Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-04-06 Thread Michael Schmitz
  Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
  This is a real nuissance for me; I've talked to him, but to no avail...
 
  nvsetvol 0

 While this seems to work indeed, there is more to it, I beleive.

 Under OS X there are a few apps that can independantly of sound volume,
 change the volume of the startup sound. I have done this on mine,
 verified it is silent, but still nvsetvol shows a default volume of 24.

 So I believe there are two settings under OF, and I hope nvsetvol
 changes either both of them, or a master applzing to the two.

I've tried one of the tools you reported on my Powerbook. All it does is
set the nvram volume parameter different from the master volume. Maybe it
does something different on the mini - I can send you a debug nvsetenv
binary that dumps the entire nvram to check that. Dumping /dev/nvram
and comparing the binary blobs directly should even show differences
in other places of the nvram (I see two regions that differ, one of these
can be assigned to the XPRAM chunk).

Michael



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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-30 Thread Michael Schmitz
  nvsetvol 0

 While this seems to work indeed, there is more to it, I beleive.

 Under OS X there are a few apps that can independantly of sound volume,
 change the volume of the startup sound. I have done this on mine,
 verified it is silent, but still nvsetvol shows a default volume of 24.

Can you name a few of these apps?

 So I believe there are two settings under OF, and I hope nvsetvol
 changes either both of them, or a master applzing to the two.

nvsetvol changes just the one setting in the XPRAM. If there's more info
in the XPRAM regarding volume, I'd like a hint.

Michael


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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-30 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 3/30/06, Yves-Alexis Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 22:17 +0200, Mich Lanners wrote:
  Under OS X there are a few apps that can independantly of sound
  volume,
  change the volume of the startup sound. I have done this on mine,
  verified it is silent, but still nvsetvol shows a default volume of
  24.

 and (at least on my powerbook) if I mute the master volume on OSX, there
 is no more BOING at startup.

same here

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-30 Thread Mich Lanners
On  30 Mar, this message from Eddy Petrişor echoed through cyberspace:
 On 3/30/06, Yves-Alexis Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 22:17 +0200, Mich Lanners wrote:
  Under OS X there are a few apps that can independantly of sound
  volume,
  change the volume of the startup sound. I have done this on mine,
  verified it is silent, but still nvsetvol shows a default volume of
  24.

 and (at least on my powerbook) if I mute the master volume on OSX,
 there is no more BOING at startup.
 
 same here

That's what I was used to, but on my mini i was not the case, hence the
search for an app to mute it.

Cheers

Michel

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-30 Thread Mich Lanners
Hi Michael,

On  30 Mar, this message from Michael Schmitz echoed through cyberspace:
  nvsetvol 0

 While this seems to work indeed, there is more to it, I beleive.

 Under OS X there are a few apps that can independantly of sound
 volume, change the volume of the startup sound. I have done this on
 mine, verified it is silent, but still nvsetvol shows a default
 volume of 24.
 
 Can you name a few of these apps?

This page mentions two, and I used the first one:

http://interface.blog.com/Mac+OS+X+Missing+Features/

 nvsetvol changes just the one setting in the XPRAM. If there's more
 info in the XPRAM regarding volume, I'd like a hint.

Maybe you can find something there. Alas, often enough under MacOS the
gory details are hidden in some System library.

Cheers

Michel

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How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Pancho Horrillo
Hi!

Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
This is a real nuissance for me; I've talked to him, but to no avail...

Googling I found this app, for MacOS X:
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~arcana/software.en.html

but no MacOS X is installed in my mac, only etch.

Next step is asking to them about how the app works (I got their email);
but I tought of asking here first, and maybe coordinate efforts, etc.

Obvious stuff I tried:
. The bong sounds even if headphones are plugged. Through the internal
speaker, I mean.
. Tried to press [mute] key before pressing the power button, but this
is a usb happy hacking, not an ADB mac keyboard...
. Tried setting the volume to 0 before shutting down the beast. No
avail.

Speakerectomy apart, do you know any way to disable this bong? Any
OpenFirmware variable that can be set? (I've looked for it, too, but no
luck either).

I tell you that this is troublesome for me: I live in an old building;
the walls are very thin..., and due to the (bad) architecture of the
building, the bong can be heard by, virtually, everyone. Specially at
night. I can hear clearly the conversations of at least three different
neighbours... 

Thank you,

Pancho.

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Johannes Berg
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 15:39 +0200, Pancho Horrillo wrote:

 Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
 This is a real nuissance for me; I've talked to him, but to no avail...

nvsetvol 0

johannes


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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread wrobell
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 15:39 +0200, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
[...]
 
 Speakerectomy apart, do you know any way to disable this bong? Any
 OpenFirmware variable that can be set? (I've looked for it, too, but no
 luck either).

does

  nvsetvol 0

work for you?

regards,

   wrobell [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Bin Zhang
On 3/29/06, Pancho Horrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
 This is a real nuissance for me; I've talked to him, but to no avail...

 Googling I found this app, for MacOS X:
 http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~arcana/software.en.html

 but no MacOS X is installed in my mac, only etch.

 Next step is asking to them about how the app works (I got their email);
 but I tought of asking here first, and maybe coordinate efforts, etc.

 Obvious stuff I tried:
 . The bong sounds even if headphones are plugged. Through the internal
 speaker, I mean.
 . Tried to press [mute] key before pressing the power button, but this
 is a usb happy hacking, not an ADB mac keyboard...
 . Tried setting the volume to 0 before shutting down the beast. No
 avail.

 Speakerectomy apart, do you know any way to disable this bong? Any
 OpenFirmware variable that can be set? (I've looked for it, too, but no
 luck either).


I use the command nvsetvol from the package powerpc-utils on my ibook.
nvsetvol 0 will turn it off, but I like nvsetvol 1.

Regards,
Bin


 I tell you that this is troublesome for me: I live in an old building;
 the walls are very thin..., and due to the (bad) architecture of the
 building, the bong can be heard by, virtually, everyone. Specially at
 night. I can hear clearly the conversations of at least three different
 neighbours...

 Thank you,

 Pancho.

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 you are ignorant is a great step
 to knowledge.

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Patricio Valarezo

wrobell wrote:

On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 15:39 +0200, Pancho Horrillo wrote:


Hi!

Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.


[...]


Speakerectomy apart, do you know any way to disable this bong? Any
OpenFirmware variable that can be set? (I've looked for it, too, but no
luck either).



does

  nvsetvol 0

work for you?

regards,

   wrobell [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 is there any way to change the bong chime for a customized 
sound like today is your best day?? ;-)


thanks


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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Johannes Berg
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 10:06 -0500, Patricio Valarezo wrote:

  is there any way to change the bong chime for a customized 
 sound like today is your best day?? ;-)

no.

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Pancho Horrillo
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 03:45:30PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 15:39 +0200, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
 
  Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
  This is a real nuissance for me; I've talked to him, but to no avail...
 
 nvsetvol 0
 
It works!

Danke.

 johannes

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Michael Schmitz
   is there any way to change the bong chime for a customized
  sound like today is your best day?? ;-)

 no.

Short of re-flashing OF, I guess :-)

Michael


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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 the mental interface of
Pancho Horrillo told:

 Hi!
 
 Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
 This is a real nuissance for me; I've talked to him, but to no avail...

Hmm, the so called bong is a controlswitch for some harware issues
as well, Some time ago I was wondering, why the is silent: There was
one of the memory rows defekt on my pb. So I get nervous when I
don't hear the fantastic bong ;)

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Mich Lanners
On  29 Mar, this message from Johannes Berg echoed through cyberspace:
 On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 15:39 +0200, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
 
 Mi G4 mac mini, following apple tradition, starts with a noisy bong!.
 This is a real nuissance for me; I've talked to him, but to no avail...
 
 nvsetvol 0

While this seems to work indeed, there is more to it, I beleive.

Under OS X there are a few apps that can independantly of sound volume,
change the volume of the startup sound. I have done this on mine,
verified it is silent, but still nvsetvol shows a default volume of 24.

So I believe there are two settings under OF, and I hope nvsetvol
changes either both of them, or a master applzing to the two.

Cheers

Michel

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Re: How can I get rid of the starting bong! (G4-mac mini)?

2006-03-29 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 22:17 +0200, Mich Lanners wrote:
 Under OS X there are a few apps that can independantly of sound
 volume,
 change the volume of the startup sound. I have done this on mine,
 verified it is silent, but still nvsetvol shows a default volume of
 24. 

and (at least on my powerbook) if I mute the master volume on OSX, there
is no more BOING at startup.
-- 
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