Re: question about yaboot and radeon 9200
Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ Please feel free to space your text into paragraphs, and put spaces after sentences and punctuation; it will make it much more readable, and hence easier for people to help you. Thanks. ] I'm running debian etch on my powermac with one of those radeon 9200 mac edition cards and a single sync monitor.The monitor can only to 1024x768 and 1280x1024,what do I need to add to my yaboot.conf to make it boot up at 1280x1024?I have tried a number of different things,like video= radeonfb:1024x768 but the only thing that seems to work is video=ofonly.I remember a few months ago I was able to do this with something like option:1024x768,but I cant remember. append=video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where @70 is the refresh rate. Another question; I cant switch from X to a virtual terminal,my monitor turns off like its on a resolution the monitor cant do,even though it works before I start X.Any suggestions? Possibly a misconfigured framebuffer. The above should fix that. One more question; I cant seem to get dri working on this card,can someone with this card(the pci radeon 9200) reply with there xorg.conf please? Section Module Loaddri EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpjTfZZciUnT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you might know, experimental grub2 support has been added to d-i when using the expert mode, but it is only yet available on i386/amd64. I think powerpc support might be a bit premature. The powerpc code upstream is a bit lagging compared with i386/amd64, and depends on tools not in Debian. For example, changed to the i386 shell scripts have not been made to the corresponding powerpc scripts; this really needs to be made into common code, to avoid this needless effort. The same also applies to some of the C source. It's not a great deal of work to fix these issues, but I am currently lacking sufficient time to do it myself. This may be outdated though--I haven't checked out grub2 for a couple of months, so it may have already been rectified. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpadFMIEjW1l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know yaboot but I do know grub. I'll be going to see the vendor in a couple of weeks. I see that grub2 is in testing but no sign of grub-disk yet. Is anyone running grub2 who could make me a grub2 floppy disk? I don't need a boot menu, just a grub command line. Such a disk image could then be emailed to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] grub2 is still somewhat experimental, so it probably won't work for you at present. If you want to use it, I would suggest building from CVS to create a custom [of]grub, and then boot that from OpenFirmware by hand. I can't make you such an image, because I've never seen a powerpc system with a floppy drive, so creating a bootable one is likely to fail. Until grub2 is stable, I would suggest using yaboot. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpnV0GJsco8z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: question about yaboot and radeon 9200
Roger,thanks for the reply.On 9/17/06, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:[ Please feel free to space your text into paragraphs, and put spacesafter sentences and punctuation; it will make it much more readable,and hence easier for people to help you.Thanks. ] I'm running debian etch on my powermac with one of those radeon 9200 mac edition cards and a single sync monitor.The monitor can only to 1024x768 and 1280x1024,what do I need to add to my yaboot.conf to make it boot up at 1280x1024?I have tried a number of different things,like video= radeonfb:1024x768 but the only thing that seems to work is video=ofonly.I remember a few months ago I was able to do this with something like option:1024x768,but I cant remember.append=video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Where @70 is the refresh rate. Another question; I cant switch from X to a virtual terminal,my monitor turns off like its on a resolution the monitor cant do,even though it works before I start X.Any suggestions?Possibly a misconfigured framebuffer.The above should fix that. One more question; I cant seem to get dri working on this card,can someone with this card(the pci radeon 9200) reply with there xorg.conf please?Section ModuleLoaddri EndSectionSection DRIMode0666EndSectionRegards,Roger--.''`.Roger Leigh : :' :Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail.
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 09:34:50AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you might know, experimental grub2 support has been added to d-i when using the expert mode, but it is only yet available on i386/amd64. I think powerpc support might be a bit premature. The powerpc code upstream is a bit lagging compared with i386/amd64, and depends on tools not in Debian. For example, changed to the i386 shell scripts have not been made to the corresponding powerpc scripts; this really needs to be made into common code, to avoid this needless effort. The same also applies to some of the C source. It's not a great deal of work to fix these issues, but I am currently lacking sufficient time to do it myself. This may be outdated though--I haven't checked out grub2 for a couple of months, so it may have already been rectified. This is strange. I know one of the core grub2 maintainers is using powerpc regularly (with code from CVS). As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). -- Robert Millan My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental
Hi, xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. The macintosh_old2 version has been removed from this version, there are only 2 models: - macintosh_old (old kernels with ADB keycodes) - macintosh (new kernels with PC keycodes) But 2 new options are added: apple:badmap and apple:goodmap to change keycodes for the 2 swapped keys. This means that macintosh_old2 model is replaced by macintosh. If kernel misdetects the attached keyboard, users can select the apple:badmap option. Basically macintosh model is now equivalent to pc105, the only difference is that with the former, layouts are taken from symbols/macintosh_vndr whereas with the latter, they come from symbols/. One can then set a Macintosh layout on a PC keyboard by selecting the macintosh model, or set a PC layout on a Mac with pc105 model, and use apple:badmap and apple:goodmap if needed to swap the 2 problematic keys. This version will be pushed ustream, so please test it and report problems. After that, we will discuss modifiers and default settings. Thanks. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:16:46AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 09:34:50AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you might know, experimental grub2 support has been added to d-i when using the expert mode, but it is only yet available on i386/amd64. I think powerpc support might be a bit premature. The powerpc code upstream is a bit lagging compared with i386/amd64, and depends on tools not in Debian. For example, changed to the i386 shell scripts have not been made to the corresponding powerpc scripts; this really needs to be made into common code, to avoid this needless effort. The same also applies to some of the C source. It's not a great deal of work to fix these issues, but I am currently lacking sufficient time to do it myself. This may be outdated though--I haven't checked out grub2 for a couple of months, so it may have already been rectified. This is strange. I know one of the core grub2 maintainers is using powerpc regularly (with code from CVS). As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#382129: Is now a good time to revisit installer not booting on OldWorld PowerMac beige G3?
--- brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i tried the sept5th version of 2.6.18-rc6 from ppckernel with bootx on powerbook3400, it hangs at the first line, Welcome to linux ... i tried to pull Sven's link there but that page was blank/said adress unavailable - check spelling. does it need to go via rsync or curl or something ? (if so please an exact command) i should also be trying quik, i just tried quickly and it told me no hfs partition. i had used this before, with sarge but not since i replace my drive and my partitions arranged different maybe. i ask myself why do i care about this, i am using 15 everyday a couple hours or more so far no serious problems. well i see in the log online a lot looks like more serious things taken care of in later 17s and 18. also if i am the only person right now testing this particular machine and it happens to be helping me, i want to keep it going (my little miracle here) if i had a vote here i would say that both 2.6.8 and 2.6.15 should be on the cd for now. yes you can even boot 8, it will not start udev but it will make you an initrd for booting 15. (some people maybe could boot 8 without one, but not 15) i am still confused about how we really need the new initramfs. does anyone really know ? isn't is partly the udev support, as well as the sound support (as noted earlier seems to have security implication to load before disk drivers). how much of this is specific to powerpc, how much to later models only. i think the kernel could already be too big. i saw a reference today a guy said a few years ago he could boot a 3.5MB kernel with quik but not a 4MB the 15-17s i have here are in that range. the 18 is 5MB. brian --- Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 03:35:17PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Sep 16, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:50:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 16 September 2006 09:09, Rick Thomas wrote: Is there someone out there who will work with me to get a kernel that boots to run debian-installer on my beige G3 PowerMac (OldWorld) machine? I'd like to see that happen. If not, I think it may be time to withdraw OldWorld PowerMacs from the list of hardware supported by the Debian Installer. Note that as I understand there are also problems booting the kernel outside the installer (i.e. just upgrading an installed system), this does not seem to be a Debian Installer issue, but rather a powerpc kernel or kernel configuration issue. Its actually a problem with the ramdisk generators and/or bootloaders, not the kernel proper. Actually, from the symptoms I'm seeing, it may not be getting far enough to encounter ramdisk problems. (Not to say there are no such ramdisk problems, just that what I'm seeing is not diagnostic for them.) I gave fairly detailed notes in the previous bug report, Bug#382129. Let me know if you want more information. If Sven is right, that leaves bootloaders. Are you using quik or bootx ? This patch : http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=6cdd2bdfb9e2449f1c8a0f729cdf9cfd733dd63f [POWERPC] Fix BootX booting with an initrd The bootx_init.c trampoline didn't properly add the ramdisk to the reserve map (list of reserved areas of memory), thus causing all sorts of failures when using BootX with an initrd. Also fixes a possible problem if the ramdisk is located before the device-tree passed by BootX. Might be of interest to solve this problem, which is why i suggested trying the latest 2.6.18-rc kernel before. Please try and provide feedback. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:24:41AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:16:46AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 09:34:50AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you might know, experimental grub2 support has been added to d-i when using the expert mode, but it is only yet available on i386/amd64. I think powerpc support might be a bit premature. The powerpc code upstream is a bit lagging compared with i386/amd64, and depends on tools not in Debian. For example, changed to the i386 shell scripts have not been made to the corresponding powerpc scripts; this really needs to be made into common code, to avoid this needless effort. The same also applies to some of the C source. It's not a great deal of work to fix these issues, but I am currently lacking sufficient time to do it myself. This may be outdated though--I haven't checked out grub2 for a couple of months, so it may have already been rectified. This is strange. I know one of the core grub2 maintainers is using powerpc regularly (with code from CVS). As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. Is grub2 usable without it? If it's not, we'd rather remove powerpc from the arch list for now. We don't want to provide a broken build do we? :) -- Robert Millan My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is strange. I know one of the core grub2 maintainers is using powerpc regularly (with code from CVS). It certainly works--I've used it myself. But there is so much duplicated, common, code between the ports, it really is asking for splitting into separate arch-specific and generic parts, rather than duplicating the entirety for each port. As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Yes. Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). It's just grub-install that breaks. Installing by hand works. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpMf9a0RJOzf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. While ofpathname uses sysfs, and supports a wider range of devices, it doesn't support partitions on devices (needed by yaboot), and also has a different output format than yaboot. yaboot would need updating to support it. IMO ofpathname really does need fixing to support partitions of devices. $ /usr/sbin/ofpath /dev/hda /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: $ /home/rleigh/powerpc-utils-1.0.2/scripts/ofpathname /dev/hda /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ /usr/sbin/ofpath /dev/hda4 /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4 $ /home/rleigh/powerpc-utils-1.0.2/scripts/ofpathname /dev/hda4 /home/rleigh/powerpc-utils-1.0.2/scripts/ofpathname: line 237: cd: /sys/block/hda4: No such file or directory ofpathname: Could not find sysfs information for logical device /dev/hda4. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgp0CWHWD27BY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:24:41AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. This is Bug#386675 (ITP: powerpc-ibm-utils -- Utilities for maintenance of IBM PowerPC platforms) which blocks Bug#377097 (yaboot: ofpath fails on IBM JS21 blades). The powerpc-ibm-utils package will have the same Priority Section the legacy powerpc-utils package have, i.e. important utils, and Yaboot will depend on it to use ofpathname. As I understand the importance of it, I will finish it this afternoon. The sooner it enters NEW, the sooner we will benefit of it. ;) Cheers, -- .''`. Aurélien GÉRÔME : :' : `. `'` Free Software Developer `- Unix Sys Net Admin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:19:10AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: While ofpathname uses sysfs, and supports a wider range of devices, it doesn't support partitions on devices (needed by yaboot), and also has a different output format than yaboot. yaboot would need updating to support it. IMO ofpathname really does need fixing to support partitions of devices. Not necessarily, Suse has a patch for Yaboot to circumvent this issue of partitions which I need to adapt a bit to work with ofpathname for Debian. :) Cheers, -- .''`. Aurélien GÉRÔME : :' : `. `'` Free Software Developer `- Unix Sys Net Admin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:16:02AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is strange. I know one of the core grub2 maintainers is using powerpc regularly (with code from CVS). It certainly works--I've used it myself. But there is so much duplicated, common, code between the ports, it really is asking for splitting into separate arch-specific and generic parts, rather than duplicating the entirety for each port. As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Yes. Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). It's just grub-install that breaks. Installing by hand works. Ah, good. Btw, anyone tried loading a 64bit kernel from 32bit grub2? If it works, we could add ppc64 to the list (using biarch). -- Robert Millan My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:10:53PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. Is grub2 usable without it? If it's not, we'd rather remove powerpc from the arch list for now. We don't want to provide a broken build do we? :) Well, as it will be uploaded ASAP, and the only problem will be NEW, it should be no major problem, please don't remove it just now yet. It is not the default, so breakage will only come to those who know what they do. Also, it will be an error at grub2 install time, not run time, and you should maybe do like yaboot-installer, check an absence of ofpathname, and then either try to use yaboot's ofpath, and if this one returns empty, abort and inform the user. Notice that the grub2/powerpc port was done over a year ago on a pegasos machine donated for that purpose, and that the guys porting opensolaris on powerpc use it as their main bootloader, and i have seen it turn a year or so back on both a dual power3 IBM pseries/rs6k, as well as on a powermac, and on a pegasos. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:16:02AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: It certainly works--I've used it myself. But there is so much duplicated, common, code between the ports, it really is asking for splitting into separate arch-specific and generic parts, rather than duplicating the entirety for each port. This is the reproach I have against Grub2 (on PowerPC) when Sven and I talk about it: it is not enough mature to become architecture-generic. The last time I dug the code (1 month ago), I found duplicities which disturbed me. :( Cheers, -- .''`. Aurélien GÉRÔME : :' : `. `'` Free Software Developer `- Unix Sys Net Admin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#387903: [powerpc] bcm43xx module (802.11) wireless issues with 2.6.17-9 - iBook G4
Package: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc Version: 2.6.17-9 Severity: important Since upgrading to 2.6.17-9, running on an ibook G4 with the Broadcomm 4318 wireless there are issues with the kernel supplied bcm43xx module. Reverting to 2.6.17-8 (from testing) and the bcm43xx module operates as expected. The problems I am seeing with -9 include, not being able to associate with an access point, or when I am associated the connection is unreliable and drops out. bcm43xx is a new module in the kernel and I anticipate these are some teething issues, but wanted to let people know which versions of the kernel I have found to work. Can anyone else from debian-powerpc confirm or otherwise issues with bcm43xx and 2.6.17-9 version of the kernel. I find that the 2.6.16 kernel support for the bcm43xx isn't great, but did have success with 2.6.15 kernels and the no defunt bcm43xx-source package. Mark 0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-2-powerpc Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc depends on: ii initramfs-tools [linux-initra 0.79 tools for generating an initramfs ii mkvmlinuz 23 create a kernel to boot a PowerPC ii module-init-tools 3.2.2-3tools for managing Linux kernel mo ii yaird [linux-initramfs-tool] 0.0.12-18 Yet Another mkInitRD linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc recommends no packages. -- debconf information: shared/kernel-image/really-run-bootloader: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/create-kimage-link-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/initrd-2.6.17-2-powerpc: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/lilo-initrd-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true * linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/already-running-this-2.6.17-2-powerpc: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/abort-overwrite-2.6.17-2-powerpc: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/prerm/removing-running-kernel-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/really-run-bootloader-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/elilo-initrd-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/depmod-error-2.6.17-2-powerpc: false linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/kimage-is-a-directory: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/abort-install-2.6.17-2-powerpc: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/old-dir-initrd-link-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/old-system-map-link-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/bootloader-test-error-2.6.17-2-powerpc: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/overwriting-modules-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/bootloader-error-2.6.17-2-powerpc: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/bootloader-initrd-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/old-initrd-link-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/lilo-has-ramdisk: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/prerm/would-invalidate-boot-loader-2.6.17-2-powerpc: true linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/preinst/failed-to-move-modules-2.6.17-2-powerpc: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc/postinst/depmod-error-initrd-2.6.17-2-powerpc: false -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#387903: [powerpc] bcm43xx module (802.11) wireless issues with 2.6.17-9 - iBook G4
On Sunday 17 September 2006 13:21, Mark Purcell wrote: Can anyone else from debian-powerpc confirm or otherwise issues with bcm43xx and 2.6.17-9 version of the kernel. I find that the 2.6.16 kernel support for the bcm43xx isn't great, but I find the support for the bcm is somewhat a bit off with the 2.6.17.x kernels. I cannot confirm the 17-x versions for the kernel, I tried one of them a few weeks back, but had problem connecting to any ap, both withouth and with hiddden SSID. I needed two or more tries to get a ip and often lost it, while 2.6.17-rc6 had no problem connecting to any ap at the first try. Also the 2.6.15 deb stock kernel worked perfect for me. 2.6.18-rc* hangs hard at any point it feels for. -- --- Børge Kennel Arivene http://www.arivene.net ---
Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards
Hello Denis,
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:48:11PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:00:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
Next I compare both the keyboard on the console and in X. Since the third
level is (almost) not printed on the keyboard an I never use X (but normal
keyboards a lot) I'd like to have the third level as on an ordinary
keyboard.
All keys which work as expected are not reported.
Number row without any modifier:
Key between ß and backspace does not respond (expected:')
The leftmost key (next to 1) is instead of ^
Please test by setting XkbModel to macintosh_old2. As explained in
other subthreads, these 2 keys are swapped for some models. The
macintosh_old2 name is a temporary one and will be changed in the
final version.
Yes, this is correct now. The main deficiency (from my POV) is that
the brackets are still goofed up (but I think this might by the mac
layout) (i.e. []|{}} instead of {[]}\), Apple-Q still yields « instead of @
and that ` is not printed (I can get it by Apple-#)
Number row with Apple key pressed:
2 and 3 ok; but then mixed up,
starting at 5:[]|{}}\
should be (from 7): {[]}\
This is still the case
Also for macintohs_old2
There are 4 German Macintosh layouts in /usr/share/keymaps/mac:
* mac-de2-ext.kmap.gz
3rd level for number keys are the ones you want, but keycodes are
wrong, for instance 7 has keycode 26 instead of 8. (ADB keycodes?)
* mac-de-latin1.kmap.gz
3rd level for number keys are the ones you want, but keycodes are
wrong too.
It is broken since it includes include/mac-qwerty-layout which
does no more exist in console-data in sid. (Bug in console-data?)
* mac-de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
3rd level for number keys are the same as in X, and keycodes are
wrong too.
* mac-ibook-de.kmap.gz
You submitted this one, so it is surely the one you are using ;)
Probably, but I've never given it that name. What would be the proper
one, i.e. which of these 4 are intended to stay and support PC-style
german ibook keyboards? (And how does this relate to macintosh_old2?)
And there are also USB variants in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz:
* mac-usb-de-latin1.kmap.gz
Looks similar to X keymaps.
* mac-usb-de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
Ditto.
These are for external USB keyboards, correct?
All console layouts use @, so X has surely to be changed.
Great to hear.
Yxcv-row, with Apple key pressed:
Apple-Y is « and Apple-X is » (which unfortunately does not work on
the console), which is great! (Ideally I'd like them swapped, as in
german they are reversed compared to the french/swiss usage)
This is still the case
It makes sense, this change can be pushed upstream if there is a consensus
amongst German Mac users.
I thinks at least the translators will like it, as »« are the current
quotes used. If you like, I can ask on the german debian translators
list for comments.
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Helge
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Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental
Hello Denis, sorry, this one I cannot test, as it reproducibly (tried it twice) kills my X server when I try to load the keymap, i.e. when issuing: setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0 I will write a bug report agaings x11-common. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[D-I] mass kernel udeb update and preparations for RC1
(Reply-to set to debian-boot; please only add relevant port if needed.) Dear (d-i) porters, First mass upload of kernel udebs = Today I have uploaded kernel udeb updates to 2.6.17-9 _for all arches_. This is the first time using the 'massbuild' [1] script I wrote recently. Effectively this means that d-i porters won't really have to worry anymore about updating kernel udebs after uploads by the kernel team. Only if the kernel major/minor changes will I request porters to do the upload themselves. For stable releases (including ABI changes) I intend to do these mass builds and do the uploads myself. Hopefully this will help the speed with which kernel udebs are updated and allow you all to spend more time testing d-i ;-) Of course porters are still responsible for maintaining which modules will be included for each arch/flavor. If you have changes between kernel major/minor releases you can either commit them and upload, or commit them as UNRELEASED and they will be automatically included in the next mass build. The massbuild script can be used for single-arch builds too. Its main advantage is that kernel images don't need to be installed and the certainty that the correct kernel version will be used. Feel free to contact me to help you get started. Some comments on today's upload: - I have used the last released version of kernel-wedge and will normally do that in the future too - I have not really checked or tested the udebs [2], so there could be some surprises; please be alert for them - m68k: I had to update the dependencies from kernel-image to linux-image The road to RC1 === We are slowly moving towards RC1. I plan to post an initial planning later this week. As we get closer to Etch, testing the installer for all arches gets to be more important. Any time you can spend on that is very much appreciated. There are some issues that need attention: * type of initrd used Some arches have already switched to using initramfs for d-i initrds, other arches are still using cramfs or ext2. Please check if a change could/should be made for your architecture. * 2.4 support now officially dropped Starting with RC1 d-i will no longer support 2.4 based installations. All arches have been switched now and some cleanup has been started; more cleanup is expected and this may cause unexpected breakage. * support for non-devfs device names Colin Watson has committed a series of changes to make d-i support non-devfs device names. We will be slowly moving away from using devfs names, but the most intrusive work will be postponed until after Etch. Please check for unexpected breakage though. * partman-auto using LVM and crypto partman-auto-lvm now has been available for some time, but is still not available for all arches. LVM support is a prerequisite for partman-auto-crypto support which will be uploaded soon. Note: swap on LVM should be possible now and is even required for partman-auto-crypto. If you would like to add support for it, please see [3]. Feel free to contact me or David Härdeman (Alphix) for help. * mips: keyboard issues We've had a report about a dead keyboard on installation (#382983). This needs to be investigated. * powerpc: oldworld boot problems with recent kernels If there are other architecture specific issues that we should be aware of, please let me know. Cheers, FJP [1] http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/d-i/people/fjp/massbuild?op=filerev=0sc=0 [2] The script does have a number of sanity checks though. [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg01054.html pgpIhP1slMbBp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental
On 9/17/06, Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. The macintosh_old2 version has been removed from this version, there are only 2 models: - macintosh_old (old kernels with ADB keycodes) - macintosh (new kernels with PC keycodes) But 2 new options are added: apple:badmap and apple:goodmap to change keycodes for the 2 swapped keys. This means that macintosh_old2 model is replaced by macintosh. If kernel misdetects the attached keyboard, users can select the apple:badmap option. Basically macintosh model is now equivalent to pc105, the only difference is that with the former, layouts are taken from symbols/macintosh_vndr whereas with the latter, they come from symbols/. One can then set a Macintosh layout on a PC keyboard by selecting the macintosh model, or set a PC layout on a Mac with pc105 model, and use apple:badmap and apple:goodmap if needed to swap the 2 problematic keys. This version will be pushed ustream, so please test it and report It works fine for my ibook G4 1.2Ghz 12 --- $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599.999000MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 36.73 timebase: 18432000 platform: PowerMac machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld - - xorg.conf : Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel macintosh Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbOptionslv3:lwin_switch EndSection problems. After that, we will discuss modifiers and default settings. OK. Best regards, Bin Thanks. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental
* Sun 17 Sep (11:24), Denis Barbier scrive: Hi, xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. The macintosh_old2 version has been removed from this version, there are only 2 models: - macintosh_old (old kernels with ADB keycodes) - macintosh (new kernels with PC keycodes) But 2 new options are added: apple:badmap and apple:goodmap to change keycodes for the 2 swapped keys. This means that macintosh_old2 model is replaced by macintosh. If kernel misdetects the attached keyboard, users can select the apple:badmap option. Basically macintosh model is now equivalent to pc105, the only difference is that with the former, layouts are taken from symbols/macintosh_vndr whereas with the latter, they come from symbols/. One can then set a Macintosh layout on a PC keyboard by selecting the macintosh model, or set a PC layout on a Mac with pc105 model, and use apple:badmap and apple:goodmap if needed to swap the 2 problematic keys. This version will be pushed ustream, so please test it and report problems. After that, we will discuss modifiers and default settings. Thanks. works fine for me ibook g4 1.2 GHz 12' cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599.999000MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 36.73 timebase: 18432000 platform: PowerMac machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XlbRules xorg Option XkbModel machintosh Option XkbLayout us EndSection Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciao Bigo! -- There's no place like /home. Registered Linux User # 365044 WEB PAGE: http://crisidev.org ADBSYN PATCH: http://www.cs.unibo.it/~bigoi Please don't send me any Micro$oft attachments! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental
On 9/17/06, Bin Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/17/06, Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. The macintosh_old2 version has been removed from this version, there are only 2 models: - macintosh_old (old kernels with ADB keycodes) - macintosh (new kernels with PC keycodes) But 2 new options are added: apple:badmap and apple:goodmap to change keycodes for the 2 swapped keys. This means that macintosh_old2 model is replaced by macintosh. If kernel misdetects the attached keyboard, users can select the apple:badmap option. Basically macintosh model is now equivalent to pc105, the only difference is that with the former, layouts are taken from symbols/macintosh_vndr whereas with the latter, they come from symbols/. One can then set a Macintosh layout on a PC keyboard by selecting the macintosh model, or set a PC layout on a Mac with pc105 model, and use apple:badmap and apple:goodmap if needed to swap the 2 problematic keys. This version will be pushed ustream, so please test it and report It works fine for my ibook G4 1.2Ghz 12 --- $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599.999000MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 36.73 timebase: 18432000 platform: PowerMac machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld - - xorg.conf : Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel macintosh Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbOptionslv3:lwin_switch EndSection I can also use two others config: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg #Option XkbModel macintosh Option XkbModel ibook Option XkbLayout fr #Option XkbOptionslv3:lwin_switch EndSection and Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg #Option XkbModel macintosh Option XkbModel ibook Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbOptionslv3:lwin_switch EndSection Bin problems. After that, we will discuss modifiers and default settings. OK. Best regards, Bin Thanks. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:31:59PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:10:53PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. Is grub2 usable without it? If it's not, we'd rather remove powerpc from the arch list for now. We don't want to provide a broken build do we? :) Well, as it will be uploaded ASAP, and the only problem will be NEW, it should be no major problem, please don't remove it just now yet. It is not the default, so breakage will only come to those who know what they do. Ah, good. Also, it will be an error at grub2 install time, not run time, and you should maybe do like yaboot-installer, check an absence of ofpathname, and then either try to use yaboot's ofpath, and if this one returns empty, abort and inform the user. Can't we just depend on the package that provides ofpathname? -- Robert Millan My spam trap is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:23:47PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:31:59PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:10:53PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. Is grub2 usable without it? If it's not, we'd rather remove powerpc from the arch list for now. We don't want to provide a broken build do we? :) Well, as it will be uploaded ASAP, and the only problem will be NEW, it should be no major problem, please don't remove it just now yet. It is not the default, so breakage will only come to those who know what they do. Ah, good. Also, it will be an error at grub2 install time, not run time, and you should maybe do like yaboot-installer, check an absence of ofpathname, and then either try to use yaboot's ofpath, and if this one returns empty, abort and inform the user. Can't we just depend on the package that provides ofpathname? Once it is in the archive, yes. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is now a good time to revisit kernel booting on OldWorld PowerMac
hi, all i just got a later 2.6.18-rc7 experimental, of september16, from link sven posted earlier last week: http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ will try it tonight (unless advised otherwise) brian note: have claim by some kernel developer (not ppc) resisting the initrd things that they waste RAM, creating problems for older more limited machines (which may have hard limits as well as expensive proprietary memory modules). I personally do notice that my new world mac is using twice the RAM for everything, according to output of top, compared to my old world. the main differences are 2.6.15 vs 16 and initramfs.conf modules=most vs modules=dep (cuts ramdisk size by ~40%). should not this be a bug, or is simply dealing with newer hardwares, or is cause by problems in 16,17 , maybe fix in 18. we'll see i guess. --- brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i tried the sept5th version of 2.6.18-rc6 from ppckernel with bootx on powerbook3400, it hangs at the first line, Welcome to linux ... i tried to pull Sven's link there but that page was blank/said adress unavailable - check spelling. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is now a good time to revisit kernel booting on OldWorld PowerMac
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 04:20:32PM -0700, brian wrote: hi, all i just got a later 2.6.18-rc7 experimental, of september16, from link sven posted earlier last week: http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ will try it tonight (unless advised otherwise) Please try : http://people.debian.org/~luther/linux-image-2.6.18-rc7-powerpc_2.6.17+2.6.18-rc7-0experimental.1_powerpc.deb Or wait for tomorrows snapshot which include the fix. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems installing Debian for Powerpc on p690 Logical Partitions... Help!
HiI'm in the process of installing and configuring Debian 3.1_r2 for Powerpc on Logical Partitions of an IBM pSeries p690 (Power4 Processor) and one IBM pSeries p570 (Power5 Processor). I have downloaded the DVD images from Debian.org and tried to boot from these media without success. After some reading we have found that using the boot command of Open Firmware we can link the yaboot in /install dir inside the DVD:boot cdrom:,\install\yabootwhen issuing this command looks like the yaboot sequuence cannot find the yaboot.conf file, which in fact does not exist cause yaboot.con is the one in the install dir. Have anyone installed Debian on such platform usign DVD and how ?? Our customer network connections are not so good. Thanks in advanced __Correo Yahoo!Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/
Re: Re: problem boot debian on powerbook g3 (pismo/firewire)
Good morning! I worked on this problem the hole weekend, so it seems to be a problem with the powerbook itself, because I used 5 different CD (3.0, 3.1, ubuntu, etc.) from a friend. He burned it with a plextor premium - so it can't be the fault of the cds. I don't know, what to do next! black screen sounds funny, if you have still problem after trying all of the above, if it still does that you may have to reset the open firmware screen variable (like pcs bios, sort of). well others here can probably advise better than me, i never have had that problem ( i have some idea what to do but its your machine not mine ). but the greatest chance it seems is you have a bad cd, somehow or other. After the boot from the cd there is everytime a blank screen. can somebody help? Thanks a lot Florian Znottka _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
