Re: Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2012-12-16 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Sun 16 Dec 2012 02:58:36 Petter Reinholdtsen escribió:
 [Ian Jackson]
 
 There is still nothing per se wrong with circular dependencies
 
 [Thorsten Glaser]
 
  Actually, I’m hitting an APT bug during dist-upgrades right now for
  packages with circular dependencies, usually two (perl with
  perl-modules, and g++-$version with its library), when they are
  indirectly depended on by a package with Important: yes set, as was
  recommended for metapackages which should not be considered by APT
  for automatic removal.
 
 A similar issue with libqt4-dbus is blocking upgrades of a desktop
 installation from squeeze to wheezy the last two weeks (as detected by
 jenkins.debian.net).  See URL: http://bugs.debian.org/655382  and
 related BTS reports for the details.
 
 I really hope we can get rid of the circular package dependencies. :)

I've has just wrote that in the bug report, but I think without CCing here.

In the case of libqt4-dbus, the fix is ready to be uploaded and ACKed by the 
RT, but we are waiting for a fix of a FTBFS of the previous upload.

Kinds regards, Lisandro.

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Re: Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2012-12-15 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Ian Jackson]
There is still nothing per se wrong with circular dependencies

[Thorsten Glaser]
 Actually, I’m hitting an APT bug during dist-upgrades right now for
 packages with circular dependencies, usually two (perl with
 perl-modules, and g++-$version with its library), when they are
 indirectly depended on by a package with Important: yes set, as was
 recommended for metapackages which should not be considered by APT
 for automatic removal.

A similar issue with libqt4-dbus is blocking upgrades of a desktop
installation from squeeze to wheezy the last two weeks (as detected by
jenkins.debian.net).  See URL: http://bugs.debian.org/655382  and
related BTS reports for the details.

I really hope we can get rid of the circular package dependencies. :)

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Re: Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2012-09-10 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson dixit:

There is still nothing per se wrong with circular dependencies

Actually, I’m hitting an APT bug during dist-upgrades right now
for packages with circular dependencies, usually two (perl with
perl-modules, and g++-$version with its library), when they are
indirectly depended on by a package with Important: yes set, as
was recommended for metapackages which should not be considered
by APT for automatic removal.

My upgrade documentation for our company wiki has sections like:

In case of problems, solve iteratively:
* E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'perl'. Please see man 5 
apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
* E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'perl-modules'. Please see 
man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
apt-get --purge install perl -o APT::Immediate-Configure=no
apt-get --purge dist-upgrade

* E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'g++-4.4'. Please see man 5 
apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
apt-get --purge install build-essential -o APT::Immediate-Configure=no
apt-get --purge dist-upgrade

And Policy says:
[…]
 breaking point is arbitrary.  Packages should therefore avoid circular
 dependencies where possible, particularly if they have ostinst'
 scripts.
[…]

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Re: Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2012-09-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Allombert writes (Status of circular dependencies in Sid):
 Today circular dependencies in unstable reached an all-time low, with
 only 36 circular dependencies.

There is still nothing per se wrong with circular dependencies and
there are situations where a circular dependency is the right answer.

Ian.


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Re: Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2012-09-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 06 septembre 2012 à 13:10 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit : 
 There is still nothing per se wrong with circular dependencies and
 there are situations where a circular dependency is the right answer.

I have yet to see one such situation.

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Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2012-09-03 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello Debian developers,

Today circular dependencies in unstable reached an all-time low, with
only 36 circular dependencies.

Here the lists of circular dependencies followed by the list of packages listed
by maintainers.

This list is also available at
http://debian.semistable.com/unstable_developers.txt
(updated daily, courtesy of Robert Lemmen).

A list of dependencies including dependency graphs is available at
http://debian.semistable.com/debgraph.out.html

The list of bug I reported so far is there:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=circular-deps;users=ballo...@debian.org

Cheers,
Bill

* acheck acheck-rules
* bochs bochs-wx
* ca-certificates-java openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
* dmsetup libdevmapper1.02.1
* g++-4.4 libstdc++6-4.4-dev
* g++-4.6 libstdc++6-4.6-dev
* g++-4.7 libstdc++6-4.7-dev
* gamin libgamin0
* gcj-4.6-jdk libgcj12-dev
* gcj-4.7-jdk libgcj13-dev
* gdc-4.4 libphobos-4.4-dev
* gdc-4.6 libphobos2-4.6-dev
* ghostscript gs-cjk-resource libgs9
* gnuift gnuift-perl
* klogd sysklogd
* libc6 libgcc1 multiarch-support (1 pre-depends)
* libgeronimo-jpa-2.0-spec-java libgeronimo-osgi-support-java 
libosgi-compendium-java
* liblwp-protocol-https-perl libwww-perl
* libmaven-scm-java libmaven2-core-java libwagon-java
* libmono-corlib4.0-cil libmono-security4.0-cil 
libmono-system-configuration4.0-cil libmono-system-security4.0-cil 
libmono-system-xml4.0-cil libmono-system4.0-cil mono-4.0-gac mono-gac 
mono-runtime
* libmono-posix2.0-cil libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-system2.0-cil
* libmono-system-data-linq2.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-wcf3.0-cil 
libmono2.0-cil
* libmono-system-web-services4.0-cil libmono-system-web4.0-cil 
libmono-web4.0-cil
* libntrack0 ntrack-module-libnl-0 ntrack-module-rtnetlink-0
* libqt4-dbus qdbus
* libswitch-perl perl perl-modules
* libverto-glib1 libverto-libev1 libverto1
* monodoc-browser monodoc-http monodoc-manual
* odbcinst odbcinst1debian2
* openjdk-7-jre-headless openjdk-7-jre-lib
* pcb-common pcb-gtk pcb-lesstif
* python-imaging python-imaging-tk
* strongswan-ikev1 strongswan-ikev2 strongswan-nm strongswan-starter
* tasksel tasksel-data
* uqm uqm-content
* xemacs21 xemacs21-bin xemacs21-mule xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn xemacs21-nomule 
xemacs21-support

List by maintainers:

Alexander Sack a...@debian.org
libntrack0
ntrack-module-libnl-0
ntrack-module-rtnetlink-0

Debian Electronics Team pkg-electronics-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
pcb-common
pcb-gtk
pcb-lesstif

Debian GCC Maintainers debian-...@lists.debian.org
g++-4.4
g++-4.6
g++-4.7
gcj-4.6-jdk
gcj-4.7-jdk
gdc-4.4
gdc-4.6
libgcc1
libgcj12-dev
libgcj13-dev
libphobos-4.4-dev
libphobos2-4.6-dev
libstdc++6-4.4-dev
libstdc++6-4.6-dev
libstdc++6-4.7-dev

Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
tasksel
tasksel-data

Debian Java Maintainers pkg-java-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
ca-certificates-java
libgeronimo-jpa-2.0-spec-java
libgeronimo-osgi-support-java
libmaven-scm-java
libmaven2-core-java
libosgi-compendium-java
libwagon-java

Debian LVM Team pkg-lvm-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
dmsetup
libdevmapper1.02.1

Debian Mono Group pkg-mono-gr...@lists.alioth.debian.org
libmono-corlib4.0-cil
libmono-posix2.0-cil
libmono-security2.0-cil
libmono-security4.0-cil
libmono-system-configuration4.0-cil
libmono-system-data-linq2.0-cil
libmono-system-security4.0-cil
libmono-system-web-services4.0-cil
libmono-system-web2.0-cil
libmono-system-web4.0-cil
libmono-system-xml4.0-cil
libmono-system2.0-cil
libmono-system4.0-cil
libmono-wcf3.0-cil
libmono-web4.0-cil
libmono2.0-cil
mono-4.0-gac
mono-gac
mono-runtime
monodoc-browser
monodoc-http
monodoc-manual

Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
liblwp-protocol-https-perl
libswitch-perl
libwww-perl

Debian Printing Team debian-print...@lists.debian.org
ghostscript
libgs9

Debian QA Group packa...@qa.debian.org
bochs
bochs-wx
gnuift
gnuift-perl

Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
libqt4-dbus
qdbus

Dmitry E. Oboukhov un...@debian.org
uqm
uqm-content

GNU Libc Maintainers debian-gl...@lists.debian.org
libc6
multiarch-support

Kenshi Muto km...@debian.org
gs-cjk-resource

Martin Schulze j...@debian.org
klogd
sysklogd

Matthias Klose d...@debian.org
python-imaging
python-imaging-tk

Michael Banck mba...@debian.org
gamin
libgamin0

Nicolas Bertolissio ber...@debian.org
acheck

Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2007-06-14 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello Debian developers,

Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by
maintainers.

This list is also available at
http://debian.semistable.com/unstable_developers.txt
(updated daily, courtesy of Robert Lemmen).

A list of dependencies including dependency graphs is available at
http://debian.semistable.com/debgraph.out.html

The list of bug I reported so far is there:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=circular-deps;[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Cheers,
Bill.

Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]
amarok
amarok-engines
amarok-xine

Alastair McKinstry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
console-common

Andrew Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phpgroupware
phpgroupware-admin
phpgroupware-phpgwapi
phpgroupware-preferences
phpgroupware-setup

Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
console-terminus

Bernd Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bootcd
bootcd-hppa
bootcd-i386
bootcd-ia64

Brendan O'Dea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl
perl-modules

Carlo Contavalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wipl-client-exec
wipl-client-standard
wipl-daemon

Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
luola
luola-data
luola-levels

Christoph Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libyada-mysql4
libyada-pgsql4
libyada-sqlite3-4
libyada4

Console utilities maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
console-setup
kbd

Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
heroes-common
heroes-ggi
heroes-sdl
lbreakout2
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Dave Beckett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libcairo2

David Coe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iamerican
ispell

Debconf Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debconf
debconf-english
debconf-i18n

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abuse
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