Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2018-07-12 at 01:41 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Adam D. Barratt  (2018-07-11):
> > All of the builds were accepted in time for the 13:52 dinstall, so
> > everything should be in place for the dini upload.
> 
> Right, I had seen the successful builds earlier but dinstall was
> missing
> still; I've verified the build goes fine, included the patches for
> #902226, opened #903618 to keep track we could be even better there,
> and
> proceeded to a source upload.
> 

Thanks, flagged for acceptance.

Cheers,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-11 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Adam D. Barratt  (2018-07-11):
> All of the builds were accepted in time for the 13:52 dinstall, so
> everything should be in place for the dini upload.

Right, I had seen the successful builds earlier but dinstall was missing
still; I've verified the build goes fine, included the patches for
#902226, opened #903618 to keep track we could be even better there, and
proceeded to a source upload.

Please let me know if there's anything else I can help you with.


Cheers,
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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-11 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 06:52 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> If that upload gets accepted and built during the day, I can
> > probably take care of dini this evening.
> 
> Thanks; flagged for acceptance.

All of the builds were accepted in time for the 13:52 dinstall, so
everything should be in place for the dini upload.

Cheers,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi,

On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 06:11 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> In the end I've been out longer than I thought I would, so I only
> managed to give it a go during the night. Being bugged by the
> perspective of only build-testing d-i before the upload, I've gone
> ahead with the whole “hack an archive” game, and it looks like test
> cases like plain disk, encrypted LVM, plain disk with XFS don't
> regress. Those usually let us (dis)cover kernel-related fun, so I
> guess green lights means we can merge this kernel
> ABI bump without too many second thoughts.

Great, thanks.

> If that upload gets accepted and built during the day, I can probably
> take care of dini this evening.

Thanks; flagged for acceptance.

Regards,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-10 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi,

Adam D. Barratt  (2018-07-10):
> On Tue, 2018-07-10 at 02:36 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > I'm not sure I'll be able to run tests (with a hacked archive due to
> > the udebs being in s-p-u) before late evenings of Tuesday or
> > Wednesday.
> > Should I upload right away, so that we can build d-i and d-i-n-i
> > first, and eventually not include them for the point release if
> > subsequent tests show regressions?
> > 
> > That would get builds out of your way, while leaving us an
> > opportunity to abort their inclusion if regressions are detected?
> 
> Sure, that seems like a reasonable plan to me; thanks.

In the end I've been out longer than I thought I would, so I only managed
to give it a go during the night. Being bugged by the perspective of only
build-testing d-i before the upload, I've gone ahead with the whole “hack
an archive” game, and it looks like test cases like plain disk, encrypted
LVM, plain disk with XFS don't regress. Those usually let us (dis)cover
kernel-related fun, so I guess green lights means we can merge this kernel
ABI bump without too many second thoughts.

If that upload gets accepted and built during the day, I can probably take
care of dini this evening.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-09 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi,

On Tue, 2018-07-10 at 02:36 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
> Adam D. Barratt  (2018-07-08):
> > As with 8.11, there's been a kernel ABI bump for stretch since 9.4,
> > so
> > we'll need a source d-i upload in order to accommodate that.
> > 
> > All of the expected uploads that are relevant for d-i are already
> > in
> > place, so please feel free to upload at a convenient time. Please
> > let
> > us know if there's anything we can do to assist.
> 
> I'm not sure I'll be able to run tests (with a hacked archive due to
> the udebs being in s-p-u) before late evenings of Tuesday or
> Wednesday.
> Should I upload right away, so that we can build d-i and d-i-n-i
> first, and eventually not include them for the point release if
> subsequent tests show regressions?
> 
> That would get builds out of your way, while leaving us an
> opportunity to abort their inclusion if regressions are detected?

Sure, that seems like a reasonable plan to me; thanks.

Regards,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-09 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Adam,

Adam D. Barratt  (2018-07-08):
> As with 8.11, there's been a kernel ABI bump for stretch since 9.4, so
> we'll need a source d-i upload in order to accommodate that.
> 
> All of the expected uploads that are relevant for d-i are already in
> place, so please feel free to upload at a convenient time. Please let
> us know if there's anything we can do to assist.

I'm not sure I'll be able to run tests (with a hacked archive due to the
udebs being in s-p-u) before late evenings of Tuesday or Wednesday.
Should I upload right away, so that we can build d-i and d-i-n-i first,
and eventually not include them for the point release if subsequent
tests show regressions?

That would get builds out of your way, while leaving us an opportunity
to abort their inclusion if regressions are detected?


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-07-08 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2018-06-27 at 20:16 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> [Sorry, this got stuck in drafts]
> 
> On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 22:06 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Adam D. Barratt  (2018-06-25):
> > > After some discussion on IRC, we've decided to go with the 14th
> > > and
> > > look at making the press side more handleable for that date.
> > 
> > So freezing on the 7st as customary?
> 
> Yep.

As with 8.11, there's been a kernel ABI bump for stretch since 9.4, so
we'll need a source d-i upload in order to accommodate that.

All of the expected uploads that are relevant for d-i are already in
place, so please feel free to upload at a convenient time. Please let
us know if there's anything we can do to assist.

Thanks,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-27 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2018-06-27 at 23:00 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Adam D. Barratt  (2018-06-27):
> > On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 22:06 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > > Not that I have big plans right now, except maybe working on the
> > > dini ftbfs within stretch (once the point release has happened),
> > > see
> > > #902226.
> > 
> > Hmmm. While I can appreciate the sentiment, not being able to
> > update
> > dini until after a point release seems a little pointless tbh.
> 
> Hmmm? The plan is to support building dini from spu if d-i is (still)
> there (during point release preparation) as customary, along with
> allowing a fall back to fetching d-i from the stable suite if the
> initial download from s-p-u fails (which happens once the point
> release has finished).

Ah, OK, thanks.

That wasn't at all clear to me from reading the referenced bug log, but
that's probably just me.

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-27 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Adam D. Barratt  (2018-06-27):
> On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 22:06 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Not that I have big plans right now, except maybe working on the
> > dini ftbfs within stretch (once the point release has happened), see
> > #902226.
> 
> Hmmm. While I can appreciate the sentiment, not being able to update
> dini until after a point release seems a little pointless tbh.

Hmmm? The plan is to support building dini from spu if d-i is (still)
there (during point release preparation) as customary, along with
allowing a fall back to fetching d-i from the stable suite if the
initial download from s-p-u fails (which happens once the point release
has finished).

IOW: Supporting rebuilding dini from stable after a point release in
addition to (and not instead of) building it from s-p-u only.

Hopefully clearer than my initial mail, but please yell if it isn't.


Cheers,
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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-27 Thread Adam D. Barratt
[Sorry, this got stuck in drafts]

On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 22:06 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Adam D. Barratt  (2018-06-25):
> > After some discussion on IRC, we've decided to go with the 14th and
> > look at making the press side more handleable for that date.
> 
> So freezing on the 7st as customary?

Yep.

> Not that I have big plans right now, except maybe working on the dini
> ftbfs within stretch (once the point release has happened), see
> #902226.

Hmmm. While I can appreciate the sentiment, not being able to update
dini until after a point release seems a little pointless tbh.

Cheers,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-25 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Adam D. Barratt  (2018-06-25):
> After some discussion on IRC, we've decided to go with the 14th and
> look at making the press side more handleable for that date.

So freezing on the 7st as customary?

Not that I have big plans right now, except maybe working on the dini
ftbfs within stretch (once the point release has happened), see #902226.


Cheers,
-- 
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D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-25 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 18:00 +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
> 
> El 12 de junio de 2018 13:44:52 CEST, "Adam D. Barratt"  rratt.org.uk> escribió:
[...]
> > - July 7th
> 
> This we (publicity) can, and prefer it.
> 
> > - July 14th
> 
> This, could be possible, but only one of us is available.

After some discussion on IRC, we've decided to go with the 14th and
look at making the press side more handleable for that date.

Regards,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-25 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

On Sat, 2018-06-23 at 17:30 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 12:44 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> [...]
> > Given all of the above, I think the sanest option is to concentrate
> > on getting 8.11 done and jessie off our radar and then get 9.5
> > sorted.
> > 
> > For suggested dates for 9.5, we know that June 30th is a no-go,
> > Debcamp starts on July 21st and then Debconf on the 28th. So that
> > leaves us with:
> > 
> > - July 7th
> > - July 14th
> > 
> > Are people available for either or both of those dates?
> 
> The 7th is looking like the favourite so far (although would mean
> freezing next weekend), but we still need an ftp-master (N)ACK on
> either / both date.

I still have time on either weekend.

Ansgar



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-24 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15077 March 1977, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
>> - July 7th
>> - July 14th
>> Are people available for either or both of those dates?
> The 7th is looking like the favourite so far (although would mean
> freezing next weekend), but we still need an ftp-master (N)ACK on
> either / both date.

No way for me for both, sorry.

-- 
bye, Joerg



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 12:44 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
[...]
> Given all of the above, I think the sanest option is to concentrate
> on getting 8.11 done and jessie off our radar and then get 9.5
> sorted.
> 
> For suggested dates for 9.5, we know that June 30th is a no-go,
> Debcamp starts on July 21st and then Debconf on the 28th. So that
> leaves us with:
> 
> - July 7th
> - July 14th
> 
> Are people available for either or both of those dates?

The 7th is looking like the favourite so far (although would mean
freezing next weekend), but we still need an ftp-master (N)ACK on
either / both date.

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Adam D. Barratt  (2018-06-12):
> Given all of the above, I think the sanest option is to concentrate on
> getting 8.11 done and jessie off our radar and then get 9.5 sorted.
> 
> For suggested dates for 9.5, we know that June 30th is a no-go, Debcamp
> starts on July 21st and then Debconf on the 28th. So that leaves us with:
> 
> - July 7th
> - July 14th
> 
> Are people available for either or both of those dates?

Will try hard to be available for the timing of your choosing.


Cheers,
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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-12 Thread Laura Arjona Reina



El 12 de junio de 2018 13:44:52 CEST, "Adam D. Barratt" 
 escribió:
>On 2018-06-08 18:51, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
>> [Cc += debian-kernel]
>> 
>> On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 12:04 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>>> On 15037 March 1977, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>[...]
>> We're past any of the above by now, and while looking through the
>to-do
>> list for the final jessie point release, I noticed that we currently
>> have some packages in opu with versions higher than stable.
>> 
>> We can either accept the packages and put up with the situation for a
>> short while, or do 9.5 before 8.11. In practical terms, that would
>> likely mean both 9.5 and 8.11 on June 23rd, freezing both next
>weekend.
>> How do people feel about that?
>
>After discussions on IRC, it appears unlikely that the currently WIP 
>kernel update will be ready in sufficient time to be happy with it on 
>all architectures.
>
>So the possible options are:
>
>- go ahead with freezing 9.5 this weekend, and hope the kernel's ready 
>in time
>- go ahead with freezing 9.5 this weekend, and update the kernel via 
>stable-updates later
>- just do 8.11 this weekend, accept the version skew and get 9.5 
>released as soon as we can
>
>To be entirely honest, I'm not that comfortable with announcing a
>freeze 
>this close to the actual date. In terms of packages with version skew, 
>we have:
>
>- packages from the security archive, where users upgrading should 
>already have the jessie-security package installed in any case
>- intel-microcode, src:patch and clamav, where it looks like the jessie
>
>package should work on stretch without issues
>- tzdata, which is already available from stretch-updates.
>
>Given all of the above, I think the sanest option is to concentrate on 
>getting 8.11 done and jessie off our radar and then get 9.5 sorted.
>
>For suggested dates for 9.5, we know that June 30th is a no-go, Debcamp
>
>starts on July 21st and then Debconf on the 28th. So that leaves us 
>with:
>
>- July 7th

This we (publicity) can, and prefer it.

>- July 14th

This, could be possible, but only one of us is available.

Cheers
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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:44:52PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
>On 2018-06-08 18:51, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
>
>Given all of the above, I think the sanest option is to concentrate on
>getting 8.11 done and jessie off our radar and then get 9.5 sorted.
>
>For suggested dates for 9.5, we know that June 30th is a no-go, Debcamp
>starts on July 21st and then Debconf on the 28th. So that leaves us with:
>
>- July 7th
>- July 14th
>
>Are people available for either or both of those dates?

Both look good for me, yup.

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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 2018-06-08 18:51, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

[Cc += debian-kernel]

On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 12:04 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:

On 15037 March 1977, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:

[...]

We're past any of the above by now, and while looking through the to-do
list for the final jessie point release, I noticed that we currently
have some packages in opu with versions higher than stable.

We can either accept the packages and put up with the situation for a
short while, or do 9.5 before 8.11. In practical terms, that would
likely mean both 9.5 and 8.11 on June 23rd, freezing both next weekend.
How do people feel about that?


After discussions on IRC, it appears unlikely that the currently WIP 
kernel update will be ready in sufficient time to be happy with it on 
all architectures.


So the possible options are:

- go ahead with freezing 9.5 this weekend, and hope the kernel's ready 
in time
- go ahead with freezing 9.5 this weekend, and update the kernel via 
stable-updates later
- just do 8.11 this weekend, accept the version skew and get 9.5 
released as soon as we can


To be entirely honest, I'm not that comfortable with announcing a freeze 
this close to the actual date. In terms of packages with version skew, 
we have:


- packages from the security archive, where users upgrading should 
already have the jessie-security package installed in any case
- intel-microcode, src:patch and clamav, where it looks like the jessie 
package should work on stretch without issues

- tzdata, which is already available from stretch-updates.

Given all of the above, I think the sanest option is to concentrate on 
getting 8.11 done and jessie off our radar and then get 9.5 sorted.


For suggested dates for 9.5, we know that June 30th is a no-go, Debcamp 
starts on July 21st and then Debconf on the 28th. So that leaves us 
with:


- July 7th
- July 14th

Are people available for either or both of those dates?

Regards,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt

-kernel: any chance of a yes/no ASAP, please?

On 2018-06-08 18:51, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

[Cc += debian-kernel]

On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 12:04 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:

On 15037 March 1977, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a
> big
>  ask)

No.

>  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)

Possible.

>  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that
> can't be
>    helped)

Possible.


We're past any of the above by now, and while looking through the to-do
list for the final jessie point release, I noticed that we currently
have some packages in opu with versions higher than stable.

We can either accept the packages and put up with the situation for a
short while, or do 9.5 before 8.11. In practical terms, that would
likely mean both 9.5 and 8.11 on June 23rd, freezing both next weekend.
How do people feel about that?


Unless we can get a definite answer r.e. the kernel very quickly, we 
might have to live with the version skew for a short while and arrange 
alternate dates for 9.5, which would then be in July (as the 30th won't 
work for either Sledge or I, at least), which would be well past our 
2-month goal.


Regards,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-11 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 18:51 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> We can either accept the packages and put up with the situation for a
> short while, or do 9.5 before 8.11. In practical terms, that would
> likely mean both 9.5 and 8.11 on June 23rd, freezing both next
> weekend.

Should be fine with me; Joerg wanted to do the 8.11 one, but if he has
time restrictions on June 23rd and doing 8.11 after 9.5 would be too
late for him, I could probably also do both.

(If Joerg wants to do both, that's also fine with me.)

Ansgar



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-08 Thread Laura Arjona Reina



El 8 de junio de 2018 19:51:18 CEST, "Adam D. Barratt" 
 escribió:
>[Cc += debian-kernel]
>
>On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 12:04 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> On 15037 March 1977, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>> >  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a
>> > big
>> >  ask)
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> >  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
>> 
>> Possible.
>> 
>> >  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that
>> > can't be
>> >    helped)
>> 
>> Possible.
>
>We're past any of the above by now, and while looking through the to-do
>
>list for the final jessie point release, I noticed that we currently
>have some packages in opu with versions higher than stable.
>
>We can either accept the packages and put up with the situation for a
>short while, or do 9.5 before 8.11. In practical terms, that would
>likely mean both 9.5 and 8.11 on June 23rd, freezing both next weekend.
>How do people feel about that?
>

Ok for publicity.

Cheers

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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 06:51:18PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
>[Cc += debian-kernel]
>
>On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 12:04 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> On 15037 March 1977, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>> >  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a
>> > big
>> >  ask)
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> >  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
>> 
>> Possible.
>> 
>> >  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that
>> > can't be
>> >    helped)
>> 
>> Possible.
>
>We're past any of the above by now, and while looking through the to-do 
>list for the final jessie point release, I noticed that we currently
>have some packages in opu with versions higher than stable.
>
>We can either accept the packages and put up with the situation for a
>short while, or do 9.5 before 8.11. In practical terms, that would
>likely mean both 9.5 and 8.11 on June 23rd, freezing both next weekend.
>How do people feel about that?

That works ok for me.

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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-08 Thread Adam D. Barratt
[Cc += debian-kernel]

On Sun, 2018-05-20 at 12:04 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15037 March 1977, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> >  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a
> > big
> >  ask)
> 
> No.
> 
> >  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
> 
> Possible.
> 
> >  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that
> > can't be
> >    helped)
> 
> Possible.

We're past any of the above by now, and while looking through the to-do 
list for the final jessie point release, I noticed that we currently
have some packages in opu with versions higher than stable.

We can either accept the packages and put up with the situation for a
short while, or do 9.5 before 8.11. In practical terms, that would
likely mean both 9.5 and 8.11 on June 23rd, freezing both next weekend.
How do people feel about that?

Cheers,

Adam



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-05 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Tue, 2018-06-05 at 15:44 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Context: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/merge_requests/30
> 
> Many thanks for the heads-up. I'll be on the lookout for a possible
> late ABI bump then. Feel free to poke me when that gets accepted into
> p-u so that I can adjust our git branch and perform a few build and
> runtime tests.

This is now up to 4.9.106 and there will definitely be an ABI break. I missed
the thread start (I'm not subscribed to -release anymore), but in the quoted
text I can see there were three proposed dates for the 9.5 point release. May
26th and June 2nd are out of the equation now but is June 9th already
targeted?

If so, we really need to move forward on this (and it might be a bit late
already) if we want to make sure it builds everywhere.

Regards,
- -- 
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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Salvatore,

Salvatore Bonaccorso  (2018-06-05):
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:49:46PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > I don't think we have any pending ABI bump for linux (this time), and
> > the stretch branch in debian-installer.git seems quiet, so binNMUing d-i
> > might be sufficient. I might have missed pu requests for d-i components
> > though, but hopefully debian-boot@ will correct me if I'm wrong on this.
> 
> Adding Kernel team list explicitly to the loop only for this later
> part, dropping other recipients which might not be interested for this
> reply specifically.
> 
> Currently we are cherry-picking secrutiy fixes in our
> stretch-security branch. In parallel there is work on the stretch
> branch to update to a newer 4.9.x stable release and to have it
> included in the next point release. Now if the later turns out to be
> the case earlier than any DSA, then there will actually likely be a
> ABI bump for the kernel (the update will be at least up to 4.9.102 and
> there are too many ABI changes as they would be possible to avoid).
> 
> Context: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/merge_requests/30

Many thanks for the heads-up. I'll be on the lookout for a possible
late ABI bump then. Feel free to poke me when that gets accepted into
p-u so that I can adjust our git branch and perform a few build and
runtime tests.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-06-05 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi Cyril,

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:49:46PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Heya,
> 
> Jonathan Wiltshire  (2018-05-14):
> > We're due a point release any day now. Please indicate your
> > availablility out of:
> > 
> >  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a big
> >ask)
> >  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
> >  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that can't
> >be helped)
> 
> I'm fine with any pick.
> 
> I don't think we have any pending ABI bump for linux (this time), and
> the stretch branch in debian-installer.git seems quiet, so binNMUing d-i
> might be sufficient. I might have missed pu requests for d-i components
> though, but hopefully debian-boot@ will correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Adding Kernel team list explicitly to the loop only for this later
part, dropping other recipients which might not be interested for this
reply specifically.

Currently we are cherry-picking secrutiy fixes in our
stretch-security branch. In parallel there is work on the stretch
branch to update to a newer 4.9.x stable release and to have it
included in the next point release. Now if the later turns out to be
the case earlier than any DSA, then there will actually likely be a
ABI bump for the kernel (the update will be at least up to 4.9.102 and
there are too many ABI changes as they would be possible to avoid).

Context: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/merge_requests/30

Regards,
Salvatore



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-05-20 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15037 March 1977, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a big
>  ask)

No.

>  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)

Possible.

>  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that can't be
>helped)

Possible.

-- 
bye, Joerg



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-05-18 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
Hello
Sorry for the delay in answering

El 14/05/18 a las 19:19, Jonathan Wiltshire escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> We're due a point release any day now. Please indicate your availablility
> out of:
> 
>  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a big ask)
>  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
>  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that can't be
>helped)

We (publicity) are available any of the above weekends.

Thanks
-- 
Laura Arjona Reina
https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-05-15 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Heya,

Jonathan Wiltshire  (2018-05-14):
> We're due a point release any day now. Please indicate your
> availablility out of:
> 
>  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a big
>ask)
>  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
>  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that can't
>be helped)

I'm fine with any pick.

I don't think we have any pending ABI bump for linux (this time), and
the stretch branch in debian-installer.git seems quiet, so binNMUing d-i
might be sufficient. I might have missed pu requests for d-i components
though, but hopefully debian-boot@ will correct me if I'm wrong on this.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-05-14 Thread Mark Hymers
On Mon, 14, May, 2018 at 06:19:00PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire spoke thus..
> Hi,
> 
> We're due a point release any day now. Please indicate your availablility
> out of:
> 
>  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a big ask)
>  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
>  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that can't be
>helped)

If I'm needed as an ftp-person again, I can do any of the above.

Mark

-- 
Mark Hymers 

 Ganneff: I'm confident in your ability to create a flamewar.
 Extremedura QA/i18n meeting 2008



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-05-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 06:19:00PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We're due a point release any day now. Please indicate your availablility
>out of:
>
> - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a big ask)

Awkward, but doable.

> - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)

Works for me.

> - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that can't be
>   helped)

Nope, away on VAC.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have
 nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free
 speech because you have nothing to say."
   -- Edward Snowden



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-05-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt
and now without the typo in KiBi's address *sigh*

On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 20:55 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> [CC += KiBi]
> 
> On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 18:19 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > We're due a point release any day now. Please indicate your
> > availablility
> > out of:
> > 
> >  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a
> > big
> > ask)
> >  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
> >  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that
> > can't
> > be helped)
> 
> I'm away this coming Saturday, and between May 26th and June 3rd. I
> could manage a point release on the 9th, but will not be available to
> help with reviews / uploads during the week before freeze (which
> would
> be the weekend of the 2nd/3rd).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 



Re: Scheduling 9.5

2018-05-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt
[CC += KiBi]

On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 18:19 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> We're due a point release any day now. Please indicate your
> availablility
> out of:
> 
>  - May 26th (meaning freeze this coming weekend, which might be a big
> ask)
>  - Jun 2nd (which may require an unusual SRM)
>  - Jun 9th (getting quite a way out of cadence, but maybe that can't
> be helped)

I'm away this coming Saturday, and between May 26th and June 3rd. I
could manage a point release on the 9th, but will not be available to
help with reviews / uploads during the week before freeze (which would
be the weekend of the 2nd/3rd).

Regards,

Adam