Re: Qt 5.12 LTS in Buster
In data sabato 26 gennaio 2019 19:00:11 CET, Simon Quigley ha scritto: > Hello, > > On 1/26/19 11:56 AM, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > > I wonder whether it would have been possible to ask the release team > > for a freeze exception in advance for this release of Qt, as running > > the LTS on a stable release would ease future maintenance in Debian > > stable. > > Now though it's likely too late for that, as a new Qt could push back > > the schedule in case existing software breaks due to it. > > Also wearing my Ubuntu hat, we're going to get 5.12.1 in Disco (19.04) > as soon as it comes out; I brought it up between Debian Qt members > yesterday because I was also thinking about doing it in Experimental. If > that works out and the release team ACKs, I personally wouldn't be > opposed to it. > > I'll let other Debian Qt members give their opinion on the matter before > we consider talking to the release team. :) Definitely not an option at this point. As usual, a new minor Qt release introduces minor source incompatibilities (usually removing includes from public headers, breaking the build of sources). Also, there are also behaviour changes, e.g. in QtWayland and don't know where else. I remember seeing patches for both the situations in KDE's phabricator, and that would anyway cover only the issues in software by KDE (and not in any other Qt software). Considering that the last couple of 5.x -> 5.x+1 transitions of Qt caused a number of FTBFS & other issues, completely not planned in advanced (e.g. by reporting bugs to packages asking to make changes for compatibility with the upcoming Qt), doing this work right now at slightly more than 1 month before the freeze is simply not a reasonable choice. Also, having an LTS in stable would make sense only if, other than what I explained before, the release team would then agree to rebase Qt in stable. Considering this usually never happens, the benefit of an LTS is moot. -- Pino Toscano signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Qt 5.12 LTS in Buster
Hello, On 1/26/19 11:56 AM, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > I wonder whether it would have been possible to ask the release team > for a freeze exception in advance for this release of Qt, as running > the LTS on a stable release would ease future maintenance in Debian > stable. > Now though it's likely too late for that, as a new Qt could push back > the schedule in case existing software breaks due to it. Also wearing my Ubuntu hat, we're going to get 5.12.1 in Disco (19.04) as soon as it comes out; I brought it up between Debian Qt members yesterday because I was also thinking about doing it in Experimental. If that works out and the release team ACKs, I personally wouldn't be opposed to it. I'll let other Debian Qt members give their opinion on the matter before we consider talking to the release team. :) -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@debian.org tsimonq2 on freenode and OFTC 5C7A BEA2 0F86 3045 9CC8 C8B5 E27F 2CF8 458C 2FA4 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Qt 5.12 LTS in Buster
Am Sa., 26. Jan. 2019 um 18:50 Uhr schrieb Simon Quigley : > > Hello, > > On 1/26/19 3:59 AM, Anatoliy Golubev wrote: > > Hello! > > Is there any chance to see Qt 5.12 LST in Buster? > > Unfortunately the transition freeze came too soon, we'll have to ship > with 5.11. > > Sorry, and thanks for using Debian. I wonder whether it would have been possible to ask the release team for a freeze exception in advance for this release of Qt, as running the LTS on a stable release would ease future maintenance in Debian stable. Now though it's likely too late for that, as a new Qt could push back the schedule in case existing software breaks due to it. Cheers, Matthias -- I welcome VSRE emails. See http://vsre.info/
Re: Qt 5.12 LTS in Buster
Hello, On 1/26/19 3:59 AM, Anatoliy Golubev wrote: > Hello! > Is there any chance to see Qt 5.12 LST in Buster? Unfortunately the transition freeze came too soon, we'll have to ship with 5.11. Sorry, and thanks for using Debian. -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@debian.org tsimonq2 on freenode and OFTC 5C7A BEA2 0F86 3045 9CC8 C8B5 E27F 2CF8 458C 2FA4 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
