Re: Report for my LTS work in December 2023

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 2/9/24 8:17 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:


src:debian-security-support:
- #1061268: ending security support for chromium in bullseye


Hi,

Does it mean that chromium in bullseye will not be updated anymore?

Regards,

Misko

Re: [SECURITY] [DLA 3452-1] thunderbird security update

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 6/12/2023 11:38 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:

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Debian LTS Advisory DLA-3452-1debian-lts@lists.debian.org
https://www.debian.org/lts/security/   Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
June 12, 2023 https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
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Package: thunderbird
Version: 1:102.12.0-1~deb10u1
CVE ID : CVE-2023-34414 CVE-2023-34416

Multiple security issues were discovered in Thunderbird, which could
result in denial of service or the execution of arbitrary code.

For Debian 10 buster, these problems have been fixed in version
1:102.12.0-1~deb10u1.

We recommend that you upgrade your thunderbird packages.



Although unrelated with the security issues above, may I ask something 
that I noticed for the first time in Thunderbird 102.11.0 (32-bit) that 
annoys me and what differs from some older versions in the past, as I 
can remember:  In fact, a right click on a message body (in the message 
pane, F8) opens the 'Save As ...' option. Then in the new opened window 
a file name shall be entered. However, it is per default offered to save 
the message under a rather complex name composed by all of these: 
Subject-Sender  Day Time.eml


And for some reason I get the response: 'Unable to save the message. 
Please check your file name."


So, after testing different variant of file names, I discovered that the 
best option is when the name includes only the Subject (and not the 
rest). It makes me wonder if it would be possible for a user to set it 
per default, so it would not be needed to shorten the file name each 
time. (I mean, to configure saving the message under a name that 
includes only the Subject and nothing else.)


Furthermore, I noticed that message saving under a name that includes 
some non-alphabet characters, such as colon or like, also tends to fail. 
And it fails under some Linux versions, but not in Windows ones. What 
may be a reason for that? Thank you.


Miroslav

Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 10/16/22 3:10 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:



On 16/10/2022 at 13:28, Miroslav Skoric wrote:

On 10/15/22 9:50 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:


As found on a newsgroup, setting mailnews.nntp.jsmodule=false fixed 
the issue.


As I am not a programmer, where can I find & fix that line? Tnx.


In settings, general, configuration editor (advanced settings).




Seems that fixed the issue. Thanks!

The next issue (not linked to the new versions only): Whenever I click 
on a folder group in the folder pane (on the left side), and if happens 
that there are no messages in the folder, a pop-up window asks me this:


"The newsgroup  does not appear to exist on the host 
127.0.0.1.  Would you like to unsubscribe from it?". As I do not want to 
unsubscribe from that newsgroup, it makes me wonder how to prevent that 
asking? I know that I can click on "Cancel" each time when asked that, 
but it is annoying because that pop-up window appears every few minutes 
or so. Very annoying.


And another new thing that seems to appeared recently (I run version 
102.3.0 (32-bit): When I click to a message line in the upper right pane 
(within the same newsgroup), a pop-up window asks me this:


"Would you like to subscribe to ?" If I press ESC or click 
on Cancel, that pop-up window disappears, but it appears again as soon 
as I click on any other message line, asking again whether to subscribe 
to that message's number, etc. Also very annoying ... Is there a way to 
disable that feature too?


Misko

Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 10/15/22 9:50 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

On 14/10/2022 at, I wrote:


On 14/10/2022 at 11:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:


Thank you for comment. Unfortunately, I do not have any machine 
running bullseye or bookworm, so I cannot test it myself. Hope 
someone will do.


I use thunderbird with NNTP on bullseye, it works as well as the 
previous version.


Hmm, actually not. It works with my usual (unauthenticated) server but 
not an authenticated server I had not used since the upgrade. According 
to tcpdump, it performs authentication then just sits there.


As found on a newsgroup, setting mailnews.nntp.jsmodule=false fixed the 
issue.





As I am not a programmer, where can I find & fix that line? Tnx.

Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

[Miroslav Skoric]

Hi,

Thank you for comment. Unfortunately, I do not have any machine running 
bullseye or bookworm, so I cannot test it myself. Hope someone will do.


Regards,

Misko


On 10/12/22 3:56 PM, Sylvain Beucler wrote:

Hi,

I don't use the NNTP feature myself, but since we're following the 
Thunderbird ESR releases, there's a high chance that it's a bug in 
upstream Thunderbird.


Unless the same works in other Debian dists (bullseye or bookworm, who 
also upgraded to 102esr), I'd suggest you look at the official 
Thunderbird contact points.


Cheers!
Sylvain Beucler
Debian LTS Team

On 05/10/2022 15:17, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 
91-something to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling 
newsgroups properly (where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the 
same machine, and there nothing was changed/upgraded).


To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the 
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane, 
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and 
From columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for 
all news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.


Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

[Miroslav Skoric]

After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something 
to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly 
(where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there 
nothing was changed/upgraded).


To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the 
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane, 
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and From 
columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for all 
news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.


Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Misko

Re: [SECURITY] [DLA 2880-1] firefox-esr security update

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 1/17/22 11:44 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:

On 16/01/2022 23:49, Miroslav Skoric wrote:

On 1/16/22 11:55 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:


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Debian LTS Advisory DLA-2880-1
debian-lts@lists.debian.org
https://www.debian.org/lts/security/   Emilio Pozuelo 
Monfort
January 16, 2022  
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
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- 



Package    : firefox-esr
Version    : 91.5.0esr-1~deb9u1
CVE ID : CVE-2021-4140 CVE-2022-22737 CVE-2022-22738 
CVE-2022-22739
  CVE-2022-22740 CVE-2022-22741 CVE-2022-22742 
CVE-2022-22743
  CVE-2022-22745 CVE-2022-22747 CVE-2022-22748 
CVE-2022-22751


Multiple security issues have been found in the Mozilla Firefox web
browser, which could potentially result in the execution of arbitrary 
code,

information disclosure, denial of service or spoofing.

For Debian 9 stretch, these problems have been fixed in version
91.5.0esr-1~deb9u1.

We recommend that you upgrade your firefox-esr packages.



Hi all,

After a recent upgrade of Firefox and Thunderbird (before this one 
91.5) in oldoldstable (running Mate desktop), Firefox keeps asking me 
to be default browser, even though I have set it as default in Mate's 
default applications, and respond to that asking by click on 'don't 
ask me again'.


What is the result of:

$ xdg-settings get default-web-browser



firefox-esr.desktop

Also, if you go to Firefox > Settings, is 'Always check if Firefox is 
your default browser' checked?




It is checked but greyed (not possible to uncheck).



Furthermore, Thunderbird was also set as a default email client. 
However, if I click on a weblink in Thunderbird mail, another 
Thunderbird session opens (instead opening Firefox). And when I close 
both software, and check again for default Mate applications ... voila 
... Thunderbird seems as magically selected itself for both mail 
client and web browser!


I'm not sure why it would do that, but perhaps set the default browser 
and mail client yourself and in Thunderbird > Preferences unmark 'Check 
if Thunderbird is the default mail client'.




It was checked (marked), so I unmarked it.


btw I have been testing on Cinnamon, not Mate.

Cheers,
Emilio



The issue started after upgrading to Firefox 91.4.1esr (32-bit) on 
Debian 9 stretch. Earlier today I upgraded to 91.5.0esr and the symptom 
is persistent.


Regards,

Misko

Re: [SECURITY] [DLA 2880-1] firefox-esr security update

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 1/16/22 11:55 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:


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Debian LTS Advisory DLA-2880-1debian-lts@lists.debian.org
https://www.debian.org/lts/security/   Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
January 16, 2022  https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
- -

Package: firefox-esr
Version: 91.5.0esr-1~deb9u1
CVE ID : CVE-2021-4140 CVE-2022-22737 CVE-2022-22738 CVE-2022-22739
  CVE-2022-22740 CVE-2022-22741 CVE-2022-22742 CVE-2022-22743
  CVE-2022-22745 CVE-2022-22747 CVE-2022-22748 CVE-2022-22751

Multiple security issues have been found in the Mozilla Firefox web
browser, which could potentially result in the execution of arbitrary code,
information disclosure, denial of service or spoofing.

For Debian 9 stretch, these problems have been fixed in version
91.5.0esr-1~deb9u1.

We recommend that you upgrade your firefox-esr packages.



Hi all,

After a recent upgrade of Firefox and Thunderbird (before this one 91.5) 
in oldoldstable (running Mate desktop), Firefox keeps asking me to be 
default browser, even though I have set it as default in Mate's default 
applications, and respond to that asking by click on 'don't ask me again'.


Furthermore, Thunderbird was also set as a default email client. 
However, if I click on a weblink in Thunderbird mail, another 
Thunderbird session opens (instead opening Firefox). And when I close 
both software, and check again for default Mate applications ... voila 
... Thunderbird seems as magically selected itself for both mail client 
and web browser!


How to prevent that misbehaviour? All worked well until recently with 
earlier versions of Firefox and Thunderbird. What went wrong with new 
versions?


Misko

Re: [SECURITY] [DLA 2880-1] firefox-esr security update

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 1/16/22 11:55 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Debian LTS Advisory DLA-2880-1debian-lts@lists.debian.org
https://www.debian.org/lts/security/   Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
January 16, 2022  https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
- -

Package: firefox-esr
Version: 91.5.0esr-1~deb9u1
CVE ID : CVE-2021-4140 CVE-2022-22737 CVE-2022-22738 CVE-2022-22739
  CVE-2022-22740 CVE-2022-22741 CVE-2022-22742 CVE-2022-22743
  CVE-2022-22745 CVE-2022-22747 CVE-2022-22748 CVE-2022-22751

Multiple security issues have been found in the Mozilla Firefox web
browser, which could potentially result in the execution of arbitrary code,
information disclosure, denial of service or spoofing.

For Debian 9 stretch, these problems have been fixed in version
91.5.0esr-1~deb9u1.

We recommend that you upgrade your firefox-esr packages.



Hi all,

After a recent upgrade of Firefox and Thunderbird (before this one 91.5) 
in oldoldstable (running Mate desktop), Firefox keeps asking me to be 
default browser, even though I have set it as default in Mate's default 
applications, and respond to that asking by click on 'don't ask me again'.


Furthermore, Thunderbird was also set as a default email client. 
However, if I click on a weblink in Thunderbird mail, another 
Thunderbird session opens (instead opening Firefox). And when I close 
both software, and check again for default Mate applications ... voila 
... Thunderbird seems as magically selected itself for both mail client 
and web browser!


How to prevent that misbehaviour? All worked well until recently with 
earlier versions of Firefox and Thunderbird. What went wrong with new 
versions?


Misko

Re: Bug#953950: python-twisted: twisted version 14.0.2-3+deb8u1 in jessie (security) is broken

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 3/19/2020 11:00 PM, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:



One 'specific reason' to stay with an older release is that almost any new
release requires newer hardware (i.e. stops supporting some hardware that
was supported by the older release).


Linux upstream is super conservative with dropping support for hardware, can
you name a specific driver/component in Linux mainline which suddenly went
unsupported as part of a Debian kernel update?

Cheers,
Moritz




For example, upgrade from Debian 8 'jessie' to Debian 9 'stretch' 
unsupported i586 (in favor of i686).


By the way, an upgraded release usually runs slower than the previous 
one on the same hardware, etc. Probably as a result of the upgraded 
developers' hardware :-)


Misko

Re: Bug#953950: python-twisted: twisted version 14.0.2-3+deb8u1 in jessie (security) is broken

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 3/19/20 1:01 PM, Simon McVittie wrote:



If you do not have a specific reason to stay on Debian 8 'jessie',
also consider upgrading to Debian 9 'stretch', and then from there to
Debian 10 'buster', which is the current stable release.



Hi,

One 'specific reason' to stay with an older release is that almost any 
new release requires newer hardware (i.e. stops supporting some hardware 
that was supported by the older release).


IMHO, it can be understood that mainstream Debian team or the 
maintainers of individual packages tend to upgrade their hardware 
frequently. But that's not always the case in the end users' community.


Misko

Re: jessie-updates gone

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 4/2/19 12:59 PM, Andy Smith wrote:

Hi Miroslav,

On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 11:53:50AM +0200, Miroslav Skoric wrote:

On 4/1/19 8:14 PM, Andy Smith wrote:


I do understand that re-adding an empty jessie-updates directory
will silence a lot of warnings from apt update, and thus would avoid
the questions from end users that I have seen in a lot of places,
but… I can't help thinking that although it is bad that these users
were confused, at least they now understand that the level of
support has changed.


-1

Programmers' decision that led thousands of users to ask themselves what was
wrong with their apt update was a very bad marketing for Debian.


The alternative is that those users continue using Debian without
realising that their packages stopped being supported by the
maintainers and security team and are now supported by LTS alone.

Is that a better outcome?

Cheers,
Andy




IMHO, that alone (realising that some packages stopped being supported) 
doesn't help much anyway. Various software stopped being supported by 
their originators in the past. Sooner or later the users get aware of 
that fact. But many continue using that 'old' software if they do not 
have better alternatives.


But in this very case, 'apt-get update' started returning an "error" msg 
that looked as if something went terribly wrong with Debian repositories 
(that did work fine just a day before), and that confused the users - at 
least myself.


Regards,

Misko

Re: jessie-updates gone

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 4/1/19 8:14 PM, Andy Smith wrote:


I do understand that re-adding an empty jessie-updates directory
will silence a lot of warnings from apt update, and thus would avoid
the questions from end users that I have seen in a lot of places,
but… I can't help thinking that although it is bad that these users
were confused, at least they now understand that the level of
support has changed.



-1

Programmers' decision that led thousands of users to ask themselves what 
was wrong with their apt update was a very bad marketing for Debian.

Re: jessie-updates gone

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 4/1/19 3:50 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:



We have asked if it's going to be re-added, even if empty, to avoid people
using jessie from seeing errors when updateing package lists.

do I have to fill a bugreport to get it back?



Yes, do it please.

Re: A huge thank you!

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 05/31/2018 10:44 PM, Adrian Zaugg wrote:


Dear LTS Team

Your work is greatly appreciated! I would like to thank you all for your
effort. Without the LTS of wheezy it would have been a big pain for me.
Thanks a lot for helping that much.

Best regards, Adrian.




+1


M.S.

Fwd: Bug#843399: Acknowledgement (linux-image-3.2.0-4-486 version 3.2.81-2 freezes)

[Miroslav Skoric]

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Bug#843399: Acknowledgement (linux-image-3.2.0-4-486 version 
3.2.81-2 freezes)

Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2016 13:03:04 +
From: Debian Bug Tracking System 
Reply-To: 843...@bugs.debian.org
To: Miroslav Skoric 

Thank you for filing a new Bug report with Debian.

This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.

Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course.

Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
 Debian Kernel Team 

If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please
send it to 843...@bugs.debian.org.

Please do not send mail to ow...@bugs.debian.org unless you wish
to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system.

--
843399: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=843399
Debian Bug Tracking System
Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems

Re: linux-image-3.2.0-4-486

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 11/13/2016 04:58 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:



I'm afraid this hasn't arrived.  Maybe reportbug doesn't know how to
send mail from your system?  There should still be a file in /tmp (name
beginning with 'reportbug') that can you copy into an email to
sub...@bugs.debian.org.



It should have arrived. I got a confirmation from the bug system. I'll 
forward you the confirmation in the other mail.


Misko

Re: linux-image-3.2.0-4-486

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 11/05/2016 10:37 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:



Please use 'reportbug kernel' to open a bug report and attach the file
to the report.



Done.

Re: linux-image-3.2.0-4-486

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 11/04/2016 09:58 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:



You should be able to extract the kernel log messages for the new
kernel version like this:

{ zcat /var/log/messages.{4,3,2}.gz ; cat /var/log/messages{.1,} ; } \
| sed -n '/Debian 3\.2\.82-1/,/Debian 3\.2\.81-2/ { /kernel:/p }' \
> kernel.log

However, it may be that any error messages were not logged to disk.

Ben.



Ok, I managed to produce an ~850 kB kernel.log file. Should I attach it 
to a mail? I used the command: zcat /var/log/messages.2.gz ; cat 
/var/log/messages.1 | sed -n '/Debian 3\.2\.82-1/,/Debian 3\.2\.81-2/ { 
/kernel:/p }' > kernel.log


Misko

Re: linux-image-3.2.0-4-486

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 11/04/2016 12:22 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:


Ten days ago I upgraded one of my older PCs running wheezy from kernel
3.2.81-2 to 3.2.82-1 and soon after I realized that the system started
to "freeze" a couple of minutes after booting.


Does that happen while you are actively using the system, or while it
is idle?



That was happening in various situations (E.g. after booting when it 
came to the login GUI, or later after the login while it was idle, and 
even later while I was using the system). It changed from time to time, 
but in average the system was usable no longer than 0.5-1 hour or so.



In fact nothing else
could be done but pressing the reset button. After downgrading the
kernel back to 3.2.81-2 everything seemed back to normal. Any idea?


Does this system use a GUI or text console?  If it uses a GUI, please
try switching to a text console after booting as the kernel may be able
to log some error messages there.



It is a GUI. As said, there is no problematic kernel on the system now. 
I downgraded the kernel last Sunday or so. Now it is OK. When I switch 
to the text consoles there is nothing (only login prompts). However, it 
seems that I do have some logs from 22-29 Oct when I had the problem. 
Just let me know which one should contain error msgs (if any).


Miroslav

linux-image-3.2.0-4-486

[Miroslav Skoric]

Ten days ago I upgraded one of my older PCs running wheezy from kernel 
3.2.81-2 to 3.2.82-1 and soon after I realized that the system started 
to "freeze" a couple of minutes after booting. In fact nothing else 
could be done but pressing the reset button. After downgrading the 
kernel back to 3.2.81-2 everything seemed back to normal. Any idea?

Re: Supporting armel/armhf in wheezy-lts

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 04/24/2016 09:55 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:



As a Debian developer (and not only as a freelancer/company owner) I do
care about Debian LTS because it is important for Debian's long term
relevance (at least according to me).



An off-topic: As a Debian user (not a developer/programmer, at least not 
yet) I strongly support Debian LTS project. Occasionally I do some 
voluntary job by promoting Debian (and Linux in general) in various 
technical conferences and academic visits. Having said that, I wonder if 
there are some resources for promoters of that kind that you could 
recommend? For example, I am particularly interested in non-expensive 
publishing houses that are willingly to publish books in lesser-used 
disciplines, such as using Linux as a component of amateur radio 
networks in various educational environments, ...


Best regards,

Miroslav Skoric

--

tutorial instructor:

http://www.comcas.org/
http://sdiwc.net/conferences/icctim2015/
http://wocn2014.org/wtutorials.html
http://sdiwc.net/conferences/2014/iceee2014/tutorial/
http://www.juit.ac.in/ISPCC_2013/
http://www.buruniv.ac.in/ICCS-2013/index.html
http://www.sdiwc.net/thi/
http://www.sdiwc.net/kl/
http://www.iaeng.org/IMECS2011
http://www.dirf.org/ndt2010
http://www.icact.org/
http://www.iaeng.org/IMECS2009
http://www.iaria.org/conferences2008/ICWMC08.html
http://www.wseas.org/conferences/2008/greece/education/
http://www.wseas.us/conferences/2009/rodos/education
http://eurocon2007.isep.pw.edu.pl/index.php?id=tutorials.php
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/FBB.html

workshop / visiting lecturer:

IIITM Gwalior, India
SRM University, Chennai, India
Vardhaman College of Engineering, Hyderabad, India
GRIET, Hyderabad, India
NIT Surat, India
IIT, Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi, India
Techno India NJR Institute of Technology, Udaipur, India
BMS College of Engineering, Bangalore, India
IIITM-K, Technopark, Trivandrum, India
BU, Bangkok, Thailand
IIUM, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

book chapter author:

Handbook of Research on Human Performance and Instructional Technology
ISBN: 978-1-60566-782-9; 678 pp; October 2009
Published under Information Science Reference, an imprint of IGI Global
http://www.igi-global.com/reference/details.asp?id=34814

Simulation in Computer Network Design and Modeling: Use and Analysis
ISBN: 978-1-46660-191-8; 582 pages; February 2012
Published by IGI Global, USA
http://www.igi-global.com/book/simulation-computer-network-design-modeling/58282

Wireless Networks and Security: Issues, Challenges and Research Trends
ISBN: 978-3-642-36168-5; 510 pages; February 2013
Published by Springer, Germany
http://www.springer.com/engineering/signals/book/978-3-642-36168-5

Handbook of Research on Progressive Trends in Wireless Communications 
and Networking

ISBN: 9781466651708; 592 pages; February 2014
Published by IGI Global, USA
http://www.igi-global.com/book/wireless-communications-networking/90600

Re: Upgrading from Debian 6.0 LTS to 7

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 02/20/2016 01:17 PM, Alexis Grigoriou wrote:



or is there more that I need to do since my installation has LTS
support? One thing that comes to mind is the "squeeze-lts" entry
in /etc/apt/sources.list. Does that need to be removed prior to
upgrading or does the upgrade process take care of that itself?


Probably it would be enough to do the following: at first to update as 
much as possible with the actual "squeeze-lts" entry, following by 
changing all "squeeze-lts" and "squeeze" entries to "wheezy" and 
update/upgrade it again in some way of a 'safe upgrade' (there is some 
syntax on the web how to do that, and that step will upgrade only the 
kernel parts of the system), and finally to do full upgrade again (all 
the rest packages in the system).

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 02/10/2016 10:17 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:



so, are you prepared for valentine's day massacre?



Actually not: It is Wheezy (7.9) now, and I predict its valentine's day 
massacre to approach in few years. Btw, when is the end of life for 
Wheezy LTS?



or have you tried something like memory upgrade?

I notice slowdown when logging to lxde after upgrading to jessie,
however I think most of problems aren't related to HW performance, I
remember ~18 tears ago when installing dnsmasq locally speed up my
computer much.



Well, it's an 1999-year machine, 224 meg RAM, Celeron 400 MHz. I do not 
plan to waste $$$ for an upgrade. As long as it works I'll keep it as 
is. Interestingly, while that box was running Squeeze LTS, I found xfce 
to be the fastest GUI (compared to lxde and gnome). Now with Wheezy, 
Gnome is the speediest. It's slow but works.

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 02/09/2016 05:04 AM, Bret Busby wrote:



End of Life on Valentines Day?

So, Valentines Day means death to many lifes?

A Valentines Day Massacre?

(Someone had to say it...)

:)



To prevent the 'end of life' I upgraded my old comp to wheezy some time 
ago, despite being told to throw the old box to the junk-yard. It is 
awfully slw now. I wonder if it is in its 'afterlife'  :-)


Misko

Re: The content of /etc/apt/sources.list

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 05/23/2015 03:44 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:


See
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I don't see why it wouldn't still work, though it's likely to run slower
again.  Maybe time for new hardware?

Ben.



Thanks Ben. Well I am reluctant to invest in new hardware due to some 
other priorities ... anyway any time soon ...


Misko


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Re: The content of /etc/apt/sources.list

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 05/23/2015 12:36 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:



tried searching for more RAM? there's also some small probability to get
better/faster CPU for the same socket, e.g. Pentium 3.

I'm afraid xfce won't be very fast on such machine, switching to LXDE
_could_ help (not sure tho).

However, if the machine acts as FW/GW, you don't really need X there...


Thank you for ideas. Updating that peace of hardware is not an option 
(yet). However, playing with various desktop environments will occur. 
You are right on X, however I forgot to tell that I do need an average 
GUI there for icedove and some other stuff, but that's a long story ...


Misko


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The content of /etc/apt/sources.list

[Miroslav Skoric]

Hi,

Probably after some faulty misconfiguration I lost some lines in
/etc/apt/sources.list so I am not sure now what is the proper content of 
it. In fact, I started to use squeeze a couple of years ago by 
installing the first ten CDs of its release 6.0.1a and by time upgraded 
to 6.0.10 and at some points I also added backports and squeeze-lts to 
the sources list. However I am not sure now if the system is updated 
properly, so would appreciate advices on the most appropriate content of 
/etc/apt/sources.list


Secondly, having in mind that squeeze-lts will be retired next February, 
I've been thinking on upgrading this comp to wheezy. The main issue is 
that is an old box (Celeron II 400 MHz, 224 meg RAM, most of the 
internal cards are ISA, etc), so I wonder if it would accept the 
upgrade. According to some websites, it seems that should be possible, 
however I would like to hear advices on that. This machine is primarily 
used as a firewall-router for the other two comps in the home LAN, and 
it has an ISA dial-up modem Zoltrix and USB wifi connectivity on it, 
Xfce, icedove, etc. All of that works with squeeze-lts although as 
expected the comp is pretty slow. I wonder if upgrading to wheezy (or 
wheezy-lts if available) would be feasible here, or I should look for 
other options. Thank you.


Misko


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