Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:18:57PM +0100, Mark A. Morris wrote: > HI, > I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). > We are currently releasing our first computer game - Uplink. Uplink is > a puzzle / adventure game set on the internet of 2010. We have both > windows and Linux versions available, and we are hoping to work with > various Linux distributions in a mutually beneficial relationship. We > are asking you to include a copy of the Uplink demo with your Linux > distribution, we get the benefit of publicity and your users get the > benefit of playing a high-quality Linux game. We have already had > success with Mandrake, and now we are hoping you will consider our > offer. > > If you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to > contact me. Debian generally does not do this sort of thing for commercial software. What a developer can do if he is inclined to do so is build an installer package for the archive. Personally I'm not terribly fond of these installers and would much rather have Introversion host an aptable archive containing the latest patches to Uplink. It's generally not difficult to set up such a thing and if you are interested in doing it I'd be happy to help with setting it up - it's really not difficult at all. I'm probably not an ideal person for building the packages as I am currently on a modem (and miss my broadband greatly!) and don't happen to have a copy of Uplink yet. Those damned living expenses getting in the way of the really important things like games, you understand. =) -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Certified free software nut you should be afraid to use KDE because RMS might come to your house and cleave your monitor with an axe or something :) pgpHYeIxH71oe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 13:40, Rob Bradford wrote: > On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 16:32, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > I'll go ahead an e-mail some of the game companies, if you or anyone > > else really wants to help, I can get debiangames.org registered and find > > a decent host. ^,^ > > We can host this on the debianplanet.org machine, which has surplus > bandwidth and cpu cycles =) Well, sweet. Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said he has installer packages for Uplink. When I get home today (at work now) I'll find the e-mail address for various Linux game companies, and see what we can come up with. Now just need someone with passable site design skills to build a site (because mine would be just plain text, which isn't very fitting for a gaming site). Maybe we can have articles for Debian specific gaming issues and so on, as well. ^,^ > > Cheers > -- > Rob 'robster' Bradford > http://robster.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 16:32, Sean Middleditch wrote: > I'll go ahead an e-mail some of the game companies, if you or anyone > else really wants to help, I can get debiangames.org registered and find > a decent host. ^,^ We can host this on the debianplanet.org machine, which has surplus bandwidth and cpu cycles =) Cheers -- Rob 'robster' Bradford http://robster.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Uplink release with Debian
Mark, I've had a third party Uplink Debian package available - http://www.sacredchao.net/software/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/games/uplink_2_i386.deb. The package itself is just an installer, but it can install the demo, or off the Uplink CD, and patch an installed copy. I emailed Chris Delay about it a while ago, and posted it to the forums, but it never got linked off the download page or "Other Files" section. No matter what you do, Debian isn't going to include Uplink, because it's not DFSG-free software ("open source"). On the other hand, Cc:ing -devel in case one of the official developers wants to hammer my work into something suitable for contrib (a non-official part of Debian that many users of Debian get packages from). -- - Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.sacredchao.net "What I did was justified because I had a policy of my own... It's okay to be different, to not conform to society." -- Chen Kenichi, Iron Chef Chinese signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 10:18, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:10, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > > Maybe you could run such a site and use it to promote your AwesomePlay > > > company? I doubt that your company would be seen as a competitor of > > > Introvision and they would probably be happy to work with you. Maybe > > > they'd even pay you to produce the Debian packages of their software? > > > > Heh. If only I was that talented. I'll look into it, tho. I had > > started Open Games, and sort of lost interest... maybe I could start > > that back up again. ^,^ (With a site design that doesn't induce > > vomitting, like the current one.) > > It's not that difficult to do. Also you could sub-contract parts of the work > out to some of the people here if you can't do it all. I'd consider doing > some of the work. ^,^ Well, I'm right now looking over my current resources (i.e. time, web space, experience, etc.) and I think the only problem I'd really have is that I have the web design talents of a diseased monkey on a stick. (As you can see from looking at any of the sites I've worked on all by myself - the only things I've done that are good my best friend, who is an awesome artist, helped with.) However, starting a site for this with just one game isn't quite worth the effort, and Loki is out of it, so I'd need to find other game companies to work with (already added id to the list, and going to add bioware/infogrames). I suppose with some help, slapping together a debiangames.org, including an apt-gettable list of game demoes, gaming news regarding packages in Debian, forums, etc. wouldn't be bad. It's just getting the companies to let us package the games, and building the site content (I hate the way every 4 out of 5 oss/linux sites are just PHPNuke or one of its cousins - it gets very old very quickly) I'll go ahead an e-mail some of the game companies, if you or anyone else really wants to help, I can get debiangames.org registered and find a decent host. ^,^ > > -- > If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines > of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do > whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by > posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:10, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > Maybe you could run such a site and use it to promote your AwesomePlay > > company? I doubt that your company would be seen as a competitor of > > Introvision and they would probably be happy to work with you. Maybe > > they'd even pay you to produce the Debian packages of their software? > > Heh. If only I was that talented. I'll look into it, tho. I had > started Open Games, and sort of lost interest... maybe I could start > that back up again. ^,^ (With a site design that doesn't induce > vomitting, like the current one.) It's not that difficult to do. Also you could sub-contract parts of the work out to some of the people here if you can't do it all. I'd consider doing some of the work. -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 09:50, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:01, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > > > I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). > > > > We are currently releasing our first computer game - Uplink. Uplink is > > > > > > Let us know when you've published the source to the Demo and we'll > > > consider it. > > > > There's always Contrib. > > Which can't be included on CDs or DVDs and generally doesn't get seen much. Ah, I didn't know that. Sorry. ^,^ (I should bother looking thru what my CD's actually have on them...) > > > I think having game demos in non-free/contrib of Debian would be > > awesome. Yes, you're helping the companies make money, but you're also > > making Debian a little more attractive to the average consumer. > > Why not set up a separate site for Debian packages of game demos? There's > currently a site with an aptable list of DIVX/CSS/etc, there's a site with > KDE betas, why not a site with game demos? That's an idea. Doesn't Ximian provide this for games with RedCarpet (They do with RedHat, I know that)? > > Maybe you could run such a site and use it to promote your AwesomePlay > company? I doubt that your company would be seen as a competitor of > Introvision and they would probably be happy to work with you. Maybe they'd > even pay you to produce the Debian packages of their software? Heh. If only I was that talented. I'll look into it, tho. I had started Open Games, and sort of lost interest... maybe I could start that back up again. ^,^ (With a site design that doesn't induce vomitting, like the current one.) > > -- > If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines > of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do > whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by > posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:01, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > > I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). > > > We are currently releasing our first computer game - Uplink. Uplink is > > > > Let us know when you've published the source to the Demo and we'll > > consider it. > > There's always Contrib. Which can't be included on CDs or DVDs and generally doesn't get seen much. > I think having game demos in non-free/contrib of Debian would be > awesome. Yes, you're helping the companies make money, but you're also > making Debian a little more attractive to the average consumer. Why not set up a separate site for Debian packages of game demos? There's currently a site with an aptable list of DIVX/CSS/etc, there's a site with KDE betas, why not a site with game demos? Maybe you could run such a site and use it to promote your AwesomePlay company? I doubt that your company would be seen as a competitor of Introvision and they would probably be happy to work with you. Maybe they'd even pay you to produce the Debian packages of their software? -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 08:30, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 15:18, Mark A. Morris wrote: > > I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). > > We are currently releasing our first computer game - Uplink. Uplink is > > a puzzle / adventure game set on the internet of 2010. We have both > > windows and Linux versions available, and we are hoping to work with > > various Linux distributions in a mutually beneficial relationship. We > > are asking you to include a copy of the Uplink demo with your Linux > > distribution, we get the benefit of publicity and your users get the > > benefit of playing a high-quality Linux game. We have already had > > success with Mandrake, and now we are hoping you will consider our > > offer. > > > > If you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to > > contact me. > > Let us know when you've published the source to the Demo and we'll consider > it. There's always Contrib. I think having game demos in non-free/contrib of Debian would be awesome. Yes, you're helping the companies make money, but you're also making Debian a little more attractive to the average consumer. Without any commercial interest in Linux/BSD/etc., none of them would have gotten quite as far as they have (those companies *have* sunk lots of money and manpower into our efforts). Games are one of the things that push consumer hard-ware and driver developments to the max. ^,^ > > -- > If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines > of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do > whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by > posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uplink release with Debian
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 15:18, Mark A. Morris wrote: > I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). > We are currently releasing our first computer game - Uplink. Uplink is > a puzzle / adventure game set on the internet of 2010. We have both > windows and Linux versions available, and we are hoping to work with > various Linux distributions in a mutually beneficial relationship. We > are asking you to include a copy of the Uplink demo with your Linux > distribution, we get the benefit of publicity and your users get the > benefit of playing a high-quality Linux game. We have already had > success with Mandrake, and now we are hoping you will consider our > offer. > > If you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to > contact me. Let us know when you've published the source to the Demo and we'll consider it. -- If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uplink release with Debian
HI, I represent Introversion Software (www.introversion.co.uk). We are currently releasing our first computer game – Uplink. Uplink is a puzzle / adventure game set on the internet of 2010. We have both windows and Linux versions available, and we are hoping to work with various Linux distributions in a mutually beneficial relationship. We are asking you to include a copy of the Uplink demo with your Linux distribution, we get the benefit of publicity and your users get the benefit of playing a high-quality Linux game. We have already had success with Mandrake, and now we are hoping you will consider our offer. If you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to contact me. Mark Morris Director Tel: 0207 419 2298 / 07775 654 527 Fax: 0207 813 2862 === Introversion Software PO Box 3210, Glastonbury, Somerset, BA6 8WF BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Morris;Mark;A. FN:Mark A. Morris (Business Fax) ORG:Introversion Software TITLE:Director TEL;WORK;VOICE:0207 7149 2298 TEL;HOME;VOICE:0207 7149 2298 TEL;CELL;VOICE:07775 654 527 TEL;WORK;FAX:0207 7813 2862 ADR;WORK:;;4 Railey Mews,;London,;;NW5 2PA;United Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:4 Railey Mews,=0D=0ALondon, NW5 2PA=0D=0AUnited Kingdom URL;WORK:http://www.introversion.co.uk KEY;X509;ENCODING=BASE64: MIIEdDCCA92gAwIBAgIPM49JCO8nJIJoR5KRJh3tMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHMMRcwFQYD VQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UECxMWVmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29yazFG MEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9yZXBvc2l0b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIEJ5IFJl Zi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODFIMEYGA1UEAxM/VmVyaVNpZ24gQ2xhc3MgMSBDQSBJbmRpdmlk dWFsIFN1YnNjcmliZXItUGVyc29uYSBOb3QgVmFsaWRhdGVkMB4XDTAyMDEyMzAwMDAwMFoX DTAzMDEyMzIzNTk1OVowggEZMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UECxMW VmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29yazFGMEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9yZXBv c2l0b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIGJ5IFJlZi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODEeMBwGA1UECxMVUGVy c29uYSBOb3QgVmFsaWRhdGVkMTQwMgYDVQQLEytEaWdpdGFsIElEIENsYXNzIDEgLSBNaWNy b3NvZnQgRnVsbCBTZXJ2aWNlMRcwFQYDVQQDFA5NYXJrIEEuIE1vcnJpczEmMCQGCSqGSIb3 DQEJARYXbWFya0BpbnRyb3ZlcnNpb24uY28udWswgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJ AoGBAL+u737mcfLFwNjdEAKSc0Yyo/I4Akmvh1VAn9LIfkqrbmvSm/Ds2MH+z9o16vcBjQsF AzIQJRVA6ofAQ84QYEAbXuj2qTsVsrxwnKQF+D5WpdoscWevyng/SkFE2ElgM9/mQDuhipTp gA5dBRSNJVk7hdXj6VLUsn1kdgMrxza3AgMBAAGjggEGMIIBAjAJBgNVHRMEAjAAMIGsBgNV HSAEgaQwgaEwgZ4GC2CGSAGG+EUBBwEBMIGOMCgGCCsGAQUFBwIBFhxodHRwczovL3d3dy52 ZXJpc2lnbi5jb20vQ1BTMGIGCCsGAQUFBwICMFYwFRYOVmVyaVNpZ24sIEluYy4wAwIBARo9 VmVyaVNpZ24ncyBDUFMgaW5jb3JwLiBieSByZWZlcmVuY2UgbGlhYi4gbHRkLiAoYyk5NyBW ZXJpU2lnbjARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCB4AwMwYDVR0fBCwwKjAooCagJIYiaHR0cDovL2Ny bC52ZXJpc2lnbi5jb20vY2xhc3MxLmNybDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAoPqHcAVxoBGuT wxD89GYJwNkWEG3Z4MmZcqBRPYtmAPHBptBP2QaC0zQRbdA46uCAhsrmO7cp2CisgxZ0fYE8 L5lNIc+rCtEpwVehTwXuG94XxiJsUhcfcZoEzZmcamhxftTq8fE5WMsxs4MdpUi+rpq6S+lt YFDNpvX28dKwHP== EMAIL;PREF;FAX:Mark A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7813 2862 REV:20020321T210955Z END:VCARD smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature