Re: RFS: gremind -- Simple reminder program for GNOME

2009-03-04 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Sebastian Krause may or may not have written...

[snip]
 Being a Tk application tkremind is naturally ugly. When I tried out
 tkremind I didn't really like it.

If this is because of aliased fonts, then installing tk8.5 and, if you can't
get rid of 8.4, setting the 'wish' alternative appropriately will help:
  # update-alternatives --config wish

[snip]
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RFS: ljcrop

2009-04-04 Thread Darren Salt
I'm looking for a sponsor for ljcrop, a graphical front end for the
JPEG-cropping functionality of jpegtran. (This would close ITP bug 521315.)

The package would be lintian-clean but for what I think is a false positive.
lintian (in testing) complains about a dependency on wish, but that can't be
right:
  Depends: wish | tk8.5, libtk-img, libjpeg-progs

The package can be found in http://tartarus.org/~ds/pkg/.

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Re: RFS: ljcrop

2009-04-05 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Tristan Greaves may or may not have written...

 Darren Salt wrote:
 The package would be lintian-clean but for what I think is a false
 positive. lintian (in testing) complains about a dependency on wish, but
 that can't be right:
   Depends: wish | tk8.5, libtk-img, libjpeg-progs

 http://lintian.debian.org/tags/virtual-package-depends-without-real-package-depends.html

 You have in your debian/control file:
   Depends: wish | tk8.5, libtk-img, libjpeg-progs

 As per the warning note, put the real package _first_ ('wish' is the 
 virtual here), i.e.:
   Depends: tk8.5 | wish, libtk-img, libjpeg-progs

Fixed  reuploaded.

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Re: RFS: evilvte (updated package)

2009-09-02 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that gregor herrmann may or may not have written...

[snip]
 In this case VTE based super lightweight terminal emulator or maybe
 lightweight terminal emulator based on VTE might work.

The latter's fine, IMO, but the former should be VTE-based

[snip]
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Re: unable to build gdb from source

2007-08-15 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Kamaraju S Kusumanchi may or may not have written...

 Can some one tell me what I am doing wrong here? I am unable to build gdb
 from source on a machine running sid. I did

 $apt-get source gdb
 $cd gdb-6.6.dfsg/
 $ dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot

 The build log is attached in this email. [...] Any ideas on why this is
 happening? Should I file a bug?

From your build log:

  rmdir /home/raju/downloaded packages source/gdb-6.6.dfsg/objdir
  rmdir: /home/raju/downloaded: No such file or directory
  rmdir: packages: No such file or directory
  rmdir: source/gdb-6.6.dfsg/objdir: No such file or directory

Your problem is a combination of unquoted strings and spaces in
file/directory names; specifically, downloaded packages source. Renaming
that directory so that its name contains no spaces (actually, no characters
which have special meaning to the shell) will be enough to work around the
problem.

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Re: RFS: Kenta Cho's games

2007-09-09 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Miriam Ruiz may or may not have written...

[snip]
 I finally finished all of Kenta Cho's games, and it is time to find
 sponsorship for them. Some of them are already in the archive, but there
 are new debian releases, so those should be easier:
[snip]

These games, or at least the two which I've had a quick look at, use
GL_LINE_SMOOTH which, for r300, is currently implemented in software. This
causes these games to be unplayably slow due to their reliance on line
graphics.

Currently, the solution is to use driconf to globally disable low-impact
fallbacks.

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Re: RFS: uniconvertor

2008-03-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Andreas Wenning may or may not have written...

 On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 01:20 -0200, Mauro Lizaur wrote:
[snip]
 The binary name is uniconv, I think it should be uniconvertor

 The problem is, that inkscape directly uses the name uniconv. If the
 executable is renamed to uniconvertor, inkscape won't pick its existence
 up. So should I change the package name to uniconvertor, and make uniconv
 also work (via symlink)? Or should I just keep the name as uniconv.

If it should be changed, I think that I'd choose to symlink it, file a bug
against inkscape, then (after lenny is released) kill the symlink and have
the package break or conflict with older (presently current) inkscape.

I'd probably go with what a DD says, though. :-)

[snip]
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Re: How to build packages from tarballs without makefiles

2006-04-10 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Carlo Segre may or may not have written...

 On Sun, 9 Apr 2006, David Liontooth wrote:
[snip]
 I need a bit more help -- where do I add them to rules?

   CFLAGS = -Wall -g

 Can I add the Link with line to give

  CFLAGS = -Wall -g -lGLU -lGL -lXmu -lXext -lX11

[snip]
 BTW, a library package may not be the best thing to learn packaging.  A
 package which produces a single executable is much easier.

... and, since it's a library, you *must* add -fPIC to CFLAGS.

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Re: mini-dinstall, repository signing and apt-get authentication

2006-07-28 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Neil Williams may or may not have written...

[snip]
 I'm now trying a brute force method:

 $ cp /home/neil/Release.amd64 ./Release
 $ md5sum Packages  Release
 $ md5sum Packages.gz  Release
 $ echo SHA1:  ./Release
 $ sha1sum Packages  ./Release
 $ sha1sum Packages.gz  ./Release

 then signing the Release file to create Release.gpg

What I use for my repository is attached. (Licence is GPL = v2.)

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#! /bin/sh

i=unstable
ARCH=amd64

exec Release

cat EOF
Archive: $i
Origin: www.youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk
Label: ymbj
Suite: $i
Codename: $i-ds
EOF

echo Date: `date --rfc-822 --utc`

cat EOF
Architectures: $ARCH
Components: main contrib non-free
Description: ymbj Debian packages archive ($i)
EOF

find * -name Packages -o -name Packages.gz -o -name Packages.bz2 \
-o -name Sources  -o -name Sources.gz  -o -name Sources.bz2  | sort |
  perl -we '
use Digest::MD5;
use Digest::SHA1;

sub write_sum ($@)
{
  my $hashclass = shift @_;
  $hashclass = eval Digest::$hashclass;
  foreach my $file (@_)
  {
my $fd;
open $fd, $file or die $^E;
my $hash = $hashclass-new;
$hash-addfile ($fd);
my @stat = stat ($file) or die $^E;
printf  %s %8s %s\n, $hash-hexdigest, $stat[7], $file;
undef $hash;
close $fd;
  }
}

my @args;
while () { chomp; push @args, $_; }
exit 0 unless @args;
print MD5Sum:\n;
write_sum (MD5, @args);
print SHA1:\n;
write_sum (SHA1, @args);'


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature


Re: binary files in diff

2006-11-08 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Frank Gevaerts may or may not have written...

 I need to add a binary file (a png icon) to my package. What is the best
 way to do this, since the normal .diff generation does not support this ?

UUcode seems to be the usual way (needs sharutils).

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Re: Build-Depends-Indep and build target

2006-12-19 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Joachim Reichel may or may not have written...

 The underlying problem is that build-arch/indep are not mandatory and thus
 building must call the build target.

 Any chance that this will be changed for lenny? If build-arch and
 build-indep are optional and there is no reliable way to find out whether
 these targets exist [...]

This, perhaps?

  if make -f debian/rules -n build-arch; then
make -f debian/rules build-arch
  else
make -f debian/rules build
  fi

Then there's the problem of which targets (in the upstream makefile) should
be run from build-{arch,indep}. I don't see any obvious targets for splitting
up the building in this way in a typical automake-generated makefile (I
checked both xine-lib and gxine), which would appear to make
build-{arch,indep} pointless in this case, and would also provide an
explanation of why these targets are not mandatory.

[snip]
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Re: Newbie question about compiler warnings.

2007-01-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Neil Williams may or may not have written...

 On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:54:17 -0800 Brandon Barnes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are we allowed to disable compiler warnings? What is the preferred method,
 if the code is fine, and would require a huge overhaul to fix?

 Warnings are only a problem if -Werror is also set. If upstream don't use
 -Werror, the warnings may actually be useful in debugging the package
 and/or FTBFS bugs from porters.

Agreed. In particular, I've found gcc's -Wformat=2 and -Wformat-security to
be of use. (Fixing -Wformat-security warnings does tend to cause other
warnings, but that's good.)

 As the humble opinion of one DD, hiding any output that does not stop the
 build is a BadIdea(TM) in most cases - as well as being unnecessary.

For C, -Wno-format-zero-length is probably a good idea if using -Wformat (at
least, it is for gxine where the warnings which it suppresses are noise).

 (Which is why I don't mind commented dh_ lines in rules but that's a
 different thread.)

I'd remove those which I'm sufficiently sure will never be needed for
$PACKAGE.

[snip]
 If so, should I disable them in Makefile, or debian/rules?

 No. I would recommend leaving them in - you may be grateful for the
 evidence in times to come. Warnings are issued for a reason - until
 upstream fix the code, I'd always recommend to leave the warning in place.

Certain ones should be left in anyway, IMO.

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Re: generating patches for debian packages

2007-04-12 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Kamaraju S Kusumanchi may or may not have written...

 I am looking for some tricks for generating patches for the debian source
 packages.

 Let's say I download the source of a package foo

 apt-get source foo

 Now I change somefiles inside foo. How can I easily generate a patch so
 that I can send it to bts/maintainer etc.,? Currently what I do is unpack
 the source again into another temp directory and then use diff -r and
 then delete the temp directory. But this is time consuming. Is there any
 easy way? Are there any books which deal with practical issues such as
 these?

You could add a new changelog entry (use dch, or do it manually), then
  $ debuild
  $ interdiff -zp1 ../foo_1.2-3.diff.gz ../foo_1.2-3+my-patches.diff.gz |
filterdiff -x \*/debian/rules  ../foo.patch

(Doing this requires devscripts and patchutils.)

If the source uses tools such as dpatch or quilt then that may not work quite
so well - you could use the same tools or you could hack it a bit: patch the
source (debian/rules patch or debian/rules apply-patches or something
like that), configure it (debian/rules configure) then, BEFORE doing
anything else, make a copy of the source tree (hard-linking files is good, so
long as your text editor breaks links when saving). Diffing is suddenly
easier.


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RFS: mercurial-buildpackage

2012-02-25 Thread Darren Salt
I'm looking for a sponsor for mercurial-buildpackage, which I'm taking over.
(Co-maintainers would be appreciated.)

 * Package name: mercurial-buildpackage
   Version : 0.10
   Upstream Author : Jens Peter Secher jpsec...@gmail.com, Darren Salt 
li...@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk
 * URL : 
http://anonscm.debian.org/hg/collab-maint/mercurial-buildpackage
 * License : ISC
   Section : devel

It builds one binary package:
  mercurial-buildpackage - Suite to maintain Debian packages in Mercurial 
repository

To access further information about this package, you should visit:
  http://mentors.debian.net/package/mercurial-buildpackage

Alternatively, you can download the package with dget:
  dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/m/mercurial-buildpackage/mercurial-buildpackage_0.10.dsc

Reviewing can also be done via the repository (URL is above). I suspect that
that may be more convenient for seeing what changes I've made.

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Bug#661633: RFS: mercurial-buildpackage

2012-02-28 Thread Darren Salt
Package: sponsorship-requests

I'm looking for a sponsor for mercurial-buildpackage, which I'm taking over.
(Co-maintainers would be appreciated.)

 * Package name: mercurial-buildpackage
   Version : 0.10
   Upstream Author : Jens Peter Secher jpsec...@gmail.com, Darren Salt 
li...@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk
 * URL : 
http://anonscm.debian.org/hg/collab-maint/mercurial-buildpackage
 * License : ISC
   Section : devel

It builds one binary package:
  mercurial-buildpackage - Suite to maintain Debian packages in Mercurial 
repository

To access further information about this package, you should visit:
  http://mentors.debian.net/package/mercurial-buildpackage

Alternatively, you can download the package with dget:
  dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/m/mercurial-buildpackage/mercurial-buildpackage_0.10.dsc

Reviewing can also be done via the repository (URL is above). I suspect that
that may be more convenient for seeing what changes I've made.

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Re: Use of DM-Upload-Allowed field

2010-03-20 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Sandro Tosi may or may not have written...

[snip]
 the DMUA flag should be set by the sponsor (or by the sponsoree after a
 request for the sponsor),

At the request of the sponsor, surely.

[snip]
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Re: RFS: gnome-media-player

2010-05-11 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Bilal Akhtar may or may not have written...

 I am looking for a sponsor for the following package. The source package
 dsc can be found on
 http://expatsinksa.com/gnome-media-player_0.1.2-1.dsc . I had to host it
 on my own website since mentors.d.n is broken.

 * Package name: gnome-media-player
   Version : 0.1.2
   Upstream Author : Michael Lamothe michael.lamo...@gmail.com
[snip]

WRT xine-lib, you should be making use of xine-list-1.1 (or xine-list-1.2, if
you happen to be using libxine-dev from experimental). This is used to ensure
that the MIME types list for your desktop file is correct; see also gxine
source (specifically, debian/gxine.postinst.in and debian/gxine.postrm, and
the corresponding rules in debian/rules).

You need to depend on ${xine-x:Depends} (I want to get rid of libxine1's
dependencies on libxine1-x and libxine1-console) and, once the next xine-lib
upload is done, you should also be able to recommend ${xine-ffmpeg:Depends}
instead of libxine1-ffmpeg.

To do this, you need to run dh_xine prior to running dh_gencontrol. This is
not automated with dh 7 (actually, not yet; I have local changes which should
allow this).

As things stand, just dh_xine will do; after the next xine-lib upload,
dh_xine x ffmpeg will generate the substvars referenced above (for all
packages created from your source package; debhelper's -p option applies).

(Don't ask me about how to do this with cdbs...)

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Re: Advice sought regarding binaries in upstream source

2004-10-17 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Andree Leidenfrost may or may not have written...

 I am the co-maintainer for packages mindi and mondo which had bugs #233606
 and #233605 filed a while ago. These bugs where about the packages
 containing binaries in the upstream source. This was true, the binaries
 have been removed since and the bugs closed.

 However, this means that we are currently not distributing the pristine
 upstream sources of mindi and mondo, which I am not overly happy with. (I
 am highlighting this fact by adding sub-versions to the upstream versions
 in the package names.)

I doubt that this would be considered to be a problem, and may well be a Good
Thing: the source takes up slightly less space in the archive, and there's no
possibility of upstream's binaries being used during the build process.

[snip]
 Should the answer be that the binaries indeed have to be removed from the
 upstream source in the orig.tar.gz file, I would also very much like to
 know whether my current approach of appending a sub-version to the upstream
 version number is approriate (example: 2.03 - 2.03.1).

Bad idea. What if there's an upstream 2.03.1?

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Re: Reorganizando el wiki y la lista de blogs

2005-01-26 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Adrian von Bidder may or may not have written...

 On Tuesday 25 January 2005 20.00, Antonio Ognio wrote:
 Saludos,

 Please respect that debian-mentors is an english mailing list.

 babelfishized:

Er... turned into a Babel fish? ;-)

[snip]
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Re: debian directory included in upstream

2005-04-12 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that martin f krafft may or may not have written...

 also sprach Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.04.12.
 +0200]:
 It makes sense for software developers to have their own ./debian
 directory so that they can use debian/rules binary to compile and test
 their software while developing it.

 Huh? Why not just use ./Makefile?

I use both in gxine: debian/rules to get a known good version of the
package built and installed, then Makefile (with modified source) to build a
modified executable which can use the installed files.

 What does not make a lot of sense is to release the .tar.gz with the
 ./debian directory, as Steve Halasz said, it's perfectly valid to have it
 in CVS the important point would be to convince them not to include it in
 the release.

 I disagree. ./debian is the domain of the Debian maintainer, not of the
 upstream. Unless you are developing software *for* *Debian* (native), there
 is no reason why you should bother with ./debian at all.

That's a matter for the Debian maintainer and upstream. All that I can say is
that I've marked bugs as fixed in the Debian changelog without there being
any complaint...

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RFS: gxine 0.4.4 (source NMU)

2005-04-26 Thread Darren Salt
Re. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11562029, I've
prepared an NMU of gxine which fixes the RC bug and several other bugs which
are present in 0.4.1. There are a few small packaging changes which shouldn't
cause any problems; in particular, gnome-xine is dropped since it's not
present outside sid (within Debian).

gxine-0.4.4.tar.gz:
  URL:http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/xine/gxine-0.4.4.tar.gz?download
  (yes, I just released it...)

.diff.gz, .dsc:
  URL:http://zap.tartarus.org/~ds/debian/.

I can also prepare a .diff.gz and .dsc for an NMU of xine-lib (libxine1,
libxine-dev) if it would help. An upload is needed to close a security hole
(see URL:http://xinehq.de/index.php/security/XSA-2004-8; bug 305343).

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Re: RFS: gxine 0.4.4 (source NMU)

2005-04-26 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Matthew Palmer may or may not have written...

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 10:28:03PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote:
 Re. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11562029, I've
 prepared an NMU of gxine which fixes the RC bug and several other bugs
 which are present in 0.4.1. There are a few small packaging changes which
 shouldn't cause any problems; in particular, gnome-xine is dropped since
 it's not present outside sid (within Debian).

 Sponsoring an NMU is a really, really bad idea.  It kind of mucks up the
 chain of control more than a little bit. I'd suggest that you make
 appropriate notations in the bug logs for the various bugs that you close
 with the new upstream release, and then notify the maintainer directly,

Most of it is in CVS (tag gxine-0_4_4-release); the bugs mentioned there
are already tagged fixed-upstream. I've forgotten to mention in the
changelog that bug 305106 is to be closed - I'll close this manually if
necessary - and bug 295184, IMO, shouldn't be closed yet because only the
build-dep part has been applied to 0.4.4. I applied the rest of it to CVS
HEAD only.

 as well as the QA (debian-qa@lists.debian.org) and security
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) teams (because of #305343)

That affects xine-lib. The relevant bug here is 289412/295344, which isn't
security-critical; this message is CCed accordingly. (I'll see any responses
if they're in -mentors or CCed to me.)

 and let them take care of it.

Whether it's uploaded with my name or a DD's name in the changelog entry for
0.4.4, I don't particularly mind. It's probably easiest to start with my
.diff.gz or the debian directory from CVS, though.

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Re: splay upload anyone?

2005-05-03 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that John Hedges may or may not have written...

[snip]
 I'd appreciate an upload ... are you willing, despite my stubborness?

Good luck with it. Nobody bothered to upload gxine before the freeze...

I propose that the next release is called hell rather than etch ;-\

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Re: RFS: z80asm, assembler for the Zilog Z80 microprocessor

2005-05-13 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Bas Wijnen may or may not have written...

 Erik Schanze wrote:
[snip]
 Seriously, I think you should improve your long description to explain to
 an (unexperienced) user what this package is for. What can you do with
 this assembler? Why should you install it? What are the results of the
 programms (e.g. machine-code) for?

 How about this one?:
  The Z80 microprocessor is used in old home computers, such as the
  ZX-spectrum and MSX, and in several newer devices, such as the TI-83
  graphical calculator and the GameBoy.

That's ZX Spectrum... can this assembler output tape image (TAP or TZX)
files for use with an emulator?

(I could also add ZX80, ZX81, TS1000, TS1500, TS2068, TC2048, TC2068...)

And, AFAIK, the Gameboy's CPU isn't exactly Z80 - it's missing at least the
IX and IY registers and the corresponding instructions.

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Re: How to deal with #307726 ?

2005-05-19 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Carlos Z.F. Liu may or may not have written...

 In Bug#307726, some users reported that the Close button in the About
 dialog is noneffective. It only happened when users were using gtk 2.6.1 or
 2.6.2. The problem would be fixed after they upgrade libgtk2.0-0 to version
 2.6.4. I read the source code of leafpad, and didn't think it's leafpad's
 fault.

 How can I deal with it? Should I reassign the bugreport to libgtk2.0-0? In
 the next release of leafpad, should I specify libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.6.4)
 manually?

AFAICS, you may as well just close the bug: libgtk2.0-0 2.6.4 is in sarge.

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Re: latex2html makes twice table captions

2005-05-21 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Mauro Darida may or may not have written...

 On Tuesday 17 May 2005 20:44, Sven Mueller wrote:
 Could you give us a (as minimal as possible) .tex file (and possibly the
 output .html you get) to reproduce this?
 Sure, they are attached below.
[snip]

Hmm...  arm  PDA (Sharp Zaurus), Acorn Archimedes

For the Archimedes, that'd be arm26.

You mean Acorn Risc PC and Iyonix - and, at least on Acorn hardware,
StrongARM is required, or at least it was when I last checked.

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Re: performance tip for the package development stage

2005-05-22 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Shachar Shemesh may or may not have written...

 I'm sorry if this is well known. I haven't seen it anywhere, and I thought
 I'd share it with everybody.

 During the initial package development stage, there is a lot of repeated
 compilation of the same package over and over again. [... summary: use
 ccache]

Alternatively, try to alter the source so that you don't need multiple
compilations. (This worked for vdr.)

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Re: debian architectures

2005-05-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Mauro Darida may or may not have written...

 On Saturday 21 May 2005 16:21, Darren Salt wrote:
  Hmm...  arm      PDA (Sharp Zaurus), Acorn Archimedes

(What are those hard spaces doing there? I didn't put them there...)

 For the Archimedes, that'd be arm26.
 Thank you for your feedback. Could you please elaborate more?

 I was talking about debian architectures for Sarge, and I don't know any
 arm26  architecture. Am I correct?

Yes, which is why it's wrong to refer to the older Acorn ARM-based machines -
it may give the impression that they're supported.

In .../dists/sarge/main/installer-arm/current/images/ (see your local
mirror), there are directories riscpc and riscstation, below each
of which is one kernel. While the RiscStation kernel should work on any
RiscStation machine (memory says that they all use the ARM7500FE), I can't
say the same for the Risc PC kernel - is it built for ARM610, ARM700/ARM710
or SA110? (I'd guess SA110.)

[snip]
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Re: debian architectures

2005-05-26 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Mauro Darida may or may not have written...

 On Monday 23 May 2005 19:30, Darren Salt wrote:
 RiscStation machine (memory says that they all use the ARM7500FE), I can't
 say the same for the Risc PC kernel - is it built for ARM610,
 ARM700/ARM710 or SA110? (I'd guess SA110.)

 So, what do you suggest ?
 a. remove acorn archimedes
 b. replace acorn archimedes with RiscStation machine (any common model?)
 c. ?

c: Replace with RiscStation machines (any model) and with the Risc PC.

According to the Risc PC configuration file in kernel-image-2.4.27-arm,
ARM610, ARM710 (presumably, also ARM700) and SA110 are supported.

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Re: new upstream Cogito conflicts with GNU Interactive Tools

2005-06-11 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Junichi Uekawa may or may not have written...

[snip]
 My recommended action is:
 1. tell them /usr/bin/git name is already taken, and we're renaming it to
piggy

I'd say sum, but that's already taken too. ;-)

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lxmusserv, yadex: current maintainers still interested in these packages?

2004-06-06 Thread Darren Salt
Both lxmusserv and yadex have some outstanding bugs and have not seen any
maintainer activity for... quite some time now.

lxmusserv has some patches in the BTS which fix relatively minor bugs and
allow it to work properly here (emu10k1) without hitting timing issues due to
incomplete or buggy OSS sequencer emulation in ALSA. (Note that I'm using
stock kernel.org kernels here.)

yadex is seriously out of date, and even if 1.7.0 isn't uploaded (I only just
noticed this version yesterday, and haven't yet filed a bug on it), it still
needs to be compiled with g++ 3.3.

I have updated/patched versions in my apt archive (see .sig) which deal with
all of the bugs except for no. 199282. If the maintainers don't respond, then
I'll adjust my packages for NMU or take-over, filing bugs as appropriate.
(Sponsorship will be needed.)

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Re: packaging newbie...: .svn directories / perldoc -- manpage

2004-07-09 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Colin Watson may or may not have written...

 On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 08:50:38AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von
 Bidder wrote:
 (i) I have the package in subversion, so the .svn directories are included
 in the diff. Can I avoid this easily?

   $ grep DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS .devscripts
   
 DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS=-i'(?:^|/).*~$|(?:^|/)\..*\.swp|DEADJOE|(?:/CVS|/RCS|/\.svn|/\.deps)(?:$|/)'
  -ICVS -I.svn -uc -us

Hmm, extra bits... autom4te.cache?

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Re: Putting accented characters in manpages?

2005-10-06 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Romain Beauxis may or may not have written...

 Le Jeudi 6 Octobre 2005 06:57, Rogério Brito a écrit :
 W: pfb2t1c2pfb: manpage-has-errors-from-man
 usr/share/man/man1/pfb2t1c.1.gz /tmp/zmanpkICfH:25: warning: can't find
 numbered character 243

 . It is probably caused by the special characters in your name, which
 were put unencoded into the man page.

 I had the same issue for a manpage too.
 I discovered that you can put those caracters in a special encoding like I
 did:
 .SH AUTHOR
 This manual page was written by Lo\[:i]c Le Guyader
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 for the Debian GNU/Linux system (but may be used by others).

 It works with the command line man, but not with kde's man viewer. And I
 can't remeber where I found this... sorry

groff_char(7) seems likely. I find that \(zz works (for arbitrary zz given in
\[zz]) with man and xman, although I have no idea whether this works in KDE's
man viewer.

For character 243, you want \['o] or \('o.

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Re: dpatch upstream source

2005-11-02 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that François-Denis Gonthier may or may not have written...

 On 2 November 2005 09:13, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
 I'm working on some big changes for the new upstream of the erlang
 packages. The biggest change is that the package is now fully using
 dpatch, *but*, basing myself on some other package I've seen (coreutils
 for example), I've put the compressed upstream right in the package.  It
 is extracted using a dpatch scriptlet.

 Is it okay to do that, for one thing?

 Out of interest, I would be interested in the advantages of having a
 tarball like that.

 oh, and it totally helps to keep _all_ changes in check.  If I change
 anything outside dpatch-edit-patch, it'll be gone at the next cleaning.

 It's a bit of a hassle but since I always feared that a change I've made to
 the upstream source could end up silently in the diff and break the build
 on some platforms, I think it's a good thing to force myself to go through
 dpatch.

Use lsdiff (in patchutils) to find out if a patch is in the wrong place:

  $ lsdiff -z ../foo_1.2.3-4.diff.gz | grep -v /debian/

You can move the offending patches into a file in debian/patches/ with
filterdiff and dpatch-edit-patch:

  $ filterdiff -zx '*/debian/*' ../foo_1.2.3-4.diff.gz | patch -Rp1
  $ dpatch-edit-patch 99_bar

  $ filterdiff -zx '*/debian/*' /proc/$PPID/cwd/../foo_1.2.3-4.diff.gz | patch 
-p1
  $ exit

All that remains is to update the list of patches and to rebuild...

(I've deliberately done this a few times, and have also accidentally let
patches through...)

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Re: [gmail] Re: sponsor quake3 quake3-data packages

2005-11-10 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Justin Pryzby may or may not have written...

 On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 09:09:59PM +0100, Marc Leeman wrote:
[snip]
 I decided to put the files in /root/ (like it was in the quake2 package).
 The main reason for this is that the downloads are considerable and I can
 assume that users don't want to discard them as easily as a temp file (2x
 around 40 MB).

 AFAIK, this is also the strategy of realplayeri (when I still used it).
 Maybe there is a better location for such files.

 Indeed /root/ feels like a bad place.  I would suggest /tmp/ or something
 in /var/.  Maybe /var/cache/, because information isn't lost if it gets
 deleted?

/var/cache/install/$PACKAGE?

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Re: Native package or not?

2006-02-13 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Joey Hess may or may not have written...

 Bernhard R. Link wrote:
 The general suggestion is to not include the debian/ directory in the
 release tarball. The reason is that by the format of the Debian source
 packages no files can be removed by another person's .diff.gz and some
 tools like debhelper act on (non)existance of specific files.

 patch is capable of deleting files and even subdirectories when the diff
 shows that all the lines in a file are removed. The only limitation I know
 of is that a patch cannot represent the deletion of an empty file, and it
 cannot represent removing all lines in a file while leaving it empty.

... two limitations. The only two limitations I know of...

The former it can't (AFAICS) but the latter it can. Using the attached files:

  $ echo test
  $ patch -p0 -i test1.diff # -1,1 +1,0
  $ ls -s test
  0 test
  $

  $ echo test
  $ patch -p0 -i test2.diff # -1,1 +0,0
  $ ls -l test
  ls: test: No such file or directory
  $

diff -N treats empty as non-existent, and patch may fail to ask about -R.

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Memory should be the starting point of the present.
--- test
+++ test
@@ -1,1 +1,0 @@
-
--- test
+++ test
@@ -1,1 +0,0 @@
-


Re: question about CFLAGS modifiers to ./configure

2006-03-30 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Miriam Ruiz may or may not have written...

 DebHelper uses by default (in the pre-made templates) -Wl,-z,defs in
 CFLAGS when running ./configure

 CFLAGS=-Wall -g -O2 -Wl,-z,defs ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) ...

-Wl,-z,defs in CFLAGS causes warnings about unused linker flags. It belongs
in LDFLAGS.

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Re: HELP!!! New Maint App Process

2002-10-25 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Duncan Findlay may or may not have written...

 On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 01:52:43PM -0400, Deva Seetharam wrote:
[snip]
 1. how does one get an advocate?

 The best way is to package a piece of software, and make the packages
 available somewhere.

And, preferably, package it because you find it to be useful.

 Apply to be a NM, and post a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 asking for a sponsor. A sponsor will take a look at your package and
 (assuming all goes well) upload them. If they are sufficiently impressed,
 they will likely be your advocate.

The how doesn't matter too much; I've done things in a somewhat different
order - get my key signed and have one of the signers be my advocate; wait
for an application manager, and ask him to sponsor a (trivial) package.

I have other packages (see the URL in my .sig), at least some of which should
become official Debian packages, or at least distributed-with-Debian
packages. None have sponsors as yet...

[snip]

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RFS: lib765{,-dev}, libdsk{,-dev}, FUSE (xfuse-*)

2002-11-10 Thread Darren Salt
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I'm looking for sponsors for the following packages:

  lib765 (lib765, lib765-dev)
- an emulation of the uPD765a floppy drive controller

  libdsk (libdsk, libdsk-dev)
- handles various floppy disk image formats

  xfuse  (xfuse-common, xfuse-gtk, xfuse-x11, xfuse-svga, xfuse-fb,
  possibly a few other bits depending on how it's packaged)
- FUSE, a ZX Spectrum emulator

I haven't quite decided how to package xfuse: specifically, whether to use
libdl (which is used in the version available on my website; see .sig).
Comments welcome...

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Re: How to obtain current package version number?

2003-03-04 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Colin Watson may or may not have written...

 On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 11:52:09PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:41:48 +, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Why not just preprocess the postinst in debian/rules to embed its own
 version number directly into it?
 Nice idea, thanks!
 Is an executeable script (for example an init script) allowed to parse
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/$PACKAGE.postinst?

 No - but you could do the same preprocessing for the init script, couldn't
 you?

How would you handle the case where the init script has been locally
modified?

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Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written...

 On 20030321T182926+0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
 License : GNU Public Licence

 You *could* of course spell that correctly...

There are no _spelling_ errors there.

 (Sorry, no time to give any useful comments.)

I see that...

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Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Thomas Viehmann may or may not have written...

 Darren Salt wrote:
 License : GNU Public Licence
 You *could* of course spell that correctly...
 There are no _spelling_ errors there.

 While there are no words mispelled,

What? There's one, right there :-)

 the *name* of the license (or licence) is. Just because my name is spelled
 as Tomas with or without various accents in some languages, I still prefer
 it correctly spelled. So one ought to spell GPL with License for
 correctness and consistency. If not, one might wind up as in [0].

You're right: cheque would be correct...

gdr

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Re: [debian-mentors] config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-12 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Geert Stappers may or may not have written...

[snip]
find . -name exact-name-of-file | xargs rm -f
  or
find . -name exact-name-of-file -print0 | xargs -0r rm -f
  can be reduced to
rm -f exact-name-of-file

They can't: consider what happens when ./foo/exact-name-of-file exists.

 My message is:  avoid surprises from find.

:-)

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Re: Development packages.

2004-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Stephen Frost may or may not have written...

 * Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I used a statically-linked binary just a few days ago. I needed to resize
 an NTFS partition on a newly-delivered system which came with Windows XP.
 In the event, I was able to get a statically linked binary, copy it onto a
 floppy and run this after booting from a rescue disk.

 So, it's very useful for rescue situations, where you can't rely on a
 whole suite of shared libs, or any installation at all.

 Boot Knoppix or similar from a CD.

Knoppix or similar may not have the required binary. ;-)

 PCs today are more often installed with CDs than floppies anyway.  That's
 really a pretty poor reason.

It's possible that you may not have a CD-ROM drive for, or in, a particular
machine: I don't for my laptop, and if I did, I may not always carry it or,
for that matter, the floppy drive (which is removable) with the computer.

[snip]
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lxmusserv, yadex: current maintainers still interested in these packages?

2004-06-06 Thread Darren Salt
Both lxmusserv and yadex have some outstanding bugs and have not seen any
maintainer activity for... quite some time now.

lxmusserv has some patches in the BTS which fix relatively minor bugs and
allow it to work properly here (emu10k1) without hitting timing issues due to
incomplete or buggy OSS sequencer emulation in ALSA. (Note that I'm using
stock kernel.org kernels here.)

yadex is seriously out of date, and even if 1.7.0 isn't uploaded (I only just
noticed this version yesterday, and haven't yet filed a bug on it), it still
needs to be compiled with g++ 3.3.

I have updated/patched versions in my apt archive (see .sig) which deal with
all of the bugs except for no. 199282. If the maintainers don't respond, then
I'll adjust my packages for NMU or take-over, filing bugs as appropriate.
(Sponsorship will be needed.)

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Re: packaging newbie...: .svn directories / perldoc -- manpage

2004-07-09 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Colin Watson may or may not have written...

 On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 08:50:38AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von
 Bidder wrote:
 (i) I have the package in subversion, so the .svn directories are included
 in the diff. Can I avoid this easily?

   $ grep DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS .devscripts
   
 DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS=-i'(?:^|/).*~$|(?:^|/)\..*\.swp|DEADJOE|(?:/CVS|/RCS|/\.svn|/\.deps)(?:$|/)'
  -ICVS -I.svn -uc -us

Hmm, extra bits... autom4te.cache?

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Re: HELP!!! New Maint App Process

2002-10-25 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Duncan Findlay may or may not have written...

 On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 01:52:43PM -0400, Deva Seetharam wrote:
[snip]
 1. how does one get an advocate?

 The best way is to package a piece of software, and make the packages
 available somewhere.

And, preferably, package it because you find it to be useful.

 Apply to be a NM, and post a message to debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
 asking for a sponsor. A sponsor will take a look at your package and
 (assuming all goes well) upload them. If they are sufficiently impressed,
 they will likely be your advocate.

The how doesn't matter too much; I've done things in a somewhat different
order - get my key signed and have one of the signers be my advocate; wait
for an application manager, and ask him to sponsor a (trivial) package.

I have other packages (see the URL in my .sig), at least some of which should
become official Debian packages, or at least distributed-with-Debian
packages. None have sponsors as yet...

[snip]

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RFS: lib765{,-dev}, libdsk{,-dev}, FUSE (xfuse-*)

2002-11-10 Thread Darren Salt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I'm looking for sponsors for the following packages:

  lib765 (lib765, lib765-dev)
- an emulation of the uPD765a floppy drive controller

  libdsk (libdsk, libdsk-dev)
- handles various floppy disk image formats

  xfuse  (xfuse-common, xfuse-gtk, xfuse-x11, xfuse-svga, xfuse-fb,
  possibly a few other bits depending on how it's packaged)
- FUSE, a ZX Spectrum emulator

I haven't quite decided how to package xfuse: specifically, whether to use
libdl (which is used in the version available on my website; see .sig).
Comments welcome...

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Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho may or may not have written...

 On 20030321T182926+0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
 License : GNU Public Licence

 You *could* of course spell that correctly...

There are no _spelling_ errors there.

 (Sorry, no time to give any useful comments.)

I see that...

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Re: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.6

2003-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Thomas Viehmann may or may not have written...

 Darren Salt wrote:
 License : GNU Public Licence
 You *could* of course spell that correctly...
 There are no _spelling_ errors there.

 While there are no words mispelled,

What? There's one, right there :-)

 the *name* of the license (or licence) is. Just because my name is spelled
 as Tomas with or without various accents in some languages, I still prefer
 it correctly spelled. So one ought to spell GPL with License for
 correctness and consistency. If not, one might wind up as in [0].

You're right: cheque would be correct...

gdr

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RFS: playmidi

2003-04-13 Thread Darren Salt
I'm looking for a sponsor for playmidi.

I've fixed some of the reported bugs and applied an extra patch or two of my
own. The diff and dsc files aren't available for download but I'll send them
to anybody who's interested in sponsorship.

I've also considered splitting the package (ref. bug 28471), but I'm not sure
that the hassle of doing this is worth the gain wrt dependencies: the main
problem is in moving ownership of the debconf configuration data to another
package. There's some pre-debconf-handling cruft there too which I'm cautious
about removing because it postdates potato - or would it be better to just
forget that question and ask afresh?

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Re: RFS: playmidi

2003-04-13 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Brian Nelson may or may not have written...

 Darren Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'm looking for a sponsor for playmidi.

 I've fixed some of the reported bugs and applied an extra patch or two of
 my own. The diff and dsc files aren't available for download but I'll send
 them to anybody who's interested in sponsorship.

 Are you planning to adopt playmidi?  If so, you will really need to take
 over as upstream as well, since it appears to be quite dead.

For that reason, I'm CC'ing upstream. Lack of response by the end of this
month will be taken as don't care about it, in which case I may decide to
hijack upstream.

 Otherwise, it would probably be best to just remove playmidi from the
 archive.

Maybe. OTOH, I use it and I know that one other uses it... aside from that,
well - popularity-contest data?

 I've also considered splitting the package (ref. bug 28471), but I'm not
 sure that the hassle of doing this is worth the gain wrt dependencies: the
 main problem is in moving ownership of the debconf configuration data to
 another package. There's some pre-debconf-handling cruft there too which
 I'm cautious about removing because it postdates potato - or would it be
 better to just forget that question and ask afresh?

 Debconf usage is definitely preferable to manually asking questions in
 the maintainer scripts.

True; I don't plan to change that. (I should have typed forget the original
answer.)

 However, splitting an already small package into even smaller pieces is
 discouraged; the ftp-masters will likely reject it.

Then I'll just leave them in one package and mark that bug as 'wontfix'.

 Also, note that svgalib is very much dead.

Maybe nobody will notice if I simply don't build that version :-)

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Re: RFS: playmidi

2003-04-13 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that nil may or may not have written...

 What the hell?

 It's taken this long to contact the actual maintainer of playmidi (me)?

(Taken to private mail.)

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Re: RFS: playmidi

2003-04-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Brian Nelson may or may not have written...

 Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[snip]
 I have a question for you, though: why is it, do you think, that someone
 would have thought that playmidi was quite dead upstream? [...]

 I made the claim based upon the fact that playmidi doesn't appear to have
 had a release since 1998.  The most recent timestamp on the files in the
 latest release from http://playmidi.openprojects.net is September 30,
 1998.  4.5 years between releases for a tiny utility sounds dead to me.

I was inclined to agree with that. Now, though, I'm prepared to wait; I'm
told that a new release is planned for next month.

Would either of you be prepared to sponsor it? :-)

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Re: [debian-mentors] config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-12 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Geert Stappers may or may not have written...

[snip]
find . -name exact-name-of-file | xargs rm -f
  or
find . -name exact-name-of-file -print0 | xargs -0r rm -f
  can be reduced to
rm -f exact-name-of-file

They can't: consider what happens when ./foo/exact-name-of-file exists.

 My message is:  avoid surprises from find.

:-)

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Re: Advice sought regarding binaries in upstream source

2004-10-17 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Andree Leidenfrost may or may not have written...

 I am the co-maintainer for packages mindi and mondo which had bugs #233606
 and #233605 filed a while ago. These bugs where about the packages
 containing binaries in the upstream source. This was true, the binaries
 have been removed since and the bugs closed.

 However, this means that we are currently not distributing the pristine
 upstream sources of mindi and mondo, which I am not overly happy with. (I
 am highlighting this fact by adding sub-versions to the upstream versions
 in the package names.)

I doubt that this would be considered to be a problem, and may well be a Good
Thing: the source takes up slightly less space in the archive, and there's no
possibility of upstream's binaries being used during the build process.

[snip]
 Should the answer be that the binaries indeed have to be removed from the
 upstream source in the orig.tar.gz file, I would also very much like to
 know whether my current approach of appending a sub-version to the upstream
 version number is approriate (example: 2.03 - 2.03.1).

Bad idea. What if there's an upstream 2.03.1?

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Re: Development packages.

2004-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Stephen Frost may or may not have written...

 * Roger Leigh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I used a statically-linked binary just a few days ago. I needed to resize
 an NTFS partition on a newly-delivered system which came with Windows XP.
 In the event, I was able to get a statically linked binary, copy it onto a
 floppy and run this after booting from a rescue disk.

 So, it's very useful for rescue situations, where you can't rely on a
 whole suite of shared libs, or any installation at all.

 Boot Knoppix or similar from a CD.

Knoppix or similar may not have the required binary. ;-)

 PCs today are more often installed with CDs than floppies anyway.  That's
 really a pretty poor reason.

It's possible that you may not have a CD-ROM drive for, or in, a particular
machine: I don't for my laptop, and if I did, I may not always carry it or,
for that matter, the floppy drive (which is removable) with the computer.

[snip]
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