Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-08-16 Thread Ben Finney
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 ]] Ben Finney 

 | The VCS browser link for ‘python-coverage’ used to work before the
 | changes this year. Now it leads to a 404 response.

 Fixed.

Confirmed fixed, thank you.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-08-16 Thread O. Andrew
I'd like to see hgweb repo browser any time soon, too. It's very
annoying that it doesn't work any more.

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 Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
 to the anonscm gitweb instanace.

 I'm still seeing directory listings instead of the expected repository pages
 for /hg/xine-lib/*...

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-08-16 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
O. Andrew bugzi...@tut.by writes:

 I'd like to see hgweb repo browser any time soon, too. It's very
 annoying that it doesn't work any more.

If you don't make the alioth admins guess which URLs work or not, things
may actually be fixed. :)

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-08-16 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org, 2011-08-16, 14:32:
I'd like to see hgweb repo browser any time soon, too. It's very 
annoying that it doesn't work any more.


If you don't make the alioth admins guess which URLs work or not, 
things may actually be fixed. :)


There's nothing to guess here. None of http://hg.debian.org/ URLs work, 
because, well, there is no hgweb running on alioth.


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-08-15 Thread Ben Finney
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 ]] Sven Hoexter 

 | On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken
 | Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions
 | will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable.

 What VCS fields are broken?

The VCS browser link for ‘python-coverage’ used to work before the
changes this year. Now it leads to a 404 response.


URL:http://bzr.debian.org/loggerhead/collab-maint/python-coverage/python-coverage.debian/

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-08-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ben Finney 

| The VCS browser link for ‘python-coverage’ used to work before the
| changes this year. Now it leads to a 404 response.
| 
| 
URL:http://bzr.debian.org/loggerhead/collab-maint/python-coverage/python-coverage.debian/

Fixed.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-09 Thread Ben Finney
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 ]] Ben Finney 

 | No change on my side; still 404 when I visit the VCS repository link.

 Clear your browser cache, then:

I had, but still got the same wrong URL.

But:

  curl -i http://bzr.debian.org/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/
 HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
 [...]
 Location: 
 http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/

I can repeat this result, so the server is doing the right thing.

Thanks, and sorry to everyone else for the noise.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-09 Thread chris h
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
 [various URLs have been fixed]

http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/ has a link to
http://git.debian.org/?s=pkg-java . This doesn't give a flat 404, but
an index page that's rather useless. I suppose a flat redirect from
http://git.debian.org to http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb isn't
possible?

Thanks,
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] chris h 

| On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
|  [various URLs have been fixed]
| 
| http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/ has a link to
| http://git.debian.org/?s=pkg-java .

Fixed now.  It seems like the search is quite slow, I'm not entirely
sure why that is, though.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-08 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 wsvn is already on the list of stuff still to fix as listed on
 http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr .

Added wsvn rewrite config to the pad.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-06-08 Thread Agustin Martin
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 01:12:19PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 27 May 2011, Agustin Martin wrote:
  Besides the problems I pointed out in my last mail, seems to be some
  confusion for personal git repos. I see they were duplicated during 
  migration between wagner and vasks. 
...
  I even had a problem with one of my experimental repos which ended up
  pushing to one box and pulling from the other.
 
 If you pull from git:// and push to ssh:// that can happen yes.[A
 
 Another reason why the repos are also needed on vasks, is that the
 symlinks in /git/users/ are created by the script
 /srv/git.debian.org/bin/genindex that runs on vasks (it needs write
 access).
 
 But all this is clearly sub-optimal, we need to find a solution. The only
 reasonable solution (except sharing home directories between both hosts)
 that I have identified is to stop storing those personal repositories in
 ~/public_git/ and put them directly in /git/users. The script on vasks
 could detect new ~/public_git/ directories and move them to /git/users/
 and create ~/public_git as symlink instead.  If the user want a
 ~/public_git symlink on wagner, he should do it himself (it's only
 required for the git url using /~$USER/ not for those with /users/$USER/).
 
 The backup rules could be modified to exclude /git/users/ if needed.
 
 How does that sound?

Sorry for the late reply and thanks for caring about this. 

I am not too familiar with the internals of the new alioth setup, so I am
not realy aware of the pros and cons of every proposed way.

That said, your proposal of moving vasks repos under public_* to a new 
location exported to wagner looks OK to me. Seems to be the lesser evil 
and avoid adding yet another export.

I personally do not like other solutions that imply physical copying of data
across servers, like rsyncing public_* parts of home but, as said, this is
just an opinion with no deep knowledge of the system. 

Yes, sharing home dirs is another option. This however may require per user
manual synchronization first, new stuff under public_* goes to vasks while 
changes in the html stuff is done in wagner.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-08 Thread Ben Finney
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 ]] Ben Finney 

 | Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:
 |  ]] Ben Finney 
 |  | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for
 |  | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html.
 |  These have been fixed now.
 | 
 | Not for me. The VCS repository link just gives a 404 error.

 Indeed, fixed now.

No change on my side; still 404 when I visit the VCS repository link.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ben Finney 

| No change on my side; still 404 when I visit the VCS repository link.

Clear your browser cache, then:

 curl -i http://bzr.debian.org/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
[...]
Location: 
http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/

 curl -i 
 http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/collab-maint/comixcursors/comixcursors.debian/
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[...]

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ben Finney 

| Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for
| URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html.

These have been fixed now.

| The VCS browse link doesn't work for
| URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html.

Ditto.

(Now, loggerhead has fallen over or is a fragile piece of software, so
that bit's still broken, but the apache config is at least correct.)

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-07 Thread Ben Finney
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 ]] Ben Finney 

 | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for
 | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html.

 These have been fixed now.

Not for me. The VCS repository link just gives a 404 error.

(Note that the correct response will look like an empty directory;
the VCS's hidden directory won't show up on a default directory listing
from the web server.)

 | The VCS browse link doesn't work for
 | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html.

 Ditto.

That one's fixed.


I highlight these two because they're using different ways of getting at
the VCS repositories; previously both of the following would work:

$VCSNAME.debian.org/$VCSNAME/$PROJECTPATH/
$VCSNAME.debian.org/$PROJECTPATH/

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-07 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Tollef,

 ]] Ben Finney 

 | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for
 | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html.

 These have been fixed now.
 
 | The VCS browse link doesn't work for
 | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html.

 Ditto.

Great!  

Can the SVN ones be similarly fixed; e.g.
http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/insighttoolkit.html


Thanks,
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Steve M. Robbins 

| Can the SVN ones be similarly fixed; e.g.
| http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/insighttoolkit.html

wsvn is already on the list of stuff still to fix as listed on
http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr .

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ben Finney 

| Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:
| 
|  ]] Ben Finney 
| 
|  | Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for
|  | URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html.
| 
|  These have been fixed now.
| 
| Not for me. The VCS repository link just gives a 404 error.

Indeed, fixed now.

| (Note that the correct response will look like an empty directory;
| the VCS's hidden directory won't show up on a default directory listing
| from the web server.)

I know about this, and I think it's a terrible decision from the bzr
team to by default point people to what looks like a completely empty
directory.  This is quite separate from wrong redirects, though.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 21:15 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
  vasks has the copy of the repositories.
  
  wagner NFS mounts the repositories read-only.
  
  vasks is {git,svn,…}.debian.org (so ssh://git.d.o/ continues working),
  making svn:// and similar protocols work requires TCP proxying.
 [...]
 
 The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for
 anonymous access.  Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the
 Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to
 change the read-write/push URLs.  Therefore I think it is more important
 that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work.

I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective
clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees.

thanks,
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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:

Hi,

  The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for
  anonymous access.  Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the
  Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to
  change the read-write/push URLs.  Therefore I think it is more important
  that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work.
 
 I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective
 clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees.

In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I for one
already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. where needed.
Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in the middle of this nice
epic chaos and switching back now would make it even worse.
On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken Vcs
fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions will be
based on what's in unstable that might be bearable.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Montag, den 06.06.2011, 09:18 +0200 schrieb Sven Hoexter:
 On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
   The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for
   anonymous access.  Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the
   Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to
   change the read-write/push URLs.  Therefore I think it is more important
   that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work.
  
  I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their respective
  clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned trees.
 
 In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I for one
 already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. where needed.
 Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in the middle of this nice
 epic chaos and switching back now would make it even worse.
 On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken Vcs
 fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions will be
 based on what's in unstable that might be bearable.

if there is consensus to switch back for anonymous access, then it
should be doable to also support the anonvcs-links, so that your
modified checkout keeps working.

I for one am going to wait for this to settle completely before even
thinking about changing the VCS fields in all my and my team’s
packages...

Greetings,
Joachim

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:02:42AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:

Hi,

 if there is consensus to switch back for anonymous access, then it
 should be doable to also support the anonvcs-links, so that your
 modified checkout keeps working.

Sure but it would still mean that we first managed to break anonymous
checkouts for a few weeks and then unbreak it by breaking the commit
access. I'm not sure if that's such a great idea now after the changes
started to trickle down. I've no good idea how to meassure the
impact beside counting packets on vasks and guessing if it's worth
to switch again.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-06-06 at 09:18am, Sven Hoexter wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
   The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs 
   for anonymous access.  Also regular Alioth users will be more 
   aware of the Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know 
   that they need to change the read-write/push URLs.  Therefore I 
   think it is more important that the URLs for anonymous access 
   continue to work.
  
  I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their 
  respective clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned 
  trees.
 
 In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I 
 for one already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. 
 where needed. Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in 
 the middle of this nice epic chaos and switching back now would make 
 it even worse. On the other hand there are all these packages in 
 stable with broken Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that 
 most contributions will be based on what's in unstable that might be 
 bearable.

I think that switching back even when some have already adapted is still 
the best approach (if technically sensible to revert at all!):

I don't mean to punish early adopters, but places with links difficult 
to change should in my opinion take priority, as early adopters likely 
can also early revert.


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 10:24 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 On 11-06-06 at 09:18am, Sven Hoexter wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:17:03AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
   On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 20:56:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs 
for anonymous access.  Also regular Alioth users will be more 
aware of the Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know 
that they need to change the read-write/push URLs.  Therefore I 
think it is more important that the URLs for anonymous access 
continue to work.
   
   I concur. In addition there's way less committers (with their 
   respective clones, chekouts, etc) than current anonymous cloned 
   trees.
  
  In general I'd agree but I think it's too late now to switch back. I 
  for one already started to change Vcs-* fields, fix checkouts etc. 
  where needed. Other people did so aswell. My guess is that we're in 
  the middle of this nice epic chaos and switching back now would make 
  it even worse. On the other hand there are all these packages in 
  stable with broken Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that 
  most contributions will be based on what's in unstable that might be 
  bearable.
 
 I think that switching back even when some have already adapted is still 
 the best approach (if technically sensible to revert at all!):
 
 I don't mean to punish early adopters, but places with links difficult 
 to change should in my opinion take priority

In particular all the Vcs-* links baked into stable are hard to change
at this point...

Ian.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Sven Hoexter 

| On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken
| Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions
| will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable.

What VCS fields are broken?

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 12:09:41PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:

Hi,

 What VCS fields are broken?

Oh I see for gitweb and git://git.d.o everything is already in place and
svn.d.o redirects for /wsvn/ and others are already on the todo list. Sorry
for the noise and false claims.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, June 6, 2011 12:09, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 ]] Sven Hoexter

 | On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken
 | Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions
 | will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable.

 What VCS fields are broken?

There are still many links that have now broken. The Vcs-Browse link
here's an example: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnupg.html
and on the secure-testing mailinglist we also got a report from a user
that his existing RSS feeds from wsvn do not work anymore.

http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr also lists a few others that don't work yet.


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-06 Thread Ben Finney
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 ]] Sven Hoexter 

 | On the other hand there are all these packages in stable with broken
 | Vcs fields now. Still not nice but assuming that most contributions
 | will be based on what's in unstable that might be bearable.

 What VCS fields are broken?

Neither the VCS repository link nor the VCS browse link work for
URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/comixcursors.html.

The VCS browse link doesn't work for
URL:http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lojban-common.html.

(All of those worked before the migration TTBOMK.)

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Bernd Zeimetz 

| On 05/26/2011 07:54 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|  ]] Scott Kitterman 
|  
|  | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got
|  | changed?
|  
|  No.
|  
|  And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd
|  like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even
|  though you think it makes URLs uglier.  They're done to avoid cyclic
|  dependencies between services.
| 
| Please explain that.

vasks has the copy of the repositories.

wagner NFS mounts the repositories read-only.

vasks is {git,svn,…}.debian.org (so ssh://git.d.o/ continues working),
making svn:// and similar protocols work requires TCP proxying.

ergo, circular dependencies between the hosts.  This is something we
want to avoid.

| And I still think loosing the old names is a very annoying PITA.

I'll add SRV records the moment git and svn support resolving resources
using SRV record, you can have the old names back then.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 21:15 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 ]] Bernd Zeimetz 
 
 | On 05/26/2011 07:54 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 |  ]] Scott Kitterman 
 |  
 |  | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got
 |  | changed?
 |  
 |  No.
 |  
 |  And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd
 |  like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even
 |  though you think it makes URLs uglier.  They're done to avoid cyclic
 |  dependencies between services.
 | 
 | Please explain that.
 
 vasks has the copy of the repositories.
 
 wagner NFS mounts the repositories read-only.
 
 vasks is {git,svn,…}.debian.org (so ssh://git.d.o/ continues working),
 making svn:// and similar protocols work requires TCP proxying.
[...]

The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for
anonymous access.  Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the
Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to
change the read-write/push URLs.  Therefore I think it is more important
that the URLs for anonymous access continue to work.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-06-03 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Roland,
Cc:ing this mail to debian-devel and debian-edu ML

first of all: Thanks for all the efforts you spend on maintaining (and  
lately upgrading) Alioth!!!


And...

...in Hamburg and Trondheim there will be two DebianEdu developer  
gatherings this weekend. However, (for me) there seems to be a problem  
with DebianEdu's SVN repositories (and probably others). Maybe I am  
just doing something essentially wrong, when trying to access the new  
Alioth servers, but maybe there really is an issue and in case of  
that, the DebianEdu group really needs your help today!!!


Let me just say, that I can access git repositories on Alioth (vasks)  
via SSH pubkey auth. So, the basic access to the new servers works for  
me. The problem I encountered this morning is rather SVN specific.


On Sa 28 Mai 2011 11:27:57 CEST Roland Mas wrote:


Yaroslav Halchenko, 2011-05-23 22:39:48 -0400 :



where previously available could be now?
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file

both
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/deps/
seems to be empty


1.
This morning I tried to update my subversion copy  
(svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu) and the action failed: my SVN URL for  
Debian Edu is:

svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src

2.
I then tried to checkout a new working copy via svn+ssh, which also fails:

quote
mike@minobo:~/MyDocuments/4projects$ svn co -q  
svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src debian-edu
svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option  
from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration  
file.

svn: Netzwerkverbindung wurde unerwartet geschlossen
/quote

3.
I also tried to peer at viewvc, this works, but the WebGUI of ViewVC  
is not really comparable with WebSVN. Especially, if you want to use  
it for viewing logs and diffs.


4.
I tried to seek for WebSVN, but the WebSVN is seemingly gone.

Questions:

 o am I maybe just getting something wrong, missing something?
 o do you have a clue what this problem might be (in case I am not missing
   something)?
 o can we (DebianEdu Team) solve the issues ourselves?
 o if there is a bug on svn.debian.org, is there a chance that you can fix it
   today?!?
 o is there a change of gettings WebSVN back? Maybe also today?

I hope this is just a false alarm and the problem is on my side...

Thanks for taking a look!!!
Mike




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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-06-03 Thread L. Redrejo
El vie, 03-06-2011 a las 09:49 +0200, Mike Gabriel escribió:
 Hi Roland,
 Cc:ing this mail to debian-devel and debian-edu ML
 
 first of all: Thanks for all the efforts you spend on maintaining (and  
 lately upgrading) Alioth!!!
 
 And...
 
 ...in Hamburg and Trondheim there will be two DebianEdu developer  
 gatherings this weekend. However, (for me) there seems to be a problem  
 with DebianEdu's SVN repositories (and probably others). Maybe I am  
 just doing something essentially wrong, when trying to access the new  
 Alioth servers, but maybe there really is an issue and in case of  
 that, the DebianEdu group really needs your help today!!!
 
 Let me just say, that I can access git repositories on Alioth (vasks)  
 via SSH pubkey auth. So, the basic access to the new servers works for  
 me. The problem I encountered this morning is rather SVN specific.
 
 On Sa 28 Mai 2011 11:27:57 CEST Roland Mas wrote:
 
  Yaroslav Halchenko, 2011-05-23 22:39:48 -0400 :
 
  where previously available could be now?
  http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file
 
  both
  http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/
  http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/deps/
  seems to be empty
 
 1.
 This morning I tried to update my subversion copy  
 (svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu) and the action failed: my SVN URL for  
 Debian Edu is:
 svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src
 
 2.
 I then tried to checkout a new working copy via svn+ssh, which also fails:
 
 quote
 mike@minobo:~/MyDocuments/4projects$ svn co -q  
 svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src debian-edu
 svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option  
 from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration  
 file.
 svn: Netzwerkverbindung wurde unerwartet geschlossen
 /quote
 



That's easy to fix, you have to remove the old keys from yor 
/home/minobo/.ssh/known_hosts file. If you don't know how to find them,
just try

ssh min...@svn.debian.org

and you'll see the message with the wrong ssh keys.


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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-06-03 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi José, hi Roland,

On Fr 03 Jun 2011 09:52:08 CEST José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:


2.
I then tried to checkout a new working copy via svn+ssh, which also fails:

quote
mike@minobo:~/MyDocuments/4projects$ svn co -q
svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/src debian-edu
svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option
from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration
file.
svn: Netzwerkverbindung wurde unerwartet geschlossen
/quote



That's easy to fix, you have to remove the old keys from yor
/home/minobo/.ssh/known_hosts file. If you don't know how to find them,
just try


Ahhh... well... I had realized this when SSH'ing directly, but had not  
tried the svn update command afterwards... What a confusing error  
description given by SVN.


So, that is fixed.

So my request gets reduced to this...


However, re-introducing WebSVN on Alioth would still be a nice-to-have  
thing...



Greets,
Mike

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-06-03 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/26/2011 07:54 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 ]] Scott Kitterman 
 
 | Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got
 | changed?
 
 No.
 
 And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd
 like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even
 though you think it makes URLs uglier.  They're done to avoid cyclic
 dependencies between services.

Please explain that. I can't see how a cyclic dependency could happen
there. And I still think loosing the old names is a very annoying PITA.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-06-01 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
Any news about wsvn and viewvc (viewsvn)?

There are hundreds of packages that have Vcs-Browser pointing to
links like
http://svn.debian.org/{vie,}wsvn/python-modules/packages/mako/trunk/
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-29 Thread Roland Mas
Yaroslav Halchenko, 2011-05-23 22:39:48 -0400 :

 on a related note (although not as critical as restoration of
 git://git.d.o which I expect to impact  thousands:

 $ grep git:// 
 /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.lcs.mit.edu_debian_dists_sid_main_source_Sources | 
 wc -l
 3716

 )

 where previously available could be now?
 http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file

 both
 http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/
 http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/deps/
 seems to be empty

 ?

 Thanks in advance for clarifications

  Since the same tool (ViewVC) is used both for CVS and Subversion
repositories, and it operates on repository names, a Subversion
repository can be masked by a CVS repository of the same name.  In olden
times, every non-CVS repository had to be created by hand, because the
forge software didn't handle them, so a lot of projects got a CVS
repository even if they never actually used it; so there were lots of
empty CVS repositories, potentially masking Subversion ones.

  I removed those empties, so that problem shouldn't happen anymore.
(I'm offline as I write this email though, so I can't check for the
specific instances you wrote about.)

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-29 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Roland Mas lola...@debian.org wrote:
 - repository browsers for the major SCM tools are also available from
  wagner, see http://anonscm.debian.org/ for the links.

There seems to be an issue with loggerhead (the VCS browser for bzr).
Some repositories show up, but not all. Notably, collab-maint seems to
not be available. Compare what can be seen on loggerhead
http://anonscm.debian.org/loggerhead/ with what exists on vasks.d.o
ssh vasks.debian.org ls /bzr.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-28 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Bernd Zeimetz may or may not have written...

[snip]
 Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
 to the anonscm gitweb instanace.

I'm still seeing directory listings instead of the expected repository pages
for /hg/xine-lib/*...

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 27 May 2011 21:58:30 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen wrote:

 ]] Francesco Poli 
 
 | Could someone please confirm that pushing to
 | ssh://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
 | should work as before and won't break anything?
 
 It should.

Thank you very much for your kind confirmation.
I've just pushed one commit and everything seems to have worked as
it used to work before the alioth migration!   :-)

 If you get errors from post-commit/post-push hooks about
 stuff not being installed or not working, tell us (the Alioth admins,
 ad...@alioth.debian.org) about it and we'll try to get it fixed.

The commits mailing list (apt-listbugs-commits@l.a.d.o) received the
e-mail message corresponding to the commit; I am not aware of any other
post-commit/post-push hooks.
I haven't seen any errors on stdout or stderr, while pushing with git
(or should I look somewhere else?).
I think everything went fine.

 
 | Could someone confirm that the host key is the one announced in
 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html
 | for vasks.debian.org?
 
 That should be correct, yes.

I confirm!   :-)

 Or you could grab it from the known hosts
 file on any debian.org host (or https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi)

I am not a DD, hence I don't (think I) have access to any of those
boxes...
Anyway, the messages to debian-devel-announce@l.d.o were enough to
check the fingerprints...

 
 Regards,

Once again: thanks a lot for your kind reply!
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 28 May 2011 18:23:50 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote:

 On Fri, 27 May 2011 21:58:30 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
[...]
  If you get errors from post-commit/post-push hooks about
  stuff not being installed or not working, tell us (the Alioth admins,
  ad...@alioth.debian.org) about it and we'll try to get it fixed.
 
 The commits mailing list (apt-listbugs-commits@l.a.d.o) received the
 e-mail message corresponding to the commit; I am not aware of any other
 post-commit/post-push hooks.
 I haven't seen any errors on stdout or stderr, while pushing with git
 (or should I look somewhere else?).
 I think everything went fine.

Oops, I probably spoke too early.
I received a bounce via e-mail!

I am forwarding it to adminn@a.d.o ...


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-27 Thread Petr Salinger

And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd
like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even
though you think it makes URLs uglier.  They're done to avoid cyclic
dependencies between services.



Please note, that not only git links are (have been) broken.

See i.e. Vcs-* from eglibc or libbsd packages:

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/
svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/glibc-bsd/?op=log

The page http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Svn is not updated either
and still suggests using http://svn.debian.org/wsvn

Please consider some redirection instead of 404 page.

Thanks

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Petr Salinger 

| http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/

Yeah, wsvn isn't enabled yet.

| svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-glibc/glibc-package/

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-27 Thread Agustin Martin
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:39:06PM +0200, Agustin Martin wrote:
 On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:03:13 +0200 Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
 
  If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
  be fixed.
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks Alioth maintainers for all the hard work you did for the migration.
 As happens after every migration, some things may still be left. So, I am
 adding more possible stuff to the TODO list. Some issues I still see 
 pending:

Besides the problems I pointed out in my last mail, seems to be some
confusion for personal git repos. I see they were duplicated during 
migration between wagner and vasks. Where should they really live?

There also is some confusion in its current handling since some of the
redirections seem to point to wagner and some to vasks, so I am afraid
currently some people is committing to wagner and some people is committing
to vasks.

To make things more funny some of the addresses result in pointing to vasks
or wagner, not to a single destination.

For instance, http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/ will show package status in
vasks, e.g.,

users/philipp/bayesian-toolbox  Bayes Toolbox Philipp Benner   24 hours ago

but looking inside that repo, last change shown is that of wagner,

heads: 8 days ago master

For some projects recently added to vasks, a project unknown error is given
(I had it for super-pt, not really a package, just a failed test about how 
gitweb displays a submodules super-repo) which was displayed at
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/, but failed to open until I also put it in
wagner.

I even had a problem with one of my experimental repos which ended up
pushing to one box and pulling from the other.

Thanks in advance for handling the transition and dealing with all these
problems.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Fri, 27 May 2011, Agustin Martin wrote:
 Besides the problems I pointed out in my last mail, seems to be some
 confusion for personal git repos. I see they were duplicated during 
 migration between wagner and vasks. Where should they really live?

It's not clear yet, it's an open question that I added to the list
of (short-term) pending stuff for Alioth admins:
http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr

Right now I continue to push to vasks, but I rsync the result
to wagner so that gitweb access works as expected.

 There also is some confusion in its current handling since some of the
 redirections seem to point to wagner and some to vasks, so I am afraid
 currently some people is committing to wagner and some people is committing
 to vasks.

Which redirections are you speaking of?

Except when you're using SSH, you always get what's on wagner:
git://git.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg.git
git://git.debian.org/users/hertzog/dpkg.git
git://anonscm.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg.git
git://anonscm.debian.org/users/hertzog/dpkg.git
http://git.debian.org/git/users/hertzog/dpkg.git
http://anonscm.debian.org/git/users/hertzog/dpkg.git/
http://git.debian.org/?p=users/hertzog/dpkg.git
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/hertzog/dpkg.git

The only URL that correspond to vasks are those:
git+ssh://git.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg.git
git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/users/hertzog/dpkg.git

 To make things more funny some of the addresses result in pointing to vasks
 or wagner, not to a single destination.
 
 For instance, http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/ will show package status in
 vasks, e.g.,

That's only because this URL is pre-generated on vasks (for performance
reasons, gitweb takes several minutes to generate it). It's done on vasks
because wagner only has read-only access.

 I even had a problem with one of my experimental repos which ended up
 pushing to one box and pulling from the other.

If you pull from git:// and push to ssh:// that can happen yes.

Another reason why the repos are also needed on vasks, is that the
symlinks in /git/users/ are created by the script
/srv/git.debian.org/bin/genindex that runs on vasks (it needs write
access).

But all this is clearly sub-optimal, we need to find a solution. The only
reasonable solution (except sharing home directories between both hosts)
that I have identified is to stop storing those personal repositories in
~/public_git/ and put them directly in /git/users. The script on vasks
could detect new ~/public_git/ directories and move them to /git/users/
and create ~/public_git as symlink instead.  If the user want a
~/public_git symlink on wagner, he should do it himself (it's only
required for the git url using /~$USER/ not for those with /users/$USER/).

The backup rules could be modified to exclude /git/users/ if needed.

How does that sound?

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-27 Thread Agustin Martin
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 01:12:19PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 27 May 2011, Agustin Martin wrote:
  Besides the problems I pointed out in my last mail, seems to be some
  confusion for personal git repos. I see they were duplicated during 
  migration between wagner and vasks. Where should they really live?
 
 It's not clear yet, it's an open question that I added to the list
 of (short-term) pending stuff for Alioth admins:
 http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr
 
 Right now I continue to push to vasks, but I rsync the result
 to wagner so that gitweb access works as expected.
 
  There also is some confusion in its current handling since some of the
  redirections seem to point to wagner and some to vasks, so I am afraid
  currently some people is committing to wagner and some people is committing
  to vasks.
 
 Which redirections are you speaking of?
 
 Except when you're using SSH, you always get what's on wagner:
 git://git.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg.git
 git://git.debian.org/users/hertzog/dpkg.git
 git://anonscm.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg.git
 git://anonscm.debian.org/users/hertzog/dpkg.git
 http://git.debian.org/git/users/hertzog/dpkg.git
 http://anonscm.debian.org/git/users/hertzog/dpkg.git/
 http://git.debian.org/?p=users/hertzog/dpkg.git
 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/hertzog/dpkg.git
 
 The only URL that correspond to vasks are those:
 git+ssh://git.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg.git
 git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/users/hertzog/dpkg.git

Thanks a lot for this summary and for the quick reply. This is really useful
to understand current status regarding personal repos. I may have missed the
relevant mail, but I was missing this kind of summary for personal repos 
(Roland's early mail did not mention them).

Since commits are always done through ssh that addresses one of my fears, 
no 'spread' commits between both boxes are expected unless someone really
forces things by wrongly using explicit wagner locations with direct access 
($user@wagner.d.o:~$user/public_git/..).

  I even had a problem with one of my experimental repos which ended up
  pushing to one box and pulling from the other.
 
 If you pull from git:// and push to ssh:// that can happen yes.

That is indeed what happened,

url = git://git.debian.org/users/agmartin/experimental/dictionaries-common.git
pushurl = 
ssh://agmar...@git.debian.org/git/users/agmartin/experimental/dictionaries-common.git

Anyway, seems that as you currently do, until handling of personal repos
becomes 'stabilized', I (and everybody else using personal repos) really
need to rsync to wagner after pushing. Otherwise people pulling from git:// 
will get old stuff.

  To make things more funny some of the addresses result in pointing to vasks
  or wagner, not to a single destination.
  
  For instance, http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/ will show package status in
  vasks, e.g.,
 
 That's only because this URL is pre-generated on vasks (for performance
 reasons, gitweb takes several minutes to generate it). It's done on vasks
 because wagner only has read-only access.

Fine. Thanks for the info. 

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-27 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org writes:
 Thanks for the info. Can you drop a mail to pet-devel or d-haskell if
 you figured out how to run pet on the new alioth?

I finished the PET2 changes for the new alioth.  It now works as good as
before (that is mostly usable, cf. [1]).  Help for the remaining
problems is always welcome [3].

See also [2] for the pkg-perl instance of PET2.

If you want, I can setup a PET2 instance for pkg-haskell.

Regards,
Ansgar

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2011/05/msg00117.html
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 25 May 2011 00:17:46 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote:

[...]
 I haven't yet tried to push to the following remote:
 ssh://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
 which was what I used to push to.
 I am a bit uneasy in trying to push: would I break anything, if the URL
 were wrong?
 Can you confirm that this URL should work as before?
 With which host key?
 The one for vasks.debian.org, which was previously announced in
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html
 ?

Sorry if I ask again, but I am getting a bit lost in trying to
understand the current status of the post-migration alioth
tuning/fixing...

Could someone please confirm that pushing to
ssh://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
should work as before and won't break anything?

Could someone confirm that the host key is the one announced in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html
for vasks.debian.org?


Thanks a lot to all alioth admins for their efforts!


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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Francesco Poli 

| Could someone please confirm that pushing to
| ssh://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
| should work as before and won't break anything?

It should.  If you get errors from post-commit/post-push hooks about
stuff not being installed or not working, tell us (the Alioth admins,
ad...@alioth.debian.org) about it and we'll try to get it fixed.

| Could someone confirm that the host key is the one announced in
| http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html
| for vasks.debian.org?

That should be correct, yes.  Or you could grab it from the known hosts
file on any debian.org host (or https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi)

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-27 Thread Joey Hess
David Paleino wrote:
 However, I wonder how should we handle websites which were backed by some
 SCM?
 I'm thinking about pkg-osm itself, or dex, or many others which relied on this
 mechanism (debian-med too, at least when I was working on it). Now that
 repositories are hosted on one machine, and everything else on another, it
 seems a bit more difficult to do (or at all doable).
 
 (also, ikiwiki is missing from wagner)

One way to handle this with ikiwiki is to make the post-commit hook on
vasks be a shell script that uses curl to trigger ikiwiki's cgi on
wagner, using ikiwiki's pingee plugin. Ikiwiki can then connect back
to vasks to get the changes and update. 

It can also be configured to push changes made to the wiki back to the
master repository on vasks. Its possible that in this configuration the
post-commit hook ping would then deadlock; it may need to be run in the
background to avoid that. I have not tested this configuration but I
think it can be made to work.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 25 May 2011, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 It also seems that repositories hosted in public_git don't show up on
 gitweb anymore. Example:
 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git
 I agree that most of them should be moved to a packaging team, but
 sometimes it makes sense to host temporary repos in one's home.

This has been fixed in the mean time. The main listing still only shows a
subset of repositories but if you know the correct url, then you can at
least access it.

(The problem was broken symlinks in wagner:/git/users/ while they were
fine on vasks:/git/users/)

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-26 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-05-26 08:03 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

 On Wed, 25 May 2011, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 It also seems that repositories hosted in public_git don't show up on
 gitweb anymore. Example:
 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git
 I agree that most of them should be moved to a packaging team, but
 sometimes it makes sense to host temporary repos in one's home.

 This has been fixed in the mean time. The main listing still only shows a
 subset of repositories but if you know the correct url, then you can at
 least access it.

But the Vcs-Browser field from debian/control still does not work, links
on packages.qa.debian.org lead to a 404:

The requested URL /gitweb/gitweb.cgi was not found on this server.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-26 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/25/2011 03:04 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

 How about posting those rewrites here or, even better, helping out the
 Alioth admins to deploy them?  I guess they could use some helping hands
 more than a bug report sent to -devel.

They are well documented in /usr/share/doc/gitweb/README with various
examples. I'm using


RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/$
RewriteRule ^/$ /index.html [L]

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^.+$
RewriteRule ^.*$  /gitweb.cgi%{REQUEST_URI}  [L,PT]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/.+\.git.*$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/repos/.*$
RewriteRule ^.*$  /gitweb.cgi%{REQUEST_URI}  [L,PT]


which should be similar to alioth's needs.


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 26 May 2011, Sven Joachim wrote:
 But the Vcs-Browser field from debian/control still does not work, links
 on packages.qa.debian.org lead to a 404:
 
 The requested URL /gitweb/gitweb.cgi was not found on this server.

That was a temporary glitch, it's fixed now.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi,

Roland Mas lola...@debian.org (23/05/2011):
   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for
 the complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported (or laugh
 them off when they come from the too-common expectation that Alioth
 can be used to run any random stuff by anyone).

sorry, but I'll go for a big thank you instead.

Those are really kick ass machines!

Running mr on my ~/debian-x directory, with 12 parallel jobs (I had to
give it a try, usually I don't need to do that much in //):
| mr update: finished (171 ok)
| 
| real 0m4.819s
| user 0m0.368s
| sys  0m0.336s

Thanks to everyone who made that possible!

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:35:00PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
 complaints,

It seems than cron jobs of users need to be reinstalled.  This might not
be a big deal but it might help to have a look into backups of old
crontabs.

I notice that the http://project.alioth.debian.org links are working
again and it seems that these pages are delivered from vasks - at least
I can find the html pages for

blends.alioth.debian.org
debian-med.alioth.debian.org

I also noticed that the code which creates these pages which was stored
in

alioth:/srv/alioth.debian.org/chroot/home/groups/blends

is now on vasks.  However, to run this code the package python-genshi
needs to be installed on this machine.  It also needs to have access
to UDD, which was possible on alioth[1]

~$ psql service=udd
psql: ERROR: service file /etc/postgresql-common/pg_service.conf not 
found

Will this UDD access be enabled on vasks?  On wagner I get a different
error:

$ psql service=udd
psql: definition of service udd not found

As a wishlist problem: Please install mc on vasks.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 25.05.2011, 09:25 +0200 schrieb Andreas Tille:
 I notice that the http://project.alioth.debian.org links are working
 again and it seems that these pages are delivered from vasks

In our case, the cgi-script is not yet working:
http://pkg-haskell.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi

Is there something we have to do about it or is cgi still on your todo
list?

The perl team seems to be further, there the script executes without
success :-)
http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 25/05/2011 00:17, Francesco Poli wrote:
 However the gitweb interface seems to have lost its fancy style sheet
 that used to be consistent with the Debian web site
 http://www.debian.org/
 

which is not a big loss, if you ask me :) Now, it's consistent with
Alioth's setup…

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread David Paleino
On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:25:37 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:35:00PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
  complaints,
 
 It seems than cron jobs of users need to be reinstalled.  This might not
 be a big deal but it might help to have a look into backups of old
 crontabs.
 
 I notice that the http://project.alioth.debian.org links are working
 again and it seems that these pages are delivered from vasks - at least
 I can find the html pages for
 
   blends.alioth.debian.org
   debian-med.alioth.debian.org

From what I can see, home directories (and repositories as well) were copied
across both machines. I tested with pkg-osm, and the website is being delivered
by wagner.

However, I wonder how should we handle websites which were backed by some
SCM?
I'm thinking about pkg-osm itself, or dex, or many others which relied on this
mechanism (debian-med too, at least when I was working on it). Now that
repositories are hosted on one machine, and everything else on another, it
seems a bit more difficult to do (or at all doable).

(also, ikiwiki is missing from wagner)

Kindly,
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:10:23 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:

  I notice that the http://project.alioth.debian.org links are working
  again and it seems that these pages are delivered from vasks
 In our case, the cgi-script is not yet working:
 http://pkg-haskell.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi
 Is there something we have to do about it or is cgi still on your todo
 list?

Maybe check the paths in pet.conf?
 
 The perl team seems to be further, there the script executes without
 success :-)
 http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi

Yup, but I haven't looked further, since the fundamental question is
still open, TTBOMK: PET needs a cache that's written by the vcs
post-commit hook (i.e. on vasks) [and a cronjob] and that's read by
the cgi (i.e. on wagner).

/*
That's the same as creating webpages (on wagner) from a hook in a
vcs (on vasks). - And the question is known to the Alioth admins
already, I'm just explaining why I'm not sure about PET details right
now :)
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 25.05.2011, 10:48 +0200 schrieb gregor herrmann:
 On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:10:23 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
 
   I notice that the http://project.alioth.debian.org links are working
   again and it seems that these pages are delivered from vasks
  In our case, the cgi-script is not yet working:
  http://pkg-haskell.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi
  Is there something we have to do about it or is cgi still on your todo
  list?

 Maybe check the paths in pet.conf?

I already fixed them. But it seems the cgi scrpit is not even executed
yet.
 
  The perl team seems to be further, there the script executes without
  success :-)
  http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi
 
 Yup, but I haven't looked further, since the fundamental question is
 still open, TTBOMK: PET needs a cache that's written by the vcs
 post-commit hook (i.e. on vasks) [and a cronjob] and that's read by
 the cgi (i.e. on wagner).
 
 /*
 That's the same as creating webpages (on wagner) from a hook in a
 vcs (on vasks). - And the question is known to the Alioth admins
 already, I'm just explaining why I'm not sure about PET details right
 now :)
 */

Thanks for the info. Can you drop a mail to pet-devel or d-haskell if
you figured out how to run pet on the new alioth?

Greetings,
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread David Paleino
On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:48:55 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:

 [..]
 
 Yup, but I haven't looked further, since the fundamental question is
 still open, TTBOMK: PET needs a cache that's written by the vcs
 post-commit hook (i.e. on vasks) [and a cronjob] and that's read by
 the cgi (i.e. on wagner).
 
 /*
 That's the same as creating webpages (on wagner) from a hook in a
 vcs (on vasks). - And the question is known to the Alioth admins
 already, I'm just explaining why I'm not sure about PET details right
 now :)
 */

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 25 May 2011 11:08:41 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:

   In our case, the cgi-script is not yet working:
   http://pkg-haskell.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/pet.cgi
   Is there something we have to do about it or is cgi still on your todo
   list?
  Maybe check the paths in pet.conf?
 I already fixed them. But it seems the cgi scrpit is not even executed
 yet.

Hm, ok.
  
  Yup, but I haven't looked further, since the fundamental question is
  still open, TTBOMK: PET needs a cache that's written by the vcs
  post-commit hook (i.e. on vasks) [and a cronjob] and that's read by
  the cgi (i.e. on wagner).
 Thanks for the info. Can you drop a mail to pet-devel or d-haskell if
 you figured out how to run pet on the new alioth?

Sure, will do.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
 - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
   from wagner, at URLs that look like
   http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
   hg;

Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
to the anonscm gitweb instanace. Breaking a massive amount of URLs in
packages - and even worse - in upstream documentation, blog posts and
pretty much everywhere else which refers to some repositries. That is
not funyy and such massice changes without even discussing them first
makes the new alioth unusable for me.


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread James Vega
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
 On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
  Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
  - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
from wagner, at URLs that look like
http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
hg;
 
 Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
 to the anonscm gitweb instanace.

The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 25/05/2011 13:20, James Vega wrote:
 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
 On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
 - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
   from wagner, at URLs that look like
   http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
   hg;

 Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
 to the anonscm gitweb instanace.
 
 The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken.
 

User-repositories are still broken though (take src:kino as an example).

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/05/11 at 07:20 -0400, James Vega wrote:
 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
  On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
   Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
   - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
 from wagner, at URLs that look like
 http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
 hg;
  
  Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
  to the anonscm gitweb instanace.
 
 The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken.

I must admit that I prefer shorter URLs. Wouldn't it be possible to
continue using http://{git,svn}.debian.org/ instead (without
redirection)?

Before: http://git.debian.org/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
After:  http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git

It also seems that repositories hosted in public_git don't show up on
gitweb anymore. Example:
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git
I agree that most of them should be moved to a packaging team, but
sometimes it makes sense to host temporary repos in one's home.

- Lucas


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread James Vega
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 01:23:49PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
 On 25/05/2011 13:20, James Vega wrote:
  On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
  On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
  Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
  - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
from wagner, at URLs that look like
http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
hg;
 
  Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
  to the anonscm gitweb instanace.
  
  The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken.
  
 
 User-repositories are still broken though (take src:kino as an example).

Yeah, that's a separate, known issue.

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, May 25, 2011 13:20, James Vega wrote:
 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
 On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
  Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
  - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
from wagner, at URLs that look like
http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs
 git
hg;

 Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
 to the anonscm gitweb instanace.

 The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken.

That's not quite true, examples are on http://titanpad.com/yyhfwA9Pyr and
people that experience unlisted brokenness can add more there.


Thijs


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 07:20:01 AM James Vega wrote:
 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
  On 05/24/2011 01:00 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
   Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
   - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
   
 from wagner, at URLs that look like
 http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs
 git hg;
  
  Please provide a proper gitweb instance or at least a proxy at that url
  to the anonscm gitweb instanace.
 
 The old URLs now redirect to the new ones, so nothing should be broken.

Will now redirect is not the same as unchanged.  While this does change 
the urgency of updating the relevant VCS- fields in debian/control, I don't 
think it avoids the need to update them eventually.  

Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got changed?

Scott K


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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/25/2011 01:30 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 I must admit that I prefer shorter URLs. Wouldn't it be possible to
 continue using http://{git,svn}.debian.org/ instead (without
 redirection)?
 
 Before: http://git.debian.org/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
 After:  http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git

Even better would be http://git.debian.org/devscripts/devscripts.git
which is easy to handle with some rewrites.



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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de writes:

 On 05/25/2011 01:30 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 I must admit that I prefer shorter URLs. Wouldn't it be possible to
 continue using http://{git,svn}.debian.org/ instead (without
 redirection)?
 
 Before: http://git.debian.org/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
 After:  http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git

 Even better would be http://git.debian.org/devscripts/devscripts.git
 which is easy to handle with some rewrites.

It is probably easy given enough information, yes. What was that URL
used for? Gitweb? Git checkouts over HTTP? Something else?

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Agustin Martin
On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:03:13 +0200 Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:

 If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
 be fixed.

Hi,

Thanks Alioth maintainers for all the hard work you did for the migration.
As happens after every migration, some things may still be left. So, I am
adding more possible stuff to the TODO list. Some issues I still see 
pending:

* Anonymous ftp access seems to not be available. For instance, for 
  dict-common, we keep a repo at 

ftp://dict-common.alioth.debian.org/pub/dict-common

  as pointed by link in http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dict-common. This
  gives a Unable to connect Iceweasel can't establish a connection to the 
  server at dict-common.alioth.debian.org.

* Probably related to the above. We had a repo accesible from

  http://dict-common.alioth.debian.org/testing

  where testing was a symlink to somewhere under the above ftp area, and no
  longer works. Probably because ftp areas seem moved to vasks and thus that 
  symlink is now broken from wagner. How should this kind of repos be
  accesed now?

* Projects search box in http://alioth.debian.org/ seems to not be working.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Olivier Berger
Le mercredi 25 mai 2011 à 16:39 +0200, Agustin Martin a écrit :
 On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:03:13 +0200 Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
 

 
 * Projects search box in http://alioth.debian.org/ seems to not be working.
 

+1, already reported in :
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?func=detailgroup_id=1aid=313139atid=21


Btw, in this thread, I'm not sure anyone has pointed at Alioth's support
tracker :
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?func=browsegroup_id=1atid=21


My 2 cents.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Peter Samuelson

[Tollef Fog Heen]
 Yeah, this is a bit bad.  It seems neither git nor svn supports SRV
 records so I've set up proxying of svn and git for now.  (That «for
 now» means I'll likely turn it off once we have a stable release that
 supports SRV records.)

SRV records?  Does alioth have any SRV records that might be useful in
this context?  I queried various combinations of 'git', 'svn',
'subversion', 'svnserve', 'alioth', 'anonscm', and 'http' in queries
based on *._tcp.*.debian.org and didn't find any.

With my Subversion upstream hat on, I'd be happy to look at SRV
records, if you have a clear idea how they would work.  I'm very much
in favor of SRV as a concept.  So, we have svn://, http://, https://
and file://.  Which of these should use SRV, and what service names
should they query?  For example, perhaps svn:// should correspond to
_svn._tcp.{hostname} before it falls back to {hostname}:3690?

I'd be reluctant to push for SRV lookups for http:// and https://, as
that would be a break from what other HTTP and WebDAV clients do.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Peter Samuelson 

| [Tollef Fog Heen]
|  Yeah, this is a bit bad.  It seems neither git nor svn supports SRV
|  records so I've set up proxying of svn and git for now.  (That «for
|  now» means I'll likely turn it off once we have a stable release that
|  supports SRV records.)
| 
| SRV records?  Does alioth have any SRV records that might be useful in
| this context?  I queried various combinations of 'git', 'svn',
| 'subversion', 'svnserve', 'alioth', 'anonscm', and 'http' in queries
| based on *._tcp.*.debian.org and didn't find any.

It would have, if git and svn supported SRV lookups, but you're right,
it does not have it set up today.  :-)

[...]

| For example, perhaps svn:// should correspond to _svn._tcp.{hostname}
| before it falls back to {hostname}:3690?

Sounds sensible to me.

| I'd be reluctant to push for SRV lookups for http:// and https://, as
| that would be a break from what other HTTP and WebDAV clients do.

Agreed, and http/https can give out redirects, so I'm less fussed about
those.

Julien Cristau wrote a proof of concept patch for git, see
http://people.debian.org/~jcristau/git-srv-hack.diff for the patch; it
doesn't look too bad.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Wed, 25 May 2011, Peter Samuelson wrote:
 SRV records?  Does alioth have any SRV records that might be useful in
 this context?  I queried various combinations of 'git', 'svn',
 'subversion', 'svnserve', 'alioth', 'anonscm', and 'http' in queries
 based on *._tcp.*.debian.org and didn't find any.

There's none currently but the idea is to create _svn._tcp.svn.debian.org
and _git._tcp.git.debian.org if the software supports them.

 With my Subversion upstream hat on, I'd be happy to look at SRV
 records, if you have a clear idea how they would work.  I'm very much
 in favor of SRV as a concept.  So, we have svn://, http://, https://
 and file://.  Which of these should use SRV, and what service names
 should they query?  For example, perhaps svn:// should correspond to
 _svn._tcp.{hostname} before it falls back to {hostname}:3690?

svn:// should be enough.

For reference, Julien Cristau came up with this for git:
http://people.debian.org/~jcristau/git-srv-hack.diff

 I'd be reluctant to push for SRV lookups for http:// and https://, as
 that would be a break from what other HTTP and WebDAV clients do.

And it's not needed since http:// already has redirect support...

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Re: Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Scott Kitterman 

| Was there some discussion of this with Alioth users before it got
| changed?

No.

And while I apologise for the problems we've had with the migration, I'd
like to ask people to just accept some of the changes we've made even
though you think it makes URLs uglier.  They're done to avoid cyclic
dependencies between services.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Mon, 23 May 2011, Roland Mas wrote:
   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
 complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported (or laugh them off
 when they come from the too-common expectation that Alioth can be used
 to run any random stuff by anyone).

1/ We lost all the ACL in the migration. Many teams rely on ACL to grant
commit rights to all DD, they are also used to ensure the entire team
keeps full write access (even when someone with a restrictive umask
pushes new files).

See how the script /srv/git.debian.org/bin/newrepo setup the ACL and
while I was part of the team I have run dozens of time the scripts
/srv/home/rhertzog/bin/add-Debian-acl.sh or
/srv/home/rhertzog/bin/add-group-acl.sh on various SCM directories.

The issue has been brought up on IRC a couple of times but I have yet
to see an answer on this topic.

It would be a major step backwards for collaborative maintenance if ACL
were no longer allowed. And if you plan to allow ACL again, will you
restore the old ACL or shall we request them again one by one?

It might be a good idea to setup a system where you store the ACL in a
textual file so that you can easily restore them without going through
the pain of backing them up explicitly.

By default each SCM directory should have write access for its own group
but any other ACL would be explicitly listed in a file:
/srv/git.debian.org/git/collab-maint g:Debian:rwX
/srv/svn.debian.org/svn/collab-maint g:Debian:rwX

And a simple script could do the restore:
(while read dir right; do
   sudo setfacl -R -m d:$right $dir;
   sudo setfacl -R -m $right $dir;
done) list-of-acl

2/ Commit mails cannot be sent from vasks, I get a local bounce:

| From MAILER-DAEMON Tue May 24 06:14:49 2011
| Return-path: 
| Envelope-to: hert...@vasks.debian.org
| Delivery-date: Tue, 24 May 2011 06:14:49 +
| Received: from Debian-exim by vasks.debian.org with local (Exim 4.72)
| id 1QOktF-00048B-BO
| for hert...@vasks.debian.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 06:14:49 +
| Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 06:14:49 +
| Message-Id: e1qoktf-00048b...@vasks.debian.org
| X-Failed-Recipients: debian-dpkg-...@lists.debian.org,
|   dpkg_...@packages.qa.debian.org
| Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
| From: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@vasks.debian.org
| To: hert...@vasks.debian.org
| Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
| 
| This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
| 
| A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
| recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
| 
|   debian-dpkg-...@lists.debian.org
| Mailing to remote domains not supported
|   dpkg_...@packages.qa.debian.org
| Mailing to remote domains not supported

3/ Others have already pointed it out, but I also agree that breaking
git:// or svn:// URLs for anonymous access is not really a good idea.
I don't know the reason for the change but I would be interested to hear it.

I don't know if git or svn supports SRV records, but if they do it would be
great to setup those so that they automatically use the new host.

In general I think it's a good idea to offload anonymous read-only access
so that we have the best performance for commits and similar stuff but
this should be mostly transparent for the user. Having to remember to switch
to anonscm is annoying.


Anyway, thank you all for the continued work on Alioth. I know how painful that
can be at times. ;-)


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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Iain Lane

Hi,

Thanks for improving Alioth :-).

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:35:00PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:

 Hi again,

 Status update for the Alioth situation:

[...]

 We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported (or laugh them off
when they come from the too-common expectation that Alioth can be used
to run any random stuff by anyone).


In addition to what has already been mentioned: doesn't look like ldap 
replication is working, so I can't use my shiny new DD account:


  laney@chicken ssh laney@wagner
  Permission denied (publickey).


Coupled with the missing ACLs this means I can't push to many 
repositories any more.


And, as others have said, please try not to break existing Vcs-* fields, 
including Vcs-Browser.


Cheers,
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org 
wrote:
 Francesco Poli invernom...@paranoici.org writes:

 I hope that some appropriate re-directions may be set up real soon now,
 so that previous URLs can continue to work as before...

 If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
 be fixed.

What is the new link for URL such as:

https://alioth.debian.org/~malat-guest/

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi!

Thanks for your work!

On 05/23/2011 10:35 PM, Roland Mas wrote:
   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
 complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported (or laugh them off
 when they come from the too-common expectation that Alioth can be used
 to run any random stuff by anyone).

What happened to the crontabs? I hope that importing upstream's git and
svn repositories into those used for Debian development is not 'random
stuff'.

Cheers,

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Martin Alfke
On 05/24/2011 09:27 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org 
 wrote:
 Francesco Poli invernom...@paranoici.org writes:

 I hope that some appropriate re-directions may be set up real soon now,
 so that previous URLs can continue to work as before...

 If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
 be fixed.
 
 What is the new link for URL such as:
 
 https://alioth.debian.org/~malat-guest/
 
 Thanks !
This one is working:
https://alioth.debian.org/users/malat-guest/


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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Martin Alfke tux...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the new link for URL such as:

 https://alioth.debian.org/~malat-guest/

 Thanks !
 This one is working:
 https://alioth.debian.org/users/malat-guest/

This does not point to my public_html pages. I hosted my gpg
transition document there.

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

I was traveling, so maybe I was missing it, but I did not find anything
on d-devel-announce: What is the rationale for the reorganization? Did
the old machine break suddently, or was it just too weak to handle the
load?

Am Montag, den 23.05.2011, 22:35 +0200 schrieb Roland Mas:
 - read/write access to the repositories through SSH happen on
   vasks.debian.org; the repositories have adresses that look like
   $scm.debian.org/$scm/$project, for $scm in arch bzr cvs darcs git hg
   svn;
 
 - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
   from wagner, at URLs that look like
   http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
   hg;

Is there a way to keep the old, short addresses? 
http://darcs.debian.org/pkg-haskell/haskell-xhtml
is much nicer than
http://anonscm.debian.org/darcs/pkg-haskell/haskell-xhtml
plus the prospect of re-uploading 200 haskell source package to change
the URL is not inviting.

Or would it at least be possible to configure vasks such that 
http://darcs.debian.org/pkg-haskell/haskell-xhtml
gets redirected correclty to 
http://anonscm.debian.org/darcs/pkg-haskell/haskell-xhtml
and not, as it currently is,
http://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-haskell/haskell-xhtml

The Darcs browser link
http://darcs.debian.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=pkg-haskell/haskell-xhtml
as used in the control files is forwarded correctly, thanks!

Thanks,
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Aron Xu
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On 2011年05月24日 15:17, Iain Lane wrote:
 
 In addition to what has already been mentioned: doesn't look like ldap
 replication is working, so I can't use my shiny new DD account:
 [...]


Alioth does not use the official password database, so I don't think
directly connect to it would work. New DDs need to request a new
password for their Alioth account. (See Alioth FAQ[1] Section 1.4  1.5)

But this does not work either because the account syncing script might
be broken now. When requesting to reset the password, it gives an error
claiming the account does not exist.


[1]http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/FAQ
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Julien Valroff
Le lundi 23 mai 2011 à 22:35:00 (+0200 CEST), Roland Mas a écrit :
   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
 complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported (or laugh them off
 when they come from the too-common expectation that Alioth can be used
 to run any random stuff by anyone).

It seems DDs haven't (yet?) been added to the collab-maint group, am I
right?

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russ Allbery 

| windlord:~/tmp debcheckout libpam-krb5
| declared git repository at git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-k5-afs/pam-krb5.git
| git clone git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-k5-afs/pam-krb5.git libpam-krb5 ...
| Cloning into libpam-krb5...
| git.debian.org[0: 217.196.43.140]: errno=Connection refused
| fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
| checkout failed (the command above returned a non-zero exit code)

Yeah, this is a bit bad.  It seems neither git nor svn supports SRV
records so I've set up proxying of svn and git for now.  (That «for now»
means I'll likely turn it off once we have a stable release that
supports SRV records.)

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-24 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:03:13 +0200 Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:

 Francesco Poli invernom...@paranoici.org writes:
 
  I hope that some appropriate re-directions may be set up real soon now,
  so that previous URLs can continue to work as before...
 
 If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
 be fixed.

Sure:

  $ grep '^Package\|^Vcs' debian/control 
  Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
  Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
  Package: apt-listbugs
  $ cd ~/tmp/TEST/
  $ git clone git://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
  Cloning into apt-listbugs...
  git.debian.org[0: 217.196.43.140]: errno=Connection refused
  fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)

The Vcs-Git URL has not worked as before for a while.
Now it seems to work again: thanks for fixing this up!   :-)

The Vcs-Browser URL
http://git.debian.org/?p=apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
seems to redirect to
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
when opened in a web browser.
However the gitweb interface seems to have lost its fancy style sheet
that used to be consistent with the Debian web site
http://www.debian.org/

I haven't yet tried to push to the following remote:
ssh://git.debian.org/git/apt-listbugs/apt-listbugs.git
which was what I used to push to.
I am a bit uneasy in trying to push: would I break anything, if the URL
were wrong?
Can you confirm that this URL should work as before?
With which host key?
The one for vasks.debian.org, which was previously announced in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg7.html
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 23 May 2011 22:35:00 +0200 Roland Mas wrote:

[...]
   Status update for the Alioth situation:
[...]
 - read/write access to the repositories through SSH happen on
   vasks.debian.org; the repositories have adresses that look like
   $scm.debian.org/$scm/$project, for $scm in arch bzr cvs darcs git hg
   svn;
 
 - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
   from wagner, at URLs that look like
   http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
   hg;
 
 - Git and Subversion also allow anonymous read-only access to the
   repositories through a dedicated protocol, with URLs such as
   git://anonscm.debian.org/$project/$project.git and
   svn://anonscm.debian.org/$project/; I can't seem to get the equivalent
   for CVS (pserver) to work right now;
 
 - repository browsers for the major SCM tools are also available from
   wagner, see http://anonscm.debian.org/ for the links.

I apologize in advance if this is a naive question, but: does this mean
that _all_ Vcs-* control fields in _all_ packages (that have them) have
to be changed?
Does this mean that _all_ existing personal repository clones (I am
thinking about git repository clones, for instance) have to change
their remote URLs (both for read-only access via specific protocol,
such as git://, and for write access via ssh://)?

I hope that some appropriate re-directions may be set up real soon now,
so that previous URLs can continue to work as before...


P.S.: Please keep me in Cc: on replies, since I am not subscribed to
debian-devel. Thanks!

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-23 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Francesco Poli invernom...@paranoici.org writes:

 I hope that some appropriate re-directions may be set up real soon now,
 so that previous URLs can continue to work as before...

If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
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Anonymous read-only access and Vcs-* [Re: Alioth status update, take 3]

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 23.05.2011 22:35, schrieb Roland Mas:
 - anonymous read-only access to the repositories is available by HTTP
   from wagner, at URLs that look like
   http://anonscm.debian.org/$scm/$project for $scm in arch bzr darcs git
   hg;
 
 - Git and Subversion also allow anonymous read-only access to the
   repositories through a dedicated protocol, with URLs such as
   git://anonscm.debian.org/$project/$project.git and
   svn://anonscm.debian.org/$project/; I can't seem to get the equivalent
   for CVS (pserver) to work right now;
   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
 complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported

It looks like

git://git.debian.org/ and
svn://svn.debian.org/

no longer work for anonymous access. That basically means that existing Vcs-*
fields are broken. I hope the old URLs still continue to work, or do you expect
maintainers to update debian/control to use the new URL scheme?

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org writes:
 Francesco Poli invernom...@paranoici.org writes:

 I hope that some appropriate re-directions may be set up real soon now,
 so that previous URLs can continue to work as before...

 If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
 be fixed.

windlord:~/tmp debcheckout libpam-krb5
declared git repository at git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-k5-afs/pam-krb5.git
git clone git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-k5-afs/pam-krb5.git libpam-krb5 ...
Cloning into libpam-krb5...
git.debian.org[0: 217.196.43.140]: errno=Connection refused
fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
checkout failed (the command above returned a non-zero exit code)

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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-23 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
on a related note (although not as critical as restoration of
git://git.d.o which I expect to impact  thousands:

$ grep git:// 
/var/lib/apt/lists/debian.lcs.mit.edu_debian_dists_sid_main_source_Sources | wc 
-l
3716

)

where previously available could be now?
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file

both
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/dep/
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/deps/
seems to be empty

?

Thanks in advance for clarifications

On Mon, 23 May 2011, Russ Allbery wrote:
  If you have a specific example of something that does not work, it can
  be fixed.

 windlord:~/tmp debcheckout libpam-krb5
 declared git repository at git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-k5-afs/pam-krb5.git
 git clone git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-k5-afs/pam-krb5.git libpam-krb5 ...
 Cloning into libpam-krb5...
 git.debian.org[0: 217.196.43.140]: errno=Connection refused
 fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
 checkout failed (the command above returned a non-zero exit code)
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Re: Alioth status update, take 3

2011-05-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi!

On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 22:35:00 +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
   We should now be in the phase where we pretend it's done, wait for the
 complaints, and fix the problems as they are reported.

The project web sites do not seem to work anymore, for example:

  http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/
  http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/

thanks,
guillem


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