Re: tasks files maintence (Re: RFS: graph isomorphism)

2009-09-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 09:27:49PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:05:17AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > 
> > I think that ACLs can also handle multi-project write access, since it knows
> > them as groups:
> > 
> > ple...@alioth:~$ getfacl debian-med
> > # file: debian-med
> > # owner: scm-gforge
> > # group: debian-med
> > user::rwx
> > group::rwx
> > other::r-x
> > 
> > I never used ACLs before, so I do not know if it would require the 
> > intervention
> > of an Alioth admin or not???
> 
> I would really welcome if somebody would care for this.  It would be a
> quite reasonable solution. 

Hi all,

I figured out that only Alioth admins can modify the repository ACLs. Now the
Blends repository is writable for debian-med. As announced on the debian-blends
mailing list, just let me know if you would like that the members of the
debian-science Alioth project also get write access to the Blends subversion
repository. This would enable each debian-science member to do ‘debcheckout -a
debian-science’ and modify the task files.

Have a nice day,

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Re: tasks files maintence (Re: RFS: graph isomorphism)

2009-09-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:05:17AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> 
> I think that ACLs can also handle multi-project write access, since it knows
> them as groups:
> 
> ple...@alioth:~$ getfacl debian-med
> # file: debian-med
> # owner: scm-gforge
> # group: debian-med
> user::rwx
> group::rwx
> other::r-x
> 
> I never used ACLs before, so I do not know if it would require the 
> intervention
> of an Alioth admin or not???

I would really welcome if somebody would care for this.  It would be a
quite reasonable solution. 

Kind regards

 Andreas.

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Re: tasks files maintence (Re: RFS: graph isomorphism)

2009-09-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:37:31AM -0300, David Bremner wrote:
> On a related topic it would be nice if there was some semi-automatic
> way to smooth the flow of ITPs into the tasks files.  Perhaps
> something along the lines of the Package Entropy Tracker watching the
> git repos.  Perhaps something useful will come out of the pkg-perl
> teams investigations of git.

I perfectly agree here and IMHO the apropriate way would be the
following:

  1. Move information of WNPP bugs into UDD
  2. Put WNPP number into tasks file (instead of copying
 the WNPP info into tasks file
  3. Render information from UDD on the tasks pages

The problem is 1. because it depends from the quality of the bug reports
to get really structured information.  In principle the reportbug
template is structured enough to enable automatic parsing - but
reporters are sometimes not strict enough to follow the template.

The procedure is one of my long term goals - I would not mind if
somebody might tackle item 1. - the other items are really cheap
to implement.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

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Re: tasks files maintence (Re: RFS: graph isomorphism)

2009-08-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:04:11PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:37:31AM -0300, David Bremner wrote:
>  
> > Or maybe there is some alioth magic that could make all debian-science
> > members automatic members of blends.
> 
> I don't think that there is such a magic.  IMHO the only chance is
> to open it for all alioth members.  I would not have real problems
> with this approach because I'm reading the commit list - but for the
> moment there was not much need to do so.

Hi Andreas,

I think that ACLs can also handle multi-project write access, since it knows
them as groups:

ple...@alioth:~$ getfacl debian-med
# file: debian-med
# owner: scm-gforge
# group: debian-med
user::rwx
group::rwx
other::r-x

I never used ACLs before, so I do not know if it would require the intervention
of an Alioth admin or not…

Have a nice day,

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Debian Med packaging team,
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
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Re: tasks files maintence (Re: RFS: graph isomorphism)

2009-08-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:37:31AM -0300, David Bremner wrote:
> For me, joining the blends group is fine.

bremner-guest added to Blends project.

> But in the long run I think
> moving into debian-science svn would make it more a natural part of
> the team workflow, rather than something you have to manage/encourage
> by asking about what task a given new package goes in.

Well, if it's only the workflos SVN knows external resources.  These
are used to put debian-edu and debian-gis source into the blends
repository and in turn we might be able to do this in the Debian
Science project as well (but I guess proper permissions are needed).
I agree that its debatable where to keep the original source for
the tasks file - but up to now nobody insisted on moving it and
I'm not heavily motivated to change a running system.
 
> Or maybe there is some alioth magic that could make all debian-science
> members automatic members of blends.

I don't think that there is such a magic.  IMHO the only chance is
to open it for all alioth members.  I would not have real problems
with this approach because I'm reading the commit list - but for the
moment there was not much need to do so.

> Would that be desirable from a
> blends point of view delegate adding users like that? It doesn't
> matter so much where the svn is I guess, I'm mainly thinking the extra
> adminstrative hoop.

Considering the number of really interested people it was easily
maintainable.
 
> On a related topic it would be nice if there was some semi-automatic
> way to smooth the flow of ITPs into the tasks files.

This would actually be a nice thing, but I have no idea how to
approach this.  Currently I'm watching ITPs as far as my time
permits and just copy the information which is not that hard
if proper ITPs are filed.

> Perhaps
> something along the lines of the Package Entropy Tracker watching the
> git repos.  Perhaps something useful will come out of the pkg-perl
> teams investigations of git.

Well, one slight chance I see is that ITPs might be moved in a
structured way to UDD and we just pick by bug number.  But that's
a lot of work for only one use case (I do not see much other use
for this information in UDD) and does not seem to be worth the
effort.
 
Kind regards

   Andreas. 

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tasks files maintence (Re: RFS: graph isomorphism)

2009-08-06 Thread David Bremner
Andreas Tille wrote:

>On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 08:12:09AM -0300, David Bremner wrote:

>Currently it is organised that way that you have to be a member of
>Blends team on alioth.  There is no explicite need for this and it
>might also go into the debian-science SVN (but it has to be SVN for
>the moment).  I feel a bit lazy about moving from the blends repository
>and would rather like to add people to this group - but if you think
>that's an extra burden just ask me to move.  Debian Edu and Debian GIS
>have their tasks files in their SVN repositories - all other Blends
>source packages are in the blends group. 

For me, joining the blends group is fine. But in the long run I think
moving into debian-science svn would make it more a natural part of
the team workflow, rather than something you have to manage/encourage
by asking about what task a given new package goes in.

Or maybe there is some alioth magic that could make all debian-science
members automatic members of blends.  Would that be desirable from a
blends point of view delegate adding users like that? It doesn't
matter so much where the svn is I guess, I'm mainly thinking the extra
adminstrative hoop.

On a related topic it would be nice if there was some semi-automatic
way to smooth the flow of ITPs into the tasks files.  Perhaps
something along the lines of the Package Entropy Tracker watching the
git repos.  Perhaps something useful will come out of the pkg-perl
teams investigations of git.

All the best,

David


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