Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
On Thu, 9 May 1996, Keith Beattie[SFSU Student] wrote: > If this is indeed just an xmodmap fix... > > XKeyCaps is a wonderfull X app that will generate those ugly xmodmap > commands for you a-la Macintosh. Take a look at: > > http://home.netscape.com/people/jwz/xkeycaps/index.html > > I don't think there is a .deb package for it but it compiled "out of > the box" for me. There *is* a Debian package for it. Assuming you're upgrading to 1.1, look under unstable/binary/x11/xkeycaps*.deb. There might even be a package in stable, but I wouldn't know about that... Christian
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
> XKeyCaps is a wonderfull X app that will generate those ugly xmodmap > commands for you a-la Macintosh. Take a look at: > > http://home.netscape.com/people/jwz/xkeycaps/index.html > > I don't think there is a .deb package for it but it compiled "out of > the box" for me. Guess what! There is in fact a Debian package for xkeycaps in 1.1 beta. Cheers, -- Robert Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
follow up on bs/del
I've just tested netscape without the overriding translations and it works fine, with just keycode 22 = BackSpace. However, this is only true if I invoke it from the shell. If it's invoked from fvwm backspace doesn't work, with or without the translations. Here's what I use to call netscape (I don't use the debian package): #!/bin/sh XNLSPATH=/usr/local/netscape112/nls \ XKEYSYMDB=/usr/local/netscape112/XKeysymDB \ /usr/local/netscape112/netscape $* Carlos
Re: Supra 288i Sp Modem
Well, I have a Supra 288i modem although it's not speakerphone. I think the problem with plug and play stuff is that it's kind of undefined until the operating system tells it what irq and port to use. I also have dos and windows (Not Win95) on my system, and I first boot into dos to let the dos device driver that came with the modem to set the port and irq (I used other software that came with it to force it to pick the io port and irq that I wanted it to use), and then once I get a dos prompt, I control-alt-delete and go into linux with lilo, and the modem keeps the values that it's been set with, and works under linux. There may be better support for plug and play stuff for linux out there, but I don't have it if there is. If anybody knows a better way to do this, I'd be most appreciative to know it... Shawn On Mon, 6 May 1996, Troy J Kelley wrote: > Hello, > > Has anybody had any experience with the supra 288i Sp "internal > Speakderphone Modem". This modem comes stock with most microns and > is plug and play. I have used the following line in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial: > > "setserial -vb /dev/cua2 irq 5 port 0x03e8 uart 16550A" > > if, after bootup, I do a "setserial /dev/cua2", it feeds those > params back as if everything is ok. Minicom, however, does not > see the modem. Good ol' atdt does nothing. The modem uses non-standard > IRQ and baseaddresses. The values are reported by WIN95 (from > which the modem works just fine, BTW). > > Any help is appreciated. > > Troy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
Keith> XKeyCaps is a wonderfull X app that will generate those ugly xmodmap Keith> commands for you a-la Macintosh. Take a look at: Already available for Debian, albeit in the development tree: PACKAGE: xkeycaps VERSION: 2.29-3 ARCHITECTURE: i386 MAINTAINER: Robert Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DEPENDS: libc5, elf-x11r6lib SUGGESTS: xbaseR6 SECTION: x11 DESCRIPTION: Graphical front-end to xmodmap. xkeycaps is a graphical front-end to xmodmap. It opens a window that looks like a keyboard; moving the mouse over a key shows what KeySyms and Modifier bits that key generates. Clicking on a key simulates KeyPress/KeyRelease events on the window of your choice. It is possible to change the KeySyms and Modifiers generated by a key through a mouse-based interface. This program can also write an input file for xmodmap to recreate your changes in future sessions. -- Dirk Eddelb"uttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
module config in 1.1 install
I have recently installed the beta 1.1 release on 2 systems - a generic desktop PC (486DX4/80) and an IBM ThinkPad 360 Laptop. The install is very smooth now. However, I have not been able to configure modules for the kernel. I didn't even notice the module config option when I first installed, and was wondering where it got to. Then I spotted it later, but all of my attempts to install a module fail. There is a series of messages about not being able to find a module when I enter one of the subsections. Selecting a module for installation gives a "uname" error (?), and then indicates failure of the installation. If I try to "insmod" one of the modules, I get a complaint about symbols for kernel 1.3.95 not matching the 1.3.95 kernel. Finally, in order to get the builtin trackpoint device in the Thinkpad to be recognized, do I need to specify one of the busmouse drivers at bootup (I think the msbusmouse)??? TIA, Gary ps - these were "clean" installs. And there is nothing in the installation notes about configuring modules.
Re: Checking if the network is up
> "L" == Luis Francisco Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: L> Is there any way of checking whether the network is responding so L> that I only run popclient when it is? I just have my ip-up script (it's a ppp config script, see man pppd) touch a file in /usr/local/etc/ppp when I connect, and ip-down remove the file when I disconnect. Then I can just check for the existence of that file, and know if I'm connected. Alternatively, you could check the output of "netstat -r". -- Rob
problems with nis
I am trying to use the nis package in debian. I have it setup as a master. When I boot up my system I get the following message. YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: No bound server for domain Chipper Once I have finished the boot if I do a ypcat hosts the sae message appears. If I then start a ppp link the message goes away and everything is fine. This causes a problem with atrun. If I dont start ppp and leave my system on for a few hours I start getting the following mail once every minute to root. Date: Fri, 10 May 96 09:25 EDT From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> atrun -d -l 0.5 YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: No bound server for domain Chipper Everything was in their initial state execpt that I did everything in the /usr/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto file to setup a master server. My question is why will nis not work unless I start ppp. Any help would be appreciated cause I have looked everywhere. TIA Dale Miller
Re: xconsole for 1.1?
On Thu, 9 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: > Is there a debian package with xconsole somewhere? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] >dpkg -S xconsole xbase: /usr/X11R6/bin/xconsole xbase: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xconsole.1x Hope that answers your question... That's the unstable xbase. Christian
Re: 1.1 installation notes.
> I just installed the beta debian 1.1, over a very old Slackware >system (I'm going to update a debian 0.96 system soon, using >floppies no less). >I used .deb files that I had ftp'ed on April 26, but the >boot,root,base disks I freshly ftp'ed. >It went very smoothly. >One trouble is that I find the dselect "Select" screen confusing. >Admittedly, It is not immediately obvious to me which line is the >"selection". Also I was surprised, the first time I used dselect, to >see each section (admin, doc, text, etc.) show up multiple times. >I would prefer not starting in a split-screen mode here. > ... The deselect/select application does wonderful things. However with sophistication comes complexity and confusion, and this package can be confusing - to a new user or someone coming from the slackware environment. It would be nice if the package could appear more visually inutative. Obviously with losing any of its functionality. I have found the dependancy list to be a bit confusing also... However - I think the overall package is GrEaT !!! Everyone take a bow for your exceptional efforts...
Re: Checking if the network is up
Hi, how about: #!/bin/sh if ! ping -c 3 known_address_which_is_in_etc_hosts | grep -q "round-trip" then do_your_stuff fi We use this to check our leased line every 5 mins. Maarten ___ | Maarten Boekhold, Faculty of Electrical Engineering TU Delft, NL | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Take life as a party! | ---
Checking if the network is up
Luis Francisco Gonzalez: > Is there any way of checking whether the network is responding so > that I only run popclient when it is? That usually depends on what exactly you mean by "the network". If you're using diald or some such, take a look at the result of `route`. If the network is always "logically up" on your machine, but frequently not "physically up" you'll need to probe for a response from some remote system. Take a look at the man page for ping and read about the -c and -n options. You'll need to run grep on the result because the presence or absence of a remote host won't affect ping's return code. -- Raul
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
On Thu, 9 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: > The subject says it: none of these keys work with Motif apps on a > fresh installation. I'm sure some xmodmap commands (though I'm not > sure which ones, if you can help) would do the trick, but I wonder > what neither of them is usable by default? I did a ln -s /usr/X11R6 /usr/X386 in order to get the motif application netscape running. This way it will find the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB for wihich netscape looks at /usr/X386/lib/X11/XKeysymDB May the debian team will include this symlink in the xbase package Yours -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
scsi on the 1.1 boot disk
I was curious as to why the new 1.1 boot disk kernels don't seem to have the scsi drivers compliled in? I've down loaded the latest disks and tried to boot up a couple of machines, one with the NCR 53c810 and the other with an Adaptect 2940 scsi controller, neither kernel pick up the scsi disks. Shouldn't the initial boot kernels have as many drivers as possible turned on?? Do I have to pass boot parms or make custom bootdisks in 1.1? Thanks. -- Mike Chovan CSGnet Sacramento, Calif.
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
Yves Arrouye wrote: > > The subject says it: none of these keys work with Motif apps on a > fresh installation. I'm sure some xmodmap commands (though I'm not > sure which ones, if you can help) would do the trick, but I wonder > what neither of them is usable by default? > If this is indeed just an xmodmap fix... XKeyCaps is a wonderfull X app that will generate those ugly xmodmap commands for you a-la Macintosh. Take a look at: http://home.netscape.com/people/jwz/xkeycaps/index.html I don't think there is a .deb package for it but it compiled "out of the box" for me. (Yup, it was written by one of the netscape developers. Check out netscape's "N" icon after hitting his page. Now think about what else might be slipped into that ever-so-prevelant "client". :) :) -- // Keith Beattie Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (LBL) \\ // SFSU Grad Student Imaging and Distributed Computing Group (ITG) \\ // [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-itg.lbl.gov/~beattie \\ // 1 Cyclotron Rd. MS: 50B-2239 Berkeley, CA 94720 (510) 486-6692 \\
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
It's interesting that people are having problems now with Motif apps, because suddenly, my problems with Motif apps have been magically solved. That is, the backspace key now works correctly for both Motif and non-Motif apps. Previously, if I wanted the backspace key to work correctly with Motif apps, I would have to map it to backspace (where the default was mapped to delete). But, if I did this, then it would not work correctly with non-Motif apps because they generally want the delete key instead of backspace. There was usually a fix for each of these non-Motif apps but *each* app had to be fixed individually which was a pain. So, I just left the backspace key mapped to delete and used ^H when using Motif apps. Thanks to whoever fixed this. Please don't change it back to the way it was. So, if people are having trouble now, and they've previously mapped backspace to backspace (^H) for Motif apps, try changing the mapping back to delete and see if this solves the problem. Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 9 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: > The subject says it: none of these keys work with Motif apps on a > fresh installation. I'm sure some xmodmap commands (though I'm not > sure which ones, if you can help) would do the trick, but I wonder > what neither of them is usable by default? > > YA. > >
cfengine-1.2.26-2.deb bad /etc/cfengine.conf
The default /etc/cfengine.conf does not work out of the box because the actionsequence is empty (parse error line 23). Also, wouldn't it be nice to have the postinst script get the timezone from the installed system? YA.
/etc/papersize?
Could someone email a sample /etc/papersize file on this list? Yves.
Re: Locale in 1.1?
On Thu, 9 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: > The fact that nvi (does not) displays diacritic characters has nothing > to do with the fonts, just to what isprint() returns. I had it work > under Linux using a Slackware 3.0 distribution. [snip] > typing diacritic characters tells they are not printable with LANG set > to ISO-8859-1 :-( Is it a bug in the libc5 used with 1.1? A bug with > me? In any case, it's annoying... Errm... What you care about is LC_CTYPE (character set), not LANG (language), methinks. Anyhow... I've compiled my own fr_CA locale file. If you're interested just e-mail me and I'll send you a copy. After that doing "setenv LC_CTYPE fr_CA" will make nvi happy... assuming it calls setlocale() somewhere. (I did a small test similar to yours and it worked iff I did a call to setlocale().) I'll probably do a set of Debian packages for locale support at some point in the future... After I've done all the other stuff I have to do. Christian
Bug in date (1.1)
I can't find the name of the package maintainer, so here's the problem: when the timezone is incorrectly set (the default in my 1.1 brand new installation), saying % date +%Z does something bad: instead of returning an empty timezone (as if I say "date '+%H %Z'" which works perfectly), the disk starts spinning and date does not return until it is killed. Yves.
Checking if the network is up
Hi, I am trying to write a script to use popclient to download the mail from the office's server. This will run on a portable. I want the script to check whether the network is up before attempting to retrieve any mail, as I am likely to use the notebook in other places and won't be hooked to the network. The question is: Is there any way of checking whether the network is responding so that I only run popclient when it is? Thanks. Luis.
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
> > The subject says it: none of these keys work with Motif apps on a > fresh installation. I'm sure some xmodmap commands (though I'm not > sure which ones, if you can help) would do the trick, but I wonder > what neither of them is usable by default? > > YA. > > I just installed debian on two different machines during the last few days and it works for both. I am not sure what happened in your case. I am not sure what xmodmap commands you need. So I can't help you with that. Luis.
News
With the installation of 1.1, I would like to set up a news server to serve myself news which which will be snagged by 'suck' or equivalent. What package should I be installing? Any other tips appreciated. (I've stretched my knowledge of bnews far enough.) Thanks.
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
On Thu, 9 May 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > xmodmap -e << END Oops, that line should be xmodmap - << END Guy
does dselect give package sizes?
I installed 0.93r6 but did not see where dselect gave the disk space used by packages. This is obviously a very important piece of information. If it was obviously right in front of me I am sorry for wasting people's time. Thanks Nathan Salwen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
On Thu, 9 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: > The subject says it: none of these keys work with Motif apps on a > fresh installation. I'm surprised neither of them work. The linux console is set up to produce a delete when backspace is hit. XFree emulates this. Typical behavior is both bs and del producing a del. Here is the xmodmap sequence to set both, though the second shouldn't be necessary. xmodmap -e << END ! Fixes backspace keycode 22 = BackSpace ! Shouldn't be necessary keycode 107 = Delete END If you need to fool with xmodmap more, you can find out keycodes with xev(1) and keysymnames from . Guy
Re: How to remove a user?
Andreas Wehler > A> After searching a while for a program or script to completely > A> remove a user I didn't found something and did it per hand. Is > A> this neccessary? Thanks. Removing a user is something that should be done with thought. In some circumstances (user never existed), it's just a matter of removing the user's home directory and the entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group. Other times (when the user really exists) it may be more appropriate to change the user's shell to /bin/false (or something hand crafted along the lines of /usr/local/bin/why-your-account-is-turned-off-user) for a period of time before removing stuff. Also, if the user really existed, there may be files outside the home directory that also need to be dealt with (e.g. /var/spool/mail/user, or /home/friend/shared/foo). What "dealt with" means depends on the situation... -- Raul
Re: Locale in 1.1?
J. H. M. Dassen writes:
> [Please fix your return address: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is incomplete]
I know. Sorry, my dns domain name was not set. Should be okay now.
> > I'd like to have some info about locale handling in Debian. The
> > /usr/lib/locale directory has just an emty dir en_GB in it.
> >
> > I tried to set LANG to fr_FR or ISO-8859-1 (which Linux should
> > support) but nvi still does not display diacritic characters (I had it
> > display them on a Slackware with ISO-8859-1). How can I correct that?
>
> AFAIK the locale support doesn't set your display font.
> Perhaps you need to do a setfont with one of the iso* fonts in
> /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts ?
The fact that nvi (does not) displays diacritic characters has nothing
to do with the fonts, just to what isprint() returns. I had it work
under Linux using a Slackware 3.0 distribution.
Doing a little test:
#include
#include
#include
main() {
int c;
setlocale(LC_ALL, "");
while ((c = getchar()) != EOF) {
if (c == '\n') continue;
printf("0x%02d: %d\n", c, isprint(c));
}
}
typing diacritic characters tells they are not printable with LANG set
to ISO-8859-1 :-( Is it a bug in the libc5 used with 1.1? A bug with
me? In any case, it's annoying...
Yves.
1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
The subject says it: none of these keys work with Motif apps on a fresh installation. I'm sure some xmodmap commands (though I'm not sure which ones, if you can help) would do the trick, but I wonder what neither of them is usable by default? YA.
Pb. with 1.1's telinit (sysvinit 2.60)
When issuing a telinit command to change runlevel (from 2 to 4, for example), nothing happens :-(, processes are not being sent any signal and new processes don't start. Why? I heard about a 2.70 sysvinit package on this list. Is it debianized somewhere? Yves.
