Re: [ANN] New metapackages layout
Ana Guerrero wrote: kde-standard: it is a new package, currently it is the same than kde-minimal. The goal of this package is installing what a ramdom user would expect in a desktop enviroment. The meta-package will contain this, as soon as we agree in what it should ship. :) The recommends method of installations is use kde-minimal and then use the apps you need/want. kde-standard will be for totally newbies users, that want a bit of everything in the beginning when they do not know what apps there are. With time they will learn what packages they want/need and just install them. Why not copy for kde-standard the Kubuntu desktop with just a change of the kubuntu branding for a Debian one ? Newbies could benefit from the vast pool of documentation available on the Web for Kubuntu. One can argue forever on what a good default is. Last time, I tried Kubuntu, I found it OK. Opensuse has also a nice default configuration. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [ANN] New metapackages layout
Ana Guerrero wrote: branding? Do you mean like desktop-base? Yes. I have not idea what is the kubuntu package you refer, could you be a bit more verbose? It is called kubuntu-desktop. It is what you get when you try the kubuntu livecd. The source package are here : - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/kubuntu-meta/1.122 - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kubuntu-default- settings/1:9.04.26 They have also a documentation package. And at this moment, i do not see why debian users could not benefit already of the documentation for kubuntu and viceversa :? If the KDE Debian Desktop has the same settings than Kubuntu, screenshots of desktop will look alike (same buttons at the same place on the taskbar, etc.). This kind of little things help computer illiterates. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Upgrading to KDE4 and Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard
Hello, I have upgraded my Debian sid box to KDE4. Thank you for the packaging work ! I have a USB Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard and upgrading to KDE4 (and maybe to the latest xorg) broke the keyboard mapping. For example, the 'Down' key is remapped to XF86Terminal. The only way to restore a correct behaviour is to run on the command line : setxkbmap -model cymotionlinux -layout fr But the wrong keyboard layout comes back when I restart KDE I have tried to change the keyboard layout in settings-Regional Settings without success. The problem is specific to KDE because the keyboard layout is fine when I start another WM I have tried to grep the .kde directory to find a problematic configuration file but without sucess. I'm wondering if it is a problem of configuration files or a KDE4 bug ? My xorg.conf keyboard section is : Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel cymotionlinux Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbVariantlatin9 EndSection Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Upgrading to KDE4 and Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard
Valerio Passini wrote: IMHO this is not KDE's fault, but X: probably you will notice that in terminal the console is working properly. In the last X version keyboard and mouse are managed differently (by evdev driver) and If this is your problem, you should remove every line related to mouse and keyboard from /etc/X11/xorg.conf and after configure console through: dpkg-reconfigure console-data. If you really need a different setup (evdev is not able to catch all the possible multimedia keys) you should tweak your xorg.conf to let X use the old drive. Bye Valerio Thank you for your answer. I have suppressed in xorg.conf the lines concerning the keyboard and it still does not work. In .xsessions-errors, I have this line : kxkb(3458) XKBExtension::setLayoutGroups: executing /usr/bin/setxkbmap - model evdev -layout fr -variant -option -option compose:lwin which has a wrong syntax, it should be : kxkb(3458) XKBExtension::setLayoutGroups: executing /usr/bin/setxkbmap - model evdev -layout fr -option compose:lwin Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Upgrading to KDE4 and Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard
Can you start from a brand new xorg.conf file? Just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it will produce a very essential xorg.conf. If you have nvidia or ATI card you can add the appropriate stanzas by copying/pasting from your old conf. Here it's mine (as an example): No. It does not work with your xorg.conf. But with your options, I get compositing and the desktop effects work ;-) Cheers, Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 3.5.7 in unstable and yes, we're working in KDE 4!
Ana Guerrero wrote: Hello, KDE 3.5.7 is being released today and it is already available in unstable. If you're using i386 the update should go fine, if you're using another arch, like amd64, some packages will not be available for your arch yet. Thanks for your work. Debian users are blessed with a great KDE packaging team. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problème de clavier
Gilles Pelletier wrote: [English follows] Je ne suis pas un développeur et je tenterai donc d'être bref. Je ne désire que souligner un problème que j'éprouve actuellement pour le choix de mon clavier avec Knoppix 5.01 et toutes les versions de Linux qui utilisent la dernière version de KDE. Je suppose que ce doit être la même chose pour Etch. Il y a deux claviers au Québec, Canada. Le plus ancien s'appelle CF, le plus récent CA. Ce dernier permet d'écrire certains caractères accentués comme àçè en une seule frappe. C'est celui que j'utilise et le choisir avait coutume d'être une sinécure. Dans la dernière version de KDE, toutefois, le clavier CA a disparu et le CF a été renommé CA. Si ce n'est pas du sabotage, je me demande bien ce que ça peut être. Il y a un menu déroulant qui permet de choisir une variante de disposition pour le clavier dans le module de KControl de configuration des claviers. Cela doit vous permettre de choisir votre type de clavier canadien en particulier le clavier multilingue. Cordialement, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound support under KDE
Matej Cepl wrote: 1) Are they? I mean is arts dead or going to die soon? Yes, arts is dead because is main developper left and nobody understands the stuff. Is in maintainance state. URLs for some documents explaining this mess would be more than welcome as well. http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Multimedia+API+Talk Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.4
Matej Cepl wrote: Andrew Ingram wrote: Hey list. Just a quick question. I've been hearing a lot about the progress of Xorg into Sid but not heard anything lately about KDE3.4 On Xorg note: what I miss from Xorg available on deb http://neo.wh-stuttgart.de/debian testing xorg (which otherwise work like a charm; THANK YOU!!!) is equivalent of xfree86-driver-synaptics -- it is a real pain to use Laptop without it. Is there maintainer of Xorg packages on this list? Could you compile even this stuff, or it is not available at Xorg? I'm using the xorg synaptics driver packaged on http://debian.linux-systeme.com Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.4 Help Center - Build Indices Bug
Ryan Nowakowski wrote: While building a search index for Help Center, I got this error: INDEXDIR: /home/ryan/.kde/share/apps/khelpcenter/index/ FINDCMD: find /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/ -name index.docbook Creating index for 'kde_application_manuals' find: /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/: No such file or directory htdig failed - Ryan Maybe because in Debian this file is in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en The packagers should then change the path to index.docbook I think Debian has a different hierarchy of help files than Red Hat based distributions. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.4: KDE 3.3.2 packages still floating around
Adeodato Simó wrote: ii kcmlinuz 3.3.2-1KDE Frontend for the Linux kernel configurat I'm not 100% sure about this one, Pierre (Habouzit) will know. Perhaps it's been dropped? I think I've read that it has been removed from KDE (unmaintained code that does not work) http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-develm=110723460016504w=2 Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xhost+ and Konsole
Hello, I'm running an uptodate KDE in Sid and I've noticed a small regression / bug in Konsole that have appeared lately. When I open a Konsole and type xhost+ and then open a second root tab in Konsole. I'm unable to start from this Konsole X applications as root. However, when I type in a Konsole xhost+ and then type su to become root. I can launch X applications from this Konsole. Does anyone has the same problem ? Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdevelop KDE
Le mercredi 9 Juin 2004 22:05, Marie Regine SAPIR a écrit : Hi, I tried to install some KDE packages from the KDE website, and now get these errors: Invalid entry (missing '=') at /usr/bin/designer:8 You should maybe look line 8 of the batch file /usr/bin/designer for a clue kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file /usr/bin/designer has no Name I think I've messed up KDE somehow, but I can't figure out what the problem is. I've tried uninstalling the packages and reinstalling the ones from the Debian site, but that didn't help. Somehow the more I try out ideas I find by googling, the more I seem to break things :-(( Marie-Regine Which version of Debian and which version of KDE do you use ? It looks like a problem of bad configuration files still laying on your computer. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Upgrading from 3.1.X to 3.2.2 : KDM not working anymore
Le mercredi 28 Avril 2004 16:23, Andrew Schulman a écrit : Does this happen for all users, or just charles? It happens just for charles, for other users (for example root) it works. I've tried dpkg --purge kdm and reinstalling it to get clean configuration files but it did not solve my problem. What is happening when I try to log with user charles is that the screen goes black for a second and kdm resets itself. So I guess, that after the authentification the X server crashes and resets itself. When I try to log through KDM with user charles, I get the /home/charles/.xsessions-error Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Protocol not supported by server xrdb: Can't open display ':0' ranting mode The day that Xfree has an easier configuration and meaningful error messages, Linux on the Desktop will be user friendly... /ranting mode Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Upgrading from 3.1.X to 3.2.2 : KDM not working anymore
Le jeudi 29 Avril 2004 16:19, Andrew Schulman a écrit : Charles, try removing your ~/.xsession, if you have one. I've been having the same trouble lately. I haven't finished figuring out why yet, but when I remove ~/.xsession it goes away. I had no ~/.xsession but I've finally solved my problem by 1) uninstalling kdm 2) installing xdm 4) log in as charles through xdm 5) reinstalling kdm Logging in through xdm must have cleared some weird configuration problem... It would be interesting to see if an upgrade from plain Woody (2.2) to Sarge (3.2.2) does not trigger problems with kdm. But who is still using KDE 2.2 ? Thank you for all of you who helped me Cheers, Charles BTW : I should be trying to interview the leader of an IT pilot project to create a Linux Desktop for employees of a big French bank. They are using Debian and KDE... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Upgrading from 3.1.X to 3.2.2 : KDM not working anymore
Hello, I've finally found time to upgrade my sid box from 3.1.x to 3.2.2. Everything worked fine except that KDM is not working anymore. KDM starts and I get the greeting screen but the login for a user fails and bring back the greeting screen. I have to do a console login and startx to launch KDE. I've tried the modification mentionned by Dominique Devriese to /etc/pam.d/kdm with no result /var/log/kdm.log is full of mentions like kdecore (KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon directory /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ group 48x48/stock/text not valid. which seems related to bug #241283 and should not be blocking In /var/log/syslog I have the following error message : Apr 28 12:31:37 zanzibar kdm_greet[669]: Can't open default user face Apr 28 12:31:49 zanzibar kdm_greet[701]: Can't open default user face and in /var/log/auth.log, I find the following messages : Apr 28 11:01:20 zanzibar kdm: :0[458]: (pam_securetty) access denied: tty ':0' is not secure ! Apr 28 11:01:20 zanzibar kdm: :0[458]: (pam_unix) session opened for user charles by (uid=0) Apr 28 11:01:21 zanzibar kdm: :0[458]: (pam_unix) session closed for user charles Apr 28 12:06:27 zanzibar kdm: :0[1040]: (pam_unix) session opened for user charles by (uid=0) Apr 28 12:06:29 zanzibar kdm: :0[1040]: (pam_unix) session closed for user charles Apr 28 12:23:19 zanzibar kdm: :0[435]: (pam_unix) session opened for user charles by (uid=0) Apr 28 12:23:19 zanzibar kdm: :0[435]: (pam_unix) session closed for user charles Apr 28 12:31:45 zanzibar kdm: :0[666]: (pam_unix) session opened for user charles by (uid=0) Apr 28 12:31:45 zanzibar kdm: :0[666]: (pam_unix) session closed for user Does anyone knows how to solve this problem ? Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Graphics in KDE 3.2
Le Mercredi 25 Février 2004 20:30, Bob Tilley (ATT) a écrit : There are many times that the appearance of KDE dialogs or other KDE windows are distorted. The dialogs may be too narrow for the text, borders may be misaligned by one pixel, the text-entry areas may not be sufficiently wide or tall for the size of the window (this is especially true on pop-up messages), or other subtle errors. The problem get even more complex with internationalization. The translation of an English string in French or German can be longer or shorter than the original and ruin the geometry of the dialog box. In no way am I trolling or otherwise insulting KDE. I was a Macintosh user back when the platform was based on the Motorola 68xxx (Mac, Mac Plus, Mac Centris) chip and now I use a home-built PC, Linux, and kernel 2.6. I have noticed these minor errors in KDE 3.2 and I'm sure they will be changed in future releases. It will be changed if they are bug reports filed. We have at KDE a new quality project : http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+Quality+Team that aim to adress the myriad of small quality problems that still exist in KDE and to help developers. Volunteering and adopting one of your pet KDE application as a janitor is a good way to contribute back even if you have little free time. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Build a sub package of kdenetwork (CIFS support in lisa)
Le Samedi 17 Janvier 2004 23:50, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen a écrit : On Saturday 17 January 2004 20:21, A.M.P. Boelens wrote: Does this help? From the Debian New Maintainers' Guide: 6.2 Quick rebuild fakeroot debian/rules binary Great! Thanks! I now have a working lisa with CIFS recognition on port 445, and added translation of the CIFS service name to the kio_smb protocol name SMB:/ Maybe I should submit a patch. You should definitely contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] maintainer of Lisa If you are interested in network configuration and KDE, do you know Tim Jansen's Knot (http://www.tjansen.de/knot/) a implementation of Zeroconf for KDE. It is a young project with a lot of potential for KDE and I guess for Debian. Tim is looking for developers. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: What's New in KDE 3.1.5?
Le Mercredi 14 Janvier 2004 09:19, Doug Holland a écrit : The past few days, I've been downloading lots of core KDE packages with version 3.1.5. Funny thing is that I haven't seen any announcements on the KDE web site or dot.kde.org or elsewhere, and I can't find a changelog for 3.1.5. My guess is that's it's just a bugfix release, but I'm curious as to exactly what bugs have been fixed. :D http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-announcem=107409233030447w=2 Security fix. There must be also some progress in internationalization packages. The French translation team made some grammatical corrections for 3.1.5 Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Recent bugs with accented characters
Hello, I'm using KDE 3.1.4 on unstable (XFree from unstable). After an upgrade several weeks ago, I've this annoying bug with accented characters. When I hit Alt-F2 gg:caractères accentués I'll get in Konqueror/Google caract?res accentu?s It used to work before. Can somebody else confirm this bug ? Any pointer to solve the problem will be appreciated. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Recent bugs with accented characters
Le Mercredi 19 Novembre 2003 15:34, Caoilte O'Connor a écrit : ditto, though I assumed it was because I switched the font to verdana at the same time. c On Wednesday 19 November 2003 14:00, Charles de Miramon wrote: Hello, I'm using KDE 3.1.4 on unstable (XFree from unstable). After an upgrade several weeks ago, I've this annoying bug with accented characters. When I hit Alt-F2 gg:caractères accentués I'll get in Konqueror/Google caract?res accentu?s It used to work before. Can somebody else confirm this bug ? Any pointer to solve the problem will be appreciated. Ok, I think the problem is related to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65378 A recent patch to QT has broken the translation from UTF 8 to 8bits for URI. A workaround for the Google stuff is to change the Web shortcut (Konqueror--settings) to take away the UTF8 stuff like that : http://www.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and put it in your encoding I'm wondering what should be done for Debian in KDE. Thiago Macieira is working on it but his patch will work only for 3.2 and Debian needs a solution for KDE 3.1.4 in Sarge. I cc him to have his feeling on this topic. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Kgroupware packages
Le Lundi 28 Juillet 2003 13:27, Raúl Alexis Betancort Santana a écrit : Anyone knows if there are Kgroupware packages around inet ?, I have CVS code, but I'm unable to compile it. Best regargs http://www.erfrakon.de/projects/kolab/download/ packages of the Kollab server for Woody. To my knowledge, the Kollab Kde Client has not been packaged for Debian. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Packaging very large i18n material
Le Lundi 9 Juin 2003 03:46, Ben Burton a écrit : 2) Build 37 different koffice-i18n-lang binary packages (like kde-i18n). I think it is the best short-term solution. The only long term solution would be to adapt the Debian packaging system for internationalization. Packager would create one metapackage for all the KOffice translation files packages and something like apt-get install --translation koffice would fetch the right translation package corresponding to my locale. Somebody told me that something like that would be an heretical assault to Debian Policy, but I did not really understood his argument. I've just installed Mandrake 9.1 on a laptop and I must say that it is very nice to have everything automatically in French when it is a pain in the neck to get a 'French' Debian (even if it is possible). Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: KDE 3.2 CVS - problems
Le Mardi 27 Mai 2003 20:02, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka a écrit : What am I to do now? Look in the source for the email of the developer (he is French but I don't remember his name) and send him your bug report. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Generated postscript only sans serif
Le Mercredi 21 Mai 2003 22:21, Michael Schuerig a écrit : When I print or generate a postscript file from Konqueror or KWrite, the result always ends up completely in sans serif (Helvetica?). On the german KDE newsgroup I've been told this is caused by a bug in Qt (something about a fixed array size) and that it was already fixed in/by SuSE. Have you switched on the option in kdeprint to embed fonts in postscript. Upgrading Cups tend to mess this option. It solved the problem for me. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: customizing desktop icons
Le Lundi 24 Mars 2003 15:50, Bernt Christandl a écrit : shell-script. How can i change this shell to another icon (the mozilla-dragon or the openoffice-gulls)? Very simple Right-click on the icon Select 'properties' On the property windows click on the icon and you'll get the dialog for selecting another icon. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: tabbed browsing with konqueror
Le Dimanche 23 Mars 2003 14:10, Ralf Nolden a écrit : Can you file this as a bugreport on bugs.kde.org please ? Then it gets fixed for KDE 3.2 (the 3.1 branch doesn't allow any string changes) Ralf Yes, but check first if it is a problem of the original English message or of the German translation. Maybe someone on the list who use KDE and Mozilla in English can give us some precise informations. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: KDE woody debs on CD ?
Le Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 13:29, Ralf Nolden a écrit : As commercial distros get less and their money shrinks so will their support for KDE in terms of employing people fulltime like Waldo. So I'm trying to find a way that will possibly lead us to the situation where the KDE project can finance itself better and maybe in a the future being able to employ developers. Ralf The easiest way to make a few euros is selling the Live KDE-CD at shows by volunteers. KDE-France made some money with it and I guess that KDE-Ev made some money at Cebit (using your packages). Selling CDs all around the world is a cumbersome task : you will need a EU VAT number, a way to clear the payments, somebody to mail the CD's, a Visa Card account. A lot of work for a very little amount of money. If we want to raise more money for KDE Ev, I think a much more interesting parth would be to ask money from the European Commission as we have a big majority of our programmers and users are from 'Old' Europe and that the RD programs are looking for truly European Programs to finance. But it is a bit offtopic to talk about that here, it is more a kde-promo topic. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: KDE meta-package suggestions
Le Lundi 17 Mars 2003 10:28, Ralf Nolden a écrit : You'll get that with apt-get install kdebase anyway :-) That's why I proposed to make it a metapackage for kdebase and kdm. There are in Debian : a x-system-core and a gnome-core. I would vote also for a kde-core so that the naming conventions are consistent across Debian. For Gnome : it looks like there are 3 main metapackages : gnome ; gnome-core ; gnome-core-devel Cheers Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Printing TT fonts from KDE Apps
Le Dimanche 16 Mars 2003 19:07, Bruce a écrit : I had also problem printing from Konqueror with screwed TT fonts. Finally, I found that setting in Kprinter the option 'Embed fonts in Postscript when printing' solved my problem. Maybe, you should try that. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: kdepim sid
Le Mercredi 12 Mars 2003 15:25, Marcin Juszkiewicz a écrit : I installed KMail from http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ but it doesn't have addressbook. Ok - so I tried to install kdepim package but it is not found :( Is there any respository with rest of KDE 3.1 packages for 'sid'? Add deb http://infobeam.lnix.net/mirror/grepper/pub/kdepim/ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list or wait that KDE 3.1.1 enters SID (better solution at the moment). You can read Chris Cheney report on the list. Thanks Chris for the report and your work. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: PyKDE packages?
Le Jeudi 13 Mars 2003 20:47, John Goerzen a écrit : Any idea on why PyKDE is not in sid, and when it might be? Is anyone working on it? -- John Jim Bublitz has not finished the PyKDE compatible with KDE 3.1 (http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/index.php). You can find information on the Debian packages of PyQT on http://people.debian.org/~rcardenes/ Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: kaddressbook in unstable?
Le Mardi 11 Mars 2003 14:09, Marco Feuerstein a écrit : Does anyone know where I can get kaddressbook for unstable? Thank you Marco Put : deb http://infobeam.lnix.net/mirror/grepper/pub/kdepim/ ./ in your /etc/apt/sources.list Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?
The rumor on IRC was that there is a license problem that holds kdenetwork getting into Debian. What are these license problems, I have no idea. To my knowledge, Chris Cheney has not posted on kde-policies or on any kde mailing lists on this topic. Sadly, it is not the first time that Chris Cheney has been incapable of communicating, cooperating with others and creating a team spirit. We still don't have a proper web site, Karolina's hard work is more or less wasted, progress on the Debian desktop initiative has been null and the prospect of a simple kde metapackage for easy installation for newbies seems a farfetched dream. A good maintainer for KDE in Debian should not only have good technical skills but be able to manage a team of fellows packagers, communicate to the users and power users for feedback, delegates some tasks. Ralf Nolden is good at it, Ivan Moore was good at it. Chris is much younger and don't have this experience, maybe he can learn. Indeed, if he wants to have a successfull career in IT after University, learning to be a good team manager should be his priority as it looks like it is its main weakness. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?
Le Mardi 4 Mars 2003 16:35, Karolina Lindqvist a écrit : There are packaging bugs (*blush*) and unique debian bugs. But I have fixed those I found, last week. I will also build KDE 3.1.1, as soon as it is out, maybe next week. And in between I am building more applications, or rebuilding for new upstreams versions. Karolina Are you adamant Karolina to work on you own set of packages or would you be ready if there is a correct agreement with Chris Cheney to work on a common official set of packages ? I do understand that for learning purpose it can be nicer to work on your own but for the community, duplicating work when we have a shortage of capable packagers like you seems some kind of a waste. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: two questions about localisation of kde
Le Dimanche 2 Mars 2003 14:36, Wolfgang Mader a écrit : hello, i wondered how to type scpecial characters like you have in france or spain. for example the e with graph. Have you tried kcharselect ? If you type é,à, ê seldom it is maybe the easier way to do it. Being able to type foreign characters on your German keyboard mean modifying the X keyboard. Look man xmodmap. Disclaimer, I've never been able to tweak xmodmap the way I want. It is certainly not very user friendly. Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: My ITP on k3b
Le Jeudi 20 Février 2003 04:43, Jean-Michel Kelbert a écrit : Le 19/02/03 à 17:22 Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait : Please feel welcome to package k3b separately. Ok. I will package it ! I also notice that there is a separate source file for locales. So there'll be two packages. I think it is a little bit stupid, but I can't merge uptsream sources ! On top of that the upstream configure require too much stuff for building locale (like qt for example). I've will package it after my mid-term exams next week. Do you know that there are two scripts called cvs2dist / cvsextract to help packagers to merge sources and translations. If you have problem packaging k3b don't hesitate to mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] These scripts are not documented very much except on the archives of the kde-extra-gear mailing list. There is a French uptodate translation of k3b, it would be nice if French speaking debian users get it. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Bug#181009: ITP: koffice-i18n -- i18n files for koffice
Le Samedi 15 Février 2003 14:04, Ben Burton a écrit : If koffice-i18n is packaged as a single massive binary package, it means that as (say) a German speaker, I'd have to download what appears to be at least 8 megabytes worth of i18n package just to get my 200k of German translations. Another point of view would be to push Debian to have a global solution for translation packages and have some intelligence in apt so that apt-get install koffice will install automatically the translation package corresponding to your locale and have a new option in apt like apt-get install -translation=de kmail But Daniel Stone wrote an e-mail saying that this kind of behaviour would violate Debian Policy. I still don't understand really why it is such an heresy but it must be my ignorance. But it doesn't solve your problem now. My point of view is to create separates i18n packages for koffice because of the different release cycles even if it adds to the entropy of Debian repositories. Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Bug#181009: ITP: koffice-i18n -- i18n files for koffice
Le Dimanche 16 Février 2003 20:03, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : Hmm, not practical at all, since root does not have the same locale(s) as all users and the locale package is no base package. why, if I am root with a French locale ? apt-get install koffice will install koffice and the French i18n package and if I have also a German user on my computer apt-get install -translation=de koffice install also the German i18n package. An automatic solution for the majority and a manual option for the minority. Getting a French Debian today means following a howto and reconfiguring bash, X and KDE plus getting the correct fonts... It could be easier and more user- friendly. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: kmail within kde3.1 on sid ?
I tracked down what it was (I have a few PowerPCs on hand), and smacked it down. A fixed Qt has since been uploaded. Thankyou Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: ACK! Blew up my KDE and need help in San Francisco!
Le Jeudi 6 Février 2003 21:43, Pietro Calogero a écrit : Downloaded KDE 3.1 .debs from KDE.org, including packages.gz, created similar directory structure on local HD. Why are you downloading the debs on your hd. If you have a fast internet connection ? You should add a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list with kde.org. Creating a local debian mirror on your hd is done by people who have a fast internet connection at work and a dial up connection at home. They download at work, burn the packages and copy them on their home computer. In your case with a notebook, I don't see the point ? Cannot get dselect to install single packages without it returning an error. Cannot get online using Mozilla in GNOME; don't even know how to diagnose failure (ifconfig shows eth0 working correctly, pon dsl-provider seems to work) Connect to your provider and try from the command line to ping 192.25.206.10 if that doesn't work anf ifconfig -a shows a working internet connection, it must be your route that is not set well, try to see what route says. In most linux manual there is information on routing and how to set it. try then ping www.debian.org if it doesn't work, it means that you have not set the DNS server of your provider correctly. If ping works but connections by tcp (for example browsing fails), the reason is certainly that the mtu value is wrong. If you do ifconfig -a, you'll see a entry mtu in your eth0 line with a value, normally by default 1500. But certain dsl provider will work with a different value (for my provider it is 1492). Try finding the correct mtu on your provider website or helpline and do man ifconfig to learn how to change the mtu of your ethernet connection. Good luck, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Questions about language-env
Le Samedi 1 Février 2003 21:20, Niklaus Giger a écrit : Off-topic but I was wondering what language you are speaking when your family get together : French, Swiss-German, German, Korean? Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: kdeextragear-1 not in i18n
Le Dimanche 2 Février 2003 21:32, Henning Moll a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi! It seems that localisation for kdeextragear is missing in kde-i18n-de (maybe also in packages for other languages...). So, some kde applications are only available in english at the moment... Regards Henning Kdeextragear is a mess for translators. There is no freeze of messages for the module and each application goes its own way. Unless kdeextragear follows a proper release cycle there is no way that you can get good quality translations. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Fresh Debian Stable install with nolden Woody - Small comments
Le Samedi 25 Janvier 2003 18:59, Michael Peddemors a écrit : Just a few notes .. Thought I would try an install as if I was a typical debian newbie.. And take notes along the way. Installed Debian Base. Did an 'apt-get update','apt-get upgrade' I find I can't do anything unless I can edit/look at files so I did a quick 'apt-get vim less' Now, I added the nolden source, and did another 'apt-get update' Okay, now I decide I need mail, so 'apt-get kmail' Hmm, okay in theory kmail can work like that, but as a user on a personal pc, it won't so did an 'apt-get xserver-svga' and went through the dpkg. I think that a newbie should use tasksel and not apt for installing KDE. So It would be better to lobby for a KDE-Workstation task in tasksel that would automatically install X before KDE than creating dependencies in the packages. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Problemas con konsole / Problems with Konsole
Le Vendredi 3 Janvier 2003 01:06, Daniel Alonso a écrit : --spanish version Hola. Utilizo kde 3.0.4 en una Debuian sid... despues de una actualizacion, cuando intentaba iniciar konsole me daba un error. Os pongo debajo el output, a ver si me podeis echar una mano. Gracias. un saludo. You have to downgrade your version of libqt. The new version in Sid doesn't work with 3.0.4. look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if you can still find the old deb packages and reinstall them with dpkg You will also have to change your /etc/apt/preferences to forbid upgrading. Read the archives of this list, the solution was mentioned last week. Feliz nuevo año con KDE !! Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: deb line for French users in sources.list
Le Mercredi 1 Janvier 2003 22:55, Philippe MERLIN a écrit : I would like dowload KDE3.05a but the line deb http ://download.fr.kde.org/.. answer unknown site What is correct line for french user? Thanks. And HAPPY NEW YEAR Il n'y a pas encore beaucoup de miroirs de download.kde.org et pour l'instant il n'en existe pas pour la France. S'il existe un jour, il se dénommera download.fr.kde.org Mais tu peux utiliser n'importe quel miroir par exemple download.us.kde.org ou download.de.kde.org car l'ensemble des paquetages se trouvent sur les miroirs et en particulier le paquetage de la traduction française. Bonne année avec KDE, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: KDE 3.0.5a Packages for Woody uploaded
Le Dimanche 22 Décembre 2002 23:22, Ralf Nolden a écrit : Merry Christmas, Thanks Ralf and Merry Christmas Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: kaplan
Le Dimanche 8 Décembre 2002 22:35, Tom Badran a écrit : Using karolinas 3.1 debs, is it possible to get kaplan to do anything? When i run it it just returns to the konsole, and --help gives no indication that there are any options i can pass to it. Ive seen some screen shots of it running and it seems quite nice, any ideas? Thanks Tom To my knowledge. Kaplan in 3.1 is just a framework, a proof of concept but it doesn't really 'work'. In CVS there is a heavy activity around KMail to merge in HEAD the enhancements of the Kroupware project and of Don Sanders Make-it-cool branch (the Kaplan stuff). For the time being, it looks a bit broken but maybe in a few weeks you could try to compile. Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: suid root?
There is a useful and comprehensive doc for sudo here : http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/sudo.php Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: KDE3.1 release?
If not is there a good reason for it to me missing, or is there a problem with it that needs fixing? To my knowledge, Kdebindings is just a place on KDE CVS where developpers can put software to create bindings or store bindings. Mature bindings for a specific language should be packaged individually. For example PyQT and PyKDE for Python are packaged by Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina part of them are in the Debian archive and part in his private archive look here for the line to put in /etc/apt/sources.list http://lists.kde.org/?l=pykdem=103815860721968w=2 Something for the Debian / KDE FAQ... The new Eric3 integrated IDE for Python and KDE looks like hot stuff. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: KDE3.1 release?
Upto last week, the release schedule site was updated regularly as the schedule slipped. This week, however, there has been no update. The last entry still lists Nov 18th as the decision date for the final release. To my knowledge, RC4 packaged by Dirk Mueller on the 19th is going to be the final. Packaging final should happen soon (or has already happen) and after that it is one or two weeks for the packagers to create the binaries and for Andreas Pour to write the press release. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: kde-i18n , help
3.I want to use kmail but have problems with kaddressbook: - columns are very small and not changable with save This is fixed in KDE 3.1 - how can I export addresses and import this file on another PC? Now, just move the file and use the unix command line tools. The addressbook stores its data in vcard format a common standard so you should get good interoperability with others applications - where is the datafile of addresses located ? Look ~/.kde/share/apps/kab Kab is the back-end for the adressbook and Kadressbook is the front-end There has been a lot of work on Kaddressbook for the 3.1 version. Everything is not perfect but we have made a lot of progress. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Integration of i18n packages in KDE meta-package
Hi, Discussing the Debian-Desktop project, one remark was that Debian has a bad support for language other than English. Ideally, when a user type apt-get install kde, s(he) should get auto-magically the right i-18n package for his or her language or gracefully fall bak to English. I was wondering (well, it is more a hint for our Nordic power team of Yenar and Carolina) if it is technically possible to create a dependancy in kde to a pseudo-package kde-i18n that would find the locale of the user and download the appropriate package. There is still the problem when there are multiple locales on a single box but I guess it is quite rare and then the administrator should know how to install manually the supplementary packages. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Can't find X includes ( kdeartswork problem )
Le Vendredi 25 Octobre 2002 15:42, suresh kumar sharma a écrit : Hi, I have a debian 2.4.19 and kde 3.0.3 running on my laptop, I was trying to install kdeartworks, but when I ran the ./configure file It says can't find X includes . this is the error message I get . ## checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! ## I guess you are missing the xlibs-dev package. If you are building a package from source, do you know this useful feature of apt. apt-get build-dep kdeartwork will automagically install all the packages needed for building kdeartwork. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Rebuilding kdelibs for Sid
Hello, I'm trying to rebuild kdelibs without the ipv6 option. I've downloaded the source package (apt-get source kdelibs) I've downloaded the build dependencies (apt-get build-dep kdelibs) I've changed the file /debian/rules But when I run dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b I get this error message and the compilation abort : configure.in:1760: error: m4_popdef: undefined macro: AC_Dest autoconf/status.m4:844: AC_CONFIG_FILES is expanded from... configure.in:1760: the top level autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 Looking on Google, it seems to be related to an incompatible version of autoconf. My autoconf version is 2.54 and automake version 1.5 Does anybody has a clue how to make it work ? Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: alsamixer error ... CONTINUED .
Le Lundi 14 Octobre 2002 16:58, suresh kumar sharma a écrit : hi charles, install process of alsa went fine with out any error, so I did not run alsaconf. and I ran ./snddevices also that also ran success fully. but I stillkeep getting the same errors. logout of X and KDE to a pure console. Try alsamixer there and playing a sound with aplay. Try doing that as a user and as root to see if it is not a permission problem Alsa is very tricky to set up on Debian... :-( Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: alsamixer error.
Le Samedi 12 Octobre 2002 20:29, suresh kumar sharma a écrit : hi, I Re installed ALSA on my system. everything went fine. but when I tried using amixer I got this error. ### ALSA lib control.c:601:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory ### Did alsaconf worked on your system ? Does running the script /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/examples/snddevices of any help ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Question about upgrade KDE 3.0.4
First Question: Does KDE 3.0 really work with Debian (I rather suspect something that hasn't made it into Debian's STABLE source yet). KDE 3.0.4 works well on Debian and is in my opinion more stable than KDE 2.2. I think you should upgrade if you use your computer mainly as a Desktop. If you use it as a server and use KDE only to fire some xterms. Maybe, you can wait. Second Question: Can anyone tell me how to properly set DSELECT to a valid source? Alternatively, if I have to download and compile myself (usually through the make series or whatever), do I have to do anything else to properly register KDE 3.0 with APT/APT-GET/DSELECT so that I don't find KDE downgraded sometime later? - Mike The easiest way is to dist-upgrade to sid and follow the instructions on http://www.davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.html and related links. Remember that you must first remove completely KDE 2 before installing KDE 3. These faqs have not been updated for the new apt line for KDE 3.0.4. which is for sid : deb http://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.4/Debian/sid ./ (you can change uk for another code country and sid to woody) Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: apt denies upgrade to KDE3? Help :..(
It looks like a pinning problem : Try apt-cache policy kmail That will give you the different pin values for your different deb sources. Modify your /etc/apt/preferences file accordingly. It can be a bit tricky, especially that there is no parsing of the preferences file to tell you that you have done some typographical mistakes. Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: apt denies upgrade to KDE3? Help :..(
O.k. here is the result: # apt-cache policy kmail kmail: Installed: 4:2.2.2-14.1 Candidate: 4:2.2.2-14.1 Version Table: 4:3.0.4-1 0 500 http://download.uk.kde.org woody/ Packages *** 4:2.2.2-14.1 0 900 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages -10 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:2.2.2-14.0woody1 0 500 http://security.debian.org woody/updates/main Packages Is there any way to see, what pinning might be entered for a specific apt source? Package pinning to specific packages is not possible, since they have nothing common in their names. Anything I could enter as archive name (a=), origin name (o=), component name (c=) or label (l=) for that KDE3 mirror? Your problem is that the testing debian archive has a pin value of 900 and download.uk.ke.org has a pin value of 500. So apt-get will always try to fetch the kde packages on testing and not where you want. Put something like that in your preferences file : Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 333 that will lower the pin value for the testing archive and make everything sweet as milk. Try ap-get update and apt-cache policy kmail to see if it works. By the way, why do you mix Sid, Sarge and Woody ? It looks to me like a recipe for problems. Go for an all-sid box or an all-woody box. When Kde 3.x enters the Debian archive you can go back to Sarge. But before it happens, I don't see the point of your configuration ? Grüss, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: My KDE Headaches
Hi Rob, It is very difficult to help you but my guess is that you have hardware problems. I used at one point to have strange freezes of my computer and I cursed everybody : Linux, Xfree, KDE, Mandrake (that I was using at this time) for my problem to discover later by running memtest86 an entire night (apt-get install memtest86) that one of my memory chips was faulty. Try to look in the different /var/log/ files and see if you can find any information send by Xfree, the kernel or KDE before crashing that could lead you to the cause of your problem. If you are doing any overclocking, disable it. It can also bring strange crashes. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Konqueror + Debian + IPv6?
Le Samedi 12 Octobre 2002 19:56, Felix Homann a écrit : Hi, some webpages take extraordinary long time to load in Konqueror (all the 3.0.x versions) on Debian (e.g. www.golem.de) while they load fast in Mozilla or Konqueror on SuSE. On my computer to Konqueror (3.0.4) loads much slower www.golem.de that Mozilla 1.1 Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: html documentation for kde
It might be useful for some, but is it useful enough to warrant separate packages for it? You can also find the documentation (but only in English) at docs.kde.org. Maybe, we should ask Lauri Watts to add the option to download a documentation in HTML format for local browsing. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Compiling KBabel 1.0.2 for KDE 3.0.3
install libdb2-dev Thanks it worked. If somebody wants a crude .deb package of KBabel 1.0beta2 for Sid / KDE 3.0.3, please contact me Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: To CVS experts
Le Samedi 21 Septembre 2002 12:05, Paolo Ulivi a écrit : Can someone please spell me the cvs commands to obtain this results ? Have you tried cvsup ? I'm no cvs expert either and that is what I use to retrieve the kde-i18n module from cvs. There is a cvsup package in Debian (apt-get install cvsup), it is quite userfriendly and low ressource on bandwith. http://developer.kde.org/source/cvsup.html explains how to set up the cvsup client Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Project planning sofware for KDE3 + Debian testing?
Le Dimanche 22 Septembre 2002 21:45, Rachel Andrew a écrit : Hi I have just installed KDE3 on Debian testing - the various instructions I found posted on the web as a result of searching here helped tremendously. Anyway, with KDE2.2 I was using a package called KFocus to do simple project planning, that doesn't appear to have a version for KDE3 and I wondered if anyone had any recommendations for similar applications? TIA Rachel As far asI know, there is no stable KDE Project management application. The development of KPlato is going very slowly... Maybe you should look the Gnome Mrproject or Toutdoux If your need is just sorting your working day between different tasks, look karm and KOrganizer, maybe it is all you need. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Fwd: Re: KDE debs building
Hi Ralf, Sorting the 'mess'of KDE packages on Debian will be a very nice achievement. I would just like to point a specific problem for the KDE translators. When, like now, we are working on KDE 3.1, we need to have a CVS version of KDE to check the new applications and see in context the strings to be translated. Translators are generally not developpers, have slow computers, and not the skill to compile from CVS. For our use, Macolu (http://matthieu.robin.free.fr/linux/) has created some debs of KDE CVS version that can be installed side by side with a stable KDE in /opt/kde3cvs. You have to create a special user to use these debs and can use on the same box a stable and a experimental KDE. I think it would be nice and very useful to have a system like that that can create experimental snapshots debs of KDE (with names like kdebase-CVS, etc...) and generate stable debs when a new stable version comes out. By this way, Debian could become the reference distribution for the people (artists, translators, people writing documentation, bughunters, etc.) that need bleeding edge KDE but are unable or unwilling to compile from CVS. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: Problems printing from Konqueror
I found the solution to my problem (which had nothing to do with KDE) Upgrading to SID had the unfortunate side-effect of uninstalling the printer drivers package from www.linuxprinting.org cupsomatic-ppd and me losing the driver for my printer. I reinstalled the cupsomatic-ppd package and reconfigured the printer and it now works back. Cheers, Charles
Problems printing from Konqueror
Hello, I'm running a uptodate Sid and KDE 3.0.3 with Cups and I have a bug when printing a HTML page from Konqueror that I didn't have in KDE 3.0.1. The print preview is correct but when I print the top and the bottom of the page is partly cut out. I guess the problem is that Konqueror tries to create a 'letter' size page when my paper is A4 size. Does anyone have experimented the same problem ? A friend running KDE 3.0.3 on Mandrake doesn't seem to have the printing problem so maybe it is package dependent or something weird in my configuration files or some bad interaction of gs / cups / kde. Cheers, Charles -- Charles de Miramon Centre de Recherches Historiques Laboratoire EHESS / CNRS 54, bd Raspail 75270 Paris Cedex 06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ehess.fr/centres/gahom/Miramonbiblio.htm
Cursor vanished in KMail
Hello, I can confirm the vanishing cursor in KMail for KDE 2.2 .2. Switching virtual desktop brings back the cursor. Cheers, Charles -- Charles de Miramon Centre de Recherches Historiques Laboratoire EHESS / CNRS 54, bd Raspail 75270 Paris Cedex 06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ehess.fr/centres/gahom/Miramonbiblio.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
