Re: building debug and release with new style debhelper

2013-04-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 06:52:43PM +0200, Richard Ulrich wrote:
   The problem I'm facin is that I don't know how to handle the fact
   that I want to build debug and release with cmake.
  
  I think you should instead drop the debug build, those aren't shipped
  in Debian usually.
 
 That's not really what I want. The packages I'm building (richbool and
 modassert) are mainly concerned with providing information about failed
 asserts in debug code. So the debug builds are actually more important
 than the release ones.
Are release builds still necessary then? 

 I'm even considering to make the librichbool-dev package depend on the
 librichbool-dbg package.
Note that -dbg packages usually contain only detached debug symbols, and
you seem to build two separate libraries with the same soname but
different compilation options and package them into libfoo and libfoo-dbg,
is that true?

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Bug#697241: marked as done (RFS: libscalar-does-perl/0.11-01-1 [ITP])

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I am looking for a sponsor for my package libscalar-does-perl

* Package name: libscalar-does-perl
  Version : 0.11-01-1
  Upstream Author : Toby Inkster toby...@cpan.org
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/~tobyink/Scalar-Does/
* License : Artistic
  Section : perl

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Changes since the last upload:

* Initial Release. (Closes: #697236)


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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :-

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Cameron Hart cameron.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for promoting my premake 4 RFS Shirish :)

 I'd also point out that the open source game 0ad uses premake 4 and
 the Bullet physics library recently moved from cmake to premake 4
 (though cmake is still supported for now).

 On 2 February 2013 01:12, shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Can anybody look and sponsor an ITP done by a gentleman for premake 4 ?

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696899

 If for nothing else, then it's needed to play ToME

 http://www.te4.org/requirements

 You also need the following tools:

 a C compiler (like GNU GCC or mingw for windows)
 premake4

 and on wnpp.debian.net there are quite a few installs by people.

 http://wnpp.debian.net/?type[]=ITPproject=premakedescription=owner[]=yesowner[]=nocol[]=dustcol[]=typecol[]=descriptioncol[]=installssort=project

 Looking forward to somebody doing the same.

 P.S. :- I did check if it's stuck in ftp-master NEW queue or something
 but no, it's not there.

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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
A quick look - sorry for the terse feedback. I don't know much about cdbs which
limits my ability to review it very well.

  • the changelog targets unstable, but should target experimental if you
want an upload prior to wheezy's release
  • Personally in the prior-to-first-upload stage I think it's better to
not have multiple versions for each package revision, i.e., continually
create 4.3-1 versions with a single changelog entry, and to use the
versions only to distinguish instances of the package uploaded to the
main archive.
  • is the double colon in the rules file some kind of cdbs thing?
  • the source package contains debian/stamp-makefile-check
  • rename-changelog.diff: this is the wrong approach to rename a file.
Move it in the debian/rules file instead (after dh_installdocs would
be run. I don't know much about cdbs so not sure which rule to override)


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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread Vincent Cheng
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:

   • is the double colon in the rules file some kind of cdbs thing?
I'm curious about that too. I've seen double colons in cdbs
debian/rules files before, but I don't understand what having double
colons is supposed to do for you...

   • rename-changelog.diff: this is the wrong approach to rename a file.
 Move it in the debian/rules file instead (after dh_installdocs would
 be run. I don't know much about cdbs so not sure which rule to override)


You're looking for DEB_INSTALL_CHANGELOGS_ALL := CHANGES.txt (which
is already in debian/rules). Incidentally, rename-changelog.diff isn't
even listed in the series file; why not just drop it?

Regards,
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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 11:47:53AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 A quick look - sorry for the terse feedback. I don't know much about cdbs 
 which
 limits my ability to review it very well.
 
   • the changelog targets unstable, but should target experimental if you
 want an upload prior to wheezy's release

Just for the record, I'm not really sure whether this is true for new
packages - I think newborn packages are not considered for testing
migration at all, are they?

G'luck,
Peter

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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread Praveen A
2013/4/3 Peter Pentchev r...@ringlet.net:
 On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 11:47:53AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 A quick look - sorry for the terse feedback. I don't know much about cdbs 
 which
 limits my ability to review it very well.

   • the changelog targets unstable, but should target experimental if you
 want an upload prior to wheezy's release

 Just for the record, I'm not really sure whether this is true for new
 packages - I think newborn packages are not considered for testing
 migration at all, are they?

New packages can be targeted for unstable. I have uploaded many
packages in unstable after freeze
http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/ruby-delorean/news/20130318T230010Z.html

New versions of existing packages, not fixing rc bugs cannot be
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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread Tobias Hansen

On 04/03/2013 01:12 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote:

On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 11:47:53AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

A quick look - sorry for the terse feedback. I don't know much about cdbs which
limits my ability to review it very well.

   • the changelog targets unstable, but should target experimental if you
 want an upload prior to wheezy's release


Just for the record, I'm not really sure whether this is true for new
packages - I think newborn packages are not considered for testing
migration at all, are they?


premake 3.7 is in Wheezy. Are they both needed?

Cheers,
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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread Tobias Hansen

On 04/03/2013 01:57 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote:

On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 01:27:48PM +0200, Tobias Hansen wrote:

On 04/03/2013 01:12 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote:

On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 11:47:53AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

A quick look - sorry for the terse feedback. I don't know much about cdbs which
limits my ability to review it very well.

   • the changelog targets unstable, but should target experimental if you
 want an upload prior to wheezy's release


Just for the record, I'm not really sure whether this is true for new
packages - I think newborn packages are not considered for testing
migration at all, are they?


premake 3.7 is in Wheezy. Are they both needed?


I think the submitter explained that in the first message in
the bug log - http://bugs.debian.org/696899#5 :)


The only reason why packages in unstable should not be updated is to 
keep the possibility to do updates of wheezy packages over unstable. New 
leafish packages in unstable are no problem at all.



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Bug#696385: RFS: astromenace/1.3.1+ds-1 [ITP] -- hardcore 3D space shooter with spaceship upgrade possibilities

2013-04-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi Boris,

In the rules file for astromenace data, you list fonts in
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation/, but the files there are
symlinks to files in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/liberation/. The symlinks
are provided by a compatility package which is not listed in your
build-dependencies, so building fails in a clean chroot. Can you fix that?

There is a more serious problem. You copy font files which end-up
(AFAIU) in gamedata.vfs. You therefore need to abide by the
redistribution terms of the license of those fonts. The Debian way of
insuring that in a generic manner (for DFSG-free material) would be to
list the font packages in Built-Using. This ensures that the user can
get the source for whatever ended-up in the binary package.

The problem here is that astromenace-data is not in main but in
non-free. I'm not sure that the Built-Using mechanism is sufficient to
ensure that the source package for the fonts remain in the archive. Can
you check that on -devel or -legal?

Else I see two solutions:

 - copy (part of) the font source packages in astromenace-data (I didn't
check: if the ttf files are their own source, you only need to copy them
and amend debian/copyright);

 - pack gamedata.vfs on the end-user system to avoid redistribution.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#679049: marked as done (RFS: qpxtool/0.7.1.002-6 [QA] -- CD/DVD quality checker)

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It builds those binary packages:
  libqpx-dev - CD/DVD quality checker (development files)
  libqpx0 - CD/DVD quality checker (shared libraries)
  pxfw - Plextor firmware updater
  qpxtool - CD/DVD quality checker

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Changes in the package:

qpxtool (0.7.1.002-6) unstable; urgency=low

  * QA upload.
  * Bumped Standards-Version to 3.9.3 (was 3.9.2).
  * Bumped debhelper version to 9 (was 7.0.50~); updated debian/compat.
  * Added file debian/patches/05-add-hardening-flags-in-compiler-options.patch.
  * Updated debian/rules: added hardening flags in compiler options.
  * Changed build dependency from libpng12-dev to libpng-dev.
Added file debian/patches/04-fix-build-with-libpng15.patch.
Added small hack in debian/rules (see LIBPNG_VER variable).
Build with libpng version 1.5.10 was tested successfully.
(Closes: #662481, #648127)
  * Used [kfreebsd-any] instead of hardcoded list of kFreeBSD architectures
[kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64] in build dependency. (Closes: #634714)
  * File debian/copyright was updated in according to Copyright format 1.0.
  * Fixed such lintian warnings and notes:
- out-of-date-copyright-format-uri
- hardening-no-relro and hardening-no-fortify-functions

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Best regards,
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Bug#704631: RFS: monobristol/0.60.3-2.1 [NMU] [RC]

2013-04-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: important


Dear mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for my package monobristol

 * Package name: monobristol
   Version : 0.60.3-2.1
   Upstream Author : David Horvath d...@dacr.hu
 * URL : http://dacr.hu/monobristol
 * License : GPL-3+
   Section : sound

  It builds those binary packages:

monobristol - simple GUI for Bristol

  To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
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  http://mentors.debian.net/package/monobristol

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Bug#696899: can anybody sponsor an ITP for premake4 ?

2013-04-03 Thread Cameron Hart
Replying to Jonathan's original message since it covered most things.

On 3 April 2013 21:47, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 A quick look - sorry for the terse feedback. I don't know much about cdbs 
 which
 limits my ability to review it very well.

   • the changelog targets unstable, but should target experimental if you
 want an upload prior to wheezy's release

From the discussion in the other messages it sounds like unstable is
OK for a new package?

   • Personally in the prior-to-first-upload stage I think it's better to
 not have multiple versions for each package revision, i.e., continually
 create 4.3-1 versions with a single changelog entry, and to use the
 versions only to distinguish instances of the package uploaded to the
 main archive.

This wasn't all that clear in the docs I read, but what you are saying
makes sense. Now the trouble is I'm not sure how to get rid of the
4.3-2 version that's on mentors. I can delete the premake4 mentors
page which seems like it's probably the way to go, but makes me
slightly nervous. Can anyone advise on how to best remove the 4.3-2
upload?

   • is the double colon in the rules file some kind of cdbs thing?

Yes. I don't know about the internals of cdbs but the build failed without it.

   • the source package contains debian/stamp-makefile-check

I've removed this

   • rename-changelog.diff: this is the wrong approach to rename a file.
 Move it in the debian/rules file instead (after dh_installdocs would
 be run. I don't know much about cdbs so not sure which rule to override)

As pointed out by Vincent, this is no longer used. I've removed the file.

I haven't uploaded my changes yet, I thought I'd wait and see if
anyone can advise me on removing the 4.3-2 version.


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Deleting uploads from mentors

2013-04-03 Thread Cameron Hart
Hi mentors,

Last time I uploaded some fixes to my package
(http://mentors.debian.net/package/premake4) to mentors I bumped the
version number to 4.3-2. I've been advised (see
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696899#64) that I
shouldn't have done that since the package hasn't been uploaded to
unstable yet. That makes sense, but it wasn't entirely clear to me at
the time.

So I'd like to delete the 4.3-2 upload, the only delete option I can
see is to delete the whole package page from
http://mentors.debian.net/package/premake4. Is this an OK way to get
rid of it, delete the page and then re-upload?

Thanks,

Cameron


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Re: Deleting uploads from mentors

2013-04-03 Thread Vincent Cheng
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Cameron Hart cameron.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi mentors,

 Last time I uploaded some fixes to my package
 (http://mentors.debian.net/package/premake4) to mentors I bumped the
 version number to 4.3-2. I've been advised (see
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696899#64) that I
 shouldn't have done that since the package hasn't been uploaded to
 unstable yet. That makes sense, but it wasn't entirely clear to me at
 the time.

 So I'd like to delete the 4.3-2 upload, the only delete option I can
 see is to delete the whole package page from
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/premake4. Is this an OK way to get
 rid of it, delete the page and then re-upload?

You can just re-upload your package as-is (with the same version, i.e.
4.3-1) and it'll overwrite what you've already uploaded, hence there's
no need to delete your old package. Just keep in mind that the
official repositories don't work like this though, so don't get used
to it.

Regards,
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Re: building debug and release with new style debhelper

2013-04-03 Thread Richard Ulrich
Am Mittwoch, den 03.04.2013, 09:33 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise:
 
  That's not really what I want. The packages I'm building (richbool and
  modassert) are mainly concerned with providing information about failed
  asserts in debug code. So the debug builds are actually more important
  than the release ones.
  I'm even considering to make the librichbool-dev package depend on the
  librichbool-dbg package.
 
 H.
 
  I started mixing in the overrides like below (not working yet).
  Am I on the right path with that?
 
 How about this (untested):
 
 %:
  dh $@ --buildsystem cmake --builddirectory=build-debian-release
  dh $@ --buildsystem cmake --builddirectory=build-debian-debug
 
 override_dh_auto_configure:
  dh_auto_configure --builddirectory=build-debian-release --
 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE:STRING=Release
  dh_auto_configure --builddirectory=build-debian-debug --
 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE:STRING=Debug

I had to add some more overrides, but that got me on the right
direction. It looks now a lot cleaner than what I tried previously.

Thanks
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Bug#704643: RFS: pidgin-latex/1.5.0-1

2013-04-03 Thread Elías Alejandro
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  Dear mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for my package pidgin-latex

 * Package name: pidgin-latex
   Version : 1.5.0-1
   Upstream Author : Benjamin Moll q...@users.sourceforge.net
 * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-latex
 * License : GPL-2+
   Section : net

  It builds those binary packages:

pidgin-latex - Pidgin plugin to display LaTeX formulas

  To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
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  More information about hello can be obtained from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-latex

  Changes since the last upload:

* New upstream release
* Updated Standards-Version to 3.9.4
* Bump debhelper compat to 9
* Upstream fixed background color in rendered images (Closes: #699009)
* debian/copyright
  + Updated copyright format
* debian/rules
  + Append CPPFLAGS to CFLAGS


  Regards,

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Re: building debug and release with new style debhelper

2013-04-03 Thread Richard Ulrich
Am Mittwoch, den 03.04.2013, 15:38 +0600 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin:
The problem I'm facin is that I don't know how to handle the fact
that I want to build debug and release with cmake.
   
   I think you should instead drop the debug build, those aren't shipped
   in Debian usually.
  
  That's not really what I want. The packages I'm building (richbool and
  modassert) are mainly concerned with providing information about failed
  asserts in debug code. So the debug builds are actually more important
  than the release ones.
 Are release builds still necessary then? 
I would say so. If an application is built in debug, it links the debug
libs, and gets all the verbose output. If an application is built in
release, it links the release build, which still can have some
reporting, but reduced.

  I'm even considering to make the librichbool-dev package depend on the
  librichbool-dbg package.
 Note that -dbg packages usually contain only detached debug symbols, and
 you seem to build two separate libraries with the same soname but
 different compilation options and package them into libfoo and libfoo-dbg,
 is that true?
Ok, then I pack the debug lib into the dev package.

Rgds
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Bug#704644: RFS: radiotray/0.7.3-1

2013-04-03 Thread Elías Alejandro
Package: sponsorship-requests
  Severity: normal

  Dear mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for my package radiotray

 * Package name: radiotray
   Version : 0.7.3-1
   Upstream Author : Carlos Ribeiro carlosmribei...@gmail.com
 * URL : http://radiotray.sourceforge.net/
 * License : GPL-1+
   Section : sound

  It builds those binary packages:

radiotray  - online radio streaming player

  To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/radiotray


  Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/radiotray/radiotray_0.7.3-1.dsc

  More information about radiotray can be obtained from 
http://radiotray.sourceforge.net/
 
  Also:
   Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/collab-maint/radiotray.git
   Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/radiotray.git;a=summary

  Changes since the last upload:

* New upstream release (Closes: #703385)
* Bump debhelper to 9
* debian/control
  + Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.4
* debian/copyright
  + Added new copyright owners


  Regards,

   Elías Alejandro


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Re: building debug and release with new style debhelper

2013-04-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 12:17:04AM +0200, Richard Ulrich wrote:
 The problem I'm facin is that I don't know how to handle the fact
 that I want to build debug and release with cmake.

I think you should instead drop the debug build, those aren't shipped
in Debian usually.
   
   That's not really what I want. The packages I'm building (richbool and
   modassert) are mainly concerned with providing information about failed
   asserts in debug code. So the debug builds are actually more important
   than the release ones.
  Are release builds still necessary then? 
 I would say so. If an application is built in debug, it links the debug
 libs, and gets all the verbose output. If an application is built in
 release, it links the release build, which still can have some
 reporting, but reduced.
 
   I'm even considering to make the librichbool-dev package depend on the
   librichbool-dbg package.
  Note that -dbg packages usually contain only detached debug symbols, and
  you seem to build two separate libraries with the same soname but
  different compilation options and package them into libfoo and libfoo-dbg,
  is that true?
 Ok, then I pack the debug lib into the dev package.
So there are two shared libs with different sonames?

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Unidentified subject!

2013-04-03 Thread Marwan Tanager
Hi all.

I'm a recent subscriber to the Debian mentors and developers lists, and I 
notice that some ITP requests are sent to debian-devel against wnpp and others 
to debian-mentors against sponsorship-requests.

Could someone please clarify under what conditions should ITP requests be sent 
to either lists and against either pseudo-packages, because the requests on 
both lists look pretty similar?

Thanks for your time.


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ITP requests to debian-devel vs debian-mentors?

2013-04-03 Thread Marwan Tanager
Hi all.

I'm a recent subscriber to the Debian mentors and developers lists, and I 
notice that some ITP requests are sent to debian-devel against wnpp and others 
to debian-mentors against sponsorship-requests.

Could someone please clarify under what conditions should ITP requests be sent 
to either lists and against either pseudo-packages, because the requests on 
both lists look pretty similar?

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Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-04-03 Thread Vincent Cheng
Hi Marwan,

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Marwan Tanager marwan.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.

 I'm a recent subscriber to the Debian mentors and developers lists, and I
 notice that some ITP requests are sent to debian-devel against wnpp and others
 to debian-mentors against sponsorship-requests.

 Could someone please clarify under what conditions should ITP requests be sent
 to either lists and against either pseudo-packages, because the requests on
 both lists look pretty similar?

ITP bug reports are (or at least should) always be cc-ed to
debian-devel; they can be filed by both DDs and non-DDs.

Typically, package maintainers who are not either DDs or DMs, i.e. do
not have upload rights to the Debian archive, will then file a RFS
(request for sponsorship) bug report to ask for a DD to review and
upload their package; these requests are always filed under the
sponsorship-requests pseudo-package and cc-ed to debian-mentors.

Regards,
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Re: ITP to debian-devel vs. debian-mentors?

2013-04-03 Thread Marwan Tanager
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 08:38:56PM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote:
 Hi Marwan,
 
 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Marwan Tanager marwan.t...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all.
 
  I'm a recent subscriber to the Debian mentors and developers lists, and I
  notice that some ITP requests are sent to debian-devel against wnpp and 
  others
  to debian-mentors against sponsorship-requests.
 
  Could someone please clarify under what conditions should ITP requests be 
  sent
  to either lists and against either pseudo-packages, because the requests on
  both lists look pretty similar?
 
 ITP bug reports are (or at least should) always be cc-ed to
 debian-devel; they can be filed by both DDs and non-DDs.
 
 Typically, package maintainers who are not either DDs or DMs, i.e. do
 not have upload rights to the Debian archive, will then file a RFS
 (request for sponsorship) bug report to ask for a DD to review and
 upload their package; these requests are always filed under the
 sponsorship-requests pseudo-package and cc-ed to debian-mentors.

Thanks, Vincent.

So, you're saying that if I've upload rights, I should file the report against 
wnpp and cc debian-devel?


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Re: ITP to debian-devel vs. debian-mentors?

2013-04-03 Thread Vincent Cheng
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Marwan Tanager marwan.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 08:38:56PM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote:
 Hi Marwan,

 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Marwan Tanager marwan.t...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all.
 
  I'm a recent subscriber to the Debian mentors and developers lists, and I
  notice that some ITP requests are sent to debian-devel against wnpp and 
  others
  to debian-mentors against sponsorship-requests.
 
  Could someone please clarify under what conditions should ITP requests be 
  sent
  to either lists and against either pseudo-packages, because the requests on
  both lists look pretty similar?

 ITP bug reports are (or at least should) always be cc-ed to
 debian-devel; they can be filed by both DDs and non-DDs.

 Typically, package maintainers who are not either DDs or DMs, i.e. do
 not have upload rights to the Debian archive, will then file a RFS
 (request for sponsorship) bug report to ask for a DD to review and
 upload their package; these requests are always filed under the
 sponsorship-requests pseudo-package and cc-ed to debian-mentors.

 Thanks, Vincent.

 So, you're saying that if I've upload rights, I should file the report against
 wnpp and cc debian-devel?

Regardless of whether or not you have upload rights, you should file
an ITP report against wnpp and cc debian-devel. Also note that I say
should instead of must; it's not a requirement for an ITP bug to
be filed prior to uploading a new package (it's not mandated by
Policy, but dev-ref [1] instead), but it's fairly common practice and
there's no reason not to do so.

If all this is still confusing to you, just use reportbug; it'll take
care of assigning your report to the right package and
X-Debbugs-CC-ing it to the right lists.

Regards,
Vincent

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#newpackage


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Re: ITP to debian-devel vs. debian-mentors?

2013-04-03 Thread Marwan Tanager
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 09:00:52PM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Marwan Tanager marwan.t...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 08:38:56PM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote:
  Hi Marwan,
 
  On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Marwan Tanager marwan.t...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
   Hi all.
  
   I'm a recent subscriber to the Debian mentors and developers lists, and I
   notice that some ITP requests are sent to debian-devel against wnpp and 
   others
   to debian-mentors against sponsorship-requests.
  
   Could someone please clarify under what conditions should ITP requests 
   be sent
   to either lists and against either pseudo-packages, because the requests 
   on
   both lists look pretty similar?
 
  ITP bug reports are (or at least should) always be cc-ed to
  debian-devel; they can be filed by both DDs and non-DDs.
 
  Typically, package maintainers who are not either DDs or DMs, i.e. do
  not have upload rights to the Debian archive, will then file a RFS
  (request for sponsorship) bug report to ask for a DD to review and
  upload their package; these requests are always filed under the
  sponsorship-requests pseudo-package and cc-ed to debian-mentors.
 
  Thanks, Vincent.
 
  So, you're saying that if I've upload rights, I should file the report 
  against
  wnpp and cc debian-devel?
 
 Regardless of whether or not you have upload rights, you should file
 an ITP report against wnpp and cc debian-devel. Also note that I say
 should instead of must; it's not a requirement for an ITP bug to
 be filed prior to uploading a new package (it's not mandated by
 Policy, but dev-ref [1] instead), but it's fairly common practice and
 there's no reason not to do so.

Well, now I got it. Thanks.


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Re: ITP requests to debian-devel vs debian-mentors?

2013-04-03 Thread Paul Wise
ITP requests go to the wnpp package (and reportbug automatically adds
the header X-Debbugs-CC: debian-de...@lists.debian.org). Any
additional destinations are a result of the submitter adding more
locations to X-Debbugs-CC.

http://wiki.debian.org/WNPP
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

RFS requests (subject-tagged as ITA/ITP/RC/etc) go to
sponsorship-requests. Bugs filed there go to
package-sponsorship-reque...@lists.debian.org. Via some other
mechanism (the PTS I think) the non-control messages are forwarded to
the debian-mentors list.

http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS

When you have decided that you want to add a specific piece of
software to Debian, check the archive and existing ITPs. Unless there
is one already, file an ITP before you start doing work. This is to
avoid duplication of effort. If there is an ITP you might want to
contact the ITP owner to find out how you can help out.

Once you have a package ready and if you don't already have a sponsor,
upload to mentors and file an RFS request. Please read this page for
more info about the process:

http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers

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Re: ITP requests to debian-devel vs debian-mentors?

2013-04-03 Thread Marwan Tanager
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 12:31:10PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 ITP requests go to the wnpp package (and reportbug automatically adds
 the header X-Debbugs-CC: debian-de...@lists.debian.org). Any
 additional destinations are a result of the submitter adding more
 locations to X-Debbugs-CC.
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/WNPP
 http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
 
 RFS requests (subject-tagged as ITA/ITP/RC/etc) go to
 sponsorship-requests. Bugs filed there go to
 package-sponsorship-reque...@lists.debian.org. Via some other
 mechanism (the PTS I think) the non-control messages are forwarded to
 the debian-mentors list.
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS
 
 When you have decided that you want to add a specific piece of
 software to Debian, check the archive and existing ITPs. Unless there
 is one already, file an ITP before you start doing work. This is to
 avoid duplication of effort. If there is an ITP you might want to
 contact the ITP owner to find out how you can help out.
 
 Once you have a package ready and if you don't already have a sponsor,
 upload to mentors and file an RFS request. Please read this page for
 more info about the process:
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers

Thanks very much, Paul for the elaboration and the references. Much 
appreciated.


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Re: ITP requests to debian-devel vs debian-mentors?

2013-04-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Marwan Tanager wrote:

 Thanks very much, Paul for the elaboration and the references. Much
 appreciated.

No probs. No need to CC me, I'm subscribed to the list:

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