Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC]

2014-03-16 Thread Markus Koschany
*bump*


On 19.02.2014 16:53, Markus Koschany wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have prepared a new release for freemind which is currently affected
 by bug #736105 and I am looking for a sponsor to upload it.

I'm still looking for a sponsor for freemind which got removed from
testing due to bug #736105. Now the fix simply removes the optional
flash browser from the package.

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/freemind/freemind_0.9.0+dfsg2-1.dsc

Thanks,

Markus



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Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC] - [UPLOADED]

2014-03-16 Thread tony mancill
On 03/16/2014 01:25 PM, Markus Koschany wrote:
 *bump*
 
 
 On 19.02.2014 16:53, Markus Koschany wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have prepared a new release for freemind which is currently affected
 by bug #736105 and I am looking for a sponsor to upload it.
 
 I'm still looking for a sponsor for freemind which got removed from
 testing due to bug #736105. Now the fix simply removes the optional
 flash browser from the package.
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/freemind/freemind_0.9.0+dfsg2-1.dsc

Hi Markus,

Thanks for the update.  Uploaded and tagged in SVN.

tony




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Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC]

2014-02-21 Thread Markus Koschany
Hello Paul,

On 21.02.2014 03:10, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Markus Koschany wrote:
 
 Gnash is able to handle that too.
 
 You've tested that gnash works with this particular Flash program?

Yeah, sure I did.

 However I have no preferences for flash
 
 As the maintainer of mtasc in Debian my preference is for Flash to
 die. mtasc is dead upstream. Adobe is abandoning Flash and so are web
 devs. Now is the time for anyone still using Flash to run away as fast
 as possible.

May I suggest that you

a) inform your reverse build-dependencies of the current situation
b) ask for mtasc's removal from Debian

That would allow people like me to focus on other release critical
issues instead of flogging a dead horse.

 I suggest to stick with the current solution and let the user decide.
 
 I would appreciate it if you would reconsider supporting the
 proprietary Flash platform.

There is nothing wrong with my solution since mtasc, gnash and freemind
are free software. But I am confident that I won't choose the same
solution twice in the future.

Please find the updated package at mentors.

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/freemind/freemind_0.9.0+dfsg2-1.dsc

Regards,

Markus




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Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC]

2014-02-20 Thread Markus Koschany
On Thu, 20. Feb 08:54 Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Markus Koschany wrote:

  I downloaded the missing sources from upstream's git repository and
  created an extra source tarball, so that freemind consists of two
  different source tarballs now. I simply removed the old flash file from
  the old tarball. The flash browser is now built from source at build
  time by using the additional source tarball.

 Personally I would just delete the SWF file from the source package
 and be done with it. I think Debian should encourage our upstreams to
 drop the Flash platform and replace their use of it with standard web
 stuff (HTML5, CSS, JS), at least that has some chance of having
 DFSG-free client support.

Gnash is able to handle that too. However I have no preferences for
flash but I suggest to stick with the current solution and let the
user decide.

Regards,

Markus


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Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC]

2014-02-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Markus Koschany wrote:

 Gnash is able to handle that too.

You've tested that gnash works with this particular Flash program?

 However I have no preferences for flash

As the maintainer of mtasc in Debian my preference is for Flash to
die. mtasc is dead upstream. Adobe is abandoning Flash and so are web
devs. Now is the time for anyone still using Flash to run away as fast
as possible.

 I suggest to stick with the current solution and let the user decide.

I would appreciate it if you would reconsider supporting the
proprietary Flash platform.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise


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Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC]

2014-02-19 Thread Felix Natter
Markus Koschany a...@gambaru.de writes:

 Hi all,

hi Markus,

 I have prepared a new release for freemind which is currently affected
 by bug #736105 and I am looking for a sponsor to upload it.

 I downloaded the missing sources from upstream's git repository and
 created an extra source tarball, so that freemind consists of two
 different source tarballs now. I simply removed the old flash file from
 the old tarball. The flash browser is now built from source at build
 time by using the additional source tarball.

I will soon package Freeplane's flash browser (which is almost the same
as FreeMind's flash browser) for Debian, and I wonder about the license
(what to put in debian/copyright)?

Is it:

Copyright: 2000-2013  Joerg Mueller, Daniel Polansky, Christian Foltin and 
others
License: GPL-2+

like the rest of FreeMind?

(BTW: here is the Makefile I use:
https://github.com/freeplane/misc/blob/master/flash-browser/source/Makefile)

Thanks and Best Regards,
-- 
Felix Natter


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Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC]

2014-02-19 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi Felix,

On 19.02.2014 20:59, Felix Natter wrote:
 Markus Koschany a...@gambaru.de writes:
[...]
 I will soon package Freeplane's flash browser (which is almost the same
 as FreeMind's flash browser) for Debian, and I wonder about the license
 (what to put in debian/copyright)?
 
 Is it:
 
 Copyright: 2000-2013  Joerg Mueller, Daniel Polansky, Christian Foltin and 
 others
 License: GPL-2+
 
 like the rest of FreeMind?

Yes, I think so too.

 (BTW: here is the Makefile I use:
 https://github.com/freeplane/misc/blob/master/flash-browser/source/Makefile)

I downloaded the sources from here

http://sourceforge.net/p/freemind/code/ci/master/tree/flash/

and just used the corresponding build.xml file with ant

ant -f flash/build.xml

The build file itself calls mtasc in turn with

mtasc visorFreeMind/Main.as -swf visorFreemind.swf -main -trace off
-header  800:600:24 -version 8 -cp ../std -cp ../std8

and that's it.

Cheers,

Markus



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Re: RFS: freemind 0.9.0+dfsg2-1 [RC]

2014-02-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Markus Koschany wrote:

 I downloaded the missing sources from upstream's git repository and
 created an extra source tarball, so that freemind consists of two
 different source tarballs now. I simply removed the old flash file from
 the old tarball. The flash browser is now built from source at build
 time by using the additional source tarball.

Personally I would just delete the SWF file from the source package
and be done with it. I think Debian should encourage our upstreams to
drop the Flash platform and replace their use of it with standard web
stuff (HTML5, CSS, JS), at least that has some chance of having
DFSG-free client support.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise


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