Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 2010-05-30, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx wrote: The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display lyrics or album covers are music players, and there is free music (available in our archive, no less) that they can usefully play. Console emulators like zsnes are in main, I think because there used to be at least one free ROM it can be used with (be it useful or not). Kind regards, Philipp Kern -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrni06sht.e9f.tr...@kelgar.0x539.de
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Philipp Kern tr...@philkern.de wrote: On 2010-05-30, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx wrote: The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display lyrics or album covers are music players, and there is free music (available in our archive, no less) that they can usefully play. Console emulators like zsnes are in main, I think because there used to be at least one free ROM it can be used with (be it useful or not). xmame-sdl is in contrib, though. I find it hard to draw the line between main and contrib unless there's non-free depends, it's all very subjective. Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimraphv1jxbh4zkycsdx5wxjopohcv-oy7cp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
Il giorno lun, 31/05/2010 alle 09.27 -0300, Fernando Lemos ha scritto: xmame-sdl is in contrib, though. I find it hard to draw the line between main and contrib unless there's non-free depends, it's all very subjective. xmame-sdl is in non-free, IIRC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1275309517.2404.13.ca...@zorn.fi.trl
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 05/31/2010 12:54 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On dim., 2010-05-30 at 21:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Clamz just moves some bits from Point A to Point B. I hope you don't use this as a definition of dfsg-free? Hardly. My (possibly flawed) thinking was originally raised here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg01136.html I just read http://www.debian.org/social_contract and it says nothing about the kind of *data* that programs can touch; only software, source code and the licensing of that source code is mentioned. Sean Finney seems to think the same way I do: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg01168.html better yet, tell me which item in the DFSG says that a program can't be Free unless all the purpose or data handled by the software is also Free. hint: there isn't one. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c03b082.3040...@cox.net
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 07:03:16AM +0200, sean finney wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display lyrics or album covers are music players, and there is free music (available in our archive, no less) that they can usefully play. so should amavis and spamassassin go to contrib because there aren't any documented DFSG-free virus and spam going through our mailservers? I'll bite. amavis and spamassassin handle emails, and there are in fact emails that are free. CVS commit emails for free software projects are a great example of this. better yet, tell me which item in the DFSG says that a program can't be Free unless all the purpose or data handled by the software is also Free. hint: there isn't one. in fact, DFSG #6 (No discrimination against fields of endeavor) could even be applied to the exact opposite argument. ftp-master has the final say in what goes into the archive, but this really sounds like an over-zealous misinterpretation of the DFSG. i'd hope that this were a miscommunication and/or not the position of the entire team, because otherwise it would take a GR to overturn their position. I'm not arguing the DFSG here. Packages in both main and contrib must comply with the DFSG, so any non-compliance with the DFSG makes the entire argument moot since the packages in question then must go to non-free. What I *am* arguing is Felix's response to Ben. What I said was basically clarifying what Ben said, with respect to Felix's response. My point was that Amarok in fact does not, under any interpretation, belong in contrib. It has useful extensions that involve non-free data, but it is functional without those. Therefore, Amarok belongs in main even under the strictest interpretations of the main/contrib divide. In retrospect, I probably could have used a better word than difference. What I meant is that the package in question (clamz) is not in the same category as amarok. There can be legitimate debate on the issue for one, and no reasonable disagreement on the other. -- brian m. carlson / brian with sandals: Houston, Texas, US +1 832 623 2791 | http://www.crustytoothpaste.net/~bmc | My opinion only OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:13:51PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 07:03:16AM +0200, sean finney wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display lyrics or album covers are music players, and there is free music (available in our archive, no less) that they can usefully play. so should amavis and spamassassin go to contrib because there aren't any documented DFSG-free virus and spam going through our mailservers? I'll bite. amavis and spamassassin handle emails, and there are in fact emails that are free. CVS commit emails for free software projects are a great example of this. What about http://creativecommons.org/tag/amazon ? Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100531175533.gd21...@nighthawk.chemicalconnection.dyndns.org
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 31.05.2010 19:55, Michael Banck wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:13:51PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: I'll bite. amavis and spamassassin handle emails, and there are in fact emails that are free. CVS commit emails for free software projects are a great example of this. What about http://creativecommons.org/tag/amazon ? Unfortunately that's a CC license that doesn't allow commercial use, so it's not dfsg-free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c03fa34.2040...@fobos.de
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:13:51PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 07:03:16AM +0200, sean finney wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display lyrics or album covers are music players, and there is free music (available in our archive, no less) that they can usefully play. so should amavis and spamassassin go to contrib because there aren't any documented DFSG-free virus and spam going through our mailservers? I'll bite. amavis and spamassassin handle emails, and there are in fact emails that are free. CVS commit emails for free software projects are a great example of this. What about http://creativecommons.org/tag/amazon ? Looking at the NIN album, it is CC-BY-NC-SA, which is not DFSG-free. /Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87typohr8w@mocca.josefsson.org
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 30.05.2010 23:40, brian m. carlson wrote: A very similar software is already in Debian main: Amarok contains two plugins that are able to download/stream music from Magnatune and MP3tunes; both are music stores. Amarok also plays music quite well without those. I never use Magnatune or MP3tunes. Also, there are free Ogg Vorbis files in our archive that can be played with Amarok. It is irrelevant that all *I* use it for is playing music that I've bought on CD; there is a significant amount of free material that can be used instead. If Amarok decided to use the source code of clamz to implement an Amazon plugin, Amarok could still be in main? That's IMHO somewhat inconsistent. Anyway the Debian Policy should be much clearer on the distinction between main and contrib. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c0425d0.1000...@fobos.de
clamz accepted in main [Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)]
In retrospect, I probably could have used a better word than difference. What I meant is that the package in question (clamz) is not in the same category as amarok. There can be legitimate debate on the issue for one, and no reasonable disagreement on the other. Dear all, for the record, clamz has been accepted this night in the main section of the Debian archive. Have a nice day, -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100531235248.gb15...@kunpuu.plessy.org
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
Philipp Kern wrote: Console emulators like zsnes are in main, I think because there used to be at least one free ROM it can be used with (be it useful or not). It would probably be more consistent with clamz having been accepted into main, to not require that emulators have a free rom in order to be in main. As it is, the line between clamz and a romless emulator is quite narrow and not well-defined. Emulators have entered main on the back of free roms that are barely usable and were probably slapped together in a day or so[1], and it's to some extent duplicitous to say this emulator is free because it lets you play this not very good game, which is also free -- when everyone using the free emulator will really be playing Sonic The Hedgehog. -- see shy jo [1] Meaning no disrespect to their authors; I couldn't do it! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
Felix Geyer dijo [Sat, May 29, 2010 at 09:14:56PM +0200]: clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's only useful to download non-free content. The purpose of clamz is to download MP3 files after buying them from Amazon. You can download MP3s with every browser though and Debian even has many MP3 decoders in main. I don't see why this is a problem. There is another package in main that is similar in this respect: youtube-dl. So what is the reason that clamz can't be in main? I know I am coming to this discussion after ftp-master agreed with this package being included in main - but still: For many years, we have had a dozen lastfm-related packages. And yes, some of them are meant to report (scribble) what we are listening to our LastFM profile - But at least, lastfmproxy, shell-fm and lastfm itself work purely with lastfm-generated music streams. And even if ocassionaly LastFM streamed a free song (I don't use their service since they became a for-pay service), it is not controllable/predictable, and the stream itself is nonfree. Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf • gw...@gwolf.org • (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100601030734.ga28...@gwolf.org
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 05/29/2010 09:47 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 19:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/29/2010 03:28 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's only useful to download non-free content. The purpose of clamz is to download MP3 files after buying them from Amazon. You can download MP3s with every browser though and Debian even has many MP3 decoders in main. I don't see why this is a problem. There is another package in main that is similar in this respect: youtube-dl. Some material on YouTube may be under a free licence, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/fosdemtalks (though this isn't explicitly stated there). So to get in main, an app isn't allowed to *touch* non-free data? I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it depends on some non-free library). Thanks for the clarification. However, I just read http://www.debian.org/social_contract and it says nothing about the kind of *data* that programs can touch; only software, source code and the licensing of that source code is mentioned. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c024662.9080...@cox.net
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 30 May 2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it depends on some non-free library). I see a potential problem with this policy: say I write a DFSG-compliant media player, and I want to add the ability to download songs from Amazon; I then depend on clamz. But clamz is in contrib, so my media player must go into contrib, even though it's free and depends only on free programs, and it's not useful only in combination with non-free data. I guess the example would work better with a library, but I think it's clear enough. Cheers, Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinal04_ndmclagosc8arhvredyejvbtoqnxa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
* Luca Niccoli lultimou...@gmail.com [2010-05-30 14:31]: I see a potential problem with this policy: say I write a DFSG-compliant media player, and I want to add the ability to download songs from Amazon; I then depend on clamz. But clamz is in contrib, so my media player must go into contrib, even though it's free and depends only on free programs, and it's not useful only in combination with non-free data. I guess the example would work better with a library, but I think it's clear enough. You could suggest clamz und detect runtime if it is present. That would allow your package to go in main and still use the funtionality of clamz in case it was installed. Yours Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100530145601.ge24...@anguilla.debian.or.at
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 30 May 2010 16:56, Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org wrote: You could suggest clamz und detect runtime if it is present. That would allow your package to go in main and still use the funtionality of clamz in case it was installed. Sure; what I wanted to point out (and I probably wasn't clear about it) is that the dependency relation is transitive, so the policy assumes that a package depending on one in contrib must be in contrib too. On the other hand, the property of being useful only with non-free data it's not carried along with a dependency relation (i.e. a package depending on an other that is useful only with non-free data doesn't have to be useful only with non-free data itself), so if this becomes a criterion to put a package in contrib that assumption is not grounded any more. One can surely devise some technical tricks to avoid dependencies, but it's really the semantics of Depends: and contrib that have become broken. Cheers, Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikhlrmbzc_vgrww-xqdt7c8xqss2in-2e9lk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 30.05.2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings wrote: I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it depends on some non-free library). Many applications use downloaded non-free content. For example applications that display weather information, lyrics or album covers. Should they all be moved to contrib? A very similar software is already in Debian main: Amarok contains two plugins that are able to download/stream music from Magnatune and MP3tunes; both are music stores. Also I don't think Amazon has a policy to not allow dfsg-free albums. So I fail to see how clamz depends on/is only useful with non-free content. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c02a9f0.7040...@fobos.de
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 08:09:52PM +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: On 30.05.2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings wrote: I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it depends on some non-free library). Many applications use downloaded non-free content. For example applications that display weather information, lyrics or album covers. Should they all be moved to contrib? The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display lyrics or album covers are music players, and there is free music (available in our archive, no less) that they can usefully play. A very similar software is already in Debian main: Amarok contains two plugins that are able to download/stream music from Magnatune and MP3tunes; both are music stores. Amarok also plays music quite well without those. I never use Magnatune or MP3tunes. Also, there are free Ogg Vorbis files in our archive that can be played with Amarok. It is irrelevant that all *I* use it for is playing music that I've bought on CD; there is a significant amount of free material that can be used instead. -- brian m. carlson / brian with sandals: Houston, Texas, US +1 832 623 2791 | http://www.crustytoothpaste.net/~bmc | My opinion only OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 05/30/2010 04:40 PM, brian m. carlson wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 08:09:52PM +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: On 30.05.2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings wrote: I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it depends on some non-free library). Many applications use downloaded non-free content. For example applications that display weather information, lyrics or album covers. Should they all be moved to contrib? The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. So what? Clamz just moves some bits from Point A to Point B. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c031c6e.8040...@cox.net
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display lyrics or album covers are music players, and there is free music (available in our archive, no less) that they can usefully play. so should amavis and spamassassin go to contrib because there aren't any documented DFSG-free virus and spam going through our mailservers? better yet, tell me which item in the DFSG says that a program can't be Free unless all the purpose or data handled by the software is also Free. hint: there isn't one. in fact, DFSG #6 (No discrimination against fields of endeavor) could even be applied to the exact opposite argument. ftp-master has the final say in what goes into the archive, but this really sounds like an over-zealous misinterpretation of the DFSG. i'd hope that this were a miscommunication and/or not the position of the entire team, because otherwise it would take a GR to overturn their position. sean signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On dim., 2010-05-30 at 21:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Clamz just moves some bits from Point A to Point B. I hope you don't use this as a definition of dfsg-free? Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's only useful to download non-free content. The purpose of clamz is to download MP3 files after buying them from Amazon. You can download MP3s with every browser though and Debian even has many MP3 decoders in main. I don't see why this is a problem. There is another package in main that is similar in this respect: youtube-dl. Some material on YouTube may be under a free licence, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/fosdemtalks (though this isn't explicitly stated there). So what is the reason that clamz can't be in main? There aren't any clearly DFSG-free tracks on the Amazon MP3 store. This may be under CC BY-SA but it's not explicitly stated which licence is used: http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Commons-Muse-Me/dp/B002FAQTSA/ http://www.thestrongestwhisper.com/cc.html These songs are creative commons protected; they are royalty-free songs. So I encourage musicians to play, record, and sell your performances of these songs, and send me mp3 files of them. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it makes it worse. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On 05/29/2010 03:28 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's only useful to download non-free content. The purpose of clamz is to download MP3 files after buying them from Amazon. You can download MP3s with every browser though and Debian even has many MP3 decoders in main. I don't see why this is a problem. There is another package in main that is similar in this respect: youtube-dl. Some material on YouTube may be under a free licence, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/fosdemtalks (though this isn't explicitly stated there). So to get in main, an app isn't allowed to *touch* non-free data? -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c01b244.4080...@cox.net
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 19:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/29/2010 03:28 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's only useful to download non-free content. The purpose of clamz is to download MP3 files after buying them from Amazon. You can download MP3s with every browser though and Debian even has many MP3 decoders in main. I don't see why this is a problem. There is another package in main that is similar in this respect: youtube-dl. Some material on YouTube may be under a free licence, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/fosdemtalks (though this isn't explicitly stated there). So to get in main, an app isn't allowed to *touch* non-free data? I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it depends on some non-free library). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it makes it worse. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it depends on some non-free library). Should I move libwww-topica-perl to contrib? Personally I think clamz belongs in main. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik3rkauqeck6ecl4bb2lgeidyq5yjrsxlq3e...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in
conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it
depends on some non-free library).
Should I move libwww-topica-perl to contrib?
Personally I think clamz belongs in main.
I'm also agree here. clamz is not depending on any non-free library to
build or work. We have not exact defination that data/content should
be always dfsg free to use with application in main. (disclaimer: IANL
clause apply.)
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