Re: Long descriptions in RFS emails.

2008-02-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 11/02/2008, Andres Mejia wrote:
 Perhaps it's best to include where the description and other
 information should go. I'm thinking something like:
 […]
 The package appears to be lintian clean.

I'd like not to see this in a template anymore. And rather a “State of
the package with the latest lintian version available (in unstable):”,
reminding people that this is not just a sentence to copy over, and
that one has to actually run lintian…

 The upload would fix these bugs: XX . . .

Maybe suggesting to include a description and/or the severity of the
bugs might help spot “important” uploads.

 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/package/package_version.dsc

That URL is IMHO very sufficient.

 Reason: This is a new upstream. It fixes a security issue that
 allowed this and that. etc. . . .

That might be a nice summary instead of just a list of bugs, titles,
severities as I proposed above, but the idea is just the same.

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RFS: ustr (updated package)

2008-02-12 Thread Václav Ovsík
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0.3-2
of my package ustr.

It builds these binary packages:
 libustr-1.0-1 - Micro string library: shared library
 libustr-1.0-1-dbg - Micro string library: debugging symbols
 libustr-dev - Micro string library: development stuff
 libustr-doc - Micro string library: documentation

Description: ustr (Micro string library) is a string API for C. It has
 tiny overhead over just plain strdup(), is much safer, is easier to
 use, is faster for many operations, can be used with read-only or
 automatically allocated data. You don't even need to link to the
 library to use it (so there are no dependencies).

Upstream author: James Antill

Homepage: http://www.and.org/ustr/

This library is the requisite for latest libsemanage, the library of
the SELinux code suite.

Ustr is packaged using CDBS. Package was rebuild using pbuilder.
Lintian v1.23.43 on ustr_1.0.3-2_i386.changes reports nothing.

Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/zito-guest/pkg-ustr.git
Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/~zito-guest/pkg-ustr.git

The upload would fix an important bug 465005
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=465005
- bashism in the utility script ustr-import.
It also cleans manpages a bit.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/ustr
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/ustr/ustr_1.0.3-2.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
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RFS: falconpl package (ITP:Bug#460591); source package

2008-02-12 Thread Giancarlo Niccolai
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Dear mentors,

I have uploaded the package as currently proposed and accepted in
Ubuntu, debianized where relevant.
The source is at:

http://www.falconpl.org/downloads/0.8.8/falconpl_0.8.8-1.diff.gz
http://www.falconpl.org/downloads/0.8.8/falconpl_0.8.8-1.dsc
http://www.falconpl.org/downloads/0.8.8/falconpl_0.8.8-1_source.changes
http://www.falconpl.org/downloads/0.8.8/falconpl_0.8.8.orig.tar.gz

The checks performed by Ubuntu maintainers have been quite extensive
and deep, and the package should be ready as is; so, I am requesting a
sponsor to forward the package in Debian too.

Bests,
Giancarlo Niccolai.

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Re: RFS: python-twitter

2008-02-12 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Mauro Lizaur, 11.02.2008]
 may i ask which was the lintian error? i executed lintan -i -I and it
 was clean :/

it was about missing python package in Build-Depends (a bug in lintian -
fixed already)

 All the changes you made are fine for me, there are only two thing
 that i would change:
 - the url in the homepage field, shouldn't be there the project url?

I moved one of the links from long description to this field (apparently
wrong one)

 - instead of using 'cp' to install the examples, i'll use 'install -m 755'

install is better, yes (it was cp before my changes, I only updated
paths)

 - I got this 'linda' warning:
 W: python-twitter; 3.7.3 is a newer Standards-Version.
 but the value on the Standards-Version field in the debian/control is 3.7.3

ignore it

 - When i built the package using -S -sa i got a 'lintian' warning
 about not having a Description field on the .changes file(which is
 true), but when i built this very same package not using pbuilder i
 got no warnings and the Description field appears on the .changes
 file.

cannot reproduce it with `dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa`, I'm not building source
only packages though, so you can ignore this one as well

 - And last but not least, may be both manpages could be improved a
 little bit more, i'll wait for your opinion about them.

looks good

One more thing before I upload it: please clarify copyright holder
issue - the one in sources and in debian/copyright doesn't match

(a hint: I was checking 3 other packages before yours today, join DPMT and
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Re: RFS: falconpl package (ITP:Bug#460591); source package

2008-02-12 Thread Paul Wise
Feb 13, 2008 3:53 AM, Giancarlo Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The checks performed by Ubuntu maintainers have been quite extensive
 and deep, and the package should be ready as is; so, I am requesting a
 sponsor to forward the package in Debian too.

I was intrigued by this claim, so here is a review of just the diff.gz:

Package descriptions do not need to reference which platforms it is
ported to, especially since Debian doesn't yet have GNU/ReactOS or
GNU/Darwin ports yet.

Package descriptions need some work, please read the developers reference:

http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-debian-control

debian/rules handles nostrip instead of letting dh_strip do it

CFLAGS doesn't look like it is being passed to the upstream build system

Shouldn't you be using dh_testroot instead of that weird checkroot
thing? If not, the clean target should depend on checkroot.

Several files have no newlines at the end.

Doesn't close any ITP bug in the changelog.

The contents of debian/falconpl-dev.manpages shouldn't be nessecary,
just put them in debian/falconpl-dev.install. dh_installman is only
for manual pages not installed by the upstream build system.

Useless comments  extra space in debian/watch

Which licence is the Falcon Programming Language License derived
from? It looks kind of familiar. License proliferation is bad, it
would be nice if you chose another one. If you don't want to do that
please get the debian-legal list to review it.

debian/copyright references /usr/share/common-licenses twice, one
correctly, one incorrectly.

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Re: [CDBS] adding commands to the checking target.

2008-02-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 03:11:05PM +, Neil Williams a écrit :
 
 If the tests are disabled, you won't know if some tests fail on
 different architectures. The whole point of make check if ensuring that
 the build works in environments other than the build machine.
 
 What about simply limiting the scale of the tests - e.g. if the upstream
 code uses a randomized input in a loop, maybe upstream could be patched
 to support a configurable number of cycles in each test routine.
 
 if ...
 DEB_MAKE_CHECK_TARGET = check
 else
 DEB_MAKE_CHECK_TARGET =
 endif

Hi Neil,

Thanks a lot for the help.

I have disabled the tests on arm m68k s390 because they are not so fast,
and on mips mipsel hppa because the buildds for these arches are not
keeping up. Anyway, I do not expect any user on these architectures. I am
all open to enable the tests if one can prove me wrong with a message
from a real user (the package name is primer3).

Have a nice day,

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Re: [CDBS] adding commands to the checking target.

2008-02-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 13/02/2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
 I have disabled the tests on arm m68k s390 because they are not so
 fast, and on mips mipsel hppa because the buildds for these arches
 are not keeping up.

That won't help your package get faster on the top of the queue. And
this doesn't seem to be a valid reason at all to skip the test on some
archs. Anyway, you know that m68k isn't taken into account for testing
migration, right?

 Anyway, I do not expect any user on these architectures.

How is that a reason? I'd suggest not second-guessing users, and
anyway, that can help spot arch-specific troubles (like in the kernel,
ISTR hppa troubles detected at buildtime), or underlying bugs that
might not be detected on other platforms by the testsuite, but
ready-to-bite anyway.

 I am all open to enable the tests if one can prove me wrong with a
 message from a real user (the package name is primer3).

And that user would be reading -mentors?

I'd rather enable the tests on all architectures, except on those
where you *might* have a *real* reason not to (I don't know, maybe you
might want to disable the testsuite because an item of the toolchain
is currently buggy and would make your package FTBFS?). Current
statuses of various architectures aren't a reason to do so.

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Re: Config files which are writable by www-data

2008-02-12 Thread Craig Small
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 01:20:14PM +0100, Roland Gruber wrote:
 but when I copy the files at install time (postinst) then /usr/share/doc
 should be no problem? If the administrator deletes the files in
 /usr/share/doc afterwards then my application will have no problems.
I got a similiar situation.
If the program is going to read-in the files, even as templates, put
them into /usr/share/packaganame

If they are just examples and the admin can copy and edit them then
/usr/share/doc/packagename/examples is where they should go.

 - Craig
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Re: How to set BTS tags nicely

2008-02-12 Thread Craig Small
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 02:47:10PM +0100, David Paleino wrote:
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I do the same except BCC so if anyone replies they don't spammed by
the BTS complaining about their reply being commands it doesn't
understand.

 - Craig
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Re: RFS: python-twitter

2008-02-12 Thread Mauro Lizaur
On Feb 12, 2008 9:28 PM, Piotr Ożarowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One more thing before I upload it: please clarify copyright holder
 issue - the one in sources and in debian/copyright doesn't match

Added the email of the author and Google as a copyright holder too.
I hope this is ok, if not, just tell me.

 (a hint: I was checking 3 other packages before yours today, join DPMT and
 your packages will get automatically a higher priority :)

I sent a request to join to the DPMT :)
Do i need to add the Uploaders field to debian/control?
Btw, eventually i'll see how to upload the debian/ dir to the svn
repositories too.


http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/python-twitter/python-twitter_0.5-1.dsc

Regards,
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Re: Help with watch file -- versions based on different libraries

2008-02-12 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, I wrote:
 I've been trying to write a watch file for flpsed.

First of all sorry for hijacking the thread.

Secondly, it is amazing how writing down one's problem
makes it clear how to solve it!

 As far as I can see the author's logic for this somewhat bizarre
 numbering is the hope that by the time 0.5.x needs enough revisions
 to cross 0.6, everyone will be using fltk2.x anyway.

Given this logic, I suppose the natural choice for the watch file
would be to use 0.5.* as the pattern that needs to be matched!

Thanks anyway.

Regards,

Kapil.
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Skipping tests on some arches.

2008-02-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:40:02AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
 
 I'd rather enable the tests on all architectures

Well, no problem for me. One of the reasons why I disabled the tests in
the past was that I asked the question and I was advised to do so.

Last time, the tests have taken:

1h05 on sparc,
37 min on mipsel,
39 min on mips,
37 min on powerpc,
19 min on hppa,
6 min on amd64…

Not a big deal, except of course if everybody makes test like this.

In popcon, there are 26 mips users, and primer3 is used by 0.1 % of the
Debian users. I still think that it is useless to wait for mips users to
have primer3 build before letting bug fixes to primer3 migrate to
testing, but as you noted, that it is a different story. If the persons
who care about the Debian ports do not mind my package eating their
CPUs, I'll happily re-enable the tests everywhere.

Have a nice day,

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Help with watch file -- versions based on different libraries

2008-02-12 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

I've been trying to write a watch file for flpsed.

The upstream home page is at
http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html

This lists two versions of flpsed based on which version of the
library fltk is being used. Since Debian only has fltk1.1.x at
the moment, I can package only flpsed 0.5.0.

However, any watch file I can cook up prefers 0.6.0 to this version.

As far as I can see the author's logic for this somewhat bizarre
numbering is the hope that by the time 0.5.x needs enough revisions
to cross 0.6, everyone will be using fltk2.x anyway.

Any solutions?

Regards,

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Re: RFS: meritous 1.2-2

2008-02-12 Thread D. Moonfire

On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 22:19 +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
 Hi!
 
 * D. Moonfire [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080212 20:24]:
  Salutations, after getting `meritous` packaged, someone kindly found a
  few bugs which I've patched, sent upstream, but I figured getting them
  out as soon as reasonable would be a Good Thing(tm) being that one of
  them causes the game to crash on the first boss fight. :)
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/meritous-1.2$ head -n3 debian/changelog 
 meritous (1.2-2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
 
   * NOT RELEASED YET
 

It wasn't released yet, so I left that in. :) Took it out.

 And since you install a desktop file, you should call dh_desktop, too.

I saw that it was being ignored (`man dh_desktop` says it is ignored if
there is no mime associated with it), but easily enough to put in. Done.

 Hmmm... any why is the icon not in the desktop file?

Didn't think I needed to. I had the Icon= field and Gnome seems to find
it without a problem, so I thought it was the acceptable use. I also
used the 'egoboo' package to see how I set it up (putting the icon in
pixmaps, etc).

Thank you for looking at it. I updated it, same link.

http://mfgames.com/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/meritous_1.2-2.dsc

Cheers,
Dylan


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RFS: meritous 1.2-2

2008-02-12 Thread D. Moonfire
Salutations, after getting `meritous` packaged, someone kindly found a
few bugs which I've patched, sent upstream, but I figured getting them
out as soon as reasonable would be a Good Thing(tm) being that one of
them causes the game to crash on the first boss fight. :)

.dsc:

http://mfgames.com/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/meritous_1.2-2.dsc

SVN:

http://mfgames.com/svn/debian/meritous/

apt-get repositories:

deb http://mfgames.com/debian unstable main
deb-src http://mfgames.com/debian unstable main

I think that's all I need to include.

Thank you kindly,
Dylan


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Re: RFS: uncrustify (updated package) (second try)

2008-02-12 Thread Johann Rudloff
Hi,

reading the thread Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file on this
list, I think I now found the right way(TM) to handle config.{sub,guess}
files:
The two files are removed (using rm -f) in the clean target, but then
the source package would generate a Lintian error as in the above
mentioned thread. (I also think, missing config.* would prevent
cross-building.)
So the two files are copied into the source tree from /usr/share/misc/
just before calling ./configure. Now the package build-depends on
autotools-dev again.

The updated package can be found on Debian mentors:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/uncrustify
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/uncrustify/uncrustify_0.43-1.dsc

Bye,
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Re: Skipping tests on some arches.

2008-02-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 13/02/2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
 1h05 on sparc,
 37 min on mipsel,
 39 min on mips,
 37 min on powerpc,
 19 min on hppa,
 6 min on amd64…

What about *relative* numbers, e.g. what % of the time is spent in the
build itself (gcc and friends), and what % of the time is spent in the
testsuite? Anyway, (almost) less than 1 hour everywhere isn't what I
call time-consuming from a buildd point of view.

 Not a big deal, except of course if everybody makes test like this.

More tests, less bugs.

 In popcon, there are 26 mips users, and primer3 is used by 0.1 % of
 the Debian users.

Popcon is no absolute knowledge. Anyway, 25+ users is far from
negligible AFAICT. Remember popcon can be disabled for various reasons
(e.g. privacy). I also seem to recall having heard of mips (but I
might be mistaken) clusters being used for specialized research in
related areas (but I'm not used to this domain, just reading the
description of the package).

 I still think that it is useless to wait for mips users to have
 primer3 build before letting bug fixes to primer3 migrate to
 testing, but as you noted, that it is a different story.

Indeed, that's nothing related here, and you've been already heavily
discussing the buildd redundancy matter elsewhere…

 If the persons who care about the Debian ports do not mind my
 package eating their CPUs, I'll happily re-enable the tests
 everywhere.

Less than 3/4 hour isn't what I call eating CPU. Go and see how many
*hours* are spent in some packages. Again, I'd rather see buildd being
used as much as possible to catch problems at build time than letting
bugs pass through and bite users at runtime, which is always a PITA to
debug. YMMV.

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Re: RFS: meritous 1.2-2

2008-02-12 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi!

* D. Moonfire [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080212 20:24]:
 Salutations, after getting `meritous` packaged, someone kindly found a
 few bugs which I've patched, sent upstream, but I figured getting them
 out as soon as reasonable would be a Good Thing(tm) being that one of
 them causes the game to crash on the first boss fight. :)


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/meritous-1.2$ head -n3 debian/changelog 
meritous (1.2-2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low

  * NOT RELEASED YET


And since you install a desktop file, you should call dh_desktop, too.
Hmmm... any why is the icon not in the desktop file?


Yours sincerely,
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Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 03:19:36PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Bas Wijnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:21:29AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
 
  Always re-running autoconf and automake would increase the number of
  FTBFS's that we'd need to fix.
 
  Not really.
 
 No, really, I promise it will.  :)  Each time we upgrade autoconf, it will
 break a bunch of packages that were doing things that weren't supported.

From a QA point of view it would be nice that we can actually test the
archive with a new version.  We could warn in advance which packages
have a problem.  We can track which still have the problem, and so on.

This would of course assume that it either gets uploaded to
experimental, or that it's not the default version in unstable.


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Re: How to set BTS tags nicely

2008-02-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, David Paleino wrote:
  I usually do:
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Better change that cc to bcc.  That way, spammers (and people) replying to
 your mail will not hammer the poor control bot.

It's no big deal if people send mail improperly to control; it deals
with it fairly sanely.
 

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Tests that take more than ten times build time.

2008-02-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Re-salut Cyril,

Le Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 03:30:24AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
 What about *relative* numbers, e.g. what % of the time is spent in the
 build itself (gcc and friends), and what % of the time is spent in the
 testsuite? Anyway, (almost) less than 1 hour everywhere isn't what I
 call time-consuming from a buildd point of view.

Test time on arch (build time)
 1h05 on sparc (3 min),
 37 min on mipsel (2 min),
 39 min on mips (3 min),
 37 min on powerpc (2 min),
 19 min on hppa (2 min),
 6 min on amd64 (1 min)…

Of course, if this is an exception, there is no need to argue. But in
the Debian-Med packaging team, we have a few package whose tests are not
yet enabled (bioperl, emboss,...); I do not know if it would be wise to
do so systematically if they have a similar pattern of CPU usage...

Or maybe in the end it would be the role of the port responsibles to
micromanage this?

 Popcon is no absolute knowledge. Anyway, 25+ users is far from
 negligible AFAICT.

Sure, but we are talking og 0.1 % of 25+ users. So if for one popcon
report there are 10 instalations, it still makes only 0.25 user. And
this includes the persons who downoladed the package but are not using
it.

Bonne journée,

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Re: How to set BTS tags nicely

2008-02-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, David Paleino wrote:
 I usually do:
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Better change that cc to bcc.  That way, spammers (and people) replying to
your mail will not hammer the poor control bot.

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Re: signed mails to control@ (was: How to set BTS tags nicely)

2008-02-12 Thread Nico Golde
Hi David,
* David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-12 15:10]:
 Il giorno Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:53:21 +0100
 Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
  * David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-12 14:50]:
  [...] 
   I usually sign all my emails -- but when I include commands to the BTS I
   cannot do that, as the GPG header is confusing the server.
   
   So, this is how you would do it. I add more to the original question: is 
   it
   possible to send GPG-signed mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  What problems did you experience? Cause I sign all my mails 
  no matter if they go to the control address or not and never 
  had any problem with that.
 
 To be honest, last time I tried sending a signed mail to control@ was 
 something
 like a year ago. Something may have changed since then, since I've just made a
 test mail (see #455005). But I've also changed something: now I send my GPG
 signature as PGP/MIME, before I was sending it as PGP/Inline. I bet that
 control@ can't handle PGP/Inline signed messages.

Yes this seems to be the reason then :)
Cheers
Nico
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[CDBS] adding commands to the checking target.

2008-02-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear mentors,

I am using CDBS for a package, in particular because it gives the support of
the nocheck option for free, but in addition I want to disable by default the
checks for some arches, because they take 20 min on an iMac G5…

To add things to the clean rule, one would have to write something like
this:

clean::
instruction to be added.

However, I have not found anything for the checks. Does anybody know?

The code I would like to add is:

 ifeq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU),$(SKIP_TEST_CPUS)))
 @echo Fast-cpu arch detected, performing checks.
 else
 @echo Slow-cpu arch detected, skipping checks.t
 DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS += nocheck
 endif

(at this point, it may be obvious to some of you that I am not comfortable with
the syntax of variable comparisons in makefiles, because it would of course be
better to have a simple if slow arch, then nocheck)

Have a nice day,

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Re: signed mails to control@ (was: How to set BTS tags nicely)

2008-02-12 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:53:21 +0100
Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Hi David,

Hi Nico,

 * David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-12 14:50]:
 [...] 
  I usually sign all my emails -- but when I include commands to the BTS I
  cannot do that, as the GPG header is confusing the server.
  
  So, this is how you would do it. I add more to the original question: is it
  possible to send GPG-signed mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 What problems did you experience? Cause I sign all my mails 
 no matter if they go to the control address or not and never 
 had any problem with that.

To be honest, last time I tried sending a signed mail to control@ was something
like a year ago. Something may have changed since then, since I've just made a
test mail (see #455005). But I've also changed something: now I send my GPG
signature as PGP/MIME, before I was sending it as PGP/Inline. I bet that
control@ can't handle PGP/Inline signed messages.

Kindly,
David

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Re: How to set BTS tags nicely

2008-02-12 Thread Thibaut Paumard


Le 12 févr. 08 à 14:47, David Paleino a écrit :


Il giorno Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:35:46 +0100
Thibaut Paumard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:


Sometimes, I want to send new information to a bug report and set
tags or otherwise modify the bug at the same time (for instance, but
not only, sending a patch and setting the patch tag).

I have tried setting a pseudo-header in my e-mail to bug-
id@bugs.debian.org to no avail. It seems I must send two separate e-
mails, one with the information to bug-id@ and the other with the
commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I usually do:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...


Thanks,

I guess I could have figured that out :-) Does what I want (display  
the modifications to the bug report as well as the information that  
goes with them).


Never had a problem with signed e-mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best regards, Thibaut.



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Re: How to set BTS tags nicely

2008-02-12 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:35:46 +0100
Thibaut Paumard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Hi,

Hi,

 There is a trivial question I've been asking myself for some time,  
 and I guess it will be best abswered here.
 
 Sometimes, I want to send new information to a bug report and set  
 tags or otherwise modify the bug at the same time (for instance, but  
 not only, sending a patch and setting the patch tag).
 
 I have tried setting a pseudo-header in my e-mail to bug- 
 id@bugs.debian.org to no avail. It seems I must send two separate e- 
 mails, one with the information to bug-id@ and the other with the  
 commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Is it really how I should do, or is there a more correct way to proceed?

I usually do:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

tags nn +patch moreinfo unreproducible blah blah blah
thanks

Hi,
the bug you reported [..]


I usually sign all my emails -- but when I include commands to the BTS I cannot
do that, as the GPG header is confusing the server.

So, this is how you would do it. I add more to the original question: is it
possible to send GPG-signed mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers,
David

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Re: [CDBS] adding commands to the checking target.

2008-02-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 23:37 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 I am using CDBS for a package, in particular because it gives the support of
 the nocheck option for free, but in addition I want to disable by default 
 the
 checks for some arches, because they take 20 min on an iMac G5…

If the tests are disabled, you won't know if some tests fail on
different architectures. The whole point of make check if ensuring that
the build works in environments other than the build machine.

What about simply limiting the scale of the tests - e.g. if the upstream
code uses a randomized input in a loop, maybe upstream could be patched
to support a configurable number of cycles in each test routine.

  ifeq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU),$(SKIP_TEST_CPUS)))
  @echo Fast-cpu arch detected, performing checks.
  else
  @echo Slow-cpu arch detected, skipping checks.t
  DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS += nocheck
  endif

if ...
DEB_MAKE_CHECK_TARGET = check
else
DEB_MAKE_CHECK_TARGET =
endif

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How to set BTS tags nicely

2008-02-12 Thread Thibaut Paumard

Hi,

There is a trivial question I've been asking myself for some time,  
and I guess it will be best abswered here.


Sometimes, I want to send new information to a bug report and set  
tags or otherwise modify the bug at the same time (for instance, but  
not only, sending a patch and setting the patch tag).


I have tried setting a pseudo-header in my e-mail to bug- 
id@bugs.debian.org to no avail. It seems I must send two separate e- 
mails, one with the information to bug-id@ and the other with the  
commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Is it really how I should do, or is there a more correct way to proceed?

Greetings, Thibaut.



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Re: RFC: Howto exclude config.sub and config.guess updates from .diff.gz

2008-02-12 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Montag, den 11.02.2008, 19:48 +0100 schrieb Bernhard R. Link:
 * Daniel Leidert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080211 15:21]:
  If you care
  and if you want to avoid this: preserve the original config.* scripts
  and put them back in the clean-target. This increases the whole
  debian/rules file for around 4 lines.
 
 much easier: just delete in the clean target and put there at the
 beginning of the configuring target.

This had been suggested earlier in this thread:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2008/02/msg00220.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2008/02/msg00225.html

Regards, Daniel


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Re: ITR: ustr (updated package)

2008-02-12 Thread Václav Ovsík
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:02:40AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 10:43 +0100, Václav Ovsík wrote:
  Dear mentors,
  
  I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0.3-2
  of my package ustr.
  
  It builds these binary packages:
   libustr-1.0-1 - Micro string library: shared library
   libustr-1.0-1-dbg - Micro string library: debugging symbols
   libustr-dev - Micro string library: development stuff
 
 Micro string library: development headers
 would be preferable.

Should be discussed further. This package contains besides header files
C source files too. Ustr is not ordinary library. The ustr code can be
completely included into users code (using ustr-import utility).
There is no dependency in this mode of use.
I decided for development stuff because of this.

   libustr-doc - Micro string library: documentation
  
  Description: ustr (Micro string library) is a string API for C. It has
   tiny overhead over just plain strdup(), is much safer, is easier to
   use, is faster for many operations, can be used with read-only or
   automatically allocated data. You don't even need to link to the
   library to use it (so there are no dependencies).
 
 Good, that's the kind of RFS I like to see - just one thing missing,
 this is an existing package:
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/ustr.html

Thanks, next time ;)

 That can be inferred from the bug fix description but the knowledge of
 whether this is a new package (with an ITP) or an existing package is
 very useful to a potential sponsor so it is as well to put it in a
 prominent place in the RFS.


The subject indicates this, but link can be useful, ok.

  Upstream author: James Antill
  
  Homepage: http://www.and.org/ustr/
  
  This library is the requisite for latest libsemanage, the library of
  the SELinux code suite.
 
 ... and already in Debian. (this is the most natural place for the
 missing comment to appear).

Yes. Latest package libsemanage 2.0.9-1 uses it already.

sid:~# apt-cache rdepends libustr-1.0-1
libustr-1.0-1
Reverse Depends:
  libsemanage1
  python-semanage
  libustr-dev
  libustr-1.0-1-dbg
  libsemanage1-dev
  libsemanage1

...
 I'll review it this week. (Bit busy with Emdebian today).

Thanks for suggestions.
Cheers
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Re: ITR: ustr (update for existing package)

2008-02-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 12:07 +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
 Hey Neil,
 
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:02:40AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
  Good, that's the kind of RFS I like to see - just one thing missing,
  this is an existing package:
  http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/ustr.html
 
 just a quick note (and question): He indicated that this package isn't
 new, by using the updated package subject. Shouldn't this be suffice?

I'd say not quite. (updated package) can refer to an ITP that has been
partially reviewed, re-uploaded to mentors and is awaiting further
review before the first upload to Debian.

It's getting a bit like splitting hairs from here on but I suppose the
full answer would be to use:

RFS: $package (updated NEW package)
RFS: $package (updated existing package)
or (update for existing package)

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Re: ITR: ustr (updated package)

2008-02-12 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi

Dne Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:02:40 +
Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

 That can be inferred from the bug fix description but the knowledge of
 whether this is a new package (with an ITP) or an existing package is
 very useful to a potential sponsor so it is as well to put it in a
 prominent place in the RFS.

Have you read subject? :-)

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Re: ITR: ustr (updated package)

2008-02-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 10:43 +0100, Václav Ovsík wrote:
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0.3-2
 of my package ustr.
 
 It builds these binary packages:
  libustr-1.0-1 - Micro string library: shared library
  libustr-1.0-1-dbg - Micro string library: debugging symbols
  libustr-dev - Micro string library: development stuff

Micro string library: development headers
would be preferable.

  libustr-doc - Micro string library: documentation
 
 Description: ustr (Micro string library) is a string API for C. It has
  tiny overhead over just plain strdup(), is much safer, is easier to
  use, is faster for many operations, can be used with read-only or
  automatically allocated data. You don't even need to link to the
  library to use it (so there are no dependencies).

Good, that's the kind of RFS I like to see - just one thing missing,
this is an existing package:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/ustr.html

That can be inferred from the bug fix description but the knowledge of
whether this is a new package (with an ITP) or an existing package is
very useful to a potential sponsor so it is as well to put it in a
prominent place in the RFS.

 
 Upstream author: James Antill
 
 Homepage: http://www.and.org/ustr/
 
 This library is the requisite for latest libsemanage, the library of
 the SELinux code suite.

... and already in Debian. (this is the most natural place for the
missing comment to appear).

 
 Ustr is packaged using CDBS. Package was rebuild using pbuilder.
 Lintian v1.23.43 on ustr_1.0.3-2_i386.changes reports nothing.
 
 Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/zito-guest/pkg-ustr.git
 Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/~zito-guest/pkg-ustr.git
 
 The upload would fix an important bug 465005
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=465005
 - bashism in the utility script ustr-import.
 It also cleans manpages a bit.
 
 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
 - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/ustr
 - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
 contrib non-free
 - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/ustr/ustr_1.0.3-2.dsc
 
 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.
 

I'll review it this week. (Bit busy with Emdebian today).

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Re: ITR: ustr (updated package)

2008-02-12 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hey Neil,

On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 11:02:40AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
 Good, that's the kind of RFS I like to see - just one thing missing,
 this is an existing package:
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/ustr.html

just a quick note (and question): He indicated that this package isn't
new, by using the updated package subject. Shouldn't this be suffice?

Best Regards,
Patrick


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signed mails to control@ (was: How to set BTS tags nicely)

2008-02-12 Thread Nico Golde
Hi David,
* David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-12 14:50]:
[...] 
 I usually sign all my emails -- but when I include commands to the BTS I 
 cannot
 do that, as the GPG header is confusing the server.
 
 So, this is how you would do it. I add more to the original question: is it
 possible to send GPG-signed mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What problems did you experience? Cause I sign all my mails 
no matter if they go to the control address or not and never 
had any problem with that.

Kind regards
Nico
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