Re: new kdm
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:06:26 CST. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] After last nights upgrade, I could no longer log in through kdm, whereas I could before. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't ever become a pessimist, Ira; a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun- and neither can stop the march of events. - Robert A. Heinlein - Time Enough For Love
can no longer log out
Since doing an apt-get update/upgrade yesterday, I can no longer log out. When I do the screen simply goes blank. I logged into a regular test console and did a ps -ef, and there were a bunch of Xreset and Xreset_0 processes running... what's more, every time I would run ps again, there would be a bunch of differect Xreset's under different process numbers! They are respawned so fast that the only thing I can do is reboot. I use potato with xfree86 3.3.6, kernel 2.2.18, and kde 2.1. I always have 2 kdm sessions running on 2 displays... in order to accomplish that a couple of the files in /etc/X11/kdm had to be modified slightly. Do note that the settup had been working just fine for quite some time before yesterday, so I don't think that it's the config files, unless they needed to be changed by yesterday's upgrade and weren't or something. Any help here would be greatly appreciated, as this is something of a major problem. Thanks. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emacs is a nice OS - but it lacks a good text editor. That's why I am using Vim. - Anonymous
Re: Memory usage
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:18:25 CST. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look at KDE's process management program (under the system menu), or a program like qps (which is what KDE's program is based on). It will show you in much better detail just how your memory is being used. In particular, the control center memory listing simply shows all memory that has been allocated to something, but if you look at qps or whatever, you will see that a large part of that is buffer or cache memory. The kernel will try to allocate as much cache space as possible... so most of you memory will appear to be used up if you include that. Actual program usage will be less, however. On my computer I have two x sessions open, both with kde 2.1, for a total program usage of 50 mb. I just installed kde 2.1 on my Potato desktop, but it seems to run slowly. It's a 300 mhz celeron, so I don't expect it to be too fast, but under Memory in the control center it reports 125 of the total physical 128 mb of ram being used, even when no applications are open. If I open konquerer of some other memory-intensive app the numbers fluctuates up and down a little bit. What's going on? Is it supposed to be like this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Tis strange--but true; for truth is always strange, stranger than fiction. - Bryron, Don Juan
klauncher crashes
Here's a potential 2.1 bug: Every single time I log out, klauncher crashes with a signal 11 (I think). Every time... it's very consistant. And it's not something that happened before the upgrade. Anybody else experiencing this? I use pototo on i386, 2.2.18 kernel, kde 2.1. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] The mind of man is capable of anything--because everything is in it, all the past as well as all the future. - Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness
Re: New KDE packages ...
In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:56:15 +0100. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try apt-get dist-upgrade. That should get most if not all of those packages installed. At least, it did for me. Hello all, I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelib s3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg -l |grep kde shows: ii kde-i18n-uk2.1-final-1uk i18n files for KDE ii kdeadmin 1.1.2-final-1 tools for adminstration written for KDE ii kdebase2.0.1-0.potato KDE core applications ii kdebase-doc2.1-final-0.po Documentation for Applications in kdebase ii kdebase-libs 2.0.1-0.potato KDE libraries amd modules for kdebase ii kdegames 1.1.2-2425 KDE games collection ii kdegraphics1.1.2-2425 KDE collection of graphics programs. ii kdelibs2g 1.1.2-final-1 KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdelibs2g-dev 1.1.2-final-1 KDE core libraries (development files) ii kdelibs3 2.0.1-0.potato KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdemultimedia 1.1.2-2425 KDE multimedia package ii kdenetwork 1.1.2-final-1 KDE mail and news clients ii kdenetwork-dev 1.1.2-final-1 KDE networking libraries (development file s) ii kdepasswd 2.0.1-0.potato A Password changer frontend for KDE ii kdesupport0g 1.1.2-final-1 mime, uuencode and QwSpriteField library - r ii kdetoys1.1.2-2425 some toys for the KDE ii kdeutils 1.1.2-2330 collection of useful kde utilities ii kdewallpapers 2.1-final-0.po Some wallpapers for KDE And finally, cat /etc/apt/sources.list gives: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-fr ee deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian/ potato main crypto optional qt1apps Rhen I tried to reinstall task-kde-dev, but: * first: what package will be choosen between the following: task-kde-devel_2.0.1-0.potato5_all.deb task-kde-devel_2.1.3_all.deb as I type apt-get install task-kde-devel * then, I got the following error: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-kde: Depends: kformula but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages And trying to fix it with apt-get -f install, I have: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. ??? Strange. Any idea ? Thx in advance ... Rlep -- Molkoz mais je nariive po a passer de commence dans le but de passer des parametre au noyau Ariane je comprend pas ta phrase Molkoz bon je vois ke vous chercher tous a m'aider -+- Molkoz has left #linuxfr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - #linuxfr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] g -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any event, once it has occurred, can be made to appear inevitable by a competent historian. - Lee Simonson
kdeinit
Does anybody know how to control what kdeinit loads? Does it use a config file (which would the sane thing to do, IMHO), or is everything hardwired in? There are several applications that I don't want loaded, but I can't figure out how to control that. If anybody knows of any documentation for kdeinit, that would be helpful as well. Thanks. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
xauth and 2.1
I'm running potato with XFree86 3.3.6, and just upgraded to kde 2.1. The problem the I'm having is that xauth suddenly doesn't work anymore... in root's .bashrc file I have the following line: xauth -f ~/.Xauthority merge /home/$USER/.Xauthority This had allowed me to run x applications after using su... but now it just doesn't work. Anybody have any clue as to why upgrading to 2.1 would change this, or how to fix it? I'm at kind-of a loss here. Thanks. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe in God, only I spell it Nature. - Frank Lloyd Wright
Re: Desktop disappears, everything else works
In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:04:08 CST. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This exact same thing happened to me this morning as well. I use potato without the beta packages, and last night I did a routine apt-get update/upgrade. Clearing things out of /tmp as suggested did not work. Also, the upgrade removed qps (which I use extensively) due to dependency problems. KDE's port of qps does not work properly... so does anybody know how I can get qps reinstalled? Is it possible to have libqt2 (which qps depends on) and libqt2.2 on the same machine? Or will qps work with libqt2.2, in which case maybe it's dependencies need to be revised? I've got a strange problem. This morning, when I logged in through kdm, kde started up, but the background was (still is) a neutral beige instead of the wallpaper I've been using for months. Also, no desktop icons show up, and no menus show up when I click on the desktop area (they should, shouldn't they?) I've opened up konqueror, and hit the Desktop icon, which shows everything that should be ON my desktop. Looking at the properties for that icon, it says that the last time the directory was modified, accessed and created was yesterday at the time I logged off yesterday. The rest of my home directory shows normal information like a creation date that comes many days/weeks/months before the last accessed or modified. That's my only clue. I'm running potato, and using all but the optional section from kde.rap.ucar.edu. The only change I can recall making yesterday, is removing that optional section from my sources.list file, and removing and re-installing ssh, so that it's version would match my firewall's ssh version. Re-adding that section and doing an apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade --download-only gives me the version of ssh that I replaced yesterday, and nothing else. I've tried stopping kdm and removing all of the /tmp files created by kde, but that had no affect. -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it. - Dick Cavett
qps and libqt2.2
Ivan, I don't know who maintains qps, but it does run under libqt2.2 just fine. If you know who they, perhaps you could ask them to update it's dependency rules. Anyway, thanks for your help with the disapearing desktop thing. I for one definately appreciate the work that you do for debian's KDE packages and the timeliness of your help when issues like this come up. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] A jury consists of twelve persons chosen to decide who has the better lawyer. - Robert Frost
Re: window errors
In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:03:33 +0100. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know which /dev file you have, but it definately won't correspond to i810, which is your graphics chip set. KDE2 requires a graphics library package to be installed which corresponds to your graphics accelerator card, such as mesag3 (look under the requirements for kdebase). You need to find the one you need and make sure that it's configured properly... including the permissions for any /dev files it uses. Hope this helps. the problem is i don't have a device called i810 (that's what it should be i guess)... do you know how i can find out, which device is used ?? peter On Wednesday 21 February 2001 17:26, you wrote: In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:52:01 +0100. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know if this will help, but I had problems with vertical lines for a while as well. I fixed it by changing the permissions for /dev/3dfx (I have a 3dfx card) to 666, such that regular users have both read and write access to it. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
knotify starts against my will
In order to conserve memory (which is in short supply) and to speed up the startup process, I tried to disable knotify by commenting out its entry in the /usr/bin/kde2 script. The problem is that knotify starts up anyway, via kdeinit. How can I disable it? I don't even know what's starting it. IMHO, optional programs (such as knotify) should only be started automatically from the kde2 startup script, so that we can choose to disable them if we wish. Thanks for your help. (By the way, I'm using kde 2.01.) -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they are open. - Sir James Dewar, Scientist (1877-1925)
