Re: Bug#197835: [PROPOSAL]: integrated environments are allowed

2003-06-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I haven't thought very much about Colin Walters' [1] points about
 editors as embeddable components yet,
 
 [1] Damn, this is confusing. Maybe the two of us should avoid getting
 involved in the same discussions in the future. :-)

On the contrary, when you both participate I'm reminded that you are two
distinct people.  :-)

It would help if I met you both in person...

Peter
 



Bug#197100: cdbs and Build-Depends-Indep

2003-06-19 Thread Chris Hanson
   Date: 16 Jun 2003 19:40:34 -0400
   From: Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Well, probably the main reason we haven't hit this before is that
   most people don't bother to do a proper arch/indep split in their
   packages, and just stuff everything into Build-Depends.

And that's what I'm going to do, for now.  It looks like this will
take a while to resolve, and I don't want an RC bug open while waiting
for that to happen.



Re: Bug#197835: [PROPOSAL]: integrated environments are allowed

2003-06-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:19:50AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I haven't thought very much about Colin Walters' [1] points about
  editors as embeddable components yet,
  
  [1] Damn, this is confusing. Maybe the two of us should avoid getting
  involved in the same discussions in the future. :-)
 
 On the contrary, when you both participate I'm reminded that you are two
 distinct people.  :-)
 
 It would help if I met you both in person...

http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/~branden/toronto/debconf/10.html

Colin Walters is on the left.
Colin Watson is on the right.

-- 
G. Branden Robinson| Life is what happens to you while
Debian GNU/Linux   | you're busy making other plans.
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Bug#198120: debian-policy: 10.3 init scripts secret options

2003-06-19 Thread Dan Jacobson
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.5.8.0
Severity: wishlist

in the policy manual

  10.3.2 Writing the scripts

   These scripts should be named /etc/init.d/package,
  and they should accept one argument, saying what to do:

  start start the service,   The start, stop, restart, and
  force-reload options should be supported by all scripts in
  /etc/init.d, the reload option is optional.

OK, but you don't say if the script can have 'secret other arguments'
than start...

We see or to specify some special command line options when starting
a service, so the above accept one argument appears to be flexible.

we see: 'The start, stop, restart, and force-reload options should be supported
by all scripts in /etc/init.d, the reload option is optional.'

But be explicit about choices beyond these 5 or 4.

Also should accept one argument, saying what to do: should be
explicit about if it is at least one, or only one.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux debian 2.4.20-k7 #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=zh_TW.Big5, LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.Big5

-- no debconf information




Bug#198120: debian-policy: 10.3 init scripts secret options

2003-06-19 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:23:36PM +0200, Martin Godisch wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 03:13:37 +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:

  Also should accept one argument, saying what to do: should be
  explicit about if it is at least one, or only one.

 Sorry, I don't understand. What do you want?

Overspecification of irrelevent details, as near as I can make out.

Dan, policy's job is not to tell you what's allowed.  Policy's job is
to tell you what's required, and what's forbidden, and that's pretty
much it.  If you want to add 700 optional arguments to your init
scripts, go for it.  As long as it does the proper thing when fed the
standard required arguments, nobody will care.  And because nobody
cares...it's not a policy issue.

cheers

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