Re: 1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-14 Thread Christian Hudon
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Derek Lee wrote:

> My system is a Dell XPS which I don't think is so uncommon, and
> it came with a PS2 mouse. So please please please include psaux support
> as a module in the kernel-image packages.

This is a 'me-too' message. Gateway 2000 computers also come with a PS2
mouse...

   Christian



Re: .xinitrc

1996-06-14 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
Yves Arrouye wrote:
: 
: Rick Hawkins writes:
:  > one more, probably minor thing:  with it set up for xdm, it ignores the
:  > .xinitrc file in my home directory.  am i missing something obvious?
: 
: When one uses xdm, the .xsession file is used instead. You can just have
: one that looks like:
: 
:   #! /bin/sh
: 
:   sh $HOME/.xinitrc
: (the 'sh' should not been necessary, but does no harm...).

On my system there is a link:

/home/bmt/heiko/.xinitrc -> .xsession

And .xsession is:
#
#!/bin/bash -login
# xmodmap /usr/lib/X11/etc/de-hacker.xmod
export TERM=xterm
xclock -chime -geometry 100x100-0+0 &
xclipboard -geometry 310x52--4+259 &
xload -geometry 100x63-0+116 &
xterm -geometry 80x24+10+50 -sb -ls -font 7x14 -bg gray -name $(hostname)&
exec fvwm &
xbiff -geometry 100x45-0+195


Heiko
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Re: 1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-14 Thread Derek Lee
>> Andy Dougherty wrote:
>> 1.  My PS/2 mouse no longer works.  I'll try to track this down >>today.

If you cannot find psaux.o and misc.o in /lib/modules/misc/ , then
you probably have to build them yourself. If you have them, then
add the line 'psaux.o' to your /etc/modules file.

This is my problem too, and I have been building my own kernel since
the first debian beta release. Is there still no psaux.o distributed
in any of the kernel or module packages? What is the debian strategy
on providing modules that are not compiled into the kernel?

My system is a Dell XPS which I don't think is so uncommon, and
it came with a PS2 mouse. So please please please include psaux support
as a module in the kernel-image packages.

--Derek Lee


Re: 1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-14 Thread Scott Barker
Chris Walker said:
> Andy Dougherty wrote:
> > 1.  My PS/2 mouse no longer works.  I'll try to track this down today.
> 
> Try compiling the kernel with PS/2 mouse support in the kernel, rather than
> as a module. I can't use the kernel-image-1.99.7 for this reason, as lack of
> mouse support seems to cause X to hang the computer. I've reported this
> (Bug#3265), and if you can throw more light on it, I'm sure it would be
> welcome. I'm beginning to wonder whether this problem is a kernel bug.

I am using kernel 2.0, and I have the ps/2 mouse compiled as a module. It
works just fine. When I start X, a module 'misc' is loaded, which seems to be
a pre-depend for the psaux module.

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Re: 1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-14 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Chris Walker wrote:

> Andy Dougherty wrote:
> > 
> > I tried a fresh install of 1.1 Beta using the 11 June 1996 disks.
> > 
> > 1.  My PS/2 mouse no longer works.  I'll try to track this down today.
> 
> Try compiling the kernel with PS/2 mouse support in the kernel, rather than
> as a module.

The problem is that the psaux module wasn't available on the 11 June 
installation disks (unless I goofed up somewhere in the installation).

In my case, the fix was simple, if rather long-winded. I obtained the
kernel 2.0.0.tar.gz sources, configured, built, and installed a new kernel
with PS/2 mouse support using the nifty kernel-package package (from
project/experimental). 

Back to the installation issue . . . is there room on the root diskette 
to include the psaux module?  I doubt I'm the only Debian user with a 
PS/2-style mouse.  That one only thing I needed to add.

Andy Dougherty  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Physics
Lafayette College, Easton PA 18042


Re: tin package

1996-06-14 Thread Guy Maor
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Scott Barker wrote:

> Any ideas why there is still a tin package in the 'contrib' dir, when there is
> already one in buzz/binary/news?

Fixed.  Thanks.


Re: Packages file for buzz

1996-06-14 Thread Guy Maor
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Scott Barker wrote:

> The Packages file for 'buzz' still references all packages to the 'unstable'
> directory. Is this a bug?

Being fixed.


Re: .xinitrc

1996-06-14 Thread Rob Browning
Yves Arrouye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When one uses xdm, the .xsession file is used instead. You can just have
> one that looks like:
> 
>   #! /bin/sh
> 
>   sh $HOME/.xinitrc

Or just

ln -s .xinitrc .xsession

which has worked fine for me.

I do the same for .Xdefaults -> .Xresources, although someone
recently told me that that they weren't so sure about that, but it
seems to work...

--
Rob


.xinitrc

1996-06-14 Thread Yves Arrouye

Rick Hawkins writes:
 > 
 > one more, probably minor thing:  with it set up for xdm, it ignores the
 > .xinitrc file in my home directory.  am i missing something obvious?
 > 

When one uses xdm, the .xsession file is used instead. You can just have
one that looks like:

#! /bin/sh

sh $HOME/.xinitrc

(the 'sh' should not been necessary, but does no harm...).

Yves.


Re: 1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-14 Thread Chris Walker
Andy Dougherty wrote:
> 
> I tried a fresh install of 1.1 Beta using the 11 June 1996 disks.
> 
> The installation disks worked quite well, including modules configuration.
> The core dump in configuring the net/ modules is indeed gone.  My
> /etc/modules file is also now properly populated with the modules I selected.
> Good job.  Thanks.
> 
> My remaining complaints are two-fold:
> 
> 1.  My PS/2 mouse no longer works.  I'll try to track this down today.

Try compiling the kernel with PS/2 mouse support in the kernel, rather than
as a module. I can't use the kernel-image-1.99.7 for this reason, as lack of
mouse support seems to cause X to hang the computer. I've reported this
(Bug#3265), and if you can throw more light on it, I'm sure it would be
welcome. I'm beginning to wonder whether this problem is a kernel bug.

Chris


Re: Loading X Windows

1996-06-14 Thread Chris Walker
Buddha Buck wrote:
> 
> >
> > > Is it possible to start an X session from the shell?
> >
> > yes.  type "startx" at the command line, as any user, and the machine is
> > transformed.  you can end with alt-ctl-backspace.
> >
> > > Also, does X allow multiple sessions at once?
> >
> > what do you mean by this.  you can have multiple windows open.  type
> > "xterm &" to launch an extra xterm, for example.  Or you can log in from
> > another x-capable machine and open windows.
> >
> Or, if you are desparate and foolish enough (and have a lot of memory),
> you -can- run multiple X servers on different virtual consoles.  I've
> done this in the past.  I don't recommend it.
> 

The command I use to do this is:

X :1.0 -query 

For even more replace :1.0 with :2.0 etc.

I've used it occasionally so that I can don't have to reconfigure my machine
(which boots into X) to run an X session on a remote machine as well as a
session on my local machine.

I hope this helps.

Chris


Packages file for buzz

1996-06-14 Thread Scott Barker
The Packages file for 'buzz' still references all packages to the 'unstable'
directory. Is this a bug?

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Re: X-window keys

1996-06-14 Thread Max Hyre
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   Dear readers:

   Thanks for the info!

   Martin Alonso Soto Jacome's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> answer got to
me first:

> Well, that's exactly what xdm is intended for.  xdm tries to keep an 
> xserver running permanently, so that you can always login to the system 
> using a nice graphical login prompt dialog box.

  ``Oh'', he said in a quiet voice.  (I've just started using X under
Linux, and hadn't grasped the differences between startx and xdm.)

   At the time I was tweaking the ModeLines to get the display size
best suited to the screen, and thus was starting and killing X
constantly.  Next time, I'll just use startx, and save myself some
hassle.

   Thanks in arrears, too.

Sincerely,

Max Hyre

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tin package

1996-06-14 Thread Scott Barker
Any ideas why there is still a tin package in the 'contrib' dir, when there is
already one in buzz/binary/news?

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Re: X-window keys

1996-06-14 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
>Dear Debianites:
> 
>Let me clarify my previous post... (I just thought to go back and
> try it for accuracy---maybe next time I'll think to do so *before*
> posting :-).)
> 
> > why ctl-alt-bs might not kill X?
> 
>Rather, ``why X comes right back after dying''?  After ctl-alt-bs,
> X does indeed appear to die---everything goes black, I see the virtual
> terminal from which I started xdm momentarily, then I'm back in X
> again.
> 
I think that the problem is that xdm re-launches the server when it is brought
down by ctrl-alt-bksp. It is xdm that is running the server. This means that X
is indeed being brought down only to be re-launched again.

AFAIK, to kill xdm you just need to run /etc/init.d/xdm stop as root. 

Hope this helps!
Luis.


Re: X-window keys

1996-06-14 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Max Hyre wrote:

>Rather, ``why X comes right back after dying''?  After ctl-alt-bs,
> X does indeed appear to die---everything goes black, I see the virtual
> terminal from which I started xdm momentarily, then I'm back in X
> again.

Well, that's exactly what xdm is intended for.  xdm tries to keep an 
xserver running permanently, so that you can always login to the system 
using a nice graphical login prompt dialog box.  In general, the purpose 
of xdm is to keep the machine running X all the time, and that's what 
it is doing now in your machine.

If you want to run X only from time to time, just say startx from your
usual text shell.  That way, you'll get a normal X session, that you'll be
able to finish with ctrl+alt+backspace, or better, stopping your window 
manager (or whatever other program you have at the end of your .xinitrc 
file). 

Regards,

M. S.

Martin A. Soto J.   Profesor
Departamento de Ingenieria de Sistemas y Computacion
Universidad de los Andes  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


1.1 Beta Install (11 June 1996 disks)

1996-06-14 Thread Andy Dougherty
I tried a fresh install of 1.1 Beta using the 11 June 1996 disks.

The installation disks worked quite well, including modules configuration.
The core dump in configuring the net/ modules is indeed gone.  My
/etc/modules file is also now properly populated with the modules I selected.
Good job.  Thanks.

My remaining complaints are two-fold:

1.  My PS/2 mouse no longer works.  I'll try to track this down today.

2.  Several packages in the buzz/ directory probably ought to be updated.
In particular, I find dselect-1.2.6 much nicer than 1.2.3.  Less 
important, but more jarring, is that the system is installed with
kernel 2.0.0, but all the devel/ stuff is still 1.99.7.


   



Re: X-window keys

1996-06-14 Thread Max Hyre
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   Dear Debianites:

   Let me clarify my previous post... (I just thought to go back and
try it for accuracy---maybe next time I'll think to do so *before*
posting :-).)

> why ctl-alt-bs might not kill X?

   Rather, ``why X comes right back after dying''?  After ctl-alt-bs,
X does indeed appear to die---everything goes black, I see the virtual
terminal from which I started xdm momentarily, then I'm back in X
again.

> (non-root, I think)

   I thunk wrong---it was from a root command prompt, and I had to
start another root command prompt to kill it as outlined previously.


   Again, thanks for your help.


Sincerely,

Max Hyre

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X-window keys (was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

1996-06-14 Thread Max Hyre
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   Dear Debianists:

   While we're on the subject, does anyone have any suggestions as to
why ctl-alt-bs might not kill X?

   I was running a 0.93R6 system, started X with xdm from a (non-root,
I think) command line, but could't get out as advertised.  I tried both
the backspace key above the return, and ctl-alt-H (just in case ctl-H
might have something to do with it).  I ended up doing ctl-alt-Fx to a
virtual terminal, ps to find X's pid, then killing that.

   Any thoughts welcome.


Thanks in advance,

Max Hyre

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Re: No terminal capabilities after upgrade

1996-06-14 Thread Guy Maor
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote:

> Still don't know where this termcap file comes from.  It's also on my
> Debian system at home and also belongs to no installed package.

It was a conffile of 0.93r6 base.  It's not used by any package, and
it's safe to delete it.  If you need termcap compatibility for old
non-debian programs, install the termcap-compat package, which includes
libtermcap and a better /etc/termcap.


Guy


Re: Loading X Windows

1996-06-14 Thread Guy Maor
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Buddha Buck wrote:

> Or, if you are desparate and foolish enough (and have a lot of memory), 
> you -can- run multiple X servers on different virtual consoles.  I've 
> done this in the past.  I don't recommend it.

I run multiple X servers (at different bit depths) on different
consoles all the time, and it works great.  I have 32 megs, but the
other X server gets totally swapped out.

BTW, if you want to do this, there's a small bug in xinit.  If you
start the second server as 'xinit', it'll get started on :1.0, but
$DISPLAY is still set to ':0.0' in .xinitrc.  If you start it as 'xinit
-- :1.0', it's ok.


Guy


Majordomo install problem

1996-06-14 Thread Juhani Luhtanen

I have installed the new 1.1 and everything went fine except for the 
majordomo package. I get 

Failed to create group majordom:
adduser: the user you specified already exist

when I try to run dpkg --install with the majordomo.deb file. 

All in all I am very pleased with the new Debian. Thanks alot for all the 
developers.

Juhani

.signature ? did you really expect a .signature?  Sheesh.


Re: Unidentified subject!

1996-06-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Noam Rettig wrote:

> I'm rather new to Debian, so this may seem trivial.  It certainly is
> frustrating.  I was in an X session and wanted to switch to another console.
> I figured out that Ctrl+Alt+Fn will work.  However, I can't switch back.
> 'who' says that I am using the ttyp0 console.  How do I switch to it?
> 
Try the first VC above the assigned ones. For Debian this is F7.

Luck,

Dwarf

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Re: debian v1.1 probs

1996-06-14 Thread Martin Konold
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote:
> As I understand it, there can not be two versions of the same package in
> the same archive.

Ok, how about the same solution Debian uses for gnu gs versa Alladin gs?

Yours,
martin


Re: rcp/permission/nfs problems

1996-06-14 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi Rick,

> ONe of the machines gets a response of 
> 
> # /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs start
> Starting remote filesystem services: nfsd mountd ugidd pcnfsd bwnfsd
> rpc: RPC: U
> nable to receive; errno = Connection refused

Is your rpc.portmap running? It should be started from /etc/init.d/netbase.

> while starting ( i tried manually doing it).  however, it happily mounts
> the other--manually, not automatically.  i have the following fstab: 

These daemons are needed for exporting a FS.

> i can't mount the other direction, though:

That's it.

Michael

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Re: package conflicts

1996-06-14 Thread Michael Meskes
David Gaudine writes:
>> >   psfonts
> 
>There's gsfonts, fonts for ghostscript.  Is that what you mean?
> 
> I got some sort of "can't find psfonts" error, I forget the details,
> when I was using a bad copy of one of the package in the tex directory.
> I can't check the name of the package now, something like psnfs(?)
> I asked here, and someone told me to get the psnfs(?) package from the
> stable directory instead of unstable, and everything worked.  I never did
> figure out why.  However, it did seem that dselect went looking for a
> package called psfonts when it really wanted psnfs(?)
> 
> Sorry to be so vague, but a vague answer is better than no answer.  Sometimes.

The correct name is texpsfnt. And the latest dvips does recommend it instead
of psfonts. So you'll never again should see that.

Michael

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Apache server

1996-06-14 Thread ' ALLAN W. BART

hello,

i havew an old 386dx pc and i was thinking about learning about http 
servers, it has 4mb of ram and iwas wondering if it would be possible to 
use this a a learning platform?

allan


Re: installation notes

1996-06-14 Thread Scott Barker
Rick Hawkins said:
> > > You have to install dpkg-ftp.
> 
> > After much hunting, I found this in /debian/project/experimental
> 
> which mirror did you find this on?  i just tried caldera, and it's not
> there.  I've accidentally removed it from one of my machines, and am
> trying to move the files from the other . . . 

I found it on ftp.debian.org:/debian/project/experimental/dpkg-ftp*

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ftp-install problem in Debian 1.11

1996-06-14 Thread David C Winters

Here's a message I sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], before I discovered 
and signed on to this list.  Has anyone else encountered this?  If yes, 
what was your solution?  Thanks.

// Begin Forwarded Message:
I'm working on an installation of 1.11, specifically the 1996_6_11
version.  I'm using 1.11 because of the ftp-install option; my machine 
doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, nor do I have access to NFS servers, and I'd 
prefer to install from floppy if at all possible.  (I did a "test" install 
of 0.93r6 yesterday, and didn't see this option there.)
When trying to choose the ftp installation method in dselect, I 
received the following Perl-related errors:

Can't locate Carp.pm in @INC at /usr/lib/perl5/vars.pm  line 21.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vars.pm  line 21.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Socket.pm  line 3.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/perl/Net/ftp.pm  line 41.  //line wrapped
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup line 8.

query/setup script returned error exit status 2.
// End Forwarded Message

Is this something that using the 1996_6_2 version of 1.11 will 
correct? 
Also, does anyone know if (ie, has it been announced that) the 2.0
kernel be incorporated into 1.11, or will 1.11 be promoted to gamma status
essentially "as is" with 2.0 being placed in a later distribution?

I did a basic install last night with 0.93r6, but I didn't care
when it blew up on the reboot because I had to give the laptop back anyhow.
If LILO was included in 0.93r6, I missed it; if not, having it is a big
plus for 1.11.  I REALLY like the incorporation of the TCP/IP config being
placed in the basic installation configuration; I've done TCP/IP configs by
hand using Slackware and on SunOS (and MacOS and Win95 and Windows-Winsock
and MS-DOS and ...) but it was nice that its inclusion into the install-
config meant I didn't have to.  Nice touch!


David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pitt.edu/~winters/
http://www.pitt.edu/~dcwst8/


kernel-package and Lilo

1996-06-14 Thread Kevin M Bealer

I love the kernel-package thing; but the other day I used it to install a
kernel and the vmlinuz.old kernel was not in boot (I deleted it
accidentally).

The system would not boot -- may I humbly suggest that the install process
for the generated package checks if "lilo" returns an error and throws a
warning if it does?

(I'm thinking of the equiv. of "lilo (options) || echo Warning! blah blah")

and/or could LILO be run in "verbose" mode?

I suggest this because it would have saved me a lot of time.. 

In other words: (please idiot proof this for my benefit :) )

Thanks,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language."


Re: No terminal capabilities after upgrade

1996-06-14 Thread Gerry Jensen

> HELP!  I just upgraded to Debian 1.1 from .93.  Now whenever I try to
> run anything that requires any terminal capabilities, I get something
> like "xterm: unable to find usable termcap entry", or "Terminal type
> vt100 is unknown".  I have ncurses-base-1.9.9e-1,
> ncurses-bin-1.9.9e-1, and ncurses3.0-1.9.9e-1 all successfully
> installed.

I solved my problem, but I still don't know the cause.  Re-installing the
above 3 packages restored my terminal capabilities.  This is strange
because it had shown that they were all successfully installed before.  I
also installed libc4, libc5-dev and ncurses-developer before re-installing
the packages which may have had some effect (but probably not).

>  Strangely, I had an /etc/termcap file which belonged to no
> installed package (by running dpkg -S /etc/termcap) on the system.

Still don't know where this termcap file comes from.  It's also on my
Debian system at home and also belongs to no installed package.

Gerry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Loading X Windows

1996-06-14 Thread Buddha Buck
> 
> > Is it possible to start an X session from the shell?
> 
> yes.  type "startx" at the command line, as any user, and the machine is
> transformed.  you can end with alt-ctl-backspace.
> 
> > Also, does X allow multiple sessions at once?
> 
> what do you mean by this.  you can have multiple windows open.  type
> "xterm &" to launch an extra xterm, for example.  Or you can log in from
> another x-capable machine and open windows.
> 
Or, if you are desparate and foolish enough (and have a lot of memory), 
you -can- run multiple X servers on different virtual consoles.  I've 
done this in the past.  I don't recommend it.

I have also seen multiple simultaneous X servers running on a MkLinux 
machine.  Unfortunately, the current version of MkLinux for PowerPC ony 
supports one console (not even serial support yet), so it made the 
machine a bit unusable and forced a reboot.

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Re: Loading X Windows

1996-06-14 Thread Rick Hawkins

> Is it possible to start an X session from the shell?

yes.  type "startx" at the command line, as any user, and the machine is
transformed.  you can end with alt-ctl-backspace.

> Also, does X allow multiple sessions at once?

what do you mean by this.  you can have multiple windows open.  type
"xterm &" to launch an extra xterm, for example.  Or you can log in from
another x-capable machine and open windows.


Re: DEBIAN Linux on floppy disks

1996-06-14 Thread Ed Donovan
Kevin - 

That'd work; I had this grim problem.  If fact (beware: tale of
hardship :-)  to install most of my Debian system, I had to sneakernet
the .deb files via msdos floppies from a _Mac_ with net access, and
which could only fit ~850K on the disks.  So, I ran 'split' on them on
my unix ISP first, and ultimately catted them back together under Linux.
This reminds me of what Dr. McCoy accused the transporter of doing to his
molecules.

Second topic: I've been swamped lately, and haven't thanked you for
some of your help messages; I've really appreciated them.

-- 

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p.s.  Now that I've gone online to mail this, I see other answers, but,
gots to thank you anyway ;-)


No terminal capabilities after upgrade

1996-06-14 Thread Gerry Jensen
HELP!  I just upgraded to Debian 1.1 from .93.  Now whenever I try to
run anything that requires any terminal capabilities, I get something
like "xterm: unable to find usable termcap entry", or "Terminal type
vt100 is unknown".  I have ncurses-base-1.9.9e-1,
ncurses-bin-1.9.9e-1, and ncurses3.0-1.9.9e-1 all successfully
installed.  Strangely, I had an /etc/termcap file which belonged to no
installed package (by running dpkg -S /etc/termcap) on the system.
Does anyone have any idea what might have gone wrong?

Thanks,

Gerry



Re: Unidentified subject!

1996-06-14 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Noam Rettig wrote:

> I'm rather new to Debian, so this may seem trivial.  It certainly is
> frustrating.  I was in an X session and wanted to switch to another console.
> I figured out that Ctrl+Alt+Fn will work.  However, I can't switch back.
> 'who' says that I am using the ttyp0 console.  How do I switch to it?

>From console mode, Alt+F7 returns you to your X session.

Cheers.  Syrus.


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Loading X Windows

1996-06-14 Thread Noam Rettig
Is it possible to start an X session from the shell?
Also, does X allow multiple sessions at once?

Thanks In Advance,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Unidentified subject!

1996-06-14 Thread Noam Rettig
I'm rather new to Debian, so this may seem trivial.  It certainly is
frustrating.  I was in an X session and wanted to switch to another console.
I figured out that Ctrl+Alt+Fn will work.  However, I can't switch back.
'who' says that I am using the ttyp0 console.  How do I switch to it?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks In Advance,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Local area talk protocal (LAT)?

1996-06-14 Thread Craig Harmon
Hello again,

Firstly thank you to all those that responded to my first question.  
Hopefully this one will not be as trivial.

On the Windows NT network, I am trying to connect to another machine.  
Using the Windows Fro Workgroups there is a terminal emulation/connection 
software called SmarTerm that uses a LAT protocal to connect to the other 
machine through the Windows NT net.  I know the address of the other 
machine and it seems to absorb all my pings and telnet doesn't work 
either.  I can't find anything in the network software that says anything 
about this sort of protocal.  Does anyone know any linux software that 
will allow me to connect in this way?

Thanking you in advance,

Craig


rcp/permission/nfs problems

1996-06-14 Thread Rick Hawkins

i'm having rcp problems with nfs.  unfortuneately, i have now idea what
rcp is.

ONe of the machines gets a response of 

# /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs start
Starting remote filesystem services: nfsd mountd ugidd pcnfsd bwnfsd
rpc: RPC: U
nable to receive; errno = Connection refused


while starting ( i tried manually doing it).  however, it happily mounts
the other--manually, not automatically.  i have the following fstab: 


/dev/hda2   /   ext2defaults0   1
/dev/hda1   noneswapsw  0   0
proc  /proc procdefaults0   0
/dev/hdb1 /usr  ext2defaults0   2
pc3138.econ:/  /pc3138.econ nfs defaults0   3

but i have to manually mount.

i can't mount the other direction, though:

# mount -t nfs pc3140.econ:/ /pc3140.econ/
rpc mount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused

both are mountable by ALL: .iastate.edu in hosts.allow.

help ! :)

rick

more particularly, what does this rpc stuff mean:


Re: debian v1.1 probs

1996-06-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> > > also, i couldn't find pine/pico anywhere on the debian tree.  i was
> 
> > Because of a new, restrictive copyright, the pine package now lives in the
> > non-free section :-(
> 
> what about including the older, free, version as a package?
> 
As I understand it, there can not be two versions of the same package in
the same archive.
Also, the non-free section IS part of the archive. You are perfectly free
to use any of the packages there.
WRT Pine, you may freely use it, and can even put it on CD, if you get
permission from Pine, which they say they will give. It is the permission
requirement that restricts distribution freedom, thus putting the product
into non-free.
You are completely free to use the Pine package in non-free (or any other
packages found there). It is only the distribution of these package that
is not free. Check the copyright in all cases if you want to put them on a
cd or something.

Enjoy,

Dwarf

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