Re: Orphaning some packages...

2011-07-08 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 23:51 07/07/11, Holger Levsen wrote:

Hi Holger,

 Hi Xavier,
 
 On Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2011, Xavier Oswald wrote:
  Im thus about to orphan some of my packages I no longer have any interest,
  and willl ask from being removed from some Uploaders fields.
 [...]
  - moodle-debian-edu-theme
 
 Actually I wonder whether this package should go, it has not been used much 
 in 
 Debian Edu TTBOMK, cc:ing the list for more input.

This package is working since years and doesn't need any update.
Maybe it could be included as a moodle skin upstream..
Or maitained by the moodle maintainers. (CCing them)

  Take this announce as a come back with new motivation :)
  Im incrementaly managing my time for getting back to a normal debian
  activity.
 
 \o/ Enjoy your new focus!
Thanks.

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Re: svn statistics

2010-10-30 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 00:45 Sun 31 Oct , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Samstag, 30. Oktober 2010, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
  following Gregor Herrmanns statistics of the svn usage of the perl
  packaging group, I used his script to generate stats about Debian Edu:
 
  Interesting.
 
  Do you have a reference to those scripts you are referring to?
 
 alioth:~holger/bin and alioth:~gregoa/bin
 
  Perhaps these stats by Xavier is interesting too (especially when he
  finishes refining and makes available his scripts as he mentioned at the
  end of the thread is intended within a month):
  http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20101021150702.ga10...@master
 
 Gregor gave me that pointer too, but I didnt consider those stats to be so 
 interesting for us. (We have way less packages, etc.) 


Before getting in, Im trying to think in flexible way so that my work could be
used by lot of debian packaging team to gather statistics. Ill let you know when
I have something working so you can try it with debian-edu.

One of the point I wanted to raise in the perl team is to make some statistics
and evolution of perl pacjages that are maintained under the perl compared to
packages that are not. This is not relevant here.

But I think some bugs and lintian statistics could maybe be nice for the
debian-edu team.

Last but not the least, the plan is to automate this to gather evolution
statistics with monthly snapshot of the team and provide graphs.

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Re: More on the future LDAP admin gui in Debian Edu

2010-10-27 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 12:52 Mon 25 Oct , Jürgen Leibner wrote:
 
 The french team has done their own add-on-cd in 2006. Their packages are 
 until now in the skolelinux svn. Have you tried to come in to the svn 
 with your packages?
 
 CipUX was added to the package lists for being on the CD/DVD by Xavier 
 Oswald in 2006 as the debian-edu changelog tells:
 ---8
   [ Xavier Oswald ]
   * main-server task:
 - Depend on moodle-debian-edu-theme, moodle-cipux, cipux-all
 - Recommend moodle-courses-fr, debian-edu-fr-all, 
 debian-edu-fr-skels.
   These packages contain French data so they are reduce to 
 recommend.
 - Depend on cipux-common, cipux-cibot, cipux-cat-webmin, cipux-rpc,
   cipux-profile. These packages come from the cipux repository.
 ---8
 
 Why not try to come in again?
 As you can see how GOsa² came in, why didn't you try to do it the same 
 way?

Since Im quoted I think I should reply.

I was planning to come in again after a future IRL meeting which is planned to
be soon with Christian. We want to work ASAP on preseeding cipux and do
integration tests with debian-edu.

I will come back to the list when I have something working, asking for tests and
comments.

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Re: More on the future LDAP admin gui in Debian Edu

2010-09-28 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 18:59 Mon 27 Sep , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 The Cipux option is still unknown.  I am not aware of anyone having
 spent any time to get it working out of the box with Debian
 Edu/Squeeze

It's on my Todo list to work on this with Christian. I don't know when it will
be done but it's one of our next goals.

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Re: Projets dans l'académ ie de Versailles

2010-09-18 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 13:32 Sat 18 Sep , Louis-Maurice De Sousa wrote:
 Bonjour à toutes et tous,

Hi,

Im switching in english and put debian-edu in cc.

 je me présente, je m'appelle Louis-Maurice De Sousa, je suis
 enseignant, déchargé de cours pour de la formation TICE et de
 l'accompagnement aux établissements du second degré du bassin de
 Mantes-la-Jolie, dans leurs projets TICE.
  http://www.tice.ac-versailles.fr/-Mediapoles-.html
 
 Par ailleurs, depuis trois ans maintenant, je pilote un groupe qui
 tente de promouvoir les logiciels libres dans l'éducation.
  http://www.tice.ac-versailles.fr/logicielslibres/

In short, Louis-Maurice is a teacher and working around the TICE project
(Communication and information technologies for educational purpose)

Here is the map of the region around Paris-France where he is trying to promote
free software. http://www.tice.ac-versailles.fr/-Mediapoles-.html

Since 3 months, he is coordinating a group of people to promote free software in
education. http://www.tice.ac-versailles.fr/logicielslibres/

 Aujourd'hui, je crois que la situation est suffisamment mûre pour
 passer à un niveau supérieur.
 Après plusieurs échanges avec Stefano Zacchiroli et Xavier Oswald,
 je m'adresse à vous pour voir dans quelle mesure nous pourrions
 collaborer pour commencer à débarrasser les établissements de
 l'académie de Versailles de Windows et Apple. :-)

He has exchange some information with our DPL Stefano and me to see how we can
work together.

The raised points were:
 - cooperation with debian france.
 - cooperation with debian-edu.

It's in a very early state and we are collecting information.

 Plusieurs projets :
 - sur l'invitation de Stefano, j'interviendrai lors de la mini
 DebConf' les 30-31 octobre prochain à Paris. Nous aurons ainsi
 l'occasion de nous rencontrer.

Louis-Maurice will do a presentation of this project in the next debian
mini-debconf in Paris. http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Miniconf-Paris/2010

 - nous organiserons une BSP les 4-5 décembre prochain. Un site sera
 mis en place d'ici la fin du mois, pour annoncer cette
 manifestation, et permettre aux enseignants de l'académie de
 s'inscrire. J'aurais besoin de quelques interlocuteurs chez Debian,
 pour l'organisation côté Debian. Si c'est un succès, j'envisage une
 autre BSP autour du projet Debian-Édu. Il manque un certain nombre
 de fonctionnalités pour un usage massif dans l'académie en
 remplacement de SambaÉdu qui présente l'inconvénient d'être conçu
 pour des clients Windows.
  http://wwdeb.crdp.ac-caen.fr/mediase3/index.php/Accueil

The 4th and 5th December, he is planing to organize a BSP. The point here is to
welcome teachers to meet debian developers. Teachers will be available to help
fixing translations and testing softwares. He will give us more information
soon.

In case of a success, he is planning to organize a Debian-Edu BSP.

 - enfin, j'ai obtenu la possibilité d'acheter du développement de
 logiciel libre. Le conseil Général des Yvelines pourrait aussi
 participer à ce financement. Je cherche donc des partenaires pour
 quatre projets dans un premier temps :
   * faire évoluer le logiciel libre pour TNI whyteboard
 (https://launchpad.net/whyteboard)
   * faire évoluer le logiciel libre iTalc (http://italc.sourceforge.net/)
 Le CG 78 serait particulièrement intéressé par ce projet.
   * apporter des fonctionnalités à un outil en ligne de cartes
 heuristiques.
   * faire évoluer un logiciel de synchronisation de clés USB
 (http://nouveaux-usages-outils.ac-versailles.fr/spip.php?article13 )
 qui devra faire partie de la malette de balado-diffusion sur
 laquelle nous travaillons. Mallette sous OS libre, à priori Squeeze.
 
 Nous n'aurons pas forcément de l'argent pour tout, mais il faut bien
 commencer. :-)

Another point here is that Louis-Maurice has the possibility to have money to
pay free software development, see the links of the targeted software.



This is the first mail on the debian-edu list about this project.

I welcome projects members to comment and ask questions since I think there
could be lot ;) Louis-Maurice is in cc.

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Re: Drop usplash in Squeeze? Move to plymouth?

2010-06-10 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 20:47 Wed 19 May , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Should we drop usplash from our package lists in Squeeze?  It is as
 far as I can see dead upstream, as Ubuntu moved to plymouth as their
 boot progress bar, to get flicker free boot.
 
 It is also the cause of many problems with the video setup on several
 hardware models, and it would be nice to avoid such problems in
 Squeeze.
 
 I guess we should investigate plymouth, but I doubt I will find time
 to do it any time soon.

plymouth seems a good choice.

Some times is needed to do a debian-edu theme, I got a look about how it works
and it is not that simple...

There is 4 or 5 existing themes where you can directly replace the default logo
by the debian-edu logo.

I have done a package for my goals and setted it up for the custom debian Im
working on for my company.


If you want to give a try:
==

0. Install v86d package.

1. /etc/default/grub
   Replace GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=...
by GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash nomodeset 
video=uvesafb:mode_option=1280x1024-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap
   Replace #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
by GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024
   
   Notice that grub2 supports different resolutions so you can put there a list
   and grub2 will choose the first working one. (debian-edu grub background
   image should be updated)

2. /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
   Add a line containing: uvesafb mode_option=1280x1024-24 mtrr=3 scroll=ywrap

3. echo FRAMEBUFFER=y | sudo tee /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash

4. sudo update-grub2
   sudo update-initramfs -u

Now you have the default setted theme.

sudo /usr/sbin/plymouth-set-default-theme --list (list available themes)
sudo /usr/sbin/plymouth-set-default-theme THEME  (change theme)
sudo update-initramfs -u (apply to initramfs)
===

Plymouth is currently in sid but build fine under squeeze.
So I have rebuilt it on squeeze with a small modification in debian/local by
giving another logo (default is debian-logo.png.uue), update debian/rules for
decode my new logo and update debian/local/plymouth.hook to do the copy of this
new logo.

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Re: Qsynth 0.3.5

2010-05-08 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 18:11 Sat 08 May , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Xavier Oswald]
  I just have uploaded the latest qsynth version to debian sid.
  
  It now recommends fluid-soundfont-gm to have at least one sound font
  file installed. And it opens /usr/share/sounds/sf2 as the default
  soundfont directory.
  
  Feel free to tell me if everything works as expected.
 
 Great. :) I lack the set setup where I am at the moment, so I can test
 it this week.  Hope to test it next week. :)
 
 Will qsynth now autoselect a sound found if none is configured and
 there is a sound font present in /usr/share/sounds/sf2/, to allow
 qsynth to work out of the box without any configuration in Debian Edu?

No. That's the latest point I didn't add. 
Im wondering if this is a good idea to do such an automatic selection.

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Re: Qsynth 0.3.5

2010-05-08 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 20:20 Sat 08 May , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Xavier Oswald]
  No. That's the latest point I didn't add.  Im wondering if this is a
  good idea to do such an automatic selection.
 
 Why?
 
 I assume it only will be enabled when no soundfound is already
 enabled, and thus will only help first time users to get started. :)

Right. Well yes, I was to tired today to think clearly ;)

So what we can do is that I wait feedback of the current uploaded qsynth.
And do the needed hack to have this feature.

Im wondering if there are good C++/Qt developers here on the list, if yes,
someone could review my patch since Im not that friendly with them ? ;)

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Re: Opera on desktop for all users

2010-03-02 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 10:42 Tue 02 Mar , Ole-Anders Andreassen wrote:
 How do I put an icon to start Opera on all the users desktop?

 Iceweasel is making a lot of problems..

You could have a look to update-alternatives and set x-www-browser to the web
browser you want.

cf. man update-alternatives

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java jfractionlab debian package

2008-09-09 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

Im asking here if someone is interested in packaging jfractionlab[1] for debian.

Im to busy right now to take another package and maintain it in a good way.

Since it is related to education and as it is commonly used with debian-edu, it
would be nice if someone could do the debian package.

It could be maintain within the debian-edu or the debian-java team.

If nobody is interested, I will put it in my TODO list and do the package ASAP
but it will take some time...

Im not opening an ITP neither a RFP but will do any of those if nobody is
interested.

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/jfractionlab

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Re: Kiosktool status

2008-06-23 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 12:14 Thu 05 Jun , Xavier Oswald wrote:
 Hi,
 
 What is the status of the work on kiosktool, I can see that it is still
 orphaned..
 
 Im interested in maintaining it maybe with Holger or we can maintain it in the
 debian-edu team, as you want.
 
 Im already maintaining the kiosktool backport as you can see on my QA page.

Hi,

I have adopted kiosktool, a new version is available in unstable.
http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kiosktool.html

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Kiosktool status

2008-06-04 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

What is the status of the work on kiosktool, I can see that it is still
orphaned..

Im interested in maintaining it maybe with Holger or we can maintain it in the
debian-edu team, as you want.

Im already maintaining the kiosktool backport as you can see on my QA page.

Holger, do you have informations ?

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Re: Kiosktool status

2008-06-04 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 14:20 Wed 04 Jun , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Xavier,
 
 On Thursday 05 June 2008 12:14, Xavier Oswald wrote:
  What is the status of the work on kiosktool, I can see that it is still
  orphaned..
 
 Last I know you wanted to adopt it, but it seems you havent done so :)

I don't have do it since you told me that he would be discussed in extremadura
or something like that and thus I was waiting for news ;)

 My NMU to sid by now has migrated to lenny, and in stable-proposed-updates 
 waits the same fixed version (with a different version number) to be released 
 with etch r4.
 
  Im interested in maintaining it maybe with Holger or we can maintain it in
  the debian-edu team, as you want.
 
 I'm not really interested to maintain it, someone else was, but I forgot who.
 
 I'd be happy if it would be team maintained in the Debian Edu repository.

Ok, then I will commit it in the debian-edu svn after my uni exam in about 7-8
days.

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Re: Rencontre Franco-Allemande pour CipUX

2007-06-14 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 20:46 Thu 14 Jun , Jean-Charles Siegel wrote:
 Bonjour à tous,
 
 Thierry m'a demandé d'organiser une rencontre franco-allemande pour le
 développement de CipUX et cipuxPHP. Les discussions à ce sujet ont un peu
 trainé mais voilà ce qui en :
 
 Christian nous propose de rencontre à Berlin l'équipe de CipUX. Pour des
 raisons pratiques, cette rencontre aure lieu un week end, et Christian est
 libre chaque week end à partir du vendredi 29 juin (donc les week end de
 juillet).
 Le départ se ferait le vendredi dans l'après midi pour arriver le soir à
 Berlin et on repartirait le lundi matin.
 PAR EXEMPLE : si on part le vendredi 29 on reviendrait le lundi 2.
 
 Je viens vers vous pour vous demander pourquoi vous n'auriez pas le temps
 pour ce week end et/ou pour les suivants.
 
 Pour le week du 29 juin ça risque d'être un peu tendu pour moi ainsi que
 pour Christophe (azmaeve), on a respectivement nos soutenances de stage le
 lundi 2 et le mardi 3.
 
 Mais le week end suivant du 6 juillet au 9 juillet, aucun problème et les
 suivants, aucun problème. il est même possible d'enchainer sur les RMLL.

Perso, je ne suis pas dispo avant le weekend du 21 juillet.
Je suis en vacance début juillet puis je vais surrement aller a Amiens pour les
RMLL.

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Next cipux meeting Monday 04/06/2007 at 20h00 CET

2007-05-29 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

We have planned to do a meeting the 04/06/2007 at 20h00 CET on the #cipux
channel on irc.oftc.net.

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070604

If someone is interested, feel free to join us.

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Cipux meeting today : 28/05/2007 at 20h00 CET

2007-05-28 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

We have planned to do a meeting today 28/05/2007 at 20h00 CET on the #cipux
channel on irc.oftc.net.

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070528

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Cipux meeting wednesday 09 May 20:00 CET

2007-05-04 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

Next cipux meeting is planned for wednesday 09 May 20:00CET
Feel free to join us on irc.oftc.net, #cipux

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Re: Future of OLPC

2007-04-19 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 19:17 Thu 19 Apr , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Thursday 12 April 2007 11:39, Xavier Oswald wrote:
   Does this mean that the plan to join forces with emdebian failed?
  No !
  We had a small meeting yesterday on #debian-olpc about what we will do in
  the future. And we all agreed that OLPC is quite an embedded system but
  it's isn't. 
 
 I dont understand. Why isnt it an embedded system if it is one? :)

We don't need so small libs.. as really embedded system.
Fedora had done a OLPC live CD without libs for embeded system and they are
using standard fedora packages. It's working thus we don't need to work in that
way.

  And the emdebian team is focusing on ARM hardware which is not 
  the king of hardware in OLPC.
 
 So what? There are other embedded archs as well.

As the emdebian team says to me, it will be lot of work to support other
architecture, and it's lot of very technical things that Im not able to do with
my knowledge..

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Re: One Laptop per Child

2007-04-18 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 20:35 Thu 12 Apr , Kurt Gramlich wrote:
 
 dear friends
 
 pleace check the packages on the One Laptop Per Child Live Cd
 
 http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/sdk/build1/livecd/

Thanks, I put this link in our wiki:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/OLPC

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Re: [Schlossgul-ml] Re: French Add-on CD? (Was: 3 KDE-Edu Apps in Google Summer; Coon Grade Book?)

2007-04-14 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 11:56 Sat 14 Apr , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Friday 13 April 2007 11:25, Xavier Oswald wrote:
  On 22:30 Thu 12 Apr , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
   [Kurt Gramlich]
  
as you can see in the french add on cd
  
   Are all the packages on the french add-on CD in debian/etch or in the
   debian-edu apt repository now?  Are all of them listed in one of the
   tasks in the debian-edu package?  If not, what is missing?
 
  No, they are not !
  I only have the moodle debian-edu theme in debian.
 
 Which was last changed in August 2006 - does it still work with the moodle in 
 Etch?

Yes, I think so but I will test it and reply to this mail soon !

  I have not worked on it because I didn't get any news from the french team
  since more than 6months.
  I don't see any reason to package and spend time on it, if no one is using
  it.
 
 Uh. So I cc: this to some more french addresses. The question is: 
 
 Are all the packages on the french add-on CD in debian/etch or in the
 debian-edu apt repository now?  Are all of them listed in one of the
 tasks in the debian-edu package?  If not, what is missing?

Ill keep this question to the other members ;)

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Re: French Add-on CD? (Was: 3 KDE-Edu Apps in Google Summer; Coon Grade Book?)

2007-04-13 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 22:30 Thu 12 Apr , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Kurt Gramlich]
  as you can see in the french add on cd
 
 Are all the packages on the french add-on CD in debian/etch or in the
 debian-edu apt repository now?  Are all of them listed in one of the
 tasks in the debian-edu package?  If not, what is missing?

No, they are not !
I only have the moodle debian-edu theme in debian.
I have not worked on it because I didn't get any news from the french team since
more than 6months.
I don't see any reason to package and spend time on it, if no one is using it.

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Re: Future of OLPC

2007-04-12 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 08:26 Thu 12 Apr , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Xavier Oswald]
  Hi all,
  
  I just opened a new alioth project for the OLPC :
  http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-olpc/
  
  If someone is interested to join the team, just send me a mail and tell 
  what you
  are interested to do..
 
 Does this mean that the plan to join forces with emdebian failed?
No !
We had a small meeting yesterday on #debian-olpc about what we will do in the
future. And we all agreed that OLPC is quite an embedded system but it's isn't.
And the emdebian team is focusing on ARM hardware which is not the king of
hardware in OLPC. 
So it was our decision to open a new project.

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Re: Future of OLPC

2007-04-11 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi all,

I just opened a new alioth project for the OLPC :
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-olpc/

If someone is interested to join the team, just send me a mail and tell what you
are interested to do..

Thanks !

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Future of OLPC

2007-04-03 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

As you know, there is no really OLPC team in debian, and we are quite 10 people
having an OLPC board so, it's time to do something.[1]

I cc this mail each people listed in [1]

Then I contacted the emdebian team [2] if we can join their team to get debian 
working on this board. There were some answer to my mail and it's really 
positive.

Here is the thread : [3]

So, I think we could join the emdebian team.
If you want to join, please send a mail to wookey([EMAIL PROTECTED])
with your wanted login and your ssh key.

If you think, it's not a good idea or have an other opinion, feel free to tell
us.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/OLPC
[2] http://www.emdebian.org/
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2007/03/msg00091.html

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Re: PowerPC (Mac) wanted for DevCamp 2007 in France

2007-02-15 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 10:49 Thu 15 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Wednesday 14 February 2007 09:21, Xavier Oswald wrote:
  Sven told me that he will bring an efika at the devcamp
  So you will be able to test debian-edu on this hardware. 
 
 I wont. The efika needs 2.6.20 kernel, while etch only has 2.6.18...
 I'm interested in fixing etch, not working on lenny ;-)
 
 The problem ppc currently has, is automated or guided installation of lvm.
 
 
  Otherwise bring an 2.5 harddrive with you ;)
 
 what for? Do you have a mac laptop / ppc mac mini? 
No It was for the efika ;) So you don't have to bring a 2.5 with you if you 
will not work on it.. 

I will ask Sven if he can bring an other machine you was asking for..

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Re: PowerPC (Mac) wanted for DevCamp 2007 in France

2007-02-14 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 18:41 Tue 13 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 can anybody bring a powerpc mac to the Developer Camp next week in Soissons? 
 I'm looking for a newworld machine, so this means it's an apple desktop (with 
 a translucend case) or ibook/powerbook.
 
 If needed, I can bring a (2.5 oder 3.5) harddrive, so that I dont need to 
 whipe your system :)
 
 This would greatly help to finish the remaining glitch(es?) of the debian-edu 
 powerpc port...!

Sven told me that he will bring an efika at the devcamp

efika:/# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
cpu : G2_LE
clock   : 396.00MHz
revision: 1.4 (pvr 8082 2014)
bogomips: 65.53
timebase: 3300
platform: Efika
machine : EFIKA5K2 CHRP PowerPC System
revision: 2B3
vendor  : bplan

So you will be able to test debian-edu on this hardware.
Otherwise bring an 2.5 harddrive with you ;)

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Re: status of cipux?

2007-02-08 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 16:12 Wed 07 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Jürgen,
 
 On Tuesday 06 February 2007 21:29, Jürgen Leibner wrote:
  We decided to upload to debian edu repository in short. This will be my
  task ;-)

Or I can prepare the packages too, as you want ..
I will test building cipux packages with pbuilder to test if we have all the
dependancies. That's my task for today ;)

 
 Cool.
 
  I will realy need your help in getting me able to understand how to
  contribute the first three cipux*.debs to debian edu.
  It would be very nice if you can assist me.

If you need help, ping me on irc ;) 

 I can sponsor the uploads, as in, I can upload them for you. So you only 
 need to prepare the packages.

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Re: pbuilder error with cipux-core

2007-02-08 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 14:47 Wed 07 Feb , Patrick Winnertz wrote:
 pbuilder installs all packages which are according to our config
 necessary to build it and terminates if something is missing. Obviously
 you missed one or more build-dependency.

Fixed !

So if you want to try it again, it would be nice ;)

Thanks.

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Re: etch-test-powerpc

2007-02-06 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 13:04 Tue 06 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Xavier,
 
 On Sunday 04 February 2007 00:42, Xavier Oswald wrote:
  I get an efika[1] today and I will test your dvd with this board.
 
 As far as I know the efika boards needs 2.6.19, so it wont work with etch. Is 
 that true? Or were the needed changes successfully backported to 2.6.18 (in 
 debian)?
Yes efika support begin with 2.6.19.
2.6.20 just get released with a better support and for the next version 2.6.21
the efika will be fully supported.

Then I will wait and work on getting d-i correctly working on this hardware.

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Re: status of cipux?

2007-02-06 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 13:08 Tue 06 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the subject says it all... whats the status of cipux? Last I heart, it failed 
 to build from source. Is that fixed by now? Is there a release we can take? 
 Is the autosetup finished (even by ignoring debian-policy regarding 
 configfiles for now)?

I have tried to install cipux on a plain debian etch system and it seems to work
and we have been able to find and solve bugs very quickly.

And Yes, the build from source was broken about a half day. :/

But I think we are very close to have it well working.

Christian and Jever have worked on the debian-edu side.
So Christian or Jever, if you can comment...

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Re: etch-test-powerpc

2007-02-06 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 12:58 Tue 06 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sunday 04 February 2007 00:36, Xavier Oswald wrote:
  There is an issue/bug in d-i about the boot flag on the boot partition, is
  it related ?
 
 bugnumber?

I don't know if it is related:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=392767

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Re: etch-test-powerpc

2007-02-03 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 16:20 Sat 03 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Saturday 03 February 2007 15:34, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  Autopartitioning should happen for workstation installs.  Standalone
  installs should provide manual partitioning.
 
 Ah.
 
 If I choose workstation alone, it even happens on powerpc, but then it 
 complains that no newworld boot partition has been created...

There is an issue/bug in d-i about the boot flag on the boot partition, is it
related ?

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Re: etch-test-powerpc

2007-02-03 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 12:16 Fri 02 Feb , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I tested etch-test-powerpc yesterday (on a g3 233 mhz imac newworld) and 
 discountered a problem:
 
 If I answer the really use the automatic partition tool with no, the 
 question infinitly comes back. Then I answered yes (didnt have much 
 choice), and, ended up in the manual partitioner. Does i386 have the same 
 issue?
 
 Then, in the end, the installer informs me that no bootloader was installed, 
 but the yaboot-installer.udeb is now present.
 
 When I choose automatic partioning in the beginning, the installer complains 
 that the apple bootstrap partition is not there. Where are the partman 
 recipes kept?
 
 Also I noted that when I choose standalone, I'm prompted for local user 
 creation (and not only the root passwd) - is that the same on i386?

I get an efika[1] today and I will test your dvd with this board. Morevover, my
pegasos[2] will be available during this week and I will test on this hardware
debian-edu too. I will send feedback ASAP on this list.

Have you tested this powerpc dvd on your pegasos ?

Otherwise, one of the main developer of parted should make a talk during the
fosdem, I will try to meet this guy, so if someone has a question...

[1]http://www.pegasosppc.com/efika.php
[2]http://www.pegasosppc.com/pegasos.php

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Re: presentation: we want you for debian-edu/skolelinux

2007-01-13 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 10:33 Sun 14 Jan , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm going to give a presentation we want you for debian-edu/skolelinux at 
 linux.conf.au in Sydney on monday, that is in 30h.
 
 Slides are at http://layer-acht.org/debian-edu_LCA2007.pdf - if you have some 
 time, please give me some feedback :)

We cannot read the text at the bottom on slide 5.
Other slides are concerned too but it's not clear on slide 5.
On slide 9 you mean simplified instead of simplefied.

And maybe you can speak about the liveCD if someone want to test it.

Otherwise, your presentation seems to be complete and well done.

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Re: LTSP: No mouse wheel with USB (solved)

2007-01-12 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 08:13 Fri 12 Jan , RalfGesellensetter wrote:
 Hi Uwe,
 
 thank you, ...
 
 Am Donnerstag 11 Januar 2007 12:27 schrieb Uwe Döbereiner:
  Hello, this works for me, since a long time ago:
 
  Section InputDevice
          Identifier      Configured Mouse
          Driver          mouse
          Option          CorePointer
          Option          Device                /dev/input/mice
          Option          Protocol              ImPS/2
  #       Option          Protocol              PS/2
  #       Option          Emulate3Buttons       true
          Option          Emulate3Buttons       false
          Option          ZAxisMapping          4 5
  EndSection
 
 I found some documentation from Klaus Ade. Accordingly I added
 
 [ltsp001]
 # Test USBmouse with wheel:
 
 X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL  = imps/2
 X_MOUSE_DEVICE= /dev/input/mice
 RCFILE_01   = usbdev
 
 which seems to be working. usbdev refers to a file that looks like this:
 $ cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.d/usbdev

To find wich device is the good one, you can use cat /dev/input/mice or 
cat /dev/psaux and then try some click and wheel. If some strange characters 
appear, you will see if it works ;)

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Re: Cipux status

2006-12-28 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 23:03 Wed 20 Dec , Xavier Oswald wrote:

 W: cipux-cibot: zero-byte-file-in-doc-directory 
 usr/share/doc/cipux-cibot/html/cipux_setup_ldap_objects.html
 N:
 N:   Package contains a file which is empty.
 N:
Done !

 Check FilesCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
 ('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX').
 Check DocumentationCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
 ('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX::CAT::Web.3pm.gz').
 Check FilesCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
 ('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX').
 Check DocumentationCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
 ('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX::Conversion.3pm.gz').
This is a well know bug of linda, please have a look at #385891.
I tested these two manpages separatly and they are working fine.

 W: cipux-cibot; File /usr/lib/cipux/sbin/cipux_setup contained in /usr/lib of 
 Architecture: all package.
  The file shown above is installed into /usr/lib, but the package that
  contains it is a architecture-independent package. This file should be
  installed into /usr/share instead.
 W: cipux-profile; File /usr/lib/cipux/sbin/cipux_profile_fr contained in 
 /usr/lib of Architecture: all package.
 W: cipux-rpc; File /usr/lib/cipux/bin/cipux_rpc contained in /usr/lib of 
 Architecture: all package.
 W: cipux-samba; File /usr/lib/cipux/bot/cipux_bot_logon_ldap contained in 
 /usr/lib of Architecture: all package.
Christian, any news about these remaining warnings ?

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Cipux status

2006-12-20 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

Well, I have work a little bit on Cipux ( between two school exams ;).
There are the last things to solve:

W: cipux-cibot: zero-byte-file-in-doc-directory 
usr/share/doc/cipux-cibot/html/cipux_setup_ldap_objects.html
N:
N:   Package contains a file which is empty.
N:

and:

Check FilesCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX').
Check DocumentationCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX::CAT::Web.3pm.gz').
Check FilesCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX').
Check DocumentationCheck failed. Exception KeyError thrown 
('/usr/share/man/man3/CipUX::Conversion.3pm.gz').
W: cipux-cibot; File /usr/lib/cipux/sbin/cipux_setup contained in /usr/lib of 
Architecture: all package.
 The file shown above is installed into /usr/lib, but the package that
 contains it is a architecture-independent package. This file should be
 installed into /usr/share instead.
W: cipux-profile; File /usr/lib/cipux/sbin/cipux_profile_fr contained in 
/usr/lib of Architecture: all package.
W: cipux-rpc; File /usr/lib/cipux/bin/cipux_rpc contained in /usr/lib of 
Architecture: all package.
W: cipux-samba; File /usr/lib/cipux/bot/cipux_bot_logon_ldap contained in 
/usr/lib of Architecture: all package.

I think it should not be to hard to solve this issues.
Christian, can you have a look?
I would be happy to see cipux soon in debian..

Or if a DD on this list can have a look.
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Re: meeting debian

2006-12-11 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 00:52 Mon 11 Dec , Christian Kuelker wrote:
 The Linitian warning jever send to me are:
 W: cipux-cibot: script-not-executable ./etc/cipux/refine.d/disabled/oo11.sh
 W: cipux-cibot: script-not-executable ./etc/cipux/refine.d/disabled/kde3.sh
 W: cipux-cibot: script-not-executable ./etc/cipux/refine.d/disabled/xchat.sh
 W: cipux-cibot: script-not-executable ./etc/cipux/refine.d/enabled/void.sh

I think for these warnings you just have to do a small chmod +x on this files 
or ?

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Re: cipux status

2006-11-29 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 23:16 Sun 19 Nov , Christian Külker wrote:

Hi,

Christian, what's the state of your code ?
Have you solved the remaining lintian/linda warnings ?

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cipux status

2006-11-18 Thread Xavier Oswald
---

---
- cipux-samba_3.2.11-1_all.deb
W: cipux-samba; File /usr/lib/cipux/bot/cipux_bot_logon_ldap contained in
/usr/lib of Architecture: all package.
 The file shown above is installed into /usr/lib, but the package that
  contains it is a architecture-independent package. This file should be
   installed into /usr/share instead.
---

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Re: Cipux into debian

2006-11-11 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

The two missing perl libraries in debian for cipux are in the NEW queue:
- libauthen-simple-perl
- libauthen-simple-pam-perl

If other libs are needed, feel free to ask me, I get a commit access on alioth
in the pkg-perl repository and I'm now member of the perl team.

So we will be able to upload soon cipux into debian.
Christian, what's the state of cipux, do you need help ?

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RFS: libauthen-simple-perl

2006-11-04 Thread Xavier Oswald
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package libauthen-simple-perl.

* Package name: libauthen-simple-perl
  Version : 0.04-1
  Upstream Author : Christian Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : 
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/C/CH/CHANSEN/Authen-Simple-0.4.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Section : perl

It builds these binary packages:
libauthen-simple-perl - Simple and consistent perl framework for authentication.

The package is lintian and linda clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 396849

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libauthen-simple-perl
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libauthen-simple-perl/libauthen-simple-perl_0.04-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

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RFS: libauthen-simple-pam-perl

2006-11-04 Thread Xavier Oswald
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package libauthen-simple-pam-perl.

* Package name: libauthen-simple-pam-perl
  Version : 0.02-1
  Upstream Author : Christian Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : 
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/C/CH/CHANSEN/Authen-Simple-PAM-0.2.tar.gz
* License : GPL
  Section : perl

It builds these binary packages:
libauthen-simple-pam-perl - Simple PAM authentication

The package is lintian and linda clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 397014

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libauthen-simple-pam-perl
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libauthen-simple-pam-perl/libauthen-simple-pam-perl_0.02-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 03:09 Tue 31 Oct , Christian Kuelker wrote:
 Hi
 
 Holger Levsen schrieb:
  I cannot find a binary package cipux-cat-web in the debian/control located 
  there... please add :) 
 
 fixed
 
  And while your at it, upgrade to policy 3.7.2, please.
 
 Yes no problem, or will all fall into pieces if I do that?
 Where this number should be added? Or @Xavier may you do it.
done.

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 13:29 Mon 30 Oct , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Monday 30 October 2006 12:08, Christian Kuelker wrote:
  http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cipux/trunk/cat-web/src/?rev=0sc=0
 
 I tried to build it in an etch chroot and it worked, yay!
 
 I could also install all packages, except cipux-webmin (expected, as webmin 
 is 
 not included in etch) and cipux-rpc. cipux-rpc is uninstallable because of 
 missing packages libauthen-simple-perl and libauthen-simple-pam-perl.
 
 Please includes these packages in your efforts, atm the source for 
 thosepackages (for me) is http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/ but I 
 doubt thats the location you use :-) Where do you get the packages from?
 
 BTW, looking at libauthen-simple-pam-perl-0.02/debian/copyright this is not 
 enough, please read  
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html and fix 
 accordingly. (I guess this is the case for -simple-perl as well, but I have 
 not checked.)

Are these packages working ?
- http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-pam-perl/
- http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-perl/

I think, they just need some policy modifications or ?

If it is so, I will made the two ITPs and become the maintainer because
christian is already very busy with cipux.

Christian OK ? If yes, I can put you as co-maintainer.

Otherwise, can I use the cipux repository to maintain it ? Or should I use the
perl group repository on alioth and then ask an account ?

Thanks!

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 12:07 Tue 31 Oct , Christian Kuelker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Xavier Oswald schrieb:
  On 13:29 Mon 30 Oct , Holger Levsen wrote:
  
  Are these packages working ?
  - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-pam-perl/
  - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-perl/
 
 Xavier, we talked at DevCamp about the packages. You build them already there.
 I used cdbs to build them on my repository.
 They are normally on CPAN. There is also a automatic debian package build 
 facility
 there.
Ok , I did forget that ;) 

  Otherwise, can I use the cipux repository to maintain it ? Or should I use 
  the
  perl group repository on alioth and then ask an account ?
 
 I think perl group repository is better, because they have nothing in common 
 with
 CipUX accept that they are used. Normal CPAN packages should ALL be in Debian 
 not
 in CipUX.
Then, I will ask for write access to the perl group project on alioth and find
uploaders for this two libs.

It should be ok tomorow !

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-30 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 13:29 Mon 30 Oct , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Monday 30 October 2006 12:08, Christian Kuelker wrote:
  http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cipux/trunk/cat-web/src/?rev=0sc=0
 
 I tried to build it in an etch chroot and it worked, yay!
 
 I could also install all packages, except cipux-webmin (expected, as webmin 
 is 
 not included in etch) and cipux-rpc. cipux-rpc is uninstallable because of 
 missing packages libauthen-simple-perl and libauthen-simple-pam-perl.
 
 Running linda and lintian at the source packages gives only one error 
 (outdated version of policy, please upgrade to 3.7.2) but running it on the 
 binary packages gives lots of errors:
 
 from linda:
 
 W: cipux-cibot; Executable /usr/lib/cipux/sbin/migrate_3.2.10_to_3.2.11 with 
 perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script.
 W: cipux-cibot; File /usr/lib/cipux/sbin/cipux_setup contained in /usr/lib of 
 Architecture: all package.
 W: cipux-client; Long descriptions contains short description.
 E: cipux-common; No manual page for binary cipux_common.
 W: cipux-deploy; File /usr/lib/cipux/bot/cipux_bot_deploy_conf contained 
 in /usr/lib of Architecture: all package.
 W: cipux-profile; File /usr/lib/cipux/sbin/cipux_profile_fr contained 
 in /usr/lib of Architecture: all package.
 W: cipux-rpc; File /usr/lib/cipux/bin/cipux_rpc contained in /usr/lib of 
 Architecture: all package.
 W: cipux-samba; File /usr/lib/cipux/bot/cipux_bot_logon_ldap contained 
 in /usr/lib of Architecture: all package.
 
 from lintian:
 
 W: cipux-samba: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-rpc: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-rpc: init.d-script-missing-lsb-section /etc/init.d/cipux-rpcdr
 W: cipux-rpc: init.d-script-missing-lsb-section /etc/init.d/cipux-rpcd
 W: cipux-profile: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-notifier: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-notifier: 
 init.d-script-missing-lsb-section /etc/init.d/cipux-notifier
 W: cipux-deploy: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-common: binary-without-manpage cipux_common
 W: cipux-common: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-client: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-client: init.d-script-missing-lsb-section /etc/init.d/cipux-client
 W: cipux-cibot: manpage-has-bad-whatis-entry 
 usr/share/man/man1/cipux_refine_homedir.1.gz
 W: cipux-cibot: manpage-has-bad-whatis-entry 
 usr/share/man/man1/cipux_make_documentation_index.1.gz
 W: cipux-cibot: manpage-has-bad-whatis-entry 
 usr/share/man/man1/migrate_3.2.8_to_3.2.9.1.gz
 W: cipux-cibot: manpage-has-errors-from-man 
 usr/share/man/man1/cipux_task_list_users.1.gz 175: warning [p 1, 6.5i]: can't 
 break line
 W: cipux-cibot: manpage-has-errors-from-man 
 usr/share/man/man1/cipux_task_list_images.1.gz 175: warning [p 1, 6.5i]: 
 can't break line
 
 [probably a hundred manpage-has-errors-from-man, $file warning can't break 
 line errors skipped...]
 
 W: cipux-cibot: manpage-has-errors-from-man 
 usr/share/man/man3/CipUX::Conversion.3pm.gz 186: warning: can't find numbered 
 character 195
 W: cipux-cibot: zero-byte-file-in-doc-directory 
 usr/share/doc/cipux-cibot/html/cipux_setup_ldap_objects.html
 E: cipux-cibot: 
 python-script-but-no-python-dep ./usr/share/perl5/CipUX/CipuxTools/__init__.py
 W: cipux-cibot: 
 executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/lib/cipux/sbin/migrate_3.2.10_to_3.2.11
 W: cipux-cibot: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 W: cipux-cat-webmin: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 
 Please fix those :-D

ok, I will have a look to this warnings and speak about the two missing perl
packages with the perl team.

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-30 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 15:32 Mon 30 Oct , Christian Kuelker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Holger Levsen schrieb:
  On Monday 30 October 2006 12:08, Christian Kuelker wrote:
  http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cipux/trunk/cat-web/src/?rev=0sc=0
  
  I tried to build it in an etch chroot and it worked, yay!
  
  I could also install all packages, except cipux-webmin (expected, as webmin 
  is 
  not included in etch) and cipux-rpc. cipux-rpc is uninstallable because of 
  missing packages libauthen-simple-perl and libauthen-simple-pam-perl.
  
  Please includes these packages in your efforts, atm the source for 
  thosepackages (for me) is http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/ but I 
  doubt thats the location you use :-) Where do you get the packages from?
  
  BTW, looking at libauthen-simple-pam-perl-0.02/debian/copyright this is not 
  enough, please read  
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html and fix 
  accordingly. (I guess this is the case for -simple-perl as well, but I have 
  not checked.)
 
 @Xavier, can you check this out?
Yes !!
I will make the tow ITPs and find someone in the perl team who will be able to
upload the packages and help me to get it in debian ASAP.

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Cipux into debian

2006-10-25 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

Now, it's time to see cipux entering into debian. :)

Well, how should we do that ?

Some DD on this list want to review the package in the cipux svn on alioth or
should I build the packages and then send the link where I put these packages on
this list ?

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cipux meeting today : 2006-10-05 22h00 UTC and 20h00 CET

2006-10-05 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

We have a meeting about the cipux project today.
date: 2006-10-05 22h00 UTC and 20h00 CET

If you have questions or suggestions, you are welcome.

This meeting will hold on irc
server: irc.oftc.net 
chan: #cipux

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Re: SkoleLiveCd CipUX moodle php translation into norwegian

2006-08-31 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 17:04 Thu 31 Aug , Kurt Gramlich wrote:
 please send me an email, Xavier or i will send you the english
 source code.

Or you can find it in the svn:
$svn co 
svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-edu/trunk/fr/moodle-cipux/usr/share/moodle/lang

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Re: new version SkoleLiveCD

2006-08-30 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 13:48 Wed 30 Aug , Steffen Joeris wrote:

  so please contact Xavier and support him to build the debian packages of
  CipUX. We need a new and better user administration on the etch version.
 Xavier already added some things to the metapackage, we are still waiting for 
 the packages.

We are testing and debugging cipux for now, We have Lior Kaplan in the CipUX
team and he is a DD. So he will have a look and we will soon have a version
which could be uploaded to debian. I hope ! :)

For the French packages, they are still in a developpement/debugging state.
But it will not take that much time.

I hope to have soon (maybe today) the moodle debian-edu theme package into 
debian, I'm speaking with the moodle maintainer.

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One Laptop Per Child

2006-08-28 Thread Xavier Oswald

Hi,

Some informations about debian-edu one laptop per child project.

So, we just opened a new irc channel for this project.
server: irc.oftc.net 
chan: #debian-olpc

And we have a wiki page.
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/OLPC

Here, the OLPC home page.
http://laptop.org/

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Re: Where are the French extra-packages?

2006-08-22 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 22:19 Mon 21 Aug , Morten Werner Olsen wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:41:07AM +0200, Xavier Oswald wrote:
 
   Where are the French extra-packages?  They need to be uploaded into
   Debian very soon to make it into Debian/Etch, and should be uploaded
   into the debian-edu repository as well to make sure we track their
   existence and try to find room for them on the first CD.
  
  The packages are in the debian-edu repository : debian-edu/trunk/fr
 
 Thierry and I started a todo-wiki-page [1] in Extremadura as a start of
 moving the packages on the French Addon-CD into Debian and the DebianEdu
 local-repository. I guess the people working on this should try to
 update it with more info about the packages (package names, location in
 SVN, maintainer).

Ok, I will do that. 

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Re: Where are the French extra-packages?

2006-08-21 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 15:30 Sun 20 Aug , Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 
 Where are the French extra-packages?  They need to be uploaded into
 Debian very soon to make it into Debian/Etch, and should be uploaded
 into the debian-edu repository as well to make sure we track their
 existence and try to find room for them on the first CD.

The packages are in the debian-edu repository : debian-edu/trunk/fr

 The lack of visible progress in getting them into Debian worries me.
 I believe there is a lot of hard work left to do before they will be
 ready to go into Etch, and unless someone (I'm not going to work on
 it) start doing the work, the packages will be missing in Debian.

You are right, there is a lot of work left before they will be ready.
The bad point is that Im alone working on this packaging but I will
start the work of getting them into debian this week !!

 There were questions about automatically building the French extra CD
 on administrator.s.n.  I'm all for it.  I suspect the easiest approach
 to make that happen is to upload the packages to the debian-edu
 repository and list them as recommends and suggests in the debian-edu
 tasks.  This will make the packages show up on the second CD now being
 built for Etch.  We can then call this CD the French extra CD. :)

Ok, I will list them in the debian-edu task.

 And if we are able to trim down the content on the first CD even
 further, we will get the French packages on that CD instead.  Should
 we try to make a DVD as well?

The french addon CD take about 450Mb. So using two CDs is enough. But I
like the idea of having a DVD :)

 French team, please focus on this.  Time is short before etch freezes,
 and there is a lot of hard work left to do. :)

Yep !

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debian-edu on sparc ??

2006-05-13 Thread Xavier Oswald

Hi, 

I just get some Sun Sparc Ulta 5, this one : 
http://www.anysystem.com/u5-special-1.html

I don't know if any work have been done to have debian-edu on sparc and
if it is interesting ?!

If someone is interested, I can give 2 or 3 machines for debian-edu
test/developpment, I will be at the french developper camp so feel free
to send me a mail and I will bring these machines with me.

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Re: About cvs for french dev.

2005-12-29 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 09:46 Thu 29 Dec , Morten Werner Olsen wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 03:05:28PM +0100, Xavier Oswald wrote:
 
  - After installing the skolelinux official CD, we wants a second CD
  which will contains all modifications we want, like an upgrade CD.
  - It should be easy to use so, we made a install script for automatic
  software installation(additionnal packages which aren't on the
  official skolelinux cd), Intranet(Moodle which modification for french
  school), Personnalization of home desktop for users(french need too
  :),Ldap administration tools(Cipux),Openoffice plugins
  
  This CD was made because every school don't have an internet access to
  upgrade skolelinux and install additionnal packages.
  
  I hope we could use a common cvs repository or a new branch of the
  official repository so everybody could have easily access to the
  modifications.
 
 What if you add the contents of this CD into the SVN-repository at
 alioth.debian.org (debian-edu/src/french-addon-cd) ?
 
  Other good point is that some additionnal learning software are in french
  and it would be nice if translation could be made, and become official
  debian packages ;)
 
 If you have the whole addon-cd in SVN others can also take a look and
 maybe help suggesting solutions for implement your
 addon-cd-functionality into Debian the first Skolelinux/Debian-Edu CD.

You are right, that's why, we are waiting of the decision from the no
and de community about using a common svn or not.

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Re: italc and other packages

2005-12-26 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 22:15 Sun 25 Dec , Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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 On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:06:29 +0100
 Xavier Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 15:39 Sat 24 Dec , Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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   On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:18:46 +0100
   Xavier Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Debian Edu Developpers can maintain both Debian and Debian-Edu
applications.
   
   Please clarify: What packages (besides SUN Java and Opera for
   obvious reasons) are Debian-Edu without being Debian?
  
  The best way is to have all packages in Debian, but as I know we have
  packages in skolelinux that aren't now in Debian. So we have Debian
  and Debian-Edu maintainer.
  In the future, I hope every package will be in Debian :)
 
 I know that distinction is true for SUN Java and (used to be for) Opera.
 
 I do not believe that is the general case. If so, then please clarify.

It's not in a general case.

I know that Steffen is maintaining stuff around skolelinux.
Maybe he can explain how he works and if he maintain packages that
aren't directly in Debian.

I think if a software will be used mainly with skolelinux the
field should be something like Debian-Edu team as italc :
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers debian-edu@lists.debian.org
   
   What makes sense to me is that the developers growing an expertise
   in slicing Debian into the sub-parts distributed as Skolelinux
   focus on the knowledge specific to that slicing.
   
   I don't think it makes sense to bother *all* those same folks with C
   ++ transitions, Python policy changes, different version control
   systems, and and..., just because the software has an educational
   use.
   
   Those interested in both infrastructural development of a CDD and
   specific packaging of an educational piece of software can simply
   join both teams - but when mixing then you make it more complex to
   join and help out.
  
  Hmm, you are right, it's more complex to help but for big packages, we
  need to have more than 1 or 2 person to help, package, upgrade...
  
But if it is a software which will be used both in Debian and
Debian-edu and moreover if it's a small package, only one person
should be in this field.
   
   There's nothing wrong in teams with only a sinlge person. The
   difference between single-person teams and personal maintainance is
   the difficulty for person number two to join later on.
  
  that's true. I know that some DD are working on to facilitate to
  maintain packages with more than 1 person and moreover they are
  working for enable non-DD to have a branch and could maintain
  software because some people have asked to maintain packages and they
  don't want to become DD. That's a real problem.
  
  Now the best and so the easier way is to have a single-person to
  maintain a package.
 
 I think you are confusing things a bit. What you describe above is
 called co-maintained packages, and has been around for some time.
 
 It seems the thing you mention being worked on is
 wiki.debian.org/CollaborativeMaintenance which is an _extensions_ to
 what already exist today.

Oh, it's done right, it was a discussion I had with others DD and
Raphael 6 months ago.

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Re: italc and other packages

2005-12-24 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 15:39 Sat 24 Dec , Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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 On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:18:46 +0100
 Xavier Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Debian Edu Developpers can maintain both Debian and Debian-Edu
  applications.
 
 Please clarify: What packages (besides SUN Java and Opera for obvious
 reasons) are Debian-Edu without being Debian?

The best way is to have all packages in Debian, but as I know we have
packages in skolelinux that aren't now in Debian. So we have Debian and
Debian-Edu maintainer.
In the future, I hope every package will be in Debian :)

  I think if a software will be used mainly with skolelinux the field
  should be something like Debian-Edu team as italc :
  Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers debian-edu@lists.debian.org
 
 What makes sense to me is that the developers growing an expertise in
 slicing Debian into the sub-parts distributed as Skolelinux focus on
 the knowledge specific to that slicing.
 
 I don't think it makes sense to bother *all* those same folks with C++
 transitions, Python policy changes, different version control systems,
 and and..., just because the software has an educational use.
 
 Those interested in both infrastructural development of a CDD and
 specific packaging of an educational piece of software can simply join
 both teams - but when mixing then you make it more complex to join and
 help out.

Hmm, you are right, it's more complex to help but for big packages, we
need to have more than 1 or 2 person to help, package, upgrade...

  But if it is a software which will be used both in Debian and
  Debian-edu and moreover if it's a small package, only one person
  should be in this field.
 
 There's nothing wrong in teams with only a sinlge person. The
 difference between single-person teams and personal maintainance is the
 difficulty for person number two to join later on.

that's true. I know that some DD are working on to facilitate to maintain
packages with more than 1 person and moreover they are working for
enable non-DD to have a branch and could maintain software because some
people have asked to maintain packages and they don't want to become DD.
That's a real problem.

Now the best and so the easier way is to have a single-person to
maintain a package.

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Re: italc and other packages

2005-12-21 Thread Xavier Oswald


 Hi

Hi Steffen,

 italc was discussed in the .org proposal thread, but i like the discussion of 
 this thread and i don't want to disturb it so I start a new (small) one :)
 
 Some of you wonder why italc is under the maintainance of Debian Edu 
 Developers .
 Well Florian Ragwitz and me debianized it and we wanted to keep it under svn 
 and we worked on it, because there was a real demand for it by many 
 administrators (I hate to use it as a big brother software, i like to use it 
 for teaching, so please keep this in mind).
 So we decided to put ourselves as uploaders and use Debian Edu Developers for 
 maintainer-field.
 Well we can change this in the next upload.
 What is your opinion? Should we also maintain general applications, as we did 
 with kgeography and italc, or shall we only maintain skolelinux native 
 packages with Debian Edu Developers???

Debian Edu Developpers can maintain both Debian and Debian-Edu applications.

 I personally prefer to have the chance to decide it during the debianization, 
 maybe it is really useful for skolelinux (and of course for debian) so we can 
 maintain it under Debian Edu Developers.
 But i am only one of the whole community, so please give some statements.

I think if a software will be used mainly with skolelinux the field
should be something like Debian-Edu team as italc :
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers debian-edu@lists.debian.org

But if it is a software which will be used both in Debian and Debian-edu
and moreover if it's a small package, only one person should be in this
field.

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New mailing list

2005-12-17 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

We have created a new mailing list around debian-edu for french people.
If you are interested, you can find it here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-french/


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Re: how to subscribe this list

2005-12-14 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 14:32 Wed 14 Dec , Embrik Kaslegard wrote:
 How do i subscribe to this list?

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe

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Re: the .org proposal or join forces

2005-12-07 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 10:41 Wed 07 Dec , Steffen Joeris wrote:
 Hi
 
 As discussed on irc I start a thread about the .org proposal.
 Ok at first a short summary.
 
 As all of you know we are organized in local teams.
 There is a french team, a german team,  and so on 
 Well there are reasons for that. Some tasks have to be done alone (for 
 example 
 a german translation). But there are many tasks especially in the development 
 where we have to stick together. Of course we are all working on 
 developer.skolelinux.no and so the developers are already working together.
 But nevertheless we can stick more together with the .org proposal, means:
 
 What about working more on www.skolelinux.org and doing blogs on
 planet.skolelinux.org, getting email accounts on @skolelinux.org and having a 
 space called people.skolelinux.org .
 So we can provide general information of the development of 
 Skolelinux/Debian-Edu there (of course in english).


hmm, that's very interesting and of course I agree with you.  I think
that each team don't really know what the others do, thus maybe some
stuffs will be done twice, and that's the bad way.

 If we agree there is an other topic which has to be discussed here:
 
 As a few of you know in the german team we started a process called 
 New Member Process were we take care of the new member and see that we can 
 integrate him/her and that he/she can get the work he/she wants to do.
 
 (It would be nice if someone else from the german team can describe the 
 process here!!!).

Yes, I think so.
But I hope not so hard than becoming official debian developper ;)

 To summarize the intention of the .org-proposal in one sentence let me say:
 We are one project and we should stick together and join forces and we have 
 to show it, so let the skolelinux development become stronger with that.
 
 I hope that I can make it clear what the .org-proposal means and why i 
 started this thread.

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Re: About cvs for french dev.

2005-12-06 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 14:15 Tue 06 Dec , Benjamin Sonntag wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The french team who is developping skolelinux since 2005-05 has no cvs
 for now.
 
 I joined the team on 2005-11 and convinced them to use cvs for our
 sources. cool idea huh ?
 
 Do you think it is possible to have a dedicated cvs module in your
 debian-edu cvs server for the french project, or do you think we'd
 rather use our own cvs in France (we can administrate a local version of
 course) ? We want to store our specific packages sources in this cvs and
 the cd builder scripts too.
 
 We also want to use some scripts to send a mail when a commit is sent to
 the repository so that our french server can do nightly builds and so
 that our mailing list can receive cvs commit warning messages.
 
 What is your opinion and what solution do you prefer ?

I think you/we need more details..

Firstly have a look here:
http://schlossgul.org/wakka.php?wiki=LisTe
This page contains all informations about what is in our second CD, sorry it's 
in french so
I will shortly explain what it is..

What we need ?
- After installing the skolelinux official CD, we wants a second CD
which will contains all modifications we want, like an upgrade CD.
- It should be easy to use so, we made a install script for automatic
software installation(additionnal packages which aren't on the
official skolelinux cd), Intranet(Moodle which modification for french
school), Personnalization of home desktop for users(french need too
:),Ldap administration tools(Cipux),Openoffice plugins

This CD was made because every school don't have an internet access to
upgrade skolelinux and install additionnal packages.

I hope we could use a common cvs repository or a new branch of the
official repository so everybody could have easily access to the modifications.

Other good point is that some additionnal learning software are in french
and it would be nice if translation could be made, and become official
debian packages ;)

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Re: About cvs for french dev.

2005-12-06 Thread Xavier Oswald

Hum, I forgot something, here you can find all informations about what
contain the second CD:
http://ftp.skolelinux.fr/
 
 I think you/we need more details..
 
 Firstly have a look here:
 http://schlossgul.org/wakka.php?wiki=LisTe
 This page contains all informations about what is in our second CD, sorry 
 it's in french so
 I will shortly explain what it is..
 
 What we need ?
 - After installing the skolelinux official CD, we wants a second CD
 which will contains all modifications we want, like an upgrade CD.
 - It should be easy to use so, we made a install script for automatic
 software installation(additionnal packages which aren't on the
 official skolelinux cd), Intranet(Moodle which modification for french
 school), Personnalization of home desktop for users(french need too
 :),Ldap administration tools(Cipux),Openoffice plugins
 
 This CD was made because every school don't have an internet access to
 upgrade skolelinux and install additionnal packages.
 
 I hope we could use a common cvs repository or a new branch of the
 official repository so everybody could have easily access to the 
 modifications.
 
 Other good point is that some additionnal learning software are in french
 and it would be nice if translation could be made, and become official
 debian packages ;)
 
 Sorry for my bad english...

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