Re: Public Domain for Germans

2008-11-11 Thread Jens Peter Secher
2008/11/3 Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[...]
 This also doesn't disclaim warranty,
 which might be dangerous for someone distributing programs.


Is there actually any evidence (ie., court decision) to support this?


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A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion.
Q. Why is top posting bad?


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Re: Bootstrapping from binary blob shipped in the source package

2008-07-31 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Florian Weimer wrote:

 Some packages (notably compilers) avoid cyclic build dependencies by
 shipping some sort of pre-compiled blob in the source package.  This
 blob is then used to compile the package.

 Does this fullfil the requirement that packages in main must be built
 from source code?

Where exactly is this requirement?

Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is nothing wrong with using a precompiled compiler to bootstrap
 the package in Debian, but after there is a working package in the
 archive it should not be used anymore (for reliability issues, not
 freedom issues).

What do you mean by reliability here?  From a package-building
perspective, I find it to be more reliable to use the precompiled blop
because then I can make sure that the package compiles in a minimal
environment.  Otherwise I need to depend on a *specific* prior version
of the compiler, thus making the build more fragile (think Ubuntu), or
I need to depend on a wide range on prior versions of the compiler,
making testing much harder.

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Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-08 Thread Jens Peter Secher
On 03/09/2007, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Le dimanche 02 septembre 2007 à 13:46 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
  No, GFDL'ed stuff got approved before a few people managed to change the
  DFSG by disguising that as editorial changes.

 Only you and Anthony Towns believe the changes were not editorial.

Just for the record, I also believe and believed that it was not an
editorial change.

(BTW, I voted for it because I think it makes no sense to try to draw
a line between programs and other kinds of data)
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Q. Why is top posting bad?



Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-03 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Markus Törnqvist wrote:

  Also, if every software showed their credits, there would easily be
  a ton of them.
 
 This is bad why?  They could be interesting for users to read while
 the install proceeds.

Indeed, it would be far more interesting to read credits instead of a
boring list of URIs.

Hmm, come to think of it, if the credits were simply scrolled up with
every package installed, the length of each individual credit would
naturally be limited, and thus probably avoid excessively long credits.

Would that be a working solution?
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Re: Squeak in Debian?

2004-04-24 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Roland Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nathanael Nerode wrote:

 It also has a forced-distribution clause for modifications;  I can't make
 modifications and give them to my wife without publishing them to the whole
 world. [...]

 Interesting discovery! But which part of the DFSG is violated here?

See eg.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200303/msg00405.html
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Re: Debian Legal summary of the Petris license (Proposed)

2004-02-27 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 

 You can do whatever you want with the program, it's Public Domain.
 (however, it would be nice of you to credit me if you found anything
 of this useful).

 

 We believe that this software is DFSG-free.

The summaries are a good idea, but this is overdoing it, don't you think?
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Re: Bug#226232: ITP: glucas -- Mersenne prime testing program

2004-01-06 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Aaron Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 
   Package name: glucas
   Version : 2.90
   Upstream Author : Guillermo Ballester Valor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   URL : http://glucas.sourceforge.net/
   License : GPL v2
   Description : Mersenne prime testing program
 
 Glucas tests Mersenne numbers (2^P-1) for primality using the
 Lucas-Lehmer method. It can be used to participate in the Great
 Internet Mersenne Prime Search (http://www.mersenne.org)

What exactly is glucas relation to GIMPS, especially the non-free terms
decribed in http://www.mersenne.org/prize.htm ?
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Re: modification notification requirements, and Who To Write Your License For

2003-04-12 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So, please, write licenses for the audience at (3).
  ( someone [who] is pretty neutral about software licensing
and this whole community concept )
 
 Isn't the GPL essentially a counterexample?  It was written with legal
 counsel, and many people have criticised it for it complexity.

Yes, but I think Branden is giving (splendid) advice to people writing
*new* licenses.  If the GPL suits *your* needs, by all means, use it.
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Moscow ML (mosml) not even allowed in non-free?

2002-10-14 Thread Jens Peter Secher
I have provided an unofficial deb package[1] of Moscow ML (an ML
compiler) for some time now, but it has licensing problems.

According[2] to Torsten Landschoff, there was a discussion of this
matter on this list, but I cannot seem to find it.  Is there anyone
who can give me pointers to the discussion?  

I am negotiating a lincense change with the authors of some components
of the software, so it would be handy to be able to point to the discussion...

[1] http://www.diku.dk/~jpsecher/debian.html
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=111560repeatmerged=yes

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