Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
Le lundi 02 mars 2009 à 16:29 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit : And well, that might make pretty obvious to anyone not convinced yet that -central can't really be considered a “chosen one”, no? So how does python-support address this bug without instead making python-based programs excessively brittle during upgrades? It does by running update-python-modules -p with a trigger, that is run after the package’s files have been removed. All symbolic links that point to removed files are then purged. Cheers, -- .''`. Debian 5.0 Lenny has been released! : :' : `. `' Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told `-me that if you don't install Lenny, he'd melt your brain. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org writes: PS while converting [a package using python-central to use python-support], remember to add to preinst something like these 3 lines: | if [ $1 = upgrade ] dpkg --compare-versions $2 lt 1.2.3-4; then | pycentral pkgremove python-foo | fi Why does this not happen automatically when the package is upgraded from a version that uses python-central? -- \ “All progress has resulted from people who took unpopular | `\ positions.” —Adlai Stevenson | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
[Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org writes: PS while converting [a package using python-central to use python-support], remember to add to preinst something like these 3 lines: | if [ $1 = upgrade ] dpkg --compare-versions $2 lt 1.2.3-4; then | pycentral pkgremove python-foo | fi Why does this not happen automatically when the package is upgraded from a version that uses python-central? how can dh_pysupport know that x versions ago this package was using python-central? -- -=[ Piotr Ożarowski ]=- -=[ http://www.ozarowski.pl ]=- pgpPcI89omDXb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2009-03-02] [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org writes: PS while converting [a package using python-central to use python-support], remember to add to preinst something like these 3 lines: | if [ $1 = upgrade ] dpkg --compare-versions $2 lt 1.2.3-4; then | pycentral pkgremove python-foo | fi Why does this not happen automatically when the package is upgraded from a version that uses python-central? how can dh_pysupport know that x versions ago this package was using python-central? well, it can at install time, let's file a wishlist bug -- -=[ Piotr Ożarowski ]=- -=[ http://www.ozarowski.pl ]=- pgpcqznaHk8gS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
[Ondrej Certik, 2009-03-03] why is the decision unfair? because *I* think it's unfair as both tools deserve to be the chosen one Ondrej: stop reading debian-devel, you see trolls everywhere already ;-P -- -=[ Piotr Ożarowski ]=- -=[ http://www.ozarowski.pl ]=- pgpaT3cZ1Nt8P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (03/03/2009): [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (02/03/2009): [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Why does this not happen automatically when the package is upgraded from a version that uses python-central? how can dh_pysupport know that x versions ago this package was using python-central? I suggest you check “6.6 Details of unpack phase of installation or upgrade” in the Policy. (I'm not sure whether -central is so buggy that it can't handle removal properly, but I guess it could be.) see #479852 OK. I guess it's the answer Ben was looking for. And well, that might make pretty obvious to anyone not convinced yet that -central can't really be considered a “chosen one”, no? Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz writes: why is the decision unfair? You'll have to ask Piotr (the one making the decision, and also the one who chose that subject field), not me. -- \ “Pity the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.” —Donald | `\ Robert Perry Marquis | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 12:39:48AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (03/03/2009): [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (02/03/2009): [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Why does this not happen automatically when the package is upgraded from a version that uses python-central? how can dh_pysupport know that x versions ago this package was using python-central? I suggest you check “6.6 Details of unpack phase of installation or upgrade” in the Policy. (I'm not sure whether -central is so buggy that it can't handle removal properly, but I guess it could be.) see #479852 OK. I guess it's the answer Ben was looking for. And well, that might make pretty obvious to anyone not convinced yet that -central can't really be considered a “chosen one”, no? So how does python-support address this bug without instead making python-based programs excessively brittle during upgrades? There are tradeoffs here. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (03/03/2009): [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03] Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org (02/03/2009): [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] Why does [removal of links created by ‘python-central’] not happen automatically when the package is upgraded from a version that uses python-central? (I'm not sure whether -central is so buggy that it can't handle removal properly, but I guess it could be.) see #479852 [URL:http://bugs.debian.org/479852] OK. I guess it's the answer Ben was looking for. Yes, that answers my question. For future reference: The above bug report explains that ‘python-central’ causes packages to create symlinks during ‘postinst’, but not remove them during ‘prerm’. -- \ “It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take | `\hold” —Hunter S. Tolkien, _Fear and Loathing in Barad-Dûr_ | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
