Re: armel/armhf arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concernsj

[Roger Shimizu]

Dear armel/armhf shakeholders,

I talked to a few people about keeping armel in buster, during 1st and
2nd day in debcamp.
Seems the blocker is just the buildd server hardware, and memory size it has.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 7:04 PM, W. Martin Borgert  wrote:
>
> Quoting Uwe Kleine-König :
>>
>> If the concerns are mostly about the hardware not being rackable, there
>> is a rackable NAS by Netgear:
>>
>> 
>> https://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN2120.aspx#tab-techspecs
>
> This seems to be out of stock and discontinued, unfortunately.

This is still available in amazon:
- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MQK14KC

> Anyway, I'm relatively sure, that I can convince my boss to sponsor/donate
> both armel and armhf hardware for Debian, if that is of any help. Or arm64
> used in "32 bits mode".

I think DSA team prefers armel or armhf real hardware (not just
developing boards).
So it'll be super great if you (or your boss) can kindly sponsor some
armel/armhf hardwares that support to install 4GB memory.

Thanks!

Cheers,
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Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concernsj

[Roger Shimizu]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:04 PM, Uwe Kleine-König
 wrote:
> Hello Julien,
>
> On 06/29/2018 11:23 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>>> If the concerns are mostly about the hardware not being rackable, there
>>> is a rackable NAS by Netgear:
>>>
>>>  
>>> https://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN2120.aspx#tab-techspecs
>>>
>>> with an armhf cpu. Not sure if cpu speed (1.2 GHz) and available RAM (2
>>> GiB) are good enough. The machine can run mainline Linux[1]. I think
>>> U-Boot doesn't support this machine in mainline though.
>>>
>> Rackable, while good, is only part of it.  The main part is remote
>> management.  I'm not seeing any mention of ipmi or anything like that in
>> the datasheet?
>
> you can access the serial console, but I don't think there is built-in
> support for something IPMI-like.
>
>> 2G is also way too little memory these days for a new buildd.
>
> Then the machine is out, the amount of RAM isn't upgradable.

I don't think 2GB is not enough for 32-bit machine.

I see armel is already not a candidate for buster [0].
So it seems we can discuss armhf, but no armel at all.
I don't agree with this idea.
And I think we should treat armel and armhf equally.

Both armel and armhf are working fine are millions of boards and
embedded devices, and have stable quality [1].
They deserve the support from a community driven distro.

[0] https://release.debian.org/buster/arch_qualify.html
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2017/11/msg00061.html

Cheers,
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