Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-02-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

On 02/04/2013 01:32 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote:

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:25 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de wrote:

No, unfortunately the package is not ok yet. When I install the package
b43-fwcutter, it will prompt the debconf question in Spanish.

Really?
Where to check the source package content?


Yes, really. Check:

 b43-fwcutter-017/debian/po/en.po

I presume that this might come due to the fact that the .po file is 
called en.po instead of es.po and the Spanish translation is invoked 
when the locale is set to English (which is the case for me), I will 
test that. I haven't used debconf translations before.



Also, after installing b43-fwcutter, nothing further happens. I have to
install the firmware-b43-debs manually which is very confusing. Ideally, the
package b43-fwcutter should detect the hardware and prompt for the
installation of the proper package or at least depend on them.

b43-fwcutter itself is just a firmware cutter as its name suggests.
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Install_b43-fwcutter


The thing is that absolutely nothing happens when installing the 
b43-fwcutter which I found confusing. So, obviously people have to 
ignore this package and always install the installer packages. This 
should be mentioned at least in the README.Debian or better in the 
package description.


I also don't see why you can't just merge everything into one binary 
package. You install a package b43-firmware, it detects your hardware 
in the preinst script and downloads and installs the firmware 
accordingly. If the detection fails, it should prompt whether to 
download the firmware anyway and then abort the installation or continue 
the installation, depending on the user choice.


But maybe that's just me. I'd be happy if you have convincing arguments 
why it should be handled differently.


Cheers,

Adrian

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Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-02-04 Thread Daniel Echeverry
2013/2/4 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de

 On 02/04/2013 01:32 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:25 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de wrote:

 No, unfortunately the package is not ok yet. When I install the package
 b43-fwcutter, it will prompt the debconf question in Spanish.

 Really?
 Where to check the source package content?


 Yes, really. Check:

  b43-fwcutter-017/debian/po/en.**po

 I presume that this might come due to the fact that the .po file is called
 en.po instead of es.po and the Spanish translation is invoked when the
 locale is set to English (which is the case for me), I will test that. I
 haven't used debconf translations before.


You are right!, my mistake, sorry! (fixed)




  Also, after installing b43-fwcutter, nothing further happens. I have to
 install the firmware-b43-debs manually which is very confusing. Ideally,
 the
 package b43-fwcutter should detect the hardware and prompt for the
 installation of the proper package or at least depend on them.

 b43-fwcutter itself is just a firmware cutter as its name suggests.
 http://linuxwireless.org/en/**users/Drivers/b43#Install_b43-**fwcutterhttp://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Install_b43-fwcutter


 The thing is that absolutely nothing happens when installing the
 b43-fwcutter which I found confusing. So, obviously people have to ignore
 this package and always install the installer packages. This should be
 mentioned at least in the README.Debian or better in the package
 description.

 I also don't see why you can't just merge everything into one binary
 package. You install a package b43-firmware, it detects your hardware in
 the preinst script and downloads and installs the firmware accordingly. If
 the detection fails, it should prompt whether to download the firmware
 anyway and then abort the installation or continue the installation,
 depending on the user choice.


this part of the changelog[1], explains why it was necessary to split the
package, however I think this will be no problem for us because the driver
supports all cards with the Kerner 3.2 (which is in wheezy)

Adrian and I are working on a new version of b43-fwcutter without virtual
packages, which installed the appropriate firmware, depending on each card

This will be more clear to users :)

[1]: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/582ce9f5/


 But maybe that's just me. I'd be happy if you have convincing arguments
 why it should be handled differently.


 Cheers,

 Adrian

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Re: Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-02-04 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 13:45 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
 On 02/04/2013 01:32 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote:

 b43-fwcutter itself is just a firmware cutter as its name suggests.
 http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Install_b43-fwcutter
 
 The thing is that absolutely nothing happens when installing the
 b43-fwcutter which I found confusing. So, obviously people have to
 ignore this package and always install the installer packages. This
 should be mentioned at least in the README.Debian or better in the
 package description.
 
 I also don't see why you can't just merge everything into one binary
 package. You install a package b43-firmware, it detects your
 hardware in the preinst script and downloads and installs the
 firmware accordingly. If the detection fails, it should prompt
 whether to download the firmware anyway and then abort the
 installation or continue the installation, depending on the user
 choice.
 
 But maybe that's just me. I'd be happy if you have convincing
 arguments why it should be handled differently.

There is no reason why users shouldn't be able to use b43-fwcutter on systems
that do not have the hardware in question installed. The obvious use case is
to be able to extract the firmware for another system that does not have a
working internet connection in order to copy it via a thumbdrive.

I find the distinction into b43-fwcutter and the -installer packages to be
clear and correct. One problem with the b43-fwcutter package is its
description in that it states:

--- snip ---
Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
fwcutter is a tool which can extract firmware from various source files.
It's written for BCM43xx driver files.
It grabs firmware for BCM43xx from website and install it.
--- snip ---
   ^^
Which should be corrected.
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Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Echeverry
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: normal

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package b43-fwcutter

 * Package name: b43-fwcutter
 * Version : 1:017-1
 * Upstream Author : Martin Langer martin-lan...@gmx.de
 * URL : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
 * License : BSD-2-Clause
 * Section : utils

It builds those binary packages:

b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
firmware-b43-installer - Installer package for firmware for the b43 driver
firmware-b43legacy-installer - Installer package for firmware for the
b43legacy driver

To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:
http://mentors.debian.net/package/b43-fwcutter

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/b/b43-fwcutter/b43-fwcutter_017-1.dsc

Changes since the last upload:

  * New upstream release.
  * New Maintainer. Closes: #698759
  * debian/control
+ Set myself as Maintainer.
+ Remove firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package. Closes: #657837
  + Firmware-b43-installer now supports BCM4312.
+ Update firmware-b43-installer description.
+ Change debhelper to 9 in B-D.
+ Bump Standard Versions 3.9.4.
+ Switch compat level 8 to 9.
+ Remove dm-upload field.
+ Remove conflict field.
+ Add po-debconf and debconf in B-D.
  * debian/rules
+ Add security Flags.
+ Use tiny rules.
  * Remove firmware-b43-lpphy-installer.* files.
  * Firmware-b43-installer now support BCM4331. Closes: #682427
  * Add debconf support. Thanks to Gaudenz. Closes: #698348
+ Allow installation without corresponding hardware.
+ Add es.po translation.
  * Update copyright file.
  * Remove debian/series file.
  * Update watch file.
  * Remove README.firmware-b43-lpphy-installer file.

Regards,
Daniel Echeverry

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Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-01-31 Thread Anton Gladky
Hi Daniel,

it looks the package is ok for uploading. But is it ok for you,
if it will be uploaded into experimental, as we are in freeze now?

Thanks,

Anton


2013/1/31 Daniel Echeverry epsilo...@gmail.com:
 Package: sponsorship-requests
 Severity: normal

 Dear mentors,

 I am looking for a sponsor for my package b43-fwcutter

  * Package name: b43-fwcutter
  * Version : 1:017-1
  * Upstream Author : Martin Langer martin-lan...@gmx.de
  * URL : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
  * License : BSD-2-Clause
  * Section : utils

 It builds those binary packages:

 b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
 firmware-b43-installer - Installer package for firmware for the b43 driver
 firmware-b43legacy-installer - Installer package for firmware for the
 b43legacy driver

 To access further information about this package, please visit the following
 URL:

 http://mentors.debian.net/package/b43-fwcutter

 Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

 dget -x
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/b/b43-fwcutter/b43-fwcutter_017-1.dsc

 Changes since the last upload:

   * New upstream release.
   * New Maintainer. Closes: #698759
   * debian/control
 + Set myself as Maintainer.
 + Remove firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package. Closes: #657837
   + Firmware-b43-installer now supports BCM4312.
 + Update firmware-b43-installer description.
 + Change debhelper to 9 in B-D.
 + Bump Standard Versions 3.9.4.
 + Switch compat level 8 to 9.
 + Remove dm-upload field.
 + Remove conflict field.
 + Add po-debconf and debconf in B-D.
   * debian/rules
 + Add security Flags.
 + Use tiny rules.
   * Remove firmware-b43-lpphy-installer.* files.
   * Firmware-b43-installer now support BCM4331. Closes: #682427
   * Add debconf support. Thanks to Gaudenz. Closes: #698348
 + Allow installation without corresponding hardware.
 + Add es.po translation.
   * Update copyright file.
   * Remove debian/series file.
   * Update watch file.
   * Remove README.firmware-b43-lpphy-installer file.

 Regards,
 Daniel Echeverry

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Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Echeverry
Hi Anton,

Right now Adrian is reviewing it, thanks for your offer.

Thank you very much!


2013/1/31 Anton Gladky gladky.an...@gmail.com

 Hi Daniel,

 it looks the package is ok for uploading. But is it ok for you,
 if it will be uploaded into experimental, as we are in freeze now?

 Thanks,

 Anton


 2013/1/31 Daniel Echeverry epsilo...@gmail.com:
  Package: sponsorship-requests
  Severity: normal
 
  Dear mentors,
 
  I am looking for a sponsor for my package b43-fwcutter
 
   * Package name: b43-fwcutter
   * Version : 1:017-1
   * Upstream Author : Martin Langer martin-lan...@gmx.de
   * URL : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
   * License : BSD-2-Clause
   * Section : utils
 
  It builds those binary packages:
 
  b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
  firmware-b43-installer - Installer package for firmware for the b43
 driver
  firmware-b43legacy-installer - Installer package for firmware for the
  b43legacy driver
 
  To access further information about this package, please visit the
 following
  URL:
 
  http://mentors.debian.net/package/b43-fwcutter
 
  Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:
 
  dget -x
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/b/b43-fwcutter/b43-fwcutter_017-1.dsc
 
  Changes since the last upload:
 
* New upstream release.
* New Maintainer. Closes: #698759
* debian/control
  + Set myself as Maintainer.
  + Remove firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package. Closes: #657837
+ Firmware-b43-installer now supports BCM4312.
  + Update firmware-b43-installer description.
  + Change debhelper to 9 in B-D.
  + Bump Standard Versions 3.9.4.
  + Switch compat level 8 to 9.
  + Remove dm-upload field.
  + Remove conflict field.
  + Add po-debconf and debconf in B-D.
* debian/rules
  + Add security Flags.
  + Use tiny rules.
* Remove firmware-b43-lpphy-installer.* files.
* Firmware-b43-installer now support BCM4331. Closes: #682427
* Add debconf support. Thanks to Gaudenz. Closes: #698348
  + Allow installation without corresponding hardware.
  + Add es.po translation.
* Update copyright file.
* Remove debian/series file.
* Update watch file.
* Remove README.firmware-b43-lpphy-installer file.
 
  Regards,
  Daniel Echeverry
 
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Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-01-31 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

On 01/31/2013 10:16 PM, Daniel Echeverry wrote:

Right now Adrian is reviewing it, thanks for your offer.

Thank you very much!


2013/1/31 Anton Gladky gladky.an...@gmail.com
mailto:gladky.an...@gmail.com

Hi Daniel,

it looks the package is ok for uploading. But is it ok for you,
if it will be uploaded into experimental, as we are in freeze now?


No, unfortunately the package is not ok yet. When I install the package 
b43-fwcutter, it will prompt the debconf question in Spanish.


Also, after installing b43-fwcutter, nothing further happens. I have to 
install the firmware-b43-debs manually which is very confusing. Ideally, 
the package b43-fwcutter should detect the hardware and prompt for the 
installation of the proper package or at least depend on them.


And there is also no need for experimental. The package doesn't have any 
RC bugs in testing, so we don't need to resort to experimental due to 
the freeze.


Cheers,

Adrian

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Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-01-31 Thread David Prévot
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Hi,

Le 31/01/2013 17:25, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
 
 And there is also no need for experimental.

Yes there is. Better safe than sorry.

 The package doesn't have any
 RC bugs in testing,

yet…

 so we don't need to resort to experimental due to
 the freeze.

That sound like a misguided advice.

Please, do not upload to unstable packages not aimed for Wheezy during
the freeze* (IOW, thanks to the sponsoree for proposing this upload to
experimental).

Regards

David

P.-S.: *except if they are not already present in Wheezy, or maybe if
the version in Sid is already messed up, which is not the case here.

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Bug#699474: RFS: b43-fwcutter/1:017-1 [ITA]

2013-01-31 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 06:56:03PM -0400, David Prévot wrote:
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 Hi,
 
 Le 31/01/2013 17:25, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
  
  And there is also no need for experimental.
 
 Yes there is. Better safe than sorry.
 
  The package doesn't have any
  RC bugs in testing,
 
 yet…
 
  so we don't need to resort to experimental due to
  the freeze.
 
 That sound like a misguided advice.
 
 Please, do not upload to unstable packages not aimed for Wheezy during
 the freeze* (IOW, thanks to the sponsoree for proposing this upload to
 experimental).

If it's worth anything, I do agree as well.

A few nice things about not breaking unstable:

  - Important bugfixes can be folded in with an RC bugfix upload (sweet)
  - Your package updates will get testing through unstable users, rather
then no testing via TPU (and perhaps resulting in another upload to
TPU)
  - Being able to sleep at night knowing the release team isn't plotting
to frame you for something nasty

 
 Regards
 
 David
 
 P.-S.: *except if they are not already present in Wheezy, or maybe if
 the version in Sid is already messed up, which is not the case here.
 
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