out of two binary packages from the
source. Is there an easy way to achieve this, e.g. by an override
statement. Or is brute force, removing all entries of that binary
package in debian/rules, useful? Any other way to do this, by
architecture checks? The Architecture entry seems to be all or any only,
and Depends does not fit either.

Thanks!


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How to become a contributor?

2011-05-19 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

I've been a GNU/Debian user for a long time now, after trying out
Redhat, Mandrake, Suse, Mandriva, Debian, etc. Now, I'm stuck at Debian,
which I find the best distribution not limited  to GNU/Linux.

I would like to contribute more than just being a passive reader of the
email lists and submitting bugs. How to proceed, I would like to start
to adopt package(s) no longer being maintained actively, not adopt
abandoned ones. As a start, I would need a sponsor to do the upload. How
to proceed?

Thank you for your time!
Svante



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Re: plan to clean up unstable

2011-04-12 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:28 +0200, Torsten Werner wrote:
 Am -10.01.-28163 20:59, schrieb Svante Signell:
  libpcap0.8: #612834
 
 A new version that includes the patch has been uploaded and that means
 that the old version will be automatically removed from unstable.

Thanks.

Another package already fixed upstream in 3.7.9:
logrotate: #613342

Please package 3.7.9!



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Re: plan to clean up unstable

2011-04-12 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:28 +0200, Torsten Werner wrote:
 Am -10.01.-28163 20:59, schrieb Svante Signell:
  libpcap0.8: #612834
 
 A new version that includes the patch has been uploaded and that means
 that the old version will be automatically removed from unstable.

Thanks.

Another package already fixed upstream in 3.7.9:
logrotate: #613342

Please package 3.7.9!


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Re: plan to clean up unstable

2011-04-10 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 19:14 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Torsten Werner, le Sun 10 Apr 2011 18:45:54 +0200, a écrit :
  from all source packages that have more than 1 versions in unstable:
  remove all of them that have version  newest_version and that have been
  uploaded before 2009.
  
  A full list is available from
  http://ftp-master.debian.org/users/twerner/pre-lenny.txt. Architecture
  'all' has been excluded for technical reasons but will be removed, too.
  More than 200 source packages are affected.
 
 Actually, we had already requested ftp-master to drop the hurd-i386
 packages you mentioned :)

Unfortunately the list contains some other packages, not
remove-requested by Michael Banck.
 
Just a small comment: if the Debian maintainers would apply patches the
list could be shorter:

libpcap0.8: #612834




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Re: Re: Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-15 Thread Svante Signell
Looks like it was a false alarm, all is normal again at
{http,ftp}.us.debian.org. Is ftp.us.debian.org the master node?

 Same problem now also at {http,ftp}.us.debian.org?
 
 W: Failed to fetch
 bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
   Hash Sum mismatch
 ...


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Re: Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-14 Thread Svante Signell
Same problem now also at {http,ftp}.us.debian.org?

W: Failed to fetch
bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
  Hash Sum mismatch

W: Failed to fetch
bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_source_Sources
  Hash Sum mismatch

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.



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Mirror problems?

2011-03-13 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

when apt-updating from ftp.se.debian.org i get the following Hash Sum
mismatch failures:
(it does not happen when using ftp.us.debian.org in sources.list)

W: Failed to fetch
bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.se.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_source_Sources
  Hash Sum mismatch

W: Failed to fetch
bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.se.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-i386_Packages
  Hash Sum mismatch

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

Name  SizeLast Modified
Packages.bz2  6851 KB 12/03/11 14:04:00
Packages.diff 12/03/11 14:15:00
Packages.gz   8981 KB 12/03/11 14:04:00
Release   1 KB12/03/11 15:52:00


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Re: Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-13 Thread Svante Signell
Sorry, but the problem persists, since a few days by now!


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How to do an NMU?

2011-02-28 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

After waiting for a long time on updated packages, with patches, to
emacs and gdb for GNU/Hurd I think it is time for NMUs.

The patches are minor, but crucial for the function on GNU/Hurd!

emacs23.2+1-7: #610576 filed 20 Jan 2011. No response from the
maintainer.
gdb7.1-1: #579834 filed 30 Apr 2010. No response from the maintainer. 

Reading the instructions

http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/pkgs.html#nmu

the requirements for an NMU seems to be fulfilled.

Do you need a sponsor for the build and upload? I'm not yet able to sign
the packages I build. It would be better to get the patches applied and
let the buildds do the job.


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Re: Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-06 Thread Svante Signell
On 2011-02-03, Joerg Jaspert jo...@ganneff.de wrote:
 * get rid of hurd (or discuss this)

Why? GNU/Hurd has made vast improvements during last year. Even the
Debian installer is functional. Now, with support for VMs like qemu, xen
and virtualbox, more people are showing interest in GNU/Hurd. 


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A question about the debian installer

2010-09-04 Thread Svante Signell
Hi,

This is a question about the Debian installer. Don't know which mailing
list is appropriate, sending to devel and boot.

When choosing the rescue mode of the Debian CD, I tried netinst, you
have to go through: language, keyboard, locale, root user setup,
ordinary user setup, networking and root partition (+something I
forgot?) before being presented with the option to run a shell or
reinstall Grub. Why do I have to set up root, user and networking in
rescue mode?? Normally you don't need the users or network to run a
rescue shell (or reinstall grub). I it really necessary to go through
all steps as ordinary install for the rescue mode?

Thanks!


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Why are evo*-dbg binary files not executable or don't run when made executable?

2009-03-13 Thread Svante Signell
I'm trying to debug a problem together with the evolution developers
with evolution-data-server crashing when adding new email contacts and
accessing address book. However, when downloading and trying to run the
binary files we find that they are not executable. changing the
executable flag by chmod, they still don't load. How come they don't
even start??
architecture: amd64

Versions:
evolution 2.22.3.1-1
evolution-data-server 2.22.3-1.1

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ACPI problems with kernel 2.6.x for Dell Inspiron 4100

2004-11-15 Thread Svante Signell
For kernels 2.4.x ACPI is automatically disabled:
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.

while kernels 2.6.x enables it:
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040816
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller :00:1f.1
PCI: Transparent bridge - :00:1e.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 9 10 *11)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 5 7) *11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 9 10 *11)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 5 7 9 10 *11)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCIE._PRT]
ACPI: Power Resource [PADA] (on)
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1d.0[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.1[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 7
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - GSI 7 (level, low) - IRQ 7
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.6[B] - GSI 7 (level, low) - IRQ 7
ACPI: PCI interrupt :01:00.0[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt :02:00.0[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt :02:01.0[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt :02:01.1[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.6[B] - GSI 7 (level, low) - IRQ 7
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S4bios S5)
ACPI wakeup devices:
 LID PBTN PCI0 UAR1 USB0 USB1 USB2 MODM PCIE MPCI
...
Alocation of IRQ 7 does not seem to work: (this IRQ is allocated by
parport0)
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - GSI 7 (level, low) - IRQ 7
unable to grab IRQ 7
Intel ICH: probe of :00:1f.5 failed with error -16
and apm is shut off:
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: overridden by ACPI.
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: disabled on user request.

The main problem is that alsa does not work, neither does the battery
monitor in gnome, the only option is to boot with acpi=off. 

For alsa the audio device is not found:
Running alsaconf or (/etc/init.d/alsa start when configured):
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - GSI 7 (level, low) - IRQ 7
unable to grab IRQ 7

/etc/init.d/alsa stop
Storing ALSA mixer settings...ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - GSI
7 (level, low) - IRQ 7
unable to grab IRQ 7
Intel ICH: probe of :00:1f.5 failed with error -16
failed.
Running update-modules...
Loading driver...
Starting ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with
message 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'.
done.
Setting default volumes...

The battery monitor shows the following problem:
Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket!
Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and acpid daemon is running.

Is the ACPI support not functional for this Dell laptop? Can I upgrade
the BIOS?

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Re: ACPI problems with kernel 2.6.x for Dell Inspiron 4100

2004-11-15 Thread Svante Signell
I'm very sorry for sending to this list. I admit that debian-kernel is
more appropriate.

On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 11:31 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
  Hi,
 
 Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mon, Nov 15, 2004:
 
  For kernels 2.4.x ACPI is automatically disabled:
  ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
  ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
  while kernels 2.6.x enables it:
  ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040816
  ACPI: Interpreter enabled
 
  I think you're slightly off-topic, I don't see the point of harassing
  debian-devel with such messages, there's a debian-kernel list, or acpi
  and kernel related lists outside of Debian.  Did you check the upstream
  BTS?
 
  The battery monitor shows the following problem:
  Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket!
  Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and acpid daemon is running.
 
  And?  Did you check wether acpid was running?
 
  Anyway, try disabling ACPI IRQ detection with acpi=noirq, I have no
  idea wether that will help though.
 
Regards,
 
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Re: ACPI problems with kernel 2.6.x for Dell Inspiron 4100

2004-11-15 Thread Svante Signell
Thanks for your help. A short followup. Only the alsa problems remain,
see below. Kernels tested are 2.6.8 and 2.6.9.

On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 22:07 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
 I'm very sorry for sending to this list. I admit that debian-kernel is
 more appropriate.
 
 On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 11:31 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
   Hi,
...
   I think you're slightly off-topic, I don't see the point of harassing
   debian-devel with such messages, there's a debian-kernel list, or acpi
   and kernel related lists outside of Debian.  Did you check the upstream
   BTS?

Yes, I did.
 
   The battery monitor shows the following problem:
   Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket!
   Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and acpid daemon is running.
  
   And?  Did you check wether acpid was running?

You were right, I did not have acpid installed. Works perfectly.

  
   Anyway, try disabling ACPI IRQ detection with acpi=noirq, I have no
   idea wether that will help though.

Yes it does. A warning is issued though, device ... does not match PIRQ
mask, try pci=usepirqmask. Also pci=noacpi works. Now IRQ 11 is
allocated to the sound card Intel 82801CA-ICH3, shared with other
devices. No effort is made to try to allocate IRQ7 (used by parport 0).
IRQ9 is allocated to ACPI.





lilo-22.3.2-3 trashed my SCSI disk

2002-09-03 Thread Svante Signell
Hello,

After upgrade of lilo in unstable my whole SCSI disk got trashed. It
could only be recovered with the use of the IBM drive fitness test
tool, and a complete erase disk was necessary :-( What happened?

A reinstall of Woody showed that it can only boot from the MBR
partition, not the root partition, i.e.

boot=/dev/sda, works!
boot=/dev/sda1, does not work!

What has changed for newer versions of lilo?  I have been running
Debian stable/testing/unstable for several years now without any
problems before. 

Note also that I have a dual disk system, SCSI and IDE, therefore the
disk=, bios= statements in lilo.conf. The disk partitioning tools, such as
cfdisk requires both the SCSI disk and the IDE disk to have at least
one partition with the boot flag set. Is this really necessary?

Does the install=menu stuff have anything to do with the crash?

Maybe grub is better with respect to error recovery?

Still a Debian fan,
Svante

==
Partial session follows:

Setting up lilo (22.3.2-3) ...
Old /boot/boot.b symlink discovered, put the line install=menu in
/etc/lilo.conf instead.
Removing sym link
Press ENTER to continue

Running /usr/sbin/liloconfig

LILO, the LInux LOader, sets up your system to boot Linux directly
from your hard disk, without the need for a boot floppy.

You already have a LILO configuration in the file /etc/lilo.conf

Checking your /etc/lilo.conf for incompatible options...

Install a boot block using your current LILO configuration? [Yes] 

   ==
WARNING: Even if lilo runs successfully, see /usr/share/doc/lilo/INCOMPAT.gz
 for changes in the usage of the /etc/lilo.conf file.
 If needed: edit /etc/lilo.conf and rerun '/sbin/lilo -v'

Running lilo...
LILO version 22.3.2, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2002 John Coffman
Released 11-Jul-2002 and compiled at 11:04:56 on Aug 31 2002.

Reading boot sector from /dev/sda1
Using MENU secondary loader
Calling map_insert_data

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17
Added 2417smp1 *
...
/boot/boot.0801 exists - no backup copy made.
Writing boot sector.
===

Editing /etc/lilo.conf:
boot=/dev/sda1
root=/dev/sda1
lba32
#compact

#My changes below...
install=menu
#install=/boot/boot.b

delay=20
map=/boot/map
read-only
disk=/dev/sda
  bios = 0x80
disk=/dev/hda
  bios = 0x81
prompt
default=2417smp1
timeout=50
#image=/vmlinuz
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17
  label=2417smp1
  read-only
=

lilo -v:
LILO version 22.3.2, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2002 John Coffman
Released 11-Jul-2002 and compiled at 11:04:56 on Aug 31 2002.

Reading boot sector from /dev/sda1
Using MENU secondary loader
Calling map_insert_data

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17
Added 2417smp1 *

/boot/boot.0801 exists - no backup copy made.
Writing boot sector.

=
reboot:
...




Installation screen proposal (was Please test this woody cd image)

2002-04-19 Thread Svante Signell
Hello,

When booting the Woody CD you are presented to the information screen
giving general information and ways to get help, etc _before_ choosing
which kernel to boot.

After choosing kernel and booting, however, you immediately get to the
'Choose language', 'Choose Language Variant' and 'Release Notes'
screens without any means to back out, correct mistakes etc. Finally
after the first four screens you enter the 'Installation Main Menu'.

I have the following proposal of an additional installation screen, as
follows:

=
After the initial screen, and _before_ entering the language choice
present another screen, telling the user what is happening next, eg:

Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 3.0/Woody. You have chosen to boot kernel xx, eg 
bf42. 

The steps to follow next in the installation procedure are:
1) Choose Language 
2) Choose Language Variant 
3) Read Release notes 
4) Enter Installation Main Menu

When you enter the Main menu, several choices will be presented, and a
default path for install will also be given. From there you will have
the choice to back out of the installation if needed.

If you feel unsure, need to get more information, make adjustments etc
before proceeding you now have the choice to back out by removing the
installation CD and press RESET or CONTROL-ALT-DEL now.  This is
also the way to go if you want to restart the installation using
another kernel.

For those of who are interested in the boot log you can do so by ...
(enter text here)


In my opinion this would help especially new Debian users to feel more
comfortable with what is going to happen during the install. (I know
that a graphical installer is in the works, but not until woody+1)

Best wishes,
Svante Signell

Below follows unanswered question in an earlier posting.  srs writes:
 Addtional boxes boot-tested with woody-isolinux:
  
  Boxdisksidepci  bf24
  Comapaq Presario 5640/5670 IDE   OK OK
  Dell Dimension XPS 733rIDE   OK OK
  Dual Celeron MSI6120   SCSI+IDE  OK OK
  Em2 QDI Brilliant  SCSI  OK OK (compact tested OK too)
  Dell Inspiron 4100 laptop  IDE   OK OK
  
  A few comments about the installer program:
  
  1. Is it possible to generate a boot log, and to be able to view it
 while installing?
  
  2. It would be nice to be able to back out, or doing a reboot _before_
 having to go as long as to the keyboard setup phase. You maybe
 changed your mind before coming that far: What am I doing?, I don't
 have all info available!, whats happening next?, I want to quit the
 install!, etc.
  
  3. When coming to the part of the install where you have several
 choices, the reboot, restart and prevoius step options should be
 higher up in the menu. This enables you to see a way out of the
 install procedure, if needed.
  
  Eagerly waiting for the woody release,
  Svante Signell
  


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Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-17 Thread Svante Signell
Addtional boxes boot-tested with woody-isolinux:

Boxdisksidepci  bf24
Comapaq Presario 5640/5670 IDE   OK OK
Dell Dimension XPS 733rIDE   OK OK
Dual Celeron MSI6120   SCSI+IDE  OK OK
Em2 QDI Brilliant  SCSI  OK OK (compact tested OK too)
Dell Inspiron 4100 laptop  IDE   OK OK

A few comments about the installer program:

1. Is it possible to generate a boot log, and to be able to view it
   while installing?

2. It would be nice to be able to back out, or doing a reboot _before_
   having to go as long as to the keyboard setup phase. You maybe
   changed your mind before coming that far: What am I doing?, I don't
   have all info available!, whats happening next?, I want to quit the
   install!, etc.

3. When coming to the part of the install where you have several
   choices, the reboot, restart and prevoius step options should be
   higher up in the menu. This enables you to see a way out of the
   install procedure, if needed.

Eagerly waiting for the woody release,
Svante Signell

Matt Zimmerman writes:
  On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 03:49:03PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
  
   I tested the isolinux boot image on 3 random workstations (Dell and HP) as
   well as an IBM ThinkPad T21.  All of them worked fine with both idepci and
   bf24 kernels.
  
  Also tried a Compaq Deskpro, both idepci and bf24 worked.
  
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Re: (open)ssh-2.3.0p1 when??

2001-01-08 Thread Svante Signell
Damian M Gryski writes:
  On Sun, 07 Jan 2001, Svante Signell wrote:
   Is openssh ever going to be upgraded? Latest unstable version is
   2.2.0p1-1.1 from September? while the latest OpenBSD release is now
   2.3.0p1! Maybe the package also should change name from ssh to openssh.
  
 openssh 2.3.0p1 was installed into unstable (sid) on Dec 30.  If you
 think you're tracking unstable, then you probably forgot to change
 the distribution from 'woody' to 'sid' in /etc/apt/sources.list for
 your non-us machine.
I am trackng unstable and finally (today) the new version was present
at unstable/non-US. Thanks!
  
 Otherwise, wait another week and it should be moved into woody.
  
 HTH,
  
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Configure error for lm-sensors (2.5.4-2)

2001-01-07 Thread Svante Signell
Setting up lm-sensors (2.5.4-2) ...
/sbin/MAKEDEV: major_ptym%d=2: command not found
/sbin/MAKEDEV: major_ptys%d=3: command not found
/sbin/MAKEDEV: major_tts%d=4: command not found
/sbin/MAKEDEV: major_cua%d=5: command not found
/sbin/MAKEDEV: major_pts%d=136: command not found




(open)ssh-2.3.0p1 when??

2001-01-07 Thread Svante Signell
Is openssh ever going to be upgraded? Latest unstable version is
2.2.0p1-1.1 from September? while the latest OpenBSD release is now
2.3.0p1! Maybe the package also should change name from ssh to openssh.




Sigsegvs after latest glibc-update

2001-01-03 Thread Svante Signell
Since the latest update of glibc (libc6-2.2-8) in unstable, several
games, such as ut436, gltron, terminus ceased to work, exiting with a
SIGSEGV error. What up?




Re: gtk-doc vs glib1.2-dev info file conflict

2000-12-27 Thread Svante Signell
I have the helix version installed: 
(Also this version should replace libgtk-doc, shouldn't it?)

#dpkg -s libglib1.2-dev
Package: libglib1.2-dev
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 367
Maintainer: Helix Code, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: glib1.2
Version: 1.2.8-helix1
Replaces: libgtk-doc, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.6-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev, 
libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
Provides: libglib-dev, libglib1.1-dev
Depends: libglib1.2 (= 1.2.8-helix1)
Suggests: libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc
Conflicts: libglib-dev, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.7-dev, libglib1.1.8-dev, 
libglib1.1.9-dev, libglib1.1.10-dev, libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, 
libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev

Ben Gertzfield writes:
   Svante == Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Svante When upgrading libgtk-doc glib.info.gz conflicts with the
  Svante same file from libglib1.2-dev. Which package is to remove
  Svante the info file?
  
  That's weird. From the control file:
  
  Package: libglib1.2-dev
  Architecture: any
  Section: devel
  Depends: libglib1.2 (= ${Source-Version})
  Suggests: libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc
  Conflicts: libglib-dev, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.7-dev, 
  libglib1.1.8-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev, libglib1.1.10-dev, libglib1.1.11-dev, 
  libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
  Provides: libglib-dev, libglib1.1-dev
  Replaces: libgtk-doc, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.6-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev, 
  libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
  
  It definitely Replaces: libgtk-doc.  Which version are you installing?
  
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gtk-doc vs glib1.2-dev info file conflict

2000-12-26 Thread Svante Signell
When upgrading libgtk-doc glib.info.gz conflicts with the same file
from libglib1.2-dev. Which package is to remove the info file?

Preparing to replace libgtk-doc 1:1.0.6-4 (using 
.../libgtk-doc_1%3a1.0.6-5_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgtk-doc ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-doc_1%3a1.0.6-5_all.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/info/glib.info.gz', which is also in package 
libglib1.2-dev
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-doc_1%3a1.0.6-5_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)




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