Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 22:38, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Incidentally, you should also broaden the list of relevant services; I would suggest adding kdm (and other display managers?), ssh-krb5, and apache2 at the least. Don't add display managers. At least with gdm I'm pretty sure that will kill X sessions... [Not willing to test this, of course] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 10:38:43PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Package: libc6 Version: 2.3.1-1 Severity: important Tags: sid The call to dpkg --compare-versions in libc's postinst should compare against a higher version than 2.1.95-1; after upgrading to 2.3.1-1, I found that a lot of services (including in particular inetd and kdm) didn't work right until I restarted them. Incidentally, you should also broaden the list of relevant services; I would suggest adding kdm (and other display managers?), ssh-krb5, and apache2 at the least. Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. You are correct. I'm surprised I didn't remember that before 2.3.1 was uploaded. We need to get out a 2.3.1-2 real quick to fix this before we get flooded with hundres of bug reports. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. Hm, good point, given that it may end up logging users out; never mind that bit, then. You are correct. I'm surprised I didn't remember that before 2.3.1 was uploaded. Oh, well; it *is* called unstable for a reason... ;-) -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. Hmm, I wonder if it would be saner to have some mechanism (perhaps just a directory fed to run-parts?) for packages to register themselves for the next time this sort of change happens; having libc list affected services itself does strike me as a layering violation. OTOH, such events seem pretty rare (yay for compatibility within minor versions), so adding extra infrastructure for them may be overkill. On the gripping hand, Debian has always (rightly) placed a lot of value on infrastructure AFAICT. Thoughts? (Obviously this is too late to use for 2.2 - 2.3, but it should be possible to complete the transition in plenty of time for whatever follows it [2.4? 3.0?].) -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:00:24PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. Hmm, I wonder if it would be saner to have some mechanism (perhaps just a directory fed to run-parts?) for packages to register themselves for the next time this sort of change happens; having libc list affected services itself does strike me as a layering violation. We've been over this before. Problem is, it's almost impossible to tell which ones will need it till they actually fail. We've generally just done the libc6 upgreade and wait for bug reports on services that need to be added to the list. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've been over this before. Problem is, it's almost impossible to tell No doubt; apologies for neglecting to check the archives. which ones will need it till they actually fail. We've generally just done the libc6 upgreade and wait for bug reports on services that need to be added to the list. Fair enough. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 10:38:43PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Package: libc6 Version: 2.3.1-1 Severity: important Tags: sid The call to dpkg --compare-versions in libc's postinst should compare against a higher version than 2.1.95-1; after upgrading to 2.3.1-1, I found that a lot of services (including in particular inetd and kdm) didn't work right until I restarted them. Incidentally, you should also broaden the list of relevant services; I would suggest adding kdm (and other display managers?), ssh-krb5, and apache2 at the least. Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. You are correct. I'm surprised I didn't remember that before 2.3.1 was uploaded. We need to get out a 2.3.1-2 real quick to fix this before we get flooded with hundres of bug reports. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. Hm, good point, given that it may end up logging users out; never mind that bit, then. You are correct. I'm surprised I didn't remember that before 2.3.1 was uploaded. Oh, well; it *is* called unstable for a reason... ;-) -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info.
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 10:03:56AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. You are correct. I'm surprised I didn't remember that before 2.3.1 was uploaded. We need to get out a 2.3.1-2 real quick to fix this before we get flooded with hundres of bug reports. I'll get that this evening, and I'll make sure the uDeb patch is in there to keep the d-i folks happy. Anything else people need in there tonight? Tks, Jeff Bailey -- learning from failures is nice in theory... but in practice, it sucks :) - Wolfgang Jaehrling
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:00:24PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heh, restart display managers is outside the scope of libc. Restarting services is pushing it enough I think. Hmm, I wonder if it would be saner to have some mechanism (perhaps just a directory fed to run-parts?) for packages to register themselves for the next time this sort of change happens; having libc list affected services itself does strike me as a layering violation. We've been over this before. Problem is, it's almost impossible to tell which ones will need it till they actually fail. We've generally just done the libc6 upgreade and wait for bug reports on services that need to be added to the list. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've been over this before. Problem is, it's almost impossible to tell No doubt; apologies for neglecting to check the archives. which ones will need it till they actually fail. We've generally just done the libc6 upgreade and wait for bug reports on services that need to be added to the list. Fair enough. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info.
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 22:38, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Incidentally, you should also broaden the list of relevant services; I would suggest adding kdm (and other display managers?), ssh-krb5, and apache2 at the least. Don't add display managers. At least with gdm I'm pretty sure that will kill X sessions... [Not willing to test this, of course] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
Package: libc6 Version: 2.3.1-1 Severity: important Tags: sid The call to dpkg --compare-versions in libc's postinst should compare against a higher version than 2.1.95-1; after upgrading to 2.3.1-1, I found that a lot of services (including in particular inetd and kdm) didn't work right until I restarted them. Incidentally, you should also broaden the list of relevant services; I would suggest adding kdm (and other display managers?), ssh-krb5, and apache2 at the least. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux tux 2.4.19 #1 Sun Sep 29 19:11:39 EDT 2002 i686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US Versions of packages libc6 depends on: ii libdb1-compat 2.1.3-6The Berkeley database routines [gl -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#165258: libc6: Should restart services when upgrading from versions prior to 2.3
Package: libc6 Version: 2.3.1-1 Severity: important Tags: sid The call to dpkg --compare-versions in libc's postinst should compare against a higher version than 2.1.95-1; after upgrading to 2.3.1-1, I found that a lot of services (including in particular inetd and kdm) didn't work right until I restarted them. Incidentally, you should also broaden the list of relevant services; I would suggest adding kdm (and other display managers?), ssh-krb5, and apache2 at the least. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux tux 2.4.19 #1 Sun Sep 29 19:11:39 EDT 2002 i686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US Versions of packages libc6 depends on: ii libdb1-compat 2.1.3-6The Berkeley database routines [gl -- no debconf information
