Re: Ask about the license "permissive"

2017-01-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 at 01:33:04 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
[I wrote]
> > Permissive licenses typically need to be quoted in full in the Debian
> > copyright file.
> 
> Any licence regardless of its conditions (permissive, copyleft or even 
> nonfree), except the following ones, should be quoted in full, is not it?
> 
> ,[ $ ls /usr/share/common-licenses/ ]
> | Apache-2.0  BSD   GFDL-1.2  GPLGPL-2  LGPLLGPL-2.1
> | ArtisticGFDL  GFDL-1.3  GPL-1  GPL-3  LGPL-2  LGPL-3
> `

Correct. The original BSD license is one example of a permissive license.

S



Re: Ask about the license "permissive"

2016-12-30 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 at 20:50:10 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
>> > There is "permissive" used as name. Is this the correct name of the
>> > license?
>> 
>> It look like a simplified variation on so called ‘Historical
>> Permission Notice and Disclamer’ [0][1].  It is indeed a lax permissive
>> licence, so I see no problem.
>
> To be clear, there is probably no canonical name for this license. It
> is one of many permissive licenses, rather than being "the Permissive
> License".
>
> Permissive licenses typically need to be quoted in full in the Debian
> copyright file.

Any licence regardless of its conditions (permissive, copyleft or even 
nonfree), except the following ones, should be quoted in full, is not it?

,[ $ ls /usr/share/common-licenses/ ]
| Apache-2.0  BSD   GFDL-1.2  GPLGPL-2  LGPLLGPL-2.1
| ArtisticGFDL  GFDL-1.3  GPL-1  GPL-3  LGPL-2  LGPL-3
`



Re: Ask about the license "permissive"

2016-12-30 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 at 20:50:10 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> > There is "permissive" used as name. Is this the correct name of the
> > license?
> 
> It look like a simplified variation on so called ‘Historical
> Permission Notice and Disclamer’ [0][1].  It is indeed a lax permissive
> licence, so I see no problem.

To be clear, there is probably no canonical name for this license. It
is one of many permissive licenses, rather than being "the Permissive
License".

Permissive licenses typically need to be quoted in full in the Debian
copyright file.

If you are using machine-readable copyright file syntax, the names used
for permissive licenses are essentially arbitrary, as long as they do not
collide with a predefined license name. If only one permissive license
is used, it's often listed as "License: permissive". If multiple
permissive licenses are used or there is some other reason to disambiguate,
I usually use something like "License: alexandrov-permissive" or
"License: foobar-permissive", with the name of the author, copyright
holder or module added.

S



Re: Ask about the license "permissive"

2016-12-30 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hello Dmitry,


many thanks for your answer.

Am Freitag, den 30.12.2016, 20:46 +0300 schrieb Dmitry Alexandrov:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I want to adopt the package xtrkcad and I have a question about the
> > license of app/tools/dirent.*.
> > 
> > The license text is
> > [quote]
> >  Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
> >  documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
> >  that this copyright and permissions notice appear in all copies and
> >  derivatives.
> >  .
> >  This software is supplied "as is" without express or implied warranty.
> > [/quote]
> > 
> > I found the same text at[1]. 
> > 
> > There is "permissive" used as name. Is this the correct name of the
> > license?
> > 
> > Many thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > CU
> > Jörg
> > 
> > [1] https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/atanks/copyright-6.5~dfsg-2
> 
> It looks like a simplified variation on so called ‘Historical Permission 
> Notice and Disclaimer’ [0][1].  It is indeed a lax permissive licence, so I 
> see no problem.
> 

Good :-)
Thanks for your comment!



> [0] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#HPND
> [1] 
> https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Historical_Permission_Notice_and_Disclaimer
> 

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Re: Ask about the license "permissive"

2016-12-30 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
> Hello,
>
> I want to adopt the package xtrkcad and I have a question about the
> license of app/tools/dirent.*.
>
> The license text is
> [quote]
>  Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
>  documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
>  that this copyright and permissions notice appear in all copies and
>  derivatives.
>  .
>  This software is supplied "as is" without express or implied warranty.
> [/quote]
>
> I found the same text at[1]. 
>
> There is "permissive" used as name. Is this the correct name of the
> license?
>
> Many thanks!
>
>
> CU
> Jörg
>
> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/atanks/copyright-6.5~dfsg-2

It look like a simplified variation on so called ‘Historical Permission Notice 
and Disclamer’ [0][1].  It is indeed a lax permissive licence, so I see no 
problem.

[0] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#HPND
[1] 
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Historical_Permission_Notice_and_Disclaimer



Re: Ask about the license "permissive"

2016-12-30 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
> Hello,
>
> I want to adopt the package xtrkcad and I have a question about the
> license of app/tools/dirent.*.
>
> The license text is
> [quote]
>  Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
>  documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
>  that this copyright and permissions notice appear in all copies and
>  derivatives.
>  .
>  This software is supplied "as is" without express or implied warranty.
> [/quote]
>
> I found the same text at[1]. 
>
> There is "permissive" used as name. Is this the correct name of the
> license?
>
> Many thanks!
>
>
> CU
> Jörg
>
> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/atanks/copyright-6.5~dfsg-2

It looks like a simplified variation on so called ‘Historical Permission Notice 
and Disclaimer’ [0][1].  It is indeed a lax permissive licence, so I see no 
problem.

[0] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#HPND
[1] 
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Historical_Permission_Notice_and_Disclaimer



Ask about the license "permissive"

2016-12-30 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hello,

I want to adopt the package xtrkcad and I have a question about the
license of app/tools/dirent.*.

The license text is
[quote]
 Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
 documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
 that this copyright and permissions notice appear in all copies and
 derivatives.
 .
 This software is supplied "as is" without express or implied warranty.
[/quote]

I found the same text at[1]. 

There is "permissive" used as name. Is this the correct name of the
license?

Many thanks!


CU
Jörg

[1] https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/atanks/copyright-6.5~dfsg-2

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