Re: PPP problem w/ 1.1 install

1996-06-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

 Manoj Srivastava writes [ SuperCite undone - iwj ]:
  Brian C White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   So...  Should there be a restriction against listing the
   kernel-image as a dependancy in another package?
  
  No, since if you follow the recommended method of generating
  kernel images, this will work.  
 
 On the contrary, we should not require people to follow this method,
 especially when it's easy not to make this requirement.
 
 Packages which need a particular kernel or kernel feature to run
 correctly should test for the kernel version of feature in the
 postinst (or in the preinst, if the package being broken is a serious
 problem for the whole syste, for example for a base package).

This fails to provide protection if the kernel is downgraded to a kernel
that never provided the desired feature, or upgrading to a kernel that
provides this feature in a different manner or with a different interface.

I would suggest that it is always inappropriate for a package to depend on
a particular kernel version. It is much better for the package in question
to depend on a version of libc that provides the desired interface to the
kernel. Then the kernel version can change without breaking the
application program. It was my understanding that this is exactly why
David E. began providing kernel headers with libc5.

I say: Use depends, but make it depend on the appropriate version of libc
and not on a particular kernel package.

Thanks,

Dwarf

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daemon.log

1996-06-01 Thread Richard Lovison

Hello all,

I am new to this list as well as to the Debian distribution.  I installed
Debian 1.1 a couple of weeks ago and so far I'm very pleased with the
system. :)

I am receiving the following message in my /var/log/daemon.log whenever I
use DIP to connect to my provider via SLIRP:

modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4
  net-pf-3
  net-pf-5

I can't seem to locate a module by that name.  Everything seems to work
OK. I can connect to my provider and use Telnet, FTP, Netscape, etc..
Is this anything I should be concerned about?  BTW, during the network
setup, I configured for loopback---never entered any info for
domainname, IP address, netmask,etc..  I then had to create my own
/etc/resolv.conf and enter:

domain  simons-rock.edu (provider's domainname)
search  simons-rock.edu
nameserver  ...

Thanks in advance,---Richard


Re: daemon.log

1996-06-01 Thread dkklee
 I am receiving the following message in my /var/log/daemon.log whenever I
 use DIP to connect to my provider via SLIRP:

 modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4
   net-pf-3
   net-pf-5


Add these lines to your /etc/conf.modules to switch them off

alias net-pf-3 off  # AX.25
alias net-pf-4 off  # IPX
alias net-pf-5 off  # Appletalk


MOre details can be found in the discussion in the debian-user list archive.

--Derek Lee


Re: Netscape Mail /var/spool/mail permissions

1996-06-01 Thread Brian C. White
 I am wondering how I should set the permissions for /var/spool/mail
 if I want to use Netscape Mail. The debian base system has it set to
 drwxrwsr-t (user=root group=mail). However, this does not work with
 Netscape Mail. Netscape suggests setting it to mode 01777 ie drwxrwxrwt.
 
 What is the suitable arrangement which satisfies debian concerns of
 security?

First, use the Netscape debian package.

Second, do _not_ change the permissions of /var/spool/mail.  The permissions
that Netscape suggests introduce a small security hole where one user could
potentially gain complete access to another's mail.  (It's small, but true.)
The permissions in the Debian system are correct.

Third, under Mail  News Preferences, select the external movemail
program and set it to /usr/lib/netscape/movemail.

Brian
   ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

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Help. Can't boot all of a sudden.

1996-06-01 Thread Dale Miller
I was using my linux box today and noticed that
when I logged out on a tty the boo  login prompt
did not return. I then rebooted and all of a sudden
the kernel stoips booting at INIT: Booting v2.61.
It stops here and will go no further. I updated
a couple of packages like quota, cvs and a couple
of others. Is there some way to get this to reboot
without re-installing. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Dale Miller


Re: Capturing booting output

1996-06-01 Thread RHS Linux User
  how did you capture the output?
 
 I wrote it by hand. But by the side, capturing the booting output to a file
 would make sense.

`man 8 dmesg`

Todd Lewis


PGP MailCrypt

1996-06-01 Thread Derek Lee
Is there a debian package of PGP2.6.3i? 
(Is it located outside US? I have only looked at US ftp servers.)

ALso, is there a debian package for MailCrypt (Emacs/PGP interface)?
I found a package for auto-pgp, but it appears that I have to use
emacs rmail to take advantage of it...

--Derek Lee


Re: big problems with installation

1996-06-01 Thread Martin Konold

  Hello,
I have an old AMD' 80386 40MHz with 4MB of RAM and I really like
  to install Linux on it. I spent some time looking around and
  then I decided to proceed with the Debian distribution.
  Got the five disks of the 0.93R6 version I started the installation 
  but with no success at all.
  I disabled all the option for shadowing ROM and I deleted all
  the data on the HD (Conner CP30104 121MB) before to start.
  Then I ran the boot and root disks (created with dd ...).
 
 Why don't you try installing Debian 1.1 beta instead of 0.93R6? It's
 located in the unstable directory of your friendly Debian mirror site.
 but don't be misled by the 'unstable' name... 1.1 is now in late beta and
 is quite stable now. And the installation process has been improved quite
 a bit in 1.1.

I do agree. You really should go for 1.1 beta. This version is supposed 
to work with only 4mb. There have been recent changes in the setup 
procedure to ensure that it is possible to install with 4mb. If it doesnt 
work than something is definetely broken (Even win95 can be installed on 
4mb machines :-) Please tell the mailing list if you are succesful with 
1.1 beta. (BTW: Wenn will 1.1 be released?)

YOurs,
martin


problem with traceroute

1996-06-01 Thread Scott Barker
Since upgrading netstd to version 2.03-1, I'm getting the following error out
of traceroute:

traceroute: IP_HDRINCL: Protocol not available

Is this because I'm still running a 1.2.13 kernel? Is the above protocol
something new in 1.3.xx?


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Netscape Mail /var/spool/mail permissions

1996-06-01 Thread Derek Lee
Hi,

I am wondering how I should set the permissions for /var/spool/mail
if I want to use Netscape Mail. The debian base system has it set to
drwxrwsr-t (user=root group=mail). However, this does not work with
Netscape Mail. Netscape suggests setting it to mode 01777 ie drwxrwxrwt. 

What is the suitable arrangement which satisfies debian concerns of
security?

--Derek Lee