minimal nfs
Hi, What is the minimal set of packages needed to get nfs working (other than the base packages)? I have the debian packages on one computer and I want to install debian 1.1 on another computer connected to the first via ethernet. What packages do I need to install before the new debian system can access the filesystem of the system with the debian packages on it? Thanks, Mark Phillips. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Apache server
hello, i was wondering about alternatives to the apache server, cern ncsa and others and why is everyone using apache now? allan
Re: minimal nfs
Mark Phillips writes: What is the minimal set of packages needed to get nfs working (other than the base packages)? netbase and netstd. netstd needs cpp/gcc to install. Michael -- Michael Meskes |_ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | / ___// / // / / __ \___ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \__ \/ /_ / // /_/ /_/ / _ \/ ___/ ___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___/ / __/ /__ __/\__, / __/ / (__ ) Use Debian Linux!| //_/ /_/ //\___/_/ //
ram needed to install debian
ALLAN W. BART writes: hello, i would like to hear from others out there, the question is this, is it possible to load and install debian in 4mb of ram? allan Absolutely. As said, console-only. I've installed 0.93, run it, upgraded to 1.1 and run it in 4M. Standard 16M of swap, though I've never filled that. As of not long ago, Bruce's installation testbed was a 386 with 4M, and he repeatedly tweaked the install to deal with possible issues people encountered on 4M machines. -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xbiff: cannot convert to type Pixmap
I recently upgraded our system to 1.1. Now, when I run xbiff, I get: Warning: Cannot convert string flagup to type Pixmap Warning: Cannot convert string flagdown to type Pixmap And a silly pixmap of shelves or something is shown instead of the mailbox pixmap. Strange. Could you mail me (privately) the output of dpkg -l on your system? Especially your version of xaw3d interests me: an old version _used_ to cause this problem, but not the current version. Release xaw3d-1.2a-4 (and -3) should be OK. If you do have xaw3d installed, could you also send me the output of ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm (this should list Xaw being loaded at the start, and _not_ (also) at the end, or both start and end). If you do have xaw3d installed, could you try removing it, and checking what the effect is? Thanks, your xaw3d maintainer who thought he fixed the problem, -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian Linux!
logging in takes ages
Hi all, Some dos oriented machines can acces my Debian box via a wd network card connected via coax. For some time this went pretty well, the login prompt showed up in 1 or 2 seconds. This isn't the case anymore, it takes approx 15 to 30 seconds before the login prompt shows up. any body having a clue why this is taking so long? Erick
Re: logging in takes ages
Erick Branderhorst wrote: Hi all, Some dos oriented machines can acces my Debian box via a wd network card connected via coax. For some time this went pretty well, the login prompt showed up in 1 or 2 seconds. This isn't the case anymore, it takes approx 15 to 30 seconds before the login prompt shows up. any body having a clue why this is taking so long? Erick Here's a clue: I built a 2.0.0 kernel that used dynamically loadable modules whereever possible. I get delays during system startup and sometimes when I use other network-related processes. It's not killing me, but I will be getting around to building kernels that are tuned for the typical role of each machine. I haven't analyzed it, but suspect that some longer delays are caused because more than a single kernel module needs to be loaded. This is just an opinion based on disk sound. Paul Wade - Greenbush Systems * http://www.wtop.com/ - THE OTHER WEBSITE *
tcsh and TERM
I just upgraded a box from 0.93 to 1.1... I logged into my account there (which is tcsh) and when I tried to start up elm to read my email, elm tells me that my TERM variable is not set. The output of 'env' shows there is not TERM variable, but there *is* a line that just shows 'ux'. Going to another machine and doing the same thing shows that the 'ux' line reads 'TERM=linux' there... does this help anyone? Tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Time flies like an arrow... Fruit Flies like a Banana! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: Apache server
In your email to me, ' ALLAN W. BART, you wrote: i was wondering about alternatives to the apache server, cern ncsa and others and why is everyone using apache now? Everyone's not! :) Apache became popular because it was fast. I used it for a while. For the ISP I run though, I switched to Spinner. Although this is still beta, I have a stable version which performs better than Apache in my configuration. The configuration method is via your browser (like Netscape has), and doesn't need 10-15 copies of itself forked off to maintain performance under load.. Tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Time flies like an arrow... Fruit Flies like a Banana! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: Debian Linux Distribution Release 1.1 Now Available
I installed the beta a few weeks ago. I realize that there's a procedure to upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1, but is there a procedure to upgrade from the 1.1 beta to 1.1, or do I just grab the packages and Packages.gz? Will dselect ugrade everything, including dselect itself and the files that were originally installed from the 5 disks?
Re: 3 Questions
On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: It really is empty!! I'll paste in what I did: # pwd /proc/3 # ls /usr/bin/color-ls: exe: No such file or directory /usr/bin/color-ls: root: No such file or directory /usr/bin/color-ls: cwd: No such file or directory cmdline environ fd/ mem stat status cwd@ exe@ maps|root@statm # cat /proc/3/environ | xargs -0n1 | grep '^TERM=' # cat environ # Somehow I doubt the pid of your shell is 3. Type 'echo $$'. Use that number as the pid. Why will the problem go away - what's wrong with using the -detach option? It'll still have a controlling terminal. If you're using a shell without job control (sh), it'll be in the same process group as the shell. But does this have anything to do with why the process regularly dies? Surely having a controlling terminal doesn't do any harm? I thought it was dying because of SIGHUPs or something when you exited the shell. If it's dying for some other reason, check /var/adm/messages. I think there's some option you can set in /etc/ppp/options to make it very verbose? Guy
Re: OK where are the disks?
Where is the included dpkg-ftp?? It doesn't appear to be in dpkg1-2-6 It's in /debian/project/experimental Guy
Re: Debian Linux Distribution Release 1.1 Now Available
On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, David Gaudine wrote: Will dselect ugrade everything, including dselect itself and the files that were originally installed from the 5 disks? yes
Re: minimal nfs
Hi, What is the minimal set of packages needed to get nfs working (other than the base packages)? I have the debian packages on one computer and I want to install debian 1.1 on another computer connected to the first via ethernet. What packages do I need to install before the new debian system can access the filesystem of the system with the debian packages on it? netstd will definitely do it, but that might be more than you need. Just as a hunch: using alt-f2 gives you a (restricted) shell. boot the first two disks, copy over the nfs module, activate it with insmod, and then try mounting the file system. if that doesn't work, go through the base install, and try mounting nfs. failing that, netstd will definitely do it. I don't know if you need to uncomment the start-stops in /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs or not . . . (Now why didn't i think of that first method yesterday when i was doing a clean install on the 2d machine???) rick
Re: Debian Linux Distribution Release 1.1 Now Available
On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, David Gaudine wrote: I installed the beta a few weeks ago. I realize that there's a procedure to upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1, but is there a procedure to upgrade from the 1.1 beta to 1.1, or do I just grab the packages and Packages.gz? Will dselect ugrade everything, including dselect itself and the files that were originally installed from the 5 disks? I might suggest that you upgrade base first, devel second, and then go for the rest. If you used dselect for you upgrade from 0.93 to 1.1 you should have no trouble with this move. If you used my script to do the first upgrade, just run it again. It knows when a package is already installed and only installs the upgrades. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Re: xbiff: cannot convert to type Pixmap
I recently upgraded our system to 1.1. Now, when I run xbiff, I get: Warning: Cannot convert string flagup to type Pixmap Warning: Cannot convert string flagdown to type Pixmap And a silly pixmap of shelves or something is shown instead of the mailbox pixmap. Strange. The problem was really trivial. Xbiff just couldn't find the flagup and flagdown bitmaps. The package that contains xbiff (xcontrib) does not have these bitmaps (I think it should though). xdevel does contain these bitmaps. After installing xdevel, all works again. Perhaps this should be reported as a bug. Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
need help with kernel packages :-(
Hi, I seem to be having a lot of trouble installing or removing the kernel image/header/source packages. dpkg fails, and then the packages get marked as needing reinstallation before they can be configured or removed. This happened with both the 1.99.7 and the 2.0.0 packages :-( I tried to forcibly remove the 1.99.7 package(s) using -force-remove-reinstreq, and most of the files were removed, but dselect still considers the packages to be brokenly installed. How can I get them to go away? Here's what happens when I try to install 2.0.0 # dpkg --install kernel-source-2.0.0-0.deb Selecting previously deselected package kernel-source-2.0.0. (Reading database ... 27285 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kernel-source-2.0.0 (from kernel-source-2.0.0-0.deb) ... Setting up kernel-source-2.0.0 ... dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing kernel-source-2.0.0 (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: kernel-source-2.0.0 (Same error message when I'm dealing with the image or the headers.) This is on a Debian 1.1 system initially installed a few days before the official release, and then upgraded after the release happened. All of the other packages I installed have behaved just fine. I'd really appreciate any thoughts on how to fix this. Thanks, -Arup
Re: Debian Linux Distribution Release 1.1 Now Available
Will dselect ugrade everything, including dselect itself and the files that were originally installed from the 5 disks? yes in fact, once you have your Packages updated, it *defaults* to updating everything, as well as everything it thinks you should have. rick
mounting other file systems (novell afs)
I strongly suspect that there are how-to's for this, but i have no idea what the names are . . . so even a pointer would help. There are two types of foreing file systems we have interest in mounting. The first are thte novell type used by our departmental servers. I recall such options in the kernel, but then what? I would need to automate the logon to the servers. The second is the AFS file system for the campuswide workstations. I would like to both get acces to things such as man pages, and to the individual student direcotories, allowing editing on linux, and compile/execute on an alpha. where do i look? thanks rick
ftp.debian.org
Has anyone noticed that today ftp.debian.org is being particularly vicious about booting people from the server? I go to /pub/debian/buzz/bianry-i386/base and do a mget * and I don't get any further than diff before the connection is dropped. Pretty rude. And it said I was user 50 out of 100 when I logged in -- To stay young requires unceasing cultivation of the | G. Branden Robinson ability to unlearn old falsehoods. | Purdue University -- Robert Heinlein| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting other file systems (novell afs)
On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: [Wants to be able to mount Novell and AFS filesystems on Linux.] The second is the AFS file system for the campuswide workstations. I Linux-AFS is apparently somewhat arcane at the moment. There's a (very) limited amount of information on AFS on Transarc's AFS homepage http://www.transarc.com/afs/transarc.com/public/www/Product/AFS/FAQ/faq.html basically, Transarc acknowledges the existence of the AFS port to Linux, but they don't distribute or support it. About the extent of their page is to mention the mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to sign on; I joined it a couple of days ago myself. Only a couple of messages have come across it since, one saying that a port to the 2.0.0 kernel will be worked on soon. (And it could be a really big help to me when it arrives.) I can't provide more than just this pointer, because I'm a total newbie to the Linux-AFS thing. David [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pitt.edu/~winters/ http://www.pitt.edu/~dcwst8/
Can't find my Ethernet card
Hi, I installed Debian 1.1 in my Cyrix 586 and other than my Ethernet access everything seems to be doing well. While I am in M$ Windows, Netware installs ok and reports the NIC with IRQ=5, DMA=3, Port=2E0 (the same if I just use the MSD.EXE program under the windows directory). I added the following lines to /etc/conf.modules alias eth0 ne options ne io=0x2E0 irq=5 However if I run 'depmod -a; modprobe eth0' modprobe complains saying that there is no NE*000 device in that address. How shall I interpret the report I get from M$ Windows? Thanks for your help. ___ Pedro I. Sanchez|Phone:(514) 683-6363 x31 |2250 Pl. Transcanadienne Internetworking Systems |Fax: (514) 683-7997 |Dorval, QC., Canada CTI Datacom Inc.| |H9P 2X5 ---
AfterStep pages down
It appears that the site hosting the AfterStep pages is down-- AfterStep being the NeXTSTEP like window manager taken one step beyond bowman. Anyway; anyone have a mirror of the site available? Or the source to the latest version? Or a binary? Also; is it relatively easy to create debian packages? If so, I'd consider putting together a 'install this and you'll have a usable, relatively powerful, bowman/afterstep based X environment' package. thanks, b.bum
Re: mounting other file systems (novell afs)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Dear Mr. Hawkins: Re your need for Novell connectivity, I'm acquainted with two packages of interest (neither Debianized yet): ncpfs (Netware Core Protocol Filesystem) makes your Linux box a Novell client. I got version 0.21 running with minimial hassle last week, on my 0.93R6 box; I think the code's up to 0.24 now---it's a fast-moving target. I can read and write disks, which is everything desired; I'm a happy camper. An old LSM entry is: Title: ncpfs Version:0.17 Entered-date: 29. February 1996 Description:With ncpfs you can mount volumes of your netware server under Linux. You can also print to netware print queues and spool netware print queues to the Linux printing system. You need kernel 1.2.x or 1.3.54 and above. ncpfs does NOT work with any 1.3.x kernel below 1.3.54. Keywords: filesystem ncp novell netware printing Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Volker Lendecke) Maintained-by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Volker Lendecke) Primary-site: linux01.gwdg.de:/pub/ncpfs Alternate-site: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/system/Filesystems/ ~81k ncpfs-0.17.tgz ~ 1k ncpfs-0.17.lsm Copying-policy: GPL mars-nwe (???-NetWare Emulator) lets your Linux box be a server to NetWare clients. I have no further info on it since that's not anything I need. You can join the Linware mailing list for more info on either: To join, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following command in the body of your email message: add your email address linware Hope this helps. Sincerely yours, Max Hyre -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMccGnfJa20+mce5pAQHU9QP+KWGntawHZnc5nwOB3PpCE1Kiy0KeI5Va 87nL7yi2Rj9yXsx6McKnsP/0tKIEJNYVA5AQ7UV83tK0h1gciGeQq8k8CNsOG2xG JlwvpmKJqqieJR+Mm7DNbiHU6xyfXsF4DmEXJ2ybDbPAwIy/E6uGNA8jFja4r94T xvzKevMUaJk= =VkpS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: mounting other file systems (novell afs)
Re your need for Novell connectivity, I'm acquainted with two packages of interest (neither Debianized yet): ncpfs (Netware Core Protocol Filesystem) makes your Linux box a Novell client. I got version 0.21 running with minimial hassle last week, on my 0.93R6 box; I think the code's up to 0.24 now---it's a fast-moving target. I can read and write disks, which is everything desired; I'm a happy camper. An old LSM entry is: Ncpfs *is* available as a Debian package. Gerry
Apple printer + Linux?
I've got a very nice Apple laser printer (PS 4/600) which has just a localtalk interface. My Linux box doesn't---can anybody help? The (brief) documentation for the netatalk driver seems to indicate that I could print to such a printer, but I'm not obviouly not very clear on that. And how do I wire up a cable to connect them? I'm running Debian 1.1 with a 2.0.0 kernel. Any pointers will be very appreciated! --Norris Preyer - Norris W. Preyer -- Dept. of Physics email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eastern Oregon State College voice: 541.962.3310 La Grande, OR 97850 fax: 541.962.3873 - WWW: http://www.eosc.osshe.edu/~npreyer/npreyer.html -
Re: mounting other file systems (novell afs)
Dear Mr. Jensen: Ncpfs *is* available as a Debian package. You mean I compiled and monkeyed with it for nothing :-)? Oh, well Max Hyre
Re: AfterStep pages down
It appears that the site hosting the AfterStep pages is down-- AfterStep being the NeXTSTEP like window manager taken one step beyond bowman. Check out: http://mango.sfasu.edu/~frank/afterstep/ Anyway; anyone have a mirror of the site available? Or the source to the latest version? Or a binary? At the moment, everything you need can be ftped from: ftp://oak.sfasu.edu/pub/AfterStep Also; is it relatively easy to create debian packages? If so, I'd consider putting together a 'install this and you'll have a usable, relatively powerful, bowman/afterstep based X environment' package. Interesting that you should mention that... I have basically finished an AfterStep package myself and will try to get it uploaded tonight. At the moment, it just comes with the author's default system.steprc, which may or may not be the best starting setup for the typical Debian user. I would certainly be interested in help designing a good configuration system and just generally working on the package. If you are interested, Bill, please send me some e-mail. In answer to the question of how hard it is to create Debian packages, it's really not that hard. You just need to know a little bit about make and maybe shell/perl scripting, and there are plenty of examples to look at and learn from. It just took me most of a Saturday afternoon to go from ftping the packaging guidelines and the hello package to having my first installable package. I hope that this helps. -- Neil A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Physics/Mathematics - CWRU '98, IMSA '94 WWW Homepage: http://b62724.student.cwru.edu/~nrubin/ PGP Public Key available from above page and from good Key Servers.
Re: minimal nfs
boot the first two disks, copy over the nfs module, activate it with insmod, and then try mounting the file system. You're going to have to load your net card module and run ifconfig and route by hand if you try to do it from the boot floppy. When you're done, Please write us a script to do this - we need to support this installation mode. However, installing the base and rebooting is a much easier way to go if you don't mind writing three disks. I've never tried the tiny mount on the boot floppy with NFS. I'd be interested in hearing if it works. It is a separate program from the mount you get once you install the base system. Thanks Bruce
Re: ftp.debian.org
From: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone noticed that today ftp.debian.org is being particularly vicious about booting people from the server? Try debian.crosslink.net or one of the other mirrors. Ftp.debian.org is having some problems with running out of file descriptors, etc. We are working on the problem. Thanks Bruce
PPP link kills routing table
Hi, Thank's to all the people who have helped me recently. Every time I solve one problem, another appears. I tried establishing a ppp link and found it didn't work. To find out what was going on, I ran route and got: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface and then route just hung. When pppd was not connected, I got: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 1 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 6 lo default * 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 12 eth0 or, doing route -n: # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 1 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 6 lo 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 12 eth0 I tried several things to try and get it to work. Previously ppp had worked when I had nothing in my /etc/modules file, so I tried commenting out the entries and rebooted. PPP now works (as you can see by the fact that I am typing this), however I think ppp working is the result of a side effect: namely, that as a result my local ethernet network wasn't setup. If I now type route, before running pppd, I get: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localhost * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 2 lo And with pppd running I get: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localhost * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 2 lo annex05.cc.flin * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 default annex05.cc.flin 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 3 ppp0 So the question is: what is wrong? Why can't I run the ethernet network and pppd at the same time? I could with my old slackware system. Thank's for your help, Mark Phillips. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I'm not convinced it is a problem with the ethernet network because I think (but am not sure) that I may have previously had a debian system working with both pppd and ethernet running simultaneously, though, if I remember rightly, I routed ethernet manually that time.
Re: aout svgalib problem
Jeffery S. Coy, Jr. writes: i just installed the aout-svgalib-1.28-6.deb package, and noticed it installs to /usr/i486-linuxaout rather than /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout, so the system can't find it. No, /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib is the correct place; I'd expect the problem to be something else. I don't really have time to maintain the svgalib packages any more and it would be good if someone else would take over. i tried writing the maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but the host appears not to exist. Circumstances beyond my control and all that, I'm afraid. I hadn't realized that that address had made its way into package maintainer fields. We do have a bug tracking system for a good reason, BTW. - Richard -- http://www.elmail.co.uk/staff/richard/ GCS d- s+:- a-- C++ ULVS+++$ P+++ L++ E++ W(++,--) N(++,+) o? K w--- O? M- V? PS(+,+++) PE Y+ PGP+ t- 5++ X+@ R tv--- b++ DI+ D+ G e++ h r% y++
Re: PPP link kills routing table
I have had the same problem, I think, for some time. After connecting to my isp's dialup with ppp route will just hang as Mark mentioned. I have just merrily ignored it and manually typed 'route add -net default ppp0' and then it works. Not a big inconvienence, but I have been curious why this happens. I do have defaultroute in my /etc/ppp/options. Eric Hoeltzel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: Hi, Thank's to all the people who have helped me recently. Every time I solve one problem, another appears. I tried establishing a ppp link and found it didn't work. To find out what was going on, I ran route and got: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface and then route just hung. When pppd was not connected, I got: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 1 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 6 lo default * 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 12 eth0 or, doing route -n: # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 1 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 6 lo 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 12 eth0 I tried several things to try and get it to work. Previously ppp had worked when I had nothing in my /etc/modules file, so I tried commenting out the entries and rebooted. PPP now works (as you can see by the fact that I am typing this), however I think ppp working is the result of a side effect: namely, that as a result my local ethernet network wasn't setup. If I now type route, before running pppd, I get: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localhost * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 2 lo And with pppd running I get: # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localhost * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 2 lo annex05.cc.flin * 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 default annex05.cc.flin 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 3 ppp0 So the question is: what is wrong? Why can't I run the ethernet network and pppd at the same time? I could with my old slackware system. Thank's for your help, Mark Phillips. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I'm not convinced it is a problem with the ethernet network because I think (but am not sure) that I may have previously had a debian system working with both pppd and ethernet running simultaneously, though, if I remember rightly, I routed ethernet manually that time.
Re: DEBIAN-Re: logging in takes ages
My problem, since upgrading is similiar. I get the prompt, enter username and password and then wait. It seems to be account related. I can go to other virtual terminals and log in as other users, but if I try the same user, that terminal will also hang. Typicall hang times seem to be as bad as 30 seconds. Note, I almost always log in as root, so my problem may be root specific. Jim At 08:26 AM 6/18/96 -0400, you wrote: Erick Branderhorst wrote: Hi all, Some dos oriented machines can acces my Debian box via a wd network card connected via coax. For some time this went pretty well, the login prompt showed up in 1 or 2 seconds. This isn't the case anymore, it takes approx 15 to 30 seconds before the login prompt shows up. any body having a clue why this is taking so long? Erick Here's a clue: I built a 2.0.0 kernel that used dynamically loadable modules whereever possible. I get delays during system startup and sometimes when I use other network-related processes. It's not killing me, but I will be getting around to building kernels that are tuned for the typical role of each machine. I haven't analyzed it, but suspect that some longer delays are caused because more than a single kernel module needs to be loaded. This is just an opinion based on disk sound. Paul Wade - Greenbush Systems * http://www.wtop.com/ - THE OTHER WEBSITE * .oooO Oooo. ( ) ( )[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ ( ) / \_) (_/ Wake me when it's over
Re: DEBIAN-Re: logging in takes ages
Jim Rush wrote: My problem, since upgrading is similiar. I get the prompt, enter username and password and then wait. It seems to be account related. I can go to other virtual terminals and log in as other users, but if I try the same user, that terminal will also hang. Typicall hang times seem to be as bad as 30 seconds. Note, I almost always log in as root, so my problem may be root specific. Jim Let me clarify what I did: I downloaded the new kernel from Finland before it was mirrored in the US. I built it, booted it and got the new delays. I usually log in via telnet from a Windoze system and then su to root with no delay. If you have an user account that responds fast, log in with it and then su root. It will be interesting to see if you get the delay on root that way. Paul Wade - Greenbush Systems *** * http://www.wtop.com/ - THE OTHER WEBSITE forever under construction * ***
kernel-package and perl, without perl package
I'd like to continue to have a working perl binary without installing the full package; disk space is a big issue. The base set of 0.93 gave me perl 5.001m as /usr/bin/perl (and /bin/perl symlinked to it). To dpkg it's orphaned; and I can't dig up an old Contents file now to see if any old package 'fesses up. All of the 'base' packages on my system are current, but I still have that a.out perl and nothing more recent. This has become a foreground issue since kernel-package requires perl 5.002. Do I have to install the whole perl package, or can I get a no-frills, dpkg-recognized 5.002 binary? (and then force-depends kernel-package? Or can I just force it now? I'm presuming Manoj had his reasons.) Does everybody else just have the perl package installed? :-) -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS - Repeat question, sorry; in May this was part of a long letter, but slipped through the cracks. PPS - Congratulations, Bruce and everybody, on Debian 1.1. Thanks.
Re: aout svgalib problem
Richard Kettlewell writes: Jeffery S. Coy, Jr. writes: i just installed the aout-svgalib-1.28-6.deb package, and noticed it installs to /usr/i486-linuxaout rather than /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout, so the system can't find it. No, /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib is the correct place; I'd expect the problem to be something else. I don't really have time to maintain the svgalib packages any more and it would be good if someone else would take over. This is partly my fault. In the last libc4 package, I moved libdb.so* from /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib to /usr/lib/i486-linuxaout. I did this so users who didn't install any a.out development packages (eg. libc4-dev, aout-gcc, etc.) wouldn't have a /usr/i486-linuxaout directory cluttering up /usr. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
