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Bug#1035383: unblock (pre-approval): brial/1.2.11-2.1

2023-05-08 Thread Paul Gevers

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Hi,

[I was hoping another Release Team member would shim in, but alas. 
Please read till the end.]


On 02-05-2023 16:11, plugwash wrote:

Elbrus replied to my bug report, challangeing why I had filed it as rc, I
explained my position and he seemed somewhat but not totally convinced.


Although I agree with you on the normal approach, I explicitly note here 
that this source builds *multiple* arch specific binaries and only one 
fails to install on several architectures where it builds fine. Manually 
maintaining a list of architectures is a PITA.



I would like to ask for a release team ruling on this bug. If the release agree
it is rc and should be fixed, I am happy to make an upload doing so. On the
other hand if the release team decide that it is not rc and should not be fixed
at this stage in the release process I'm happy to abide by that descision.


I think we have a way forward, because it's claimed that the binary 
python3-brial should be removed in the not too distant future, so this 
architecture hard-coding is a temporary solution. (However, there are 
two reverse dependencies of the package, so that will need to be solved 
in trixie). Having said that, I want to hear other opinions for the 
general case.


Paul


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Bug#1035383: unblock (pre-approval): brial/1.2.11-2.1

2023-05-02 Thread plugwash
Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: unblock

It was discovered about a month ago by Bastian Germann that python3-brial needs
python3-sage, and he added a dependency.

Unfortunately this left the package uninstallable on about half of release
architectures. Normally this would block migration to testing, but elbrus
forced the package in.

I filed a bug 1034443 with grave severity for this based on the following
understanding.

* An uninstallable package is unusable
* The "is this package unusable" criteria is applied to each binary package
  individually and for packages that are built seperately for multiple
  architectures is applied on each arhictecture individually. Or to put it
  another way my understanding the criteria is applied to each "deb"
  individually.

I don't think these are explicitly stated anywhere, but they are consistent
with my experiance of how things are typically done in Debian. They are
consistent with the state of testing (other than python3-brial there are no
uninstallable arch-specific binary packages in testing) and they are consistent
with the rules britney normally enforces for testing migration.

Elbrus replied to my bug report, challangeing why I had filed it as rc, I
explained my position and he seemed somewhat but not totally convinced.

I would like to ask for a release team ruling on this bug. If the release agree
it is rc and should be fixed, I am happy to make an upload doing so. On the
other hand if the release team decide that it is not rc and should not be fixed
at this stage in the release process I'm happy to abide by that descision.

The debdiff for my proposed upload can be found at 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=2;bug=1034443;filename=brial.debdiff;msg=40

unblock brial/1.2.11-2.1