Re: uugetty?
On Sat, 4 May 1996, Fundamental wrote: what package does uugetty come with? uugetty is part of getty-ps which is not (yet?) available as a debian-package. I use version getty_ps-2.0.7h and had to fix some pieces to comply with the FSSTND. Makefile: 11c11 FSSTND=-DFSSTND --- # FSSTND=-DFSSTND config.h: 49,51d48 #ifdef FSSTND #define UUCPID 10 /* uid of UUCP account (FSSTND) */ #else 53,56d49 #endif #ifdef FSSTND #define LOCK /var/lock/LCK..%s/* lock file name (FSSTND) */ #else 58d50 #endif It's me, Manolo!
Re: 1.3.97 and flock errors
bash-1.14-4.deb diff-2.7-10.deb findutils-4.1-9.deb mount-2.5i-1.deb sh-utils-1.12-5.deb timezone-7.48-1.deb Bash seem to be the most likely candidate for producing the errors, but I'm not sure. On my old (non debian) a.out System only crond and smail produce the broken flock messages. The above tools dont do file-locking AFAIK. You can look at the PID, probably you can recognize the offending process? Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],ka.sub.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +4972573817 *plush* (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy
/etc/papersize?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (joost witteveen) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 15:03:45 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org [...] /usr/bin/gs reads /etc/papersize, possibly adds the correct papersize to the argumentlist, and then executes /usr/bin/gs-papersize. I do not have an /etc/papersize and I do not find it in unstable/Contents nor in /var/lib/dpkg/info/* (neither in a package file list nor in an installation script). It seems a pity to have gone to the trouble of supporting /etc/papersize if it never gets created. Perhaps I am missing it because I am running 0.93B4 upgraded to 1.1? Does latex/dvips support /etc/papersize? What is the default papersize? Matt Birkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key ID = 74305425 Key Fingerprint = B3 34 FB 3E 3C FE E8 57 AA B4 B2 95 A7 C0 1E AF
/etc/papersize?
Matt Birkholz said: I do not have an /etc/papersize and I do not find it in unstable/Contents nor in /var/lib/dpkg/info/* (neither in a package file list nor in an installation script). It seems a pity to have gone to the trouble of supporting /etc/papersize if it never gets created. Perhaps I am missing it because I am running 0.93B4 upgraded to 1.1? I am running a 1.1 distribution that I made on a clean disk. I have most of the Debian packages loaded onto this system. The only packages that I found which created or checked for /etc/papersize are tgif and a2gs. Does latex/dvips support /etc/papersize? What is the default papersize? No, I don't think latex/dvips support /etc/papersize. At least, I find myself having to go in and edit files like config.ps, etc. Cheers, Susan Kleinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smail ignores visible_name and from_field config settings
I have a home machine on which I would like to send mail to local users as well as the Internet (when a PPP link is up). I used to do this by telling smailconfig that I am an Internet site with visible name primenet.com (my Internet Service Provider's domainname). This produced from fields like localuser@primenet.com, which is great for me ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is my account with my ISP) but not so hot for my wife ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is not an actual account) or for root ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is not the right account). I fixed this by adding from_field=From: Matt Birkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the end of /etc/smail/config. After upgrading to Debian 1.1beta (smail 3.1.29.1-22), this arrangement does not work. The from_field setting seems to be ignored. All of my mail is From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dagobah being my local hostname). Am I the only person who was / is trying to do this? Has anyone succeeded? Matt Birkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key ID = 74305425 Key Fingerprint = B3 34 FB 3E 3C FE E8 57 AA B4 B2 95 A7 C0 1E AF
getty blocks dialout. mgetty just plain loopy.
I am trying to set up a modem for both dialin and dialout use. I have been unable to do this with either getty or mgetty. If I run getty -h -w 38400 ttyS1, I cannot dialout. Kermit says Sorry, can't open connection: /dev/cua1: Device or resource busy If PPP is up when I start the getty (i.e. telinit Q after editing /etc/inittab), I get May 6 18:38:53 dagobah /sbin/getty[2201]: /dev/ttyS1: cannot open as standard input: Device or resource busy May 6 18:39:03 dagobah /sbin/getty[2202]: /dev/ttyS1: cannot open as standard input: Device or resource busy ... If I run mgetty -b -r ttyS1, dialins produce May 5 02:51:12 dagobah mgetty[188]: tcsetattr failed: I/O error May 5 02:51:12 dagobah mgetty[188]: cannot turn off soft carrier: I/O error May 5 02:51:12 dagobah mgetty[188]: tcgetattr failed: I/O error May 5 02:51:12 dagobah mgetty[188]: cannot get TIO: I/O error I am really wishing I had not upgraded... Matt Birkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key ID = 74305425 Key Fingerprint = B3 34 FB 3E 3C FE E8 57 AA B4 B2 95 A7 C0 1E AF
Supra 288i Sp Modem
Hello, Has anybody had any experience with the supra 288i Sp internal Speakderphone Modem. This modem comes stock with most microns and is plug and play. I have used the following line in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial: setserial -vb /dev/cua2 irq 5 port 0x03e8 uart 16550A if, after bootup, I do a setserial /dev/cua2, it feeds those params back as if everything is ok. Minicom, however, does not see the modem. Good ol' atdt does nothing. The modem uses non-standard IRQ and baseaddresses. The values are reported by WIN95 (from which the modem works just fine, BTW). Any help is appreciated. Troy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Australian mirrors
Most information on Debian mirrors lists three sites in Australia. For example, If you're looking for another Australian-specific Debian GNU/Linux mirror site then here is a list of all the official ones: ftp.tower.net.au /pub/linux/debian (Tower Networking P/L - Perth) ftp.it.com.au /mirrors/linux/debian (Informed Technology - Perth) ftp.usyd.edu.au/linux/debian (Sydney University - Sydney) The tower.net.au site is pretty much up-to-date but connections to it can become rather slow. Same goes for the it.com.au site. I expect the problem is saturation of the circuits to Perth. For me the usyd.edu.au site usually provides much faster response but it was last updated on Mar 9 - about 2 months ago. Are there any other official Debian mirrors in Australia? Is there anyone who can check if U. of Sydney's archive maintainer expects to update their mirror?
'unsupported packages' (was Re: uugetty?)
On Tue, 7 May 1996, Manfred Wassmann wrote: what package does uugetty come with? uugetty is part of getty-ps which is not (yet?) available as a debian-package. I use version getty_ps-2.0.7h and had to fix some pieces to comply with the FSSTND. Here's a suggestion: If you're going to go to the trouble of compiling a missing program for your system, it's only a few extra steps to add the debian control files. Then you can share your work with the rest of the debian user community. Doing this is fairly easy for most programs...large packages like base and libc are probably quite involved difficult but something small like getty_ps should be easy. There's an advantage in it for you too: You gain the ability to upgrade your custom-installed programs with dpkg, just like any other package. This really does make it worth the extra effort! This is why I released par tkdesk...they're tools I personally find useful, and I like the idea of managing ALL of my binaries with dpkg, so I debiated them...after that, it was no trouble at all to upload them to master.debian.org As an added bonus, you also get the satisfying feeling of putting something worthwhile back into debian! The only downside to this if you don't have much time is that you're then stuck with the responsibility for bug tracking for your package...unless you can find someone willing to take it off your hands. Maybe there should be an 'unsupported' directory for packages which have been released but don't have an active maintainer...or is this what 'contrib' is for? Also, allow any package in 'unsupported' can be adopted by anyone who takes the time to actively maintain it. Question for other developers: should the documentation for debian encourage this? Does the benefit of having lots of extra packages outweigh the disadvantage of having bug reports about unsupported packages? Craig
more mirror questions
Hi, perhpas somebody can help me. How do I tell mirror the Tiezone of the Remote Host? If I want to mirror master, ftp and a german site mirror alway compares different times. Any good solutions? Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],ka.sub.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +4972573817 *plush* (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy
Re: more mirror questions
Bernd Hi, perhpas somebody can help me. How do I tell mirror the Tiezone Bernd of the Remote Host? If I want to mirror master, ftp and a german Bernd site mirror alway compares different times. Any good solutions? That has been bugging me as well when I switched from ftp.debian.org to some other mirror during the hick-ups at ftp.debian.org. It would be really nice if we could store files dates in UTC (GMT) rather than in localtime. If we can't persuade mirror(1) (haven't checked man page or code), maybe someone could hack a script that touches files with the info from the debian/ls-laR file. Opinions? -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Re: base system: /dev/psmouse not supported by kernel?
On Mon, 6 May 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: base Date: 3 May 1996 X11 cannot find my PS/2 mouse. I assume that it should be /dev/psmouse but it appears to be misdefined. It is defined as character type 10, but 'cat /proc/devices' does not show a type 10 character device! Was this not compiled into the kernel (1.3.95) I picked up from the installation disks? I am now using my own 1.3.88 kernel Derek Lee I believe I am using /dev/ps2mouse. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey guys, I just heard something that really worries me... (wringing hands) What is the correct side of the bed to get up on?
Re: smail ignores visible_name and from_field config settings
On Mon, 6 May 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a home machine on which I would like to send mail to local users as well as the Internet (when a PPP link is up). I used to do this by telling smailconfig that I am an Internet site with visible name primenet.com (my Internet Service Provider's domainname). I use the visible name now, I have tried in the past to use 'psu.edu' as my domain (or some similar setting) and brando as the 'hostname'... Which was a mistake My ISP (Penn State Univ. PA, USA) started trying to route messages through my machine. Only a few, when the user misconfigured their mailer... The messages got stuck in a loop on my machine, and built up header info for a while till they died in transport. This produced from fields like localuser@primenet.com, which is great for me ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is my account with my ISP) but not so hot for my wife ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is not an actual account) or for root ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is not the right account). I fixed this by adding from_field=From: Matt Birkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the end of /etc/smail/config. After upgrading to Debian 1.1beta (smail 3.1.29.1-22), this arrangement does not work. The from_field setting seems to be ignored. All of my mail is From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dagobah being my local hostname). Am I the only person who was / is trying to do this? Has anyone succeeded? I think I'm set up this way, but I did not get the setup from anywhere, it does seem to work though. Matt Birkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key ID = 74305425 Key Fingerprint = B3 34 FB 3E 3C FE E8 57 AA B4 B2 95 A7 C0 1E AF My latest attempt to 'stabilize' stuff: I use a script to check my mail, an I just put code in to not download mail while 'pine' is up... Otherwise everyone (might) have their hands in the mailbag at once. I don't know if this is necessary. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey guys, I just heard something that really worries me... (wringing hands) What is the correct side of the bed to get up on?
Re: more mirror questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That has been bugging me as well when I switched from ftp.debian.org to some other mirror during the hick-ups at ftp.debian.org. It would be really nice if we could store files dates in UTC (GMT) rather than in localtime. If we can't persuade mirror(1) (haven't checked man page or code), maybe someone could hack a script that touches files with the info from the debian/ls-laR file. Opinions? I've been plagued by this too, and have lost all 455 megs a week ago because of careless and frustrated swapping of source archives without checking first. Lesson learnt, I now do a mirror -T first to sync the timestamps. # man mirror use_timelocal Time-stamp files to local time zone. If false, the time zone is set to offset 0 (compatible with older versions of mirror). [true] I've tried the above but haven't done enough consistant checking to peg down just how it works. I'd also be interested in any suggestions. I exclude debian-bugs and -lists and I notice that when mirror does the compares with a mirror -d -d that it takes quite a long time to go thru all the files in debian-lists... just to figure out to ignore them. Would the below option skip over any exclude_patt dirs altogether ? recurse_hard Have to generate remote ls by doing cwd and ls for each subdirectory. In this case remote_dir must be absolute (begin with a /) not relative. Use the pwd command in ftp to find the path for the start of the remote archive area. (Not available if remote_fs is vms.) [false] -- Mark Constable (+61 7 55275724) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vv.com.au/mc
Re: more mirror questions
On Mon, 6 May 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd Hi, perhpas somebody can help me. How do I tell mirror the Tiezone Bernd of the Remote Host? If I want to mirror master, ftp and a german Bernd site mirror alway compares different times. Any good solutions? That has been bugging me as well when I switched from ftp.debian.org to some other mirror during the hick-ups at ftp.debian.org. It would be really nice if we could store files dates in UTC (GMT) rather than in localtime. If we can't persuade mirror(1) (haven't checked man page or code), maybe someone could hack a script that touches files with the info from the debian/ls-laR file. Opinions? Over the last few days my mirror started retransferring everything again. I didn't bother to figure out why; I finally went and added the get_newer=false parameter to my setup. New files and files whose _sizes_ change still get transferred. I just hope that people stick to the rule never to update a file without incrementing the version number in the file name. ...RickM...
Re: Australian mirrors
At 11:38 AM 7/05/96 CST, you wrote: Most information on Debian mirrors lists three sites in Australia. For example, If you're looking for another Australian-specific Debian GNU/Linux mirror site then here is a list of all the official ones: ftp.tower.net.au /pub/linux/debian (Tower Networking P/L - Perth) ftp.it.com.au /mirrors/linux/debian (Informed Technology - Perth) ftp.usyd.edu.au/linux/debian (Sydney University - Sydney) The tower.net.au site is pretty much up-to-date but connections to it can become rather slow. Same goes for the it.com.au site. I expect the problem is saturation of the circuits to Perth. For me the usyd.edu.au site usually provides much faster response but it was last updated on Mar 9 - about 2 months ago. Are there any other official Debian mirrors in Australia? Is there anyone who can check if U. of Sydney's archive maintainer expects to update their mirror? Well, I dont know what's happened to ftp.usyd.edu.au and I dont know the administrator there but the reason why we're slow is actually because we've got a *lot* of people getting Debian from this site. In the US they say that the ftp server load dies before the link dies, well unfortunately here it's the other way around :-( We only have 2 ISDN-BRI b-channels (which is considered fast for Australia) and when we get over 10 people from Australia coming in our link is flooded (not forgetting that I have clients too). Maybe an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] might help? ...Karl -- Karl Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel: +61-9-455-3446 Fax: +61-9-455-2776 Network Manager, A/h: +61-9-480-5958 Tower Networking Pty Ltd (ACN: 072 322 760) | Internet Providers and | t/a STAR Online Services | Networking Solutions |
LaTeX (in-)compatibility
Hello.
Sorry for this off-topic topic. Thought, Debian
users might be interested in this also. Perhaps
someone has found a solution yet, other than
handtune many LaTeX-docs again or reuse the old
LaTeX-suite?
It seems to me that there has occured some important change in
LaTeX font generation (dvips + Metafont) as well as in vertical
spacing between version a) and version b) of LaTeX (see below).
Is this repairable? How could one make the system b) produce
the same output as system a)? The observed differences are:
1.) Version a) looks and feels the same as LaTeX2.09 before.
2.) Documents compiled with b) use more vertical space than a),
e. g. the same text is distributed on more pages. Most
annoying are hand-tuned pages from a). The command:
\setlength{\parskip}{1ex plus0.5ex minus0.2ex}
makes no difference.(??!)
3.) The ghostview-preview produced from b) is less readable than
that of b), given the same X11-terminal at resolution
1152x900, magstep 0. The b)-fonts look a micro bit smaller,
most horizontal bars in t or f are missing at that
resolution and the e is ugly as well. This point is the
most important one, for addresses the readability of
previews!!!
== a) ==
This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.0)
LaTeX2e 1993/12/24 PRELIMINARY TEST RELEASE
This is dvipsk 5.526a Copyright 1986, 1993 Radical Eye Software
(uses: /usr/TeX/lib/texmf/dvips/config.ps,
called with options: -D 300 -t a4 -Z for HP-laserjet)
Ghostscript 2.6.1 (5/28/93)
ghostview 1.5
== b) ==
This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1)
LaTeX2e 1995/06/01 patch level 3
This is dvipsk 5.58f Copyright 1986, 1994 Radical Eye Software
(uses: the same config.ps as above)
Ghostscript 2.6.1 (5/28/93)
ghostview 1.5
Thanks. Andreas.
--
Uni Wuppertal, FB Elektrotechnik, Tel/Fax: (0202) 439 - 3009
Andreas Wehler; email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Locale in 1.1?
Hello, I'd like to have some info about locale handling in Debian. The /usr/lib/locale directory has just an emty dir en_GB in it. I tried to set LANG to fr_FR or ISO-8859-1 (which Linux should support) but nvi still does not display diacritic characters (I had it display them on a Slackware with ISO-8859-1). How can I correct that? Thanks for any help, Yves.
Re: configure sendmail in Debian (sendmail.cf included)
Please find enclosed my sendmail.cf file. You will have to change mailhost to the name of your ISP's mail relay host (one that will act as a smart host), or have an alias for it. Using this config file, your mail will go through by SMTP, not by UUCP: just add a `sendmail -q' to your ip-up script (or whatever is called when your ISP connection gets up) and the mail will go out as you want. Yves. (I can email you the .mc file if you want, too). # # Copyright (c) 1983, 1995 Eric P. Allman # Copyright (c) 1988, 1993 # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without # modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions # are met: # 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright #notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. # 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright #notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the #documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. # 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software #must display the following acknowledgement: # This product includes software developed by the University of # California, Berkeley and its contributors. # 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors #may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software #without specific prior written permission. # # THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND # ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE # IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE # ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE # FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL # DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS # OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) # HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT # LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY # OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF # SUCH DAMAGE. # ## ## # # SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE # # built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue Mar 5 23:02:23 MET 1996 # in /usr/local/src/network/sendmail/sendmail-8.7.3/cf/cf # using ../ as configuration include directory # ## ## # @(#)cfhead.m48.3 (Berkeley) 9/15/95 # # @(#)cf.m48.24 (Berkeley) 8/16/95 # # @(#)linux.m4 8.2 (Berkeley) 8/21/93 # # @(#)generic.m4 8.2 (Berkeley) 4/21/95 # # @(#)redirect.m4 8.4 (Berkeley) 6/25/95 # # @(#)use_cw_file.m4 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/7/93 # # @(#)nodns.m4 8.1 (Berkeley) 8/6/93 # # @(#)nocanonify.m48.1 (Berkeley) 6/7/93 # # @(#)proto.m4 8.100 (Berkeley) 12/3/95 # # level 6 config file format V6/Berkeley ## # local info # ## Cwlocalhost # file containing names of hosts for which we receive email Fw-o /etc/sendmail.cw # my official domain name # ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your domain #Dj$w.Foo.COM CP. # Smart relay host (may be null) DSesmtp:mailhost # place to which unknown users should be forwarded #Kuser user -m -a #DLname_of_luser_relay # operators that cannot be in local usernames (i.e., network indicators) CO @ % ! # a class with just dot (for identifying canonical names) C.. # Mailer table (overriding domains) #Kmailertable dbm /etc/mailertable # Domain table (adding domains) #Kdomaintable dbm /etc/domaintable # who I send unqualified names to (null means deliver locally) DR # who gets all local email traffic ($R has precedence for unqualified names) DH # class L: names that should be delivered locally, even if we have a relay # class E: names that should be exposed as from this host, even if we masquerade # class M: domains that should be converted to $M #CL root CE root # dequoting map Kdequote dequote # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DM # my name for error messages DnMAILER-DAEMON CPREDIRECT CPFAX # Configuration version number DZ8.7.3 ### # Options # ### # strip message body to 7 bits on input? O SevenBitInput=False # 8-bit data handling O EightBitMode=pass8 # wait for alias file rebuild (default units: minutes) O AliasWait=10 # location of alias file O AliasFile=/etc/aliases # minimum number of free blocks on
1.1 fresh installation report
Hello, I just installed Debian 1.1: it installed fine, nice job! There are some minor problems, though. Here is an incomplete (sorry...) list of some problems I had while installing: - When making a boot floppy, I inserted an unformated one, and it failed; I used the shell in the second console to format it and reselected the menu item, and the floppy was formatted again. I don't know if it does that in any case, or just if the operation failed previously, but in both cases it is unclear and the process would profit from some explanations. (I'm not sure the first-time user will know how to format the disk from a shell, and the dialog just asks for a blank floppy, not a formatted one). - A message saying that uname cannot be found appears while installing (I don't remember where, sorry). - Dselect lists package multiple times: in their regular sections, and at the end on the listing (without sections). (I did not use a PackagesMaster file, can it be the reason)? - Xconsole is still not anywhere. - Sendmail will not install properly without an existing sendmail.cf; this is annoying since it blocks the proper installation of vm, inn, gnats, and maybe others. - While installing ppp, I get the message `shift count must be = $#'. - Having chosen my X server and answered all X config. questions, I still have XF86_NONE (or NOTHING?) in the Xserver file. - Having installed xdm, the xdm/Xservers file is not updated with an entry for my local server, though the comments in this file indicate it should be done by the installation program. - /etc/initrunlvl is never created. How can I correct that? In addition, is it correct to use it to check the run level we are in in the /etc/rc.*d/* scripts? (I'd like to have xdm start only in runlevel 4, for example). This aside, it works really well! Thanks. Yves.
Re: 'unsupported packages' (was Re: uugetty?)
On Tue, 7 May 1996, Craig Sanders wrote: Hi Craig, As an added bonus, you also get the satisfying feeling of putting something worthwhile back into debian! 8-) At least some preservation of config files should be done additionally to the simple control file setup. Maybe there should be an 'unsupported' directory for packages which have been released but don't have an active maintainer...or is this what 'contrib' is for? Also, allow any package in 'unsupported' can be adopted by anyone who takes the time to actively maintain it. That's okay so far but it doesn't guarantee bug maintainance. Assume all those folks going to install some of these packages and run into trouble No problem for the experienced user but quite annoying to all the members of the mailing lists dealing with supported packages. encourage this? Does the benefit of having lots of extra packages outweigh the disadvantage of having bug reports about unsupported packages? That's what really could be a problem. Generally packaging unsupportet files would be okay as long as those packages are marked UNSUPPORTET or orpahned. If someone adopts it it can make its way into one of the common directories with a small comment adopted 96 by John Doe + Maintainer : Any suggestions ? Greetings, Steffen - Steffen R.Mueller __ ___ _ _ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH \ \/ / (_)_ __ | | __ fax : +49 721 9652 210 Geschaeftsbereich Xlink \ /| | | '_ \| |/ / phone: +49 721 9652 211 Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3/ \| | | | | | RIPE : SM25-RIPE D-76131 Karlsruhe, Germany /_/\_\_|_|_| |_|_|\_\ WWW.Xlink.net/~steffen
Probs with 'tail -f foo | awk ...'
Hi *! Since upgrading from Slack 2xxx to Debian 1.1 the following construction doesn't work any more :-( adson$ cat test EOF A 1 B 1 C 1 EOF adson$ tail -f test | awk '$1 ==B' There should be the output B 1 on stdout now, but nothing happens. It works if I don't use the f-switch, but this is not what I need. Any hints?! Bye, Markus. P.S.: I tried both mawk and gawk. P.P.S.: The lines above are only an example to illustrate my problem. I would like to use this construction to react on certain patterns in log-files (e.g. connection to my provider is up/down etc.) [tail -n 0 -f /var/log/messages | awk -f foo.awk]. -- Markus Hoevekamp Am Berg Fidel 94, D-48153 Muenster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49 251 7636633, Fax +49 251 7636634 http://www.westfalen.de/private/adson/mh
LaTeX (in-)compatibility
Andreas == Andreas Wehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andreas 2.) Documents compiled with b) use more vertical space than
Andreas a), e. g. the same text is distributed on more pages. Most
Andreas annoying are hand-tuned pages from a). The command:
Andreas \setlength{\parskip}{1ex plus0.5ex minus0.2ex} makes no
Andreas difference.(??!)
Have you tried \renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{scale_factor}?
Andreas 3.) The ghostview-preview produced from b) is less readable
Andreas than that of b), given the same X11-terminal at resolution
Andreas 1152x900, magstep 0. The b)-fonts look a micro bit smaller,
Andreas most horizontal bars in t or f are missing at that
Andreas resolution and the e is ugly as well. This point is the
Andreas most important one, for addresses the readability of
Andreas previews!!!
Since you use ghostview, I presume you want to preview some PostScript
specials alongside with text in your document. I find it _far_ better
to use a new(ish) version of xdvik which invokes ghostscript for
displaying PostScript specials.
--
Billy C.-M. Chow // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Debian Linux 1.3.84
Re: Locale in 1.1?
[Please fix your return address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is incomplete] I'd like to have some info about locale handling in Debian. The /usr/lib/locale directory has just an emty dir en_GB in it. I tried to set LANG to fr_FR or ISO-8859-1 (which Linux should support) but nvi still does not display diacritic characters (I had it display them on a Slackware with ISO-8859-1). How can I correct that? AFAIK the locale support doesn't set your display font. Perhaps you need to do a setfont with one of the iso* fonts in /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts ? Ray
Re: LaTeX (in-)compatibility
B.= [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Billy Chow)
B. A. 2.) Documents compiled with b) use more vertical space than
B. A. a), e. g. the same text is distributed on more pages. Most
B. A. annoying are hand-tuned pages from a). The command:
B. A.\setlength{\parskip}{1ex plus0.5ex minus0.2ex} makes no
B. A. difference.(??!)
B.
B. Have you tried \renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{scale_factor}?
Yes, some time ago. You may trim pure text with a factor 1.0
for b) to produce the same output as a), but text + figures and/or
tables go with their own vertival spaces.
B. A. 3.) The ghostview-preview produced from b) is less readable
B. A. than that of b), given the same X11-terminal at resolution
B. A. 1152x900, magstep 0. The b)-fonts look a micro bit smaller,
B. A. most horizontal bars in t or f are missing at that
B. A. resolution and the e is ugly as well. This point is the
B. A. most important one, for addresses the readability of
B. A. previews!!!
B.
B. Since you use ghostview, I presume you want to preview some
B. PostScript specials alongside with text in your document. I find
B. it _far_ better to use a new(ish) version of xdvik which invokes
B. ghostscript for displaying PostScript specials.
Thank you for this hint! I'll give it a try for readability,
despite of the fact that my boss then again has to learn another
piece of free software, in addition to emacs, LaTeX, tgif,
ghostview, xwpick, xpaint, xcalendar, xcalc, ...? (I'm really
happy of that :-). Especially the emacs-outline-mode is GREAT!
Anyone interested in my outline-regexp? My ~/.emacs-file holds the
line: --- (setq-default outline-regexp .[*]_[*]+)
so that the very first char of each line is ignored when
searching headlines, e. g.:
==
%*_* first level headline (HL) in TeX
/*_** 2nd level HL in C */
(*_*** 3rd level HL in Pascal *)
#*_ 4th level HL in some profile
==
and so on.
Thanks, Andreas.
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Uni Wuppertal, FB Elektrotechnik, Tel/Fax: (0202) 439 - 3009
Andreas Wehler; email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure sendmail in Debian
In article Pine.BSD/[EMAIL PROTECTED], gli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Debian 1.1 beta. When I do dpkg --configure sendmail, I get a error message saying that /etc/sendmail.cf is not avaiable. Then I do There is a bug in sendmail-8.7.5-3.deb. Please use sendmail-8.7.5-4.deb as soon as it appears in its destination directory. Mike. -- Miquel van| Cistron Internet Services --Alphen aan den Rijn. Smoorenburg, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cistron.nl/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: +31-172-419445 (Voice) 430979 (Fax) 442580 (Data)
configure sendmail in Debian
If you are setting up sendmail (not smail), you would run /usr/sbin/sendmailconfig to create the sendmail.cf file. This is a slick config script. Kudos to the author.. Tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] What if there were no hypothetical situations? ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: Probs with 'tail -f foo | awk ...'
Since upgrading from Slack 2xxx to Debian 1.1 the following construction doesn't work any more :-( adson$ cat test EOF A 1 B 1 C 1 EOF adson$ tail -f test | awk '$1 ==B' There should be the output B 1 on stdout now, but nothing happens. It works if I don't use the f-switch, but this is not what I need. Any hints?! I'd guess `tail -f' is buffering its output, and so not writing to the pipe until it has a full block. Or, awk is buffering input and waiting for more to come out of tail. Or both. Try with a much bigger `test' file and see what happens. -- Richard Kettlewell http://www.elmail.co.uk/staff/richard/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If my head is in the clouds, it is because I am standing on the shoulders of giants...
Re: more mirror questions
Rick Macdonald wrote: On Mon, 6 May 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd Hi, perhpas somebody can help me. How do I tell mirror the Tiezone Bernd of the Remote Host? If I want to mirror master, ftp and a german Bernd site mirror alway compares different times. Any good solutions? That has been bugging me as well when I switched from ftp.debian.org to some other mirror during the hick-ups at ftp.debian.org. It would be really nice if we could store files dates in UTC (GMT) rather than in localtime. Over the last few days my mirror started retransferring everything again. I didn't bother to figure out why; I finally went and added the get_newer=false parameter to my setup. New files and files whose _sizes_ change still get transferred. I just hope that people stick to the rule never to update a file without incrementing the version number in the file name. I'd like to retract my own suggestion. It occured to me that there are many non-.deb files such as Packages, Contents and the floppy_disk files. These don't have names with version numbers. These files can be updated without changing the file sizes. This is especially true with the floppy_disk files since they are always split on a size of 1474560. Setting the time stamps of these files with -T will lose. So, for me this is still an issue. Any more ideas? -- ...RickM...
HP Jet Direct
Has anyone set up a JetDirect printer up under Debian? If so, can you tell me *how* you got it working? Thanks, Tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] What if there were no hypothetical situations? ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: xbase doesn't setup the server
On Thu, 2 May 1996, Carlos Carvalho wrote: I upgraded X to ELF from .99R6, and after going through xbase, xfnt*, xlib and some clients, xdm didn't start the server. I had to re-decipher all the mess of xdm which I obviously had forgotten :-( This is fixed in xbase-3.1.2-9, uploaded today. I also have a suggestion about fonts: I thought I had installed all the xfnt*, but I had forgotten xfntbase... This means that the server stops when it doesn't find the font fixed. Considering that I had those fonts in the previous installation and that something removed them, so it wasn't my fault, I think it'd be nice to have a dependency for xfntbase either in xserver or xfnt^base* (in zsh notation), or another suitable place. No, a dependency is not the right thing to do; it is quite possible to run the X server without any fonts being installed. The idea of having non-base font packages depend on the base package is interesting, and I'll consider it for the future. It'll probably be reduced in strength to a Recommends line, though. Steve Early [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.1 fresh installation report
On Tue, 7 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: - Xconsole is still not anywhere. You mean the xconsole program, or the named pipe in /dev? I think that /dev/xconsole should be managed by the syslogd package, as the default syslogd configuration refers to it. - Having chosen my X server and answered all X config. questions, I still have XF86_NONE (or NOTHING?) in the Xserver file. I don't know how this happens - I've never seen that problem before. - Having installed xdm, the xdm/Xservers file is not updated with an entry for my local server, though the comments in this file indicate it should be done by the installation program. I knew about that problem, and I've fixed it in the latest xbase, version 3.1.2-9. Steve Early [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS your return mail address seems to be incorrect; you'll probably only receive this message via the mailing list.
Re: 1.1 upg libc - long
Over the last few days, I have upgraded a (work) machine from 0.93r6 to 1.1 beta using Dale Scheetz's manual dpkg instructions. All went smoothly except for libc4. I upgraded dpkg from aout to elf tried again with the results below. Any ideas ? thanks cm nb - After above, i patched the 1.2.13 kernel to elf, recompiled and rebooted ok... From memory, /lib contains the libc4 contents as expected. linux96:/home/debian# dpkg -i --force-conflicts unstable/devel/libc4-4.6.27-14.deb dpkg: considering removing libc in favour of libc4 ... libc is not properly installed - ignoring any dependencies on it. dpkg: yes, will remove libc in favour of libc4. (Reading database ... 13471 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libc4 (from unstable/devel/libc4-4.6.27-14.deb) ... ln: libc.so.4.6.27.save: No such file or directory ln: libm.so.4.6.27.save: No such file or directory ln: libcurses.so.0.1.2.save: No such file or directory ln: libdb.so.1.85.1.save: No such file or directory rm: linux: is a directory dpkg: error processing unstable/devel/libc4-4.6.27-14.deb (--install): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: unstable/devel/libc4-4.6.27-14.deb linux96:/home/debian# Could you please retry this with dpkg 1.1.6. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Re: configure sendmail in Debian (sendmail.cf included)
X failure, not chipset; what is it?
Howdy. I'm seriusly confused by a problem that is showing up with my Debian-distributed X server under Linux 1.3. I've been using various 1.3.x kernels, four different video cards and chipsets, and two motherboards; still I can't make it work (yet). When X starts (using either startx or xdm), it produces a black screen; no matter how long I wait, nothing happens. When I hit Alt-Ctrl-F1, *then* the X server puts up the initial gray background and mouse cursor. (And I can tell it's actually waiting until then to draw the screen, not just delaying showing it to me, because my ISA video card is so slow I can watch it draw the pixels down the screen.) Then the screen goes blank again. I can wait forever and nothing happens. But when I hit Alt-F2/Alt-F1 over and over, the screen finally wakes up and shows me tty1/tty2; and at the same time, the X server fails. (The S3 server exits; the ET4000 server hangs.) Given the effects of the console-switching keys, I speculate that the X server might be waiting to get control of the screen; and when it *does* get control, it doesn't know it, so it does nothing; then when I switch _away_ from the server the first time, it wakes up and starts drawing. How could this happen? How could the kernel and the X server be miscommunicating so badly? If any of you has a clue or a hint or even words of encouragement, please E-Mail me and/or the list. Let me know if I'm alone... please... -- Chip Salzenberg a.k.a. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Men of lofty genius are most active when they are doing the least work. -- Leonardo da Vinci
Printing to Windoze Printer on Local MS Network?
Hi. I've got a new 1.1 machine which is on a local network which includes a Win '95 printserver with no IP address. Does anyone know how to set up printing to such a machine? Will samba allow printing to a machine with no IP address? Thanks in advance. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: HP Jet Directn
Has anyone set up a JetDirect printer up under Debian? If so, can you tell me *how* you got it working? Yes and no. Yes in that you can print to jet.direct.card.name!raw (pardon my SV'ishness), no in that it will always claim to be faulted. Joe Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (423)974-6616 LAN Engineering, 2339 Dunford, Knoxville, TN 37996 Public key on servers (ID 4E52298D) or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Jet Directn
In your email to me, Joe Kirby, you wrote: Has anyone set up a JetDirect printer up under Debian? If so, can you tell me *how* you got it working? Yes and no. Yes in that you can print to jet.direct.card.name!raw (pardon my SV'ishness), no in that it will always claim to be faulted. Uh? Wanna try that in English? I'm too tired to think straight.. You should supply the whole list with some Home-Brew, Joe... :) Tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] You mind if I smoke? Joan D'Arc ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
X config on Laptop
I have (very) recently done a new install of the 1.1 beta test software on an IBM ThinkPad 360. I had previously installed the 0.93R6 release on the same machine, and was able to configure X without much difficulty. After installing the 1.1 beta (which went _very_ smoothly! :), I can no longer get X configured properly, and I do not have the previous config file (I had to remove Debian Linux entirely from the system at one point). I am running into two problems. The first problem is that the system no longer seems to recognize the integrated pointing device (the little pressure sensitive joystick in the middle of the keyboard). It is no longer identified as a PS/2 device at bootup, and I cannot get any response from the mouse when I startx. I have tried various settings of the device type and device location. One difference I have noticed is that there is no longer a /dev/ps2mouse device, although there is a /dev/psmouse device. The second problem is that I cannot seem to get a valid set of ModeLine settings. If I set virtual to 0 0, I get doubled up images of the desktop; i.e., the screen seems to be split in half, and replicated in both the top and bottom halves. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Gary Kline ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
lingering Bash and FTP processses
Sometimes, a telnet or FTP session to our Debian system does not end correctly. I think this usually happens when someone's network connection dies while they are still connected. When this happens (I don't think it happens every time), their shell or FTP process does not die, but lives on forever until I kill it or the system gets rebooted. A lingering FTP process takes little or no CPU time, but a lingering bash process seems to take up a *lot* of CPU time for some reason. Each one takes up a little bit of memory as well. Is this a normal thing? Are others experiencing this? If so, how are you dealing with this? Shouldn't these processes be dying automatically when their network connection dies? It is not really a big problem now, but I imagine it could be in the future as we are getting more and more users on our system all the time. Thanks, Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing to Windoze Printer on Local MS Network?
On Tue, 7 May 1996, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: Hi. I've got a new 1.1 machine which is on a local network which includes a Win '95 printserver with no IP address. Does anyone know how to set up printing to such a machine? Will samba allow printing to a machine with no IP address? The Win95 box must be using the TCP/IP protocol for it to interact with SAMBA. TCP/IP requires an IP address, although this address may be assigned by a DHCP (like bootp) server. SAMBA can do a broadcast on the local net to find a NetBios name, so smbclient (the app which you will use to connect to the Win95 machine) *may* be able to find it even if its address is dynamically allocated. If you can get a static address for the Win95 box then it will work without question. _ Don Gaffney (http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~gaffney) Engineering, Mathematics Business Administration Computer Facility University of Vermont - 237 Votey Building - Burlington, VT 05405 (802) 656-8490 - Fax: (802) 656-8802
Re: HP Jet Direct
Tim, I have tried to ask this a long time ago and never really got any answers. If you do, would you mind copying them onto me.. Many Thanks Martin On Tue, 7 May 1996, Tim 'Death before Decaf' Sailer wrote: Has anyone set up a JetDirect printer up under Debian? If so, can you tell me *how* you got it working? Thanks, Tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] What if there were no hypothetical situations? ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: 1.1 fresh installation report
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just installed Debian 1.1: it installed fine, nice job! There are some minor problems, though. Here is an incomplete (sorry...) list of some problems I had while installing: [...] - /etc/initrunlvl is never created. How can I correct that? In addition, is it correct to use it to check the run level we are in in the /etc/rc.*d/* scripts? (I'd like to have xdm start only in runlevel 4, for example). /etc/initrunlvl is not used anymore. If you want to find out the runlevel, use the runlevel command. It prints out the previous and current runlevel seperated by a space. In addition the /etc/init.d/rc script sets the runlevel for you in the environment variable $runlevel. Anyway, if you want xdm just to startup in runlevel 4, only install the startup links in /etc/rc4.d and not in the other rc?.d directories - that will take care of it. Mike. -- + Miquel van Smoorenburg + Cistron Internet Services + Living is a | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SP6) | Independent Dutch ISP | horizontal | + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.cistron.nl/+ fall+
xconsole
Hi, when I start X through xdm, I get a nice xconsole that displays all kind of messages. When I start xconsole by hand from an X-session (or from my .xsession-file), I don't get them. How do I get them anyway? Maarten ps. an 'echo testing /dev/console` shows up in the window ___ | Maarten Boekhold, Faculty of Electrical Engineering TU Delft, NL | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Take life as a party! | ---
Re: xconsole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I start X through xdm, I get a nice xconsole that displays all kind of messages. When I start xconsole by hand from an X-session (or from my .xsession-file), I don't get them. How do I get them anyway? Maarten I have a similar problem, but worse: 'echo test /dev/console ' gives '/dev/console premission denied'! ps. an 'echo testing /dev/console` shows up in the window Is this because there is a symbolic link from /dev/console to /dev/tty0? There is also an error on booting from syslogd about not being able to find /dev/xconsole. What is /dev/xconsole for? --Derek Lee
