Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
On Jo, 11 oct 12, 18:22:50, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:59:35AM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Of course, being able to download stuff from two different servers at the same time had a better end result, and as long as is one download at a time per server, I think it can be considered socially acceptable. Yes, which is why there's Acquire::Queue-Mode host; see apt.conf(5) for the full details on this one. You don't need shell scripts and things like axel to get this. Sorry, but I don't understand how this is supposed to increase my download speed. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
On Sb, 13 oct 12, 16:55:17, David Kalnischkies wrote: If you don't fall for such placebo effects you are unfortunately out of luck as host is the default, but you can use a service like http.debian.net (which only works so well because host is the default …) to get a real benefit - assuming that you really have more bandwidth available than one mirror is able to provide you without being unfair/anti-social to all the other users using the same mirror, which is how apt-fast works. I have yet to find a reliable mirror that is able to saturate my bandwidth :( I'll try http.debian.net If you wonder why APT is getting all packages from one source (the first one mentioned in the sources.list) even if it could choose between two or more sources in your sources.list: It is assumed your sources.list is ordered from most to least desired source: e.g. CD-ROM, local mirror, internet mirror. Getting a package from the internet if it could be acquired through CD-ROM would be a waste of resources (be it time, money, traffic, $yourmetric or a wild mixture of all of them). Same for local vs. internet mirror. This is documented in sources.list(5) So the mentioned setting effects situations in which package A and B are available from different sources - these are acquired in parallel if possible. Which does not bring significant improvements in most cases. ¹ note that Wouter hasn't promised that. It was just pointed out that the desired behavior is actually already implemented (and I am just making it clear that this is the default value). Would be nice to mention this also in the manpage ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
On Thu 11 Oct 2012 02:55:24 Marco d'Itri escribió: On Oct 11, Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.or.jp wrote: apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically improve apt download times by downloading packages in parallel, with multiple connections per package. well, isn't it huge load for repository servers? As a mirror operator I consider this antisocial. True. As a developer, I doubt that this can provide significant speed improvements other than for pathological cases. Well, parallel download does **greatly** improves speed when you access international servers, like we had to do in Argentina until some few weeks ago. Of course, being able to download stuff from two different servers at the same time had a better end result, and as long as is one download at a time per server, I think it can be considered socially acceptable. Regards, Lisandro. -- The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. http://www.devtopics.com/best-programming-jokes/ Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
On Thu 11 Oct 2012 09:59:35 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer escribió: [snip] Well, parallel download does **greatly** improves speed when you access international servers, like we had to do in Argentina until some few weeks ago. WRT non i386/amd64 archs. -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. Anonymous Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:59:35AM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Of course, being able to download stuff from two different servers at the same time had a better end result, and as long as is one download at a time per server, I think it can be considered socially acceptable. Yes, which is why there's Acquire::Queue-Mode host; see apt.conf(5) for the full details on this one. You don't need shell scripts and things like axel to get this. -- Copyshops should do vouchers. So that next time some bureaucracy requires you to mail a form in triplicate, you can mail it just once, add a voucher, and save on postage. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121011162250.gd25...@grep.be
Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominique Lasserre lasserr...@gmail.com * Package name: apt-fast Version : 0.7.6 Upstream Authors: Matt Parnell, Dominique Lasserre * URL : https://github.com/ilikenwf/apt-fast.git * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Bash Description : shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically improve apt download times by downloading packages in parallel, with multiple connections per package. It uses aria2 oder axel as download managers and apt-get --print-uris to get download URLs. Bash and Zsh autocompletion included (derived from distributed apt-get). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121010215331.7523.77516.reportbug@localhost
Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:53:31 +0200 Dominique Lasserre lasserr...@gmail.com wrote: * Package name: apt-fast apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically improve apt download times by downloading packages in parallel, with multiple connections per package. well, isn't it huge load for repository servers? -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.or.jp/org http://wiki.debian.org/HidekiYamane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121011102647.53585a12d8735b8b7cefc...@debian.or.jp
Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude
On Oct 11, Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.or.jp wrote: apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically improve apt download times by downloading packages in parallel, with multiple connections per package. well, isn't it huge load for repository servers? As a mirror operator I consider this antisocial. As a developer, I doubt that this can provide significant speed improvements other than for pathological cases. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
