Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen

2015-05-01 Thread Rick Thomas



On 05/01/15 02:41, Rick Thomas wrote:

On May 1, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Luigi Burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Rick but if you run the X do you have right or wrong colors too?
i have a 7800gtx 512mb and the RadeonHD 6570 2gb

Luigi


I don’t have X installed on this machine.  So I can’t answer your question.

I’m going to be trying the same trick on an amd64 box I’ve been having the same 
kind of trouble with.  I have X installed (but I’m not using it) on that one.  
I’ll let you know what I find out.

Rick

Trying my amd64 box with Nvidia graphics

$ lspci | grep VGA
09:02.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44A [GeForce 
6200] (rev a1)
when booted into X mode gets the screen all scrambled and useless. I had 
to add

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet nomodeset vga=0x31B
to the /etc/default/grub file.  If I left off the vga=0x31B part it 
booted but with the screen set to 1024x768 resolution.  With the vga 
setting, I was able to specify full 1280x1024 resolution.


Everything seems to be working fine, but grub gives me an error message 
about vga= being depricated, but it disappears before I can read the 
whole thing.


Is there some way to make it pause at that point (before loading the 
kernel and initrd) so I can read the message?  Does anyone know what it 
means?


Thanks!
Rick


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RE: Debian 8.0 PPC not working on Pegasos II G4

2015-05-01 Thread luigi burdo
Last that i had been installed was debian wheezy 7.6 
install it without upgrading during installing ( dont install upgrade from 
network during the installation procedures) . Remember to make the Swap and the 
/ partitions dont use ext 4 try with ext 2 fs because is more compatible with 
old pegasos2 openfirmware.
 
remember to make a boot partition where you will copy the kernle and the 
intrd.img ... you can use that partion for boot loader of  morphos and amigaos 
4 plus for start osx .
 
I cant help moore because i dont have  a peggy2 any more :-( ... one of the 
best machine that i had
in my life.
 
Luigi 
CC: intermedi...@hotmail.com; debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
From: a...@gmx.ch
Subject: Re: Debian 8.0 PPC not working on Pegasos II G4
Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 01:09:22 +0200
To: herminio.hernande...@gmail.com

Hello, 
I and also the other guys in our forum already tried to install 7.8, which ends 
in the same problem like 8.0. Which version was running on your Peg-2?
I only remember that 6.x was running fine.  
But it would be nice to find the problem, because the part with the 
installation works fine up to 95%.
MfG, Robert
Send from iPhone 5

Am 01.05.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Herminio Hernandez Jr. 
herminio.hernande...@gmail.com:

Thanks for responding 

Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Luigi Burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com wrote:


  

  
  
Guys i had this machine with radeon radeon 9000 and / 9800pro 

and was working good with debian wheezy 7.x .

i sold it in september 2014.

the machine is one of the best powerpc platform that i had ...phase
5 after bplan after genensis 

was make great hardware.



i suggest the guys to install wheezy that was tested and working by
me in person.





Luigi





On 01/05/15 16:57, Herminio Hernandez,
  Jr. wrote:



  Do you have any advice for these guys?


  -- Forwarded message
--

From: aPEX a...@gmx.ch

Date: Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:36 AM

Subject: Re: Debian 8.0 PPC not working on Pegasos II G4

To: Herminio Hernandez Jr. herminio.hernande...@gmail.com






  Hello Herminio,
  

  
  in our forum now 3 other guys with a PEG-II did a
test and came excatly to the same result / problem.
  

  
  I am not a linux specialist, but the kernel part
which is starting the installation is working fine.
  But because the installation fail and later also the
booting there must be a difference in the
  kernel which is installed later.
  

  
  The Pegasos is based on the CHRP plattform:
  http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/app_note/AN2666.pdf
  

  
  Thank you if you can help in any kind.
  

  
  Best regards, Robert
  

  
  

  
  

  

  Am 01.05.2015 um 16:27 schrieb Herminio Hernandez
Jr. herminio.hernande...@gmail.com:
  

  

  Oh that is not good. Let me reach out to a
friend. 



Sent from my iPhone
  

On May 1, 2015, at 8:41 AM, aPEX a...@gmx.ch
wrote:



  
  

  Hello,
  

  
  I tried this but it ends in this, see
picture.
  IMG_0051.JPG
  

  
  

  
  

  Am 30.04.2015 um 20:57
schrieb Herminio Hernandez Jr. 
herminio.hernande...@gmail.com:



If you are yaboot try this



Linux radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off
video=radeonfb:off 



If that does not help then add this as well
radeon.agpmode=-1



Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 30, 2015, at
  1:46 PM, aPEX a...@gmx.ch
  wrote:

  

  

Re: Debian 8.0 PPC not working on Pegasos II G4

2015-05-01 Thread aPEX
Hello, 

I and also the other guys in our forum already tried to install 7.8, which ends 
in the same problem like 8.0. Which version was running on your Peg-2?

I only remember that 6.x was running fine.  

But it would be nice to find the problem, because the part with the 
installation works fine up to 95%.

MfG, Robert
Send from iPhone 5


 Am 01.05.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Herminio Hernandez Jr. 
 herminio.hernande...@gmail.com:
 
 Thanks for responding 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Luigi Burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Guys i had this machine with radeon radeon 9000 and / 9800pro 
 and was working good with debian wheezy 7.x .
 i sold it in september 2014.
 the machine is one of the best powerpc platform that i had ...phase 5 after 
 bplan after genensis 
 was make great hardware.
 
 i suggest the guys to install wheezy that was tested and working by me in 
 person.
 
 
 Luigi
 
 
 On 01/05/15 16:57, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
 Do you have any advice for these guys?
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: aPEX a...@gmx.ch
 Date: Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:36 AM
 Subject: Re: Debian 8.0 PPC not working on Pegasos II G4
 To: Herminio Hernandez Jr. herminio.hernande...@gmail.com
 
 
 Hello Herminio,
 
 in our forum now 3 other guys with a PEG-II did a test and came excatly to 
 the same result / problem.
 
 I am not a linux specialist, but the kernel part which is starting the 
 installation is working fine.
 But because the installation fail and later also the booting there must be 
 a difference in the
 kernel which is installed later.
 
 The Pegasos is based on the CHRP plattform:
 http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/app_note/AN2666.pdf
 
 Thank you if you can help in any kind.
 
 Best regards, Robert
 
 
 
 Am 01.05.2015 um 16:27 schrieb Herminio Hernandez Jr. 
 herminio.hernande...@gmail.com:
 
 Oh that is not good. Let me reach out to a friend. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2015, at 8:41 AM, aPEX a...@gmx.ch wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I tried this but it ends in this, see picture.
 IMG_0051.JPG
 
 
 
 Am 30.04.2015 um 20:57 schrieb Herminio Hernandez Jr. 
 herminio.hernande...@gmail.com:
 
 If you are yaboot try this
 
 Linux radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off video=radeonfb:off 
 
 If that does not help then add this as well radeon.agpmode=-1
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 1:46 PM, aPEX a...@gmx.ch wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 it is a RADEON 9000 Pro with 128MB Memory.
 
 Best regards, aPEX
 
 
 
 Am 30.04.2015 um 19:38 schrieb Herminio Hernandez Jr. 
 herminio.hernande...@gmail.com:
 
 What is the video card you are using?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:07 PM, aPEX a...@gmx.ch wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 no one who can help? Debian 6.8 was still running fine…
 I think if I will try Debian 8 I will have same problem like with 7.8?
 
 Best regards, aPEX
 
 
 
 Am 27.04.2015 um 20:27 schrieb aPEX a...@gmx.ch:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I was using a long time Debian 6.x on my Pegasos II G4 with 1Ghz CPU 
 und 2GB Memory.
 Last week I got the stupid idea to install everything new using 
 latest Debian 7.8, because
 on the DVD there is still the install script for the Pegasos. :-)
 
 Installation itself is working fine till 95% and then abort there, 
 some like after-installation trigger.
 We tested it on several Pegasos II that we have, always the same. I 
 can go on without installing
 more software, but I assume that also some basic stuff is missing.
 
 Also the 3.x kernel is no more working on the Pegasos II, you will 
 get screen with grafic trash
 right after starting the kernel.
 
 IMG_9965.JPG
 
 Any idea? I tried it in the IRC, but got no answer. 
 
 It would be really fantastic if this problem could be fixed and the 
 Pegasos II will work again. 
 
 
 Best regards, Robert aka aPEX
 
 
 
 PS: I am just a user, no Linux guru, sorry for this…
 
 
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Re: Guide to getting ported?

2015-05-01 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi,

Paul Wise wrote:
 Do any porters have any input on this page?
 https://wiki.debian.org/GettingPorted

This page seems it will be useful;  I will add some bits to it.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen

2015-05-01 Thread Risto Suominen
Hi Rick,

2015-04-30 12.49 UTC+03.00, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com:

 Did you ever discover how to fix it without holding back on the kernel level?

No, I didn't. (Sorry for the late reply.)

I'm using X, so the 'disable KMS' solution doesn't sound good.

Risto


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RE: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen

2015-05-01 Thread luigi burdo
Thanks for the tip Dan i will test it on my quad.the only problem i have a 
radeonhd on it in couple with nvidia will se if with the suggested parameter i 
will able finally to have something working here and no more crashes of Xorg!

 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:49:43 -0700
 From: dand1...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
 To: rbtho...@pobox.com
 CC: intermedi...@hotmail.com; risto.suomi...@gmail.com; 
 debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 
 On my machine with an ATI card, the boot parameters radeon.modeset=0 or 
 nomodeset work.  So on the second Yaboot screen, I type either Linux 
 radeon.modeset=0 or Linux nomodeset to disable KMS.  For machines with 
 Nvidia cards, you can do either Linux nomodeset or Linux 
 nouveau.modeset=0.  To make the boot parameters permanent so you don't have 
 to type them in anymore, add them with the append line to your yaboot.conf 
 like this:
 
 image=/boot/vmlinux
 label=Linux
 read-only
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 append=nomodeset video=offb:off
 
 I added the video=offb:off parameter because my machine experienced a bug 
 where the open firmware framebuffer was inhibiting the fall-back radeon 
 framebuffer from loading:
 
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=782066
 
 Also, don't forget to run sudo ybin -v after changing yaboot.conf.  I 
 always forget that.
 
 Regards,
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
  To: Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com
  Cc: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com, Risto Suominen 
 risto.suomi...@gmail.com, PowerPC List Debian 
 debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
  Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 5:39 PM
  
  Disabling KMS sounds like
  something I could try (as I say, no X running on this
  machine).
  
  How do I do
  that?
  
  Thanks!
  Rick
  
  On Apr
  30, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dan DeVoto wrote:
  
   I have the black screen problem on my
  iBook.  It happens about halfway through the boot process,
  when kernel modesetting is enabled.  I left a bug
  report:
   
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90220
   
   A workaround is to
  boot with parameters that disabled KMS, but if you have X
  running you'll have an unaccelerated desktop.
   
   Regards,
   
   Dan
   
   
  
  
   On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com
  wrote:
   
   Subject:
  Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
   To: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
   Cc: Risto Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com,
  PowerPC List Debian debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
   Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 1:35 PM
   
   
   I
   don’t have X.org
  on this machine.  I’m trying to keep
  
  it as simple as possible, so I did not install any
  desktop
   task.  Just the basic virtual
  terminal console.
   
  
  Even so, I get the usual text
   streaming
  by during the boot process, but then a blank
   screen.  The system is up — I can ssh
  into it, but no
   console.
   
   Anybody know
   what’s causing it?
  
  
   Rick
   
   On Apr
   30, 2015, at
  5:02 AM, luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
   wrote:
   
   I start have
   this
  issue on Jessie
   but the black
   screen is the simptom i face because Xorg
  make a hard crash
   (reported to xorg
  devs).
   switch to tty
   ... and try to make xinit or start x .
   
   
   On wheezy delete the xorg.conf and
   probably you will fix it
   
   Luigi
  Burdo
   
  
  Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX
  
  5200, black screen
   From: rbtho...@pobox.com
   Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 02:49:42
   -0700
   CC: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
   To: risto.suomi...@gmail.com
   
  
  Hi
   Risto,
  
  
   
   I’m
  seeing this as well. I have a PowerMac11,2 (dual core
   G5 7GB RAM)
  
  
   
   Did you
  ever discover how to fix it without holding
   back on the kernel level?
   
  
  Anybody? All clues are welcome!
  
  
   Thanks!
   Rick
  
  
   On Dec 1, 2014, at 6:16 AM,
  Risto
   Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
   
   Hi,
   
   This is probably an old
  issue,
   possibly discussed before, even
  on this list.
   
   
   I've
  been holding my linux-image as version 3.2.0-2 to
   avoid the problem.
   
   So, the problem: after
  upgrading
   to 3.2.0-4, X display is not
  working.
   
   According to Xorg.log everything
  is as before, but
   the screen remains
   black. (At
   boot the text console is ok.)
   
   
   I'm using kernel
  command
   line:
   
   
   video=TV-1:d
   
   and xorg.conf:
   
   
   Section
  Device
   
   Identifier Configured Video
  Device
   BusID
   PCI:240:16:0
   
   Driver
  nouveau
   
   Option Monitor-TV-1
  Configured
   Monitor
   Option   
   NoAccel   
  true
  
  EndSection
   
   
  
  Section
   Monitor
   
  
  Identifier Configured Monitor
   Option Ignore
   true
   
  
  EndSection
   
   Section Screen
   

Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen

2015-05-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Wow, Dan!

Unlike Luigi, I have no need for X on this machine.  I’m happy (indeed, I’m 
overjoyed!) to have a working text console.

I’m now using
append=“ nomodeset”
On my MacPro G5, which has an nvidia card.  To be specific:

$ lspci | grep -i VGA
:0b:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 
6600 LE] (rev a2)

How can I add this discussion to your bug report at bugs.freedesktop.org as 
further evidence of the problem?

Thank you a thousand times!
Rick

On Apr 30, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On my machine with an ATI card, the boot parameters radeon.modeset=0 or 
 nomodeset work.  So on the second Yaboot screen, I type either Linux 
 radeon.modeset=0 or Linux nomodeset to disable KMS.  For machines with 
 Nvidia cards, you can do either Linux nomodeset or Linux 
 nouveau.modeset=0.  To make the boot parameters permanent so you don't have 
 to type them in anymore, add them with the append line to your yaboot.conf 
 like this:
 
 image=/boot/vmlinux
label=Linux
read-only
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=nomodeset video=offb:off
 
 I added the video=offb:off parameter because my machine experienced a bug 
 where the open firmware framebuffer was inhibiting the fall-back radeon 
 framebuffer from loading:
 
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=782066
 
 Also, don't forget to run sudo ybin -v after changing yaboot.conf.  I 
 always forget that.
 
 Regards,
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
 To: Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com
 Cc: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com, Risto Suominen 
 risto.suomi...@gmail.com, PowerPC List Debian 
 debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 5:39 PM
 
 Disabling KMS sounds like
 something I could try (as I say, no X running on this
 machine).
 
 How do I do
 that?
 
 Thanks!
 Rick
 
 On Apr
 30, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dan DeVoto wrote:
 
 I have the black screen problem on my
 iBook.  It happens about halfway through the boot process,
 when kernel modesetting is enabled.  I left a bug
 report:
 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90220
 
 A workaround is to
 boot with parameters that disabled KMS, but if you have X
 running you'll have an unaccelerated desktop.
 
 Regards,
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com
 wrote:
 
 Subject:
 Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
 To: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
 Cc: Risto Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com,
 PowerPC List Debian debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 1:35 PM
 
 
 I
 don’t have X.org
 on this machine.  I’m trying to keep
 
 it as simple as possible, so I did not install any
 desktop
 task.  Just the basic virtual
 terminal console.
 
 
 Even so, I get the usual text
 streaming
 by during the boot process, but then a blank
 screen.  The system is up — I can ssh
 into it, but no
 console.
 
 Anybody know
 what’s causing it?
 
 
 Rick
 
 On Apr
 30, 2015, at
 5:02 AM, luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I start have
 this
 issue on Jessie
 but the black
 screen is the simptom i face because Xorg
 make a hard crash
 (reported to xorg
 devs).
 switch to tty
 ... and try to make xinit or start x .
 
 
 On wheezy delete the xorg.conf and
 probably you will fix it
 
 Luigi
 Burdo
 
 
 Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX
 
 5200, black screen
 From: rbtho...@pobox.com
 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 02:49:42
 -0700
 CC: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 To: risto.suomi...@gmail.com
 
 
 Hi
 Risto,
 
 
 
 I’m
 seeing this as well. I have a PowerMac11,2 (dual core
 G5 7GB RAM)
 
 
 
 Did you
 ever discover how to fix it without holding
 back on the kernel level?
 
 
 Anybody? All clues are welcome!
 
 
 Thanks!
 Rick
 
 
 On Dec 1, 2014, at 6:16 AM,
 Risto
 Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 This is probably an old
 issue,
 possibly discussed before, even
 on this list.
 
 
 I've
 been holding my linux-image as version 3.2.0-2 to
 avoid the problem.
 
 So, the problem: after
 upgrading
 to 3.2.0-4, X display is not
 working.
 
 According to Xorg.log everything
 is as before, but
 the screen remains
 black. (At
 boot the text console is ok.)
 
 
 I'm using kernel
 command
 line:
 
 
 video=TV-1:d
 
 and xorg.conf:
 
 
 Section
 Device
 
 Identifier Configured Video
 Device
 BusID
 PCI:240:16:0
 
 Driver
 nouveau
 
 Option Monitor-TV-1
 Configured
 Monitor
 Option   
 NoAccel   
 true
 
 EndSection
 
 
 
 Section
 Monitor
 
 
 Identifier Configured Monitor
 Option Ignore
 true
 
 
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
 Identifier Default
 Screen
 Device
 
 Configured Video Device
 
 
 EndSection
 
 In addition, I've tried
 to
 add /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf:
 
 
 nouveau noaccel=1
 
 
 It makes
 no difference.
 
 I'm using Wheezy (7.7)
 with
 all 

RE: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen

2015-05-01 Thread luigi burdo
I had been test and with:
nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0 On Nvidia i have Xorg working but colors are 
totally wrong and gfx totally glitchedRadeon reply with drm ERROR UMS not 
supported by radeon module.
nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0 radeon.modeset=0 video=radeonfb:off 
video=nouveaufb:off On Nvidia i have Xorg working but colors are totally wrong 
and gfx totally glitchedRadeon reply with drm ERROR UMS not supported by radeon 
module.
if i set: nomodeset nouveau.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=0 video=radeonfb:off 
video=nouveaufb:off i have black screen on nvidia and on radeon
if i set :nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0 radeon.modeset=1 video=radeonfb:off 
video=nouveaufb:off i have screen on radeon but Xorg crash like reported on 
Xorg dev .
if i set :video=offb:off in all the options write before and not set the 
modeset to 1 on one the modulei dont have screen at all.

Luigi Burdo
(i continue be out for all new release  :- ( ) 
 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 22:49:43 -0700
 From: dand1...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
 To: rbtho...@pobox.com
 CC: intermedi...@hotmail.com; risto.suomi...@gmail.com; 
 debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 
 On my machine with an ATI card, the boot parameters radeon.modeset=0 or 
 nomodeset work.  So on the second Yaboot screen, I type either Linux 
 radeon.modeset=0 or Linux nomodeset to disable KMS.  For machines with 
 Nvidia cards, you can do either Linux nomodeset or Linux 
 nouveau.modeset=0.  To make the boot parameters permanent so you don't have 
 to type them in anymore, add them with the append line to your yaboot.conf 
 like this:
 
 image=/boot/vmlinux
 label=Linux
 read-only
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 append=nomodeset video=offb:off
 
 I added the video=offb:off parameter because my machine experienced a bug 
 where the open firmware framebuffer was inhibiting the fall-back radeon 
 framebuffer from loading:
 
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=782066
 
 Also, don't forget to run sudo ybin -v after changing yaboot.conf.  I 
 always forget that.
 
 Regards,
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
  To: Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com
  Cc: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com, Risto Suominen 
 risto.suomi...@gmail.com, PowerPC List Debian 
 debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
  Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 5:39 PM
  
  Disabling KMS sounds like
  something I could try (as I say, no X running on this
  machine).
  
  How do I do
  that?
  
  Thanks!
  Rick
  
  On Apr
  30, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dan DeVoto wrote:
  
   I have the black screen problem on my
  iBook.  It happens about halfway through the boot process,
  when kernel modesetting is enabled.  I left a bug
  report:
   
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90220
   
   A workaround is to
  boot with parameters that disabled KMS, but if you have X
  running you'll have an unaccelerated desktop.
   
   Regards,
   
   Dan
   
   
  
  
   On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com
  wrote:
   
   Subject:
  Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
   To: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
   Cc: Risto Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com,
  PowerPC List Debian debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
   Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 1:35 PM
   
   
   I
   don’t have X.org
  on this machine.  I’m trying to keep
  
  it as simple as possible, so I did not install any
  desktop
   task.  Just the basic virtual
  terminal console.
   
  
  Even so, I get the usual text
   streaming
  by during the boot process, but then a blank
   screen.  The system is up — I can ssh
  into it, but no
   console.
   
   Anybody know
   what’s causing it?
  
  
   Rick
   
   On Apr
   30, 2015, at
  5:02 AM, luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
   wrote:
   
   I start have
   this
  issue on Jessie
   but the black
   screen is the simptom i face because Xorg
  make a hard crash
   (reported to xorg
  devs).
   switch to tty
   ... and try to make xinit or start x .
   
   
   On wheezy delete the xorg.conf and
   probably you will fix it
   
   Luigi
  Burdo
   
  
  Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX
  
  5200, black screen
   From: rbtho...@pobox.com
   Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 02:49:42
   -0700
   CC: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
   To: risto.suomi...@gmail.com
   
  
  Hi
   Risto,
  
  
   
   I’m
  seeing this as well. I have a PowerMac11,2 (dual core
   G5 7GB RAM)
  
  
   
   Did you
  ever discover how to fix it without holding
   back on the kernel level?
   
  
  Anybody? All clues are welcome!
  
  
   Thanks!
   Rick
  
  
   On Dec 1, 2014, at 6:16 AM,
  Risto
   Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
   
   Hi,
   
   This is probably an old
  issue,
   possibly discussed before, even
  on this list.
   
   
   I've
  been holding my linux-image as version 

Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen

2015-05-01 Thread Luigi Burdo

Hi Rick but if you run the X do you have right or wrong colors too?
i have a 7800gtx 512mb and the RadeonHD 6570 2gb

Luigi

On 01/05/15 10:32, Rick Thomas wrote:
 Wow, Dan!

 Unlike Luigi, I have no need for X on this machine.  I’m happy (indeed, I’m 
 overjoyed!) to have a working text console.

 I’m now using
 append=“ nomodeset”
 On my MacPro G5, which has an nvidia card.  To be specific:

 $ lspci | grep -i VGA
 :0b:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 
 6600 LE] (rev a2)

 How can I add this discussion to your bug report at bugs.freedesktop.org as 
 further evidence of the problem?

 Thank you a thousand times!
 Rick

 On Apr 30, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On my machine with an ATI card, the boot parameters radeon.modeset=0 or 
 nomodeset work.  So on the second Yaboot screen, I type either Linux 
 radeon.modeset=0 or Linux nomodeset to disable KMS.  For machines with 
 Nvidia cards, you can do either Linux nomodeset or Linux 
 nouveau.modeset=0.  To make the boot parameters permanent so you don't have 
 to type them in anymore, add them with the append line to your yaboot.conf 
 like this:

 image=/boot/vmlinux
label=Linux
read-only
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=nomodeset video=offb:off

 I added the video=offb:off parameter because my machine experienced a bug 
 where the open firmware framebuffer was inhibiting the fall-back radeon 
 framebuffer from loading:

 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=782066

 Also, don't forget to run sudo ybin -v after changing yaboot.conf.  I 
 always forget that.

 Regards,

 Dan

 
 On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
 To: Dan DeVoto dand1...@yahoo.com
 Cc: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com, Risto Suominen 
 risto.suomi...@gmail.com, PowerPC List Debian 
 debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 5:39 PM

 Disabling KMS sounds like
 something I could try (as I say, no X running on this
 machine).

 How do I do
 that?

 Thanks!
 Rick

 On Apr
 30, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dan DeVoto wrote:

 I have the black screen problem on my
 iBook.  It happens about halfway through the boot process,
 when kernel modesetting is enabled.  I left a bug
 report:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90220

 A workaround is to
 boot with parameters that disabled KMS, but if you have X
 running you'll have an unaccelerated desktop.
 Regards,

 Dan



 
 On Thu, 4/30/15, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com
 wrote:
 Subject:
 Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen
 To: luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
 Cc: Risto Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com,
 PowerPC List Debian debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 1:35 PM


 I
 don’t have X.org
 on this machine.  I’m trying to keep
 it as simple as possible, so I did not install any
 desktop
 task.  Just the basic virtual
 terminal console.

 Even so, I get the usual text
 streaming
 by during the boot process, but then a blank
 screen.  The system is up — I can ssh
 into it, but no
 console.

 Anybody know
 what’s causing it?

 Rick

 On Apr
 30, 2015, at
 5:02 AM, luigi burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 I start have
 this
 issue on Jessie
 but the black
 screen is the simptom i face because Xorg
 make a hard crash
 (reported to xorg
 devs).
 switch to tty
 ... and try to make xinit or start x .
 On wheezy delete the xorg.conf and
 probably you will fix it
 Luigi
 Burdo
 Subject: Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX
 5200, black screen
 From: rbtho...@pobox.com
 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 02:49:42
 -0700
 CC: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 To: risto.suomi...@gmail.com


 Hi
 Risto,
 I’m
 seeing this as well. I have a PowerMac11,2 (dual core
 G5 7GB RAM)
 Did you
 ever discover how to fix it without holding
 back on the kernel level?

 Anybody? All clues are welcome!
 Thanks!
 Rick

 On Dec 1, 2014, at 6:16 AM,
 Risto
 Suominen risto.suomi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 This is probably an old
 issue,
 possibly discussed before, even
 on this list.

 I've
 been holding my linux-image as version 3.2.0-2 to
 avoid the problem.
 So, the problem: after
 upgrading
 to 3.2.0-4, X display is not
 working.
 According to Xorg.log everything
 is as before, but
 the screen remains
 black. (At
 boot the text console is ok.)
 I'm using kernel
 command
 line:
 video=TV-1:d
 and xorg.conf:


 Section
 Device
 Identifier Configured Video
 Device
 BusID
 PCI:240:16:0
 Driver
 nouveau
 Option Monitor-TV-1
 Configured
 Monitor
 Option   
 NoAccel   
 true
 EndSection
 Section
 Monitor
 Identifier Configured Monitor
 Option Ignore
 true
 EndSection
 Section Screen
 Identifier Default
 Screen
 Device
 Configured Video Device
 EndSection
 In addition, I've tried
 to
 add /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf:
 nouveau noaccel=1


 It makes
 no 

Re: PowerMac G5, GeForce FX 5200, black screen

2015-05-01 Thread Rick Thomas

On May 1, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Luigi Burdo intermedi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi Rick but if you run the X do you have right or wrong colors too?
 i have a 7800gtx 512mb and the RadeonHD 6570 2gb
 
 Luigi


I don’t have X installed on this machine.  So I can’t answer your question.

I’m going to be trying the same trick on an amd64 box I’ve been having the same 
kind of trouble with.  I have X installed (but I’m not using it) on that one.  
I’ll let you know what I find out.

Rick

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